Author Topic: 1/31: Seriously the best time ever to buy FFXIII-2 (Read 38859 times)

Himu · « **Reply #180 on:** December 13, 2011, 11:27:07 PM »

Quote from: ZephyrFate on December 13, 2011, 11:11:19 PM

Quote from: Count Drugula The Satanic on December 13, 2011, 11:04:06 PM
Hello disgruntled JRPG fanboy here.

Haven't been following this game much, actually not at all. Wondering what's supposed to be different this time around and if early impressions have been good, what say you Bore?
There's a ton of improvements to the first game in pretty much every aspect.

http://ja.twitch.tv/teakdoc

live stream

watchin dis

Himu · « **Reply #181 on:** December 13, 2011, 11:32:14 PM »

review for who

Himu · « **Reply #182 on:** December 13, 2011, 11:41:28 PM »

this game will be amazing. holy shit.

Damian79 · « **Reply #183 on:** December 14, 2011, 03:32:02 AM »

I originally was considering FFXIII-2 because i heard it was non linear but the shitty corridors makes me think otherwise.

magus · « **Reply #184 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:46:04 AM »

let's all remember the good times

the chocobo theme is dead. you can't bring it back

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #185 on:** December 14, 2011, 05:26:48 PM »

Quote from: Damian79 on December 14, 2011, 03:32:02 AM

I originally was considering FFXIII-2 because i heard it was non linear but the shitty corridors makes me think otherwise.

You must have disliked FFX, X-2, and XII, because they all had shitty corridors.

Himu · « **Reply #186 on:** December 14, 2011, 05:41:11 PM »

Um, no they didn't.

Especially XII

Himu · « **Reply #187 on:** December 14, 2011, 05:41:34 PM »

Quote from: Damian79 on December 14, 2011, 03:32:02 AM

I originally was considering FFXIII-2 because i heard it was non linear but the shitty corridors makes me think otherwise.

13-2 doesn't have corridors.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #188 on:** December 14, 2011, 06:40:02 PM »

actually X and X-2 were pretty corridor-tastic, though eventually you got the ability to fly to whichever corridor you needed to run down next

Himu · « **Reply #189 on:** December 14, 2011, 06:42:42 PM »

How was X-2 corridor-tactic? the game features a lot of cities and dungeons, considerably more than FFX.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #190 on:** December 14, 2011, 06:45:36 PM »

oh, haven't played it in a while, i just kind of assumed same engine/world, same corridors.

Himu · « **Reply #191 on:** December 14, 2011, 06:48:46 PM »

For the most part X-2 re-uses locations from X. But most of those locations that are corridors are the road towards cities and towns. In X-2 you get the airship in 30 minutes and can go anywhere, so most of your time is spent in cities and dungeons rather than the road like in X.

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #192 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:20:19 PM »

This game's OST is so crazy varied. I want this game in my veins.

Himu · « **Reply #193 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:21:33 PM »

WHY COULDN'T WE HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL RELEASE

Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #194 on:** December 14, 2011, 09:02:27 PM »

New Chocobo theme redeems the entire terrible series.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #195 on:** December 15, 2011, 01:56:02 AM »

apparently there's a red chocobo named Dante in the game, and Crazy Chocobo is the music when you ride it. So I guess it's meant as a DMC reference

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #196 on:** December 15, 2011, 04:08:11 AM »

you are correct.

Tasty · « **Reply #197 on:** December 15, 2011, 05:43:55 AM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on December 15, 2011, 01:56:02 AM

apparently there's a red chocobo named Dante in the game, and Crazy Chocobo is the music when you ride it. So I guess it's meant as a DMC reference

What a subtle reference.

Momo · « **Reply #198 on:** December 15, 2011, 06:22:20 AM »

Quote from: ZephyrFate on December 15, 2011, 04:08:11 AM

you are correct.

I no longer what to breathe the same oxygen as the rest of humanity

MCD · « **Reply #199 on:** December 15, 2011, 08:25:11 AM »

That Chocobo is pretty boss.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #200 on:** December 15, 2011, 02:46:46 PM »

So you think you can ride it?!

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #201 on:** December 15, 2011, 05:16:56 PM »

I'm gonna ride that Chocobo at all possible times.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #202 on:** December 15, 2011, 05:50:18 PM »

I'll ride your Chocobo if you ride mine.

MCD · « **Reply #203 on:** December 16, 2011, 02:23:04 AM »

I wish to ride the little chocobo.

