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Re: 1/31: Seriously the best time ever to buy FFXIII-2
« Reply #300 on: December 22, 2011, 05:18:20 PM »
I played some Final Fantasy 7 yesterday and I made Cloud dress up as a woman so that he could be picked by a notorious crime lord/womanizer to become his bride, but this happened after I made him get raped by a group of muscle guys in a Jacuzzi. It was pretty awesome.

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« Reply #301 on: December 22, 2011, 05:18:39 PM »
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I played some Final Fantasy 7 yesterday and I made Cloud dress up as a woman so that he could be picked by a notorious crime lord/womanizer to become his bride, but this happened after I made him get raped by a group of muscle guys in a Jacuzzi. It was pretty awesome.

Toriyama wrote and directed all the Honeybee Inn stuff (seriously)
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« Reply #302 on: December 22, 2011, 05:19:14 PM »
I played some Final Fantasy 7 yesterday and I made Cloud dress up as a woman so that he could be picked by a notorious crime lord/womanizer to become his bride, but this happened after I made him get raped by a group of muscle guys in a Jacuzzi. It was pretty awesome.
Everything that was good in that game happened in Midgar.

So it should have just stayed there.

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« Reply #303 on: December 22, 2011, 05:20:56 PM »
Kazushige Nojima: What I remember is the Honey Bee Inn, Toriyama (Motomu Toriyama) was in charge of the Honey Bee Inn’s events, but at first what took place there was more extreme, and everyone was saying “That’s going too far.”

Yoshinori Kitase: Was it really that bad?

Nojima: Yeah… for example, Palmer would emerge from the inn saying “Well, that was refreshing!” *laughing*

Kitase: Toriyama was always making weird, tricky little events like that that kept getting edited. For instance, there was once a scene on the station platform where Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie from AVALANCHE would face each other and try to combine into one.
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Kitase: When an event begins in Final Fantasy VII, the other two party members separate themselves from Cloud’s avatar. Once the event finishes, the party recombines and Cloud is alone once more. It’s just the way the game’s set up, but Toriyama parodied that. The three members of AVALANCHE were like "Let’s do that too!" and do their best to combine together, but they just ended up running into each other and muttering "I guess we still don’t have enough practice." *laughing*
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« Reply #304 on: December 22, 2011, 05:20:56 PM »
I played some Final Fantasy 7 yesterday and I made Cloud dress up as a woman so that he could be picked by a notorious crime lord/womanizer to become his bride, but this happened after I made him get raped by a group of muscle guys in a Jacuzzi. It was pretty awesome.
Everything that was good in that game happened in Midgar.

So it should have just stayed there.

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« Reply #305 on: December 22, 2011, 05:22:20 PM »
Also, Sephiroth shouldn't have existed in the first place. Shinra were much better villains.
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« Reply #306 on: December 22, 2011, 05:23:14 PM »
Aside from the Shadow Hearts series, I'd kill for another dark, adult RPG set in a dystopian city. Something in the vein of SMT:N but with people instead of monsters.

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« Reply #307 on: December 22, 2011, 05:24:14 PM »
I liked the part where the characters had to disguise themselves as Shinra soldiers and infiltrate the parade. And then purposefully mess everything up.
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« Reply #308 on: December 22, 2011, 05:25:13 PM »
I liked the part where the characters had to disguise themselves as Shinra soldiers and infiltrate the parade. And then purposefully mess everything up.

I did that part perfectly last run.
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« Reply #309 on: December 22, 2011, 05:26:01 PM »
The only other part of FFVII I liked was the City of the Ancients. Dat music.

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« Reply #310 on: December 22, 2011, 05:26:47 PM »
The best part of FF7 outside of Midgard was the Golden Saucer.