MCD · « **Reply #204 on:** December 19, 2011, 12:53:08 AM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=455981

BAIL OUT

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #205 on:** December 19, 2011, 12:57:08 AM »

Himu · « **Reply #206 on:** December 19, 2011, 01:09:56 AM »

thought it was a shitty kagari post

bail in

MCD · « **Reply #207 on:** December 19, 2011, 01:10:07 AM »

>tri-Ace

Himu · « **Reply #208 on:** December 19, 2011, 01:12:15 AM »

Quote from: MCD on December 19, 2011, 01:10:07 AM

>tri-Ace

> valkyrie profile 2

Himu · « **Reply #209 on:** December 19, 2011, 03:26:50 AM »

Going by what this dude at SA wrote about the game, who has clocked about 20 hours, the game is the anti-FF13: there's towns, there's an actual semblance of level design, there's customization up the wazoo, the new dialogue system adds to the game (but not in the way it would in say, a Bioware game or anything), and sometimes the line is blurred between sidequest and plot progression.

He also says that anyone who enjoyed FFXIII's world, but didn't like how it was so underdeveloped or let you have a feel for it, will really enjoy this game as it fleshes out FFXIII in general.

He said he spent four hours in the first area just questing and fucking around and that by hour 10 he was positively overwhelmed with all there is to do.

Awesome.

magus · « **Reply #210 on:** December 19, 2011, 04:03:56 AM »

Quote from: MCD on December 19, 2011, 01:10:07 AM

>tri-Ace

SIDE-QUEST SIDE-QUEST SIDE-QUEST

tiesto · « **Reply #211 on:** December 19, 2011, 08:42:33 AM »

Quote from: MCD on December 19, 2011, 01:10:07 AM

>tri-Ace

So that explains why this game looks and sounds so good...

magus · « **Reply #212 on:** December 19, 2011, 08:56:33 AM »

Quote

the new dialogue system adds to the game (but not in the way it would in say, a Bioware game or anything)

if only bioware was here...

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #213 on:** December 19, 2011, 09:17:46 AM »

the cat

magus · « **Reply #214 on:** December 19, 2011, 09:31:47 AM »

Quote from: Borys on December 19, 2011, 09:24:30 AM

Wait how is that screen in english?

there are a lot of press released screenshot?

http://the-magicbox.com/1112/game111214a.shtml
knock yourself out

on unrelated news there has been a lot of info released on DLC,there is a bikini costume for serah so you can be all creepy and

as you want
there are some DLC bosses too

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #215 on:** December 19, 2011, 09:38:06 AM »

Quote from: magus on December 19, 2011, 08:56:33 AM

Quote
the new dialogue system adds to the game (but not in the way it would in say, a Bioware game or anything)

(Image removed from quote.)

if only bioware was here...

S-E finally enters the 21st century!

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #216 on:** December 19, 2011, 09:48:38 AM »

I bet if only Lightning were there she'd scold her sister for not using the subjunctive. I'd like to see such a scene actually, they should sell it as DLC.

magus · « **Reply #217 on:** December 19, 2011, 11:14:37 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on December 19, 2011, 09:38:06 AM

Quote from: magus on December 19, 2011, 08:56:33 AM
Quote
the new dialogue system adds to the game (but not in the way it would in say, a Bioware game or anything)

(Image removed from quote.)

if only bioware was here...

S-E finally enters the 21st century!

moral choices confirmed for FF15?

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on December 19, 2011, 09:48:38 AM

I bet if only Lightning were there she'd scold her sister for not using the subjunctive. I'd like to see such a scene actually, they should sell it as DLC.

still better than any soppy love scene featuring serah and snow

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #218 on:** December 19, 2011, 11:18:17 AM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on December 19, 2011, 09:48:38 AM

I bet if only Lightning were there she'd scold her sister for not using the subjunctive. I'd like to see such a scene actually, they should sell it as DLC.

man, that cheesed me off too. WERE here, S-E translators. WERE here.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #219 on:** December 19, 2011, 12:00:59 PM »

hey, look, tri-ace influence!

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #220 on:** December 21, 2011, 12:38:30 PM »

500k in its first week.

Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #221 on:** December 21, 2011, 12:41:47 PM »

diediedie

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #222 on:** December 21, 2011, 12:42:14 PM »

Himu · « **Reply #223 on:** December 21, 2011, 12:47:21 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on December 19, 2011, 12:00:59 PM

hey, look, tri-ace influence!

fyi this is VP2 Tri-Ace

Bebpo · « **Reply #224 on:** December 21, 2011, 12:56:17 PM »

Yeah this game tanked. Amiami store is selling it for almost half-price already NEW. They definitely over-shipped and it's going to be another bargain bin game regardless of its quality.

But that's what happens when you make a sequel to an FF people didn't like and you don't even go the "goofy X-2 fun fun fun" route. Having it be a serious real XIII story is something no one wanted. Put lightning in a jpop outfit and have her breakdance with odin and people will approve.

Also releasing it at the same time as MONSTER HUNTER and NEW HARDWARE LAUNCH w/22 games was whoops. It lost any attention it would have normally got.

Not sure if it has any impact on the franchise though. When they rename Versus to FFXV and release it next year I'm sure it'll still sell a good 2 million in Japan.

Bebpo · « **Reply #225 on:** December 21, 2011, 12:57:40 PM »

But who knows. Since this was an 18 month dev cycle on old engine with old asset re-use and outsourced to a cheap developer...maybe the 800k they'll eventually sell at $90 a pop will still be profitable for the game.

Himu · « **Reply #226 on:** December 21, 2011, 12:59:28 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on December 21, 2011, 12:56:17 PM

Yeah this game tanked. Amiami store is selling it for almost half-price already NEW. They definitely over-shipped and it's going to be another bargain bin game regardless of its quality.

But that's what happens when you make a sequel to an FF people didn't like and you don't even go the "goofy X-2 fun fun fun" route. Having it be a serious real XIII story is something no one wanted. Put lightning in a jpop outfit and have her breakdance with odin and people will approve.

Who wants this?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #227 on:** December 21, 2011, 01:00:49 PM »

Went and looked up X-2 for reference.

It sold 1.5 million in its first week.

Bebpo · « **Reply #228 on:** December 21, 2011, 01:01:19 PM »

Look, I think people would rather have an X-2 style tongue-in-cheek humorous spinoff of XIII than another serious drama considering XIII's SERIOUS HEAVY DRAMA STORY was freaking terrible.

Himu · « **Reply #229 on:** December 21, 2011, 01:03:28 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on December 21, 2011, 01:01:19 PM

Look, I think people would rather have an X-2 style tongue-in-cheek humorous spinoff of XIII than another serious drama considering XIII's SERIOUS HEAVY DRAMA STORY was freaking terrible.

Actually, I wouldn't mind it provided it's decent and all signs point to it being pretty solid.

Also, what makes you think a game that has Flans wearing sunglasses and chocobos whose theme music is death metal takes itself seriously?

Trent Dole · « **Reply #230 on:** December 21, 2011, 01:03:59 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on December 21, 2011, 01:01:19 PM

Look, XIII was freaking terrible.

Bebpo · « **Reply #231 on:** December 21, 2011, 02:05:37 PM »

Nomura gets shit done and releases quality games.

Versus, aka FFXV, will be out by x-mas 2012. It will also be the best FF ever because it'll be what Matsuno tried to do with XII but couldn't finish because of the mental breakdown. Nomura will have none of that mental breakdown-ing.

Nomura-sama~~~~~~~

Himu · « **Reply #232 on:** December 21, 2011, 03:07:51 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on December 21, 2011, 02:05:37 PM

Nomura gets shit done and releases quality games.

Versus, aka FFXV, will be out by x-mas 2012. It will also be the best FF ever because it'll be what Matsuno tried to do with XII but couldn't finish because of the mental breakdown. Nomura will have none of that mental breakdown-ing.

Nomura-sama~~~~~~~

i like nomura but jesus christ

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #233 on:** December 21, 2011, 04:19:48 PM »

How much did SE ship of this? 1 mil?

magus · « **Reply #234 on:** December 21, 2011, 05:14:03 PM »

when an original IP bombs they make more final fantasy but what happens when final fantasy bombs?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

more kingdom hearts probably

[close]

Bebpo · « **Reply #235 on:** December 21, 2011, 05:44:34 PM »

Quote from: Count Drugula The Satanic on December 21, 2011, 05:13:51 PM

Quote from: Bebpo on December 21, 2011, 02:05:37 PM
Nomura gets shit done and releases quality games.

Versus, aka FFXV, will be out by x-mas 2012. It will also be the best FF ever because it'll be what Matsuno tried to do with XII but couldn't finish because of the mental breakdown. Nomura will have none of that mental breakdown-ing.

Nomura-sama~~~~~~~

Please tell me you aren't being serious with this post Bebpo.

Nomura

Guy is a MUCH better game designer/director/story planner than he is an artist. Versus is going to be amazing.