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« Reply #311 on: December 22, 2011, 05:26:50 PM »
FFVII has a lot of interesting ideas and stuff. I love how light hearted it is. If the game difficulty were higher it'd be such a boss game.
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« Reply #312 on: December 22, 2011, 05:28:38 PM »
Light hearted? The game's a giant cesspool of brooding angst. If there was any more angst, the game would explode in Hot Topic tears.

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« Reply #313 on: December 22, 2011, 05:29:00 PM »
I remember the first time I got the submarine and the music played and then I encountered Emerald Weapon. Fuck Emerald Weapon all day, all night long.



This song man.

12 years old.

FF7 was the perfect game for a pre-teen/early teen.  :-[
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« Reply #314 on: December 22, 2011, 05:29:07 PM »
The scrap-metal rocket was pretty awesome too:



And the Mako cannon:

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« Reply #315 on: December 22, 2011, 05:31:10 PM »
FFVII's underwater theme is pretty cool, though I preferred The Serpent Trench in FFVI.

Just because that's a fucking awesome name -- the Serpent Trench.

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« Reply #316 on: December 22, 2011, 05:31:36 PM »
Light hearted? The game's a giant cesspool of brooding angst. If there was any more angst, the game would explode in Hot Topic tears.

You must be joking. FF7 is among the most light hearted FF's. The wall market? Don Corneo? Yuffie? Rude getting high in Junon? The parade? You jump on to a thing 50 feet in the air from the nose of a dolphin.  The Golden Saucer? The bitch slap fight? Beneath the brood, FF7 has a lot of heart.

I love the part where you break in Shinra HQ and go into the toilets. :lol
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« Reply #317 on: December 22, 2011, 05:31:57 PM »
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I liked the part where the characters had to disguise themselves as Shinra soldiers and infiltrate the parade. And then purposefully mess everything up.

Toriyama did that part too! (seriously). He was responsible for (wrote/directed the events, NPC/townspeople text, minigames etc.) Sector 7, the Midgar trains, Honeybee Inn, upper Junon, Temple of the Ancients, the undersea Mako reactor, and the submarine minigame.
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« Reply #318 on: December 22, 2011, 05:32:31 PM »
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I liked the part where the characters had to disguise themselves as Shinra soldiers and infiltrate the parade. And then purposefully mess everything up.

Toriyama did that part too! (seriously). He was responsible for Sector 7, the Midgar trains, Honeybee Inn, upper Junon, Temple of the Ancients, the undersea Mako reactor, and the submarine minigame.

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« Reply #319 on: December 22, 2011, 05:33:39 PM »
FFVII also has the upper floors of Shinra, the slums, the fall of Sector 7, Nibelheim, Mt. Nibel, everything related to Sephiroth, everything related to Cloud, everything related to the planet, everything related to Aeris, and the finale with what happens to Midgar.

There were bits of goofy fun but the game is silly grimdark most of the time.

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« Reply #320 on: December 22, 2011, 05:35:58 PM »
The upper floors of Shinra has a mad scientist trying to breed a young woman with a red wolf dog. :lol And then...and then...the dog talks! And he cries over his grandpa! :lol

The upper floors of Shinra were awesome, actually. Everything in Midgar owns. The slums own. The sector 7 fall owns. Nibelheim OWNS.
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« Reply #321 on: December 22, 2011, 05:36:28 PM »
now I can bury the best FF track in snow



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« Reply #322 on: December 22, 2011, 05:38:15 PM »
I have sucessfully replayed IX only once. Too slowwwwwwwwwwwww, too easyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Script, villains, characters (well...Zidane, Vivi, Dagger, and Steiner) are great! Riverdancing rats! :bow
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« Reply #323 on: December 22, 2011, 05:39:45 PM »
It's all about the experience. The music, the locales, the characters, the story, the goddamn DETAIL to everything in IX's world is just the absolute pinnacle of jRPGs. Bring whoever wrote IX back, they can write a good story.

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« Reply #324 on: December 22, 2011, 05:41:25 PM »
IX had a crap villain and Zidane and all the rest of the good guys were pretty dull outside Vivi.  The battle system takes FOREVER.

It had some great scenes though.  But I think it was the weakest of the PS1 trio.

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« Reply #325 on: December 22, 2011, 05:42:56 PM »
Crap villain? Kuja is one of the most well-written villains in the series.

lol Zidane being dull

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« Reply #326 on: December 22, 2011, 05:44:30 PM »
Zidane and Steiner dull? lol
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« Reply #327 on: December 22, 2011, 05:44:47 PM »
don't you guys dare to touch my FFVII :punch

It's all about the experience. The music, the locales, the characters, the story, the goddamn DETAIL to everything in IX's world is just the absolute pinnacle of jRPGs. Bring whoever wrote IX back, they can write a good story.

yes! this man understand how jrpg works
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« Reply #328 on: December 22, 2011, 05:46:42 PM »
Why, exactly? He was an actor who thought he was the director in his own play, and completely snapped when he realized he had no control over his own existence.

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« Reply #329 on: December 22, 2011, 05:48:39 PM »
Yeahhhh...I don't think I play jrpgs for "the experience". I play wrpgs for "the experience".
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« Reply #330 on: December 22, 2011, 05:49:56 PM »
IX IS an experience, from beginning to end, though. It constantly tops itself over and over and over again.

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« Reply #331 on: December 22, 2011, 05:51:11 PM »
it's just that he strikes me as generic,there's really nothing interessing about him,he's crazy and evil and that's about it... he might as well be called kefka 2
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« Reply #332 on: December 22, 2011, 05:51:39 PM »
I just remember getting my grindan on to 100% every skill and playing Chocobo Hot and Cold and Moogle Mail because they all owned.
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« Reply #333 on: December 22, 2011, 05:52:10 PM »
it's just that he strikes me as generic,there's really nothing interessing about him,he's crazy and evil and that's about it... he might as well be called kefka 2

He's also flamboyant. At the time that was pretty different for a jrpg villain.
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« Reply #334 on: December 22, 2011, 05:53:40 PM »
it's just that he strikes me as generic,there's really nothing interessing about him,he's crazy and evil and that's about it... he might as well be called kefka 2
He's not generic, though? He's legitimately scared about dying, about not being able to have any control over his own fate. Kefka was insane just to be insane, Kuja had an absolutely manic fear of death.

He's not just crazy and evil.

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« Reply #335 on: December 22, 2011, 05:54:39 PM »
Don't worry Zephyr, you will soon learn that "generic" is Magus' rebuttal to every thing.
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« Reply #336 on: December 22, 2011, 05:54:47 PM »
what can i say,i like queen's brayne goofy evil muppet look better :derp
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« Reply #337 on: December 22, 2011, 05:56:17 PM »
what can i say,i like queen's brayne goofy evil muppet look better :derp

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« Reply #338 on: December 22, 2011, 05:56:44 PM »
Don't worry Zephyr, you will soon learn that "generic" is Magus' rebuttal to every thing.



Kuja doesn't like being called generic.

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« Reply #339 on: December 22, 2011, 05:57:19 PM »
Kuja completely decimates riverdancing rats. How could he?
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« Reply #340 on: December 22, 2011, 05:59:37 PM »
Bring whoever wrote IX back, they can write a good story.

That was Sakaguchi, so, yeah, not gonna happen.
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« Reply #341 on: December 22, 2011, 06:20:47 PM »
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I liked the part where the characters had to disguise themselves as Shinra soldiers and infiltrate the parade. And then purposefully mess everything up.

Toriyama did that part too! (seriously). He was responsible for Sector 7, the Midgar trains, Honeybee Inn, upper Junon, Temple of the Ancients, the undersea Mako reactor, and the submarine minigame.

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That just gets back to my thesis, that Square has actually been pretty consistent in a lot of ways but is perceived differently based on context and some other stuff that's basically external to the things themselves. Toriyama for example has always specialized in fucked-up events, weird