Quote from: Shaka Khan on December 21, 2011, 04:19:48 PM

How much did SE ship of this? 1 mil?

Yep. Will be $10 in a few weeks.

Himu · « **Reply #236 on:** December 21, 2011, 05:48:50 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on December 21, 2011, 05:44:34 PM

Guy is a MUCH better game designer/director/story planner than he is an artist. Versus is going to be amazing.

No he's not.

Bebpo · « **Reply #237 on:** December 21, 2011, 05:54:53 PM »

Uhhhhhh

As an artist = buckles and belts and buckles and everyone looks like midget hipster. It's decent, but there are a dozen better artists at SE.

As a game designer = makes AWESOME game systems. TWEWY's button system, KH CoM's card system, KH 358/2 days Panel System, KH BBS skill/ability making system, KH Re:Coded's Panel machine system. He makes creative and fun gameplay systems that make his games more enjoyable. Also has built a great worldview with KH and TWEWY's story was interesting as well. His games have good cutscenes, great pacing, and the endings pull all the mindfucks together for a satisfying conclusion. He was also heavily involved in Crisis Core & Dissidia which were both great FF spinoffs.

While his first directorial/design debut with KH1 was a bit iffy since it was his first outting, he's become a great game director.

Bebpo · « **Reply #238 on:** December 21, 2011, 06:00:53 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetsuya_Nomura

Quote

Kingdom Hearts    2002    PlayStation 2    Director, Concept Designer, Character Designer & Base Story
Final Fantasy XI    2002    Playstation 2, Microsoft Windows, Xbox 360    Character Designer
Final Fantasy X-2    2003    PlayStation 2    Main Character Designer
Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII    2004    Mobile phones    Character Designer
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories    2004    PlayStation 2, Game Boy Advance    Director, Character Designer, Concept Designer & Base Story
Musashi: Samurai Legend    2005    PlayStation 2    Main Character Designer
Final Fantasy VII Advent Children    2005       Director
Last Order: Final Fantasy VII    2005       Supervising Director
Kingdom Hearts II    2005    PlayStation 2    Director, Character Designer, Concept Designer & Base Story
Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII    2006    PlayStation 2    Character Designer
Dirge of Cerberus Lost Episode: Final Fantasy VII    2006    Mobile Phones    Character Designer
Final Fantasy V    2006    Game Boy Advance    Monster Designer
The World Ends with You    2007    Nintendo DS    Creative Producer & Main Character Designer
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII    2007    PlayStation Portable    Creative Producer & Character Designer
Kingdom Hearts coded    2008    Mobile Phones    Director, Concept Designer, Character Designer & Base Story
Dissidia: Final Fantasy    2008    PlayStation Portable    Creative Producer & Character Designer
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days    2009    Nintendo DS    Director, Concept Designer, Character Designer & Base Story
Final Fantasy XIII    2009    PlayStation 3, Xbox 360    Main Character Designer
Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep    2010    PlayStation Portable    Director, Concept Designer, Character Designer & Base Story
Kingdom Hearts Re:coded    2010    Nintendo DS    Director, Concept Designer, Character Designer & Base Story
The 3rd Birthday    2010    PlayStation Portable    Creative producer, Concept Designer, Character Designer
Dissidia 012 Final Fantasy    2011    PlayStation Portable    Creative Producer & Character Designer
Final Fantasy Type-0    2011    PlayStation Portable    Character Designer
Final Fantasy XIII-2    2011    PlayStation 3, Xbox 360    Character Designer
Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance    2012    Nintendo 3DS    Director, Concept Designer, Character Designer & Base Story
Final Fantasy Versus XIII    TBA    PlayStation 3    Director, Concept Designer, Character Designer & Base Story

Great list! Outside Matsuno & Takahashi, he's probably the 3rd best rpg creator in Japan. And since Matsuno barely makes crap anymore and Takahashi takes 5 years between games, he's virtually got the #1 spot.

Himu · « **Reply #239 on:** December 21, 2011, 06:02:49 PM »

Nomura used to be a much better artist. But if anything, Advent Children proved the man has a taste for art and visual design and flash and cool more than direction.

TWEWY wasn't even directed by Nomura. He just produced. Nomura has a thing for inventive and non-conventional games, but he fares much better as a dedicated artist. I think having to concentrate on other things such as the game design and direction has made his art suffer over the years.

I like Nomura and his games but don't kid yourself.

News:

Author Topic: 1/31: Seriously the best time ever to buy FFXIII-2 (Read 38859 times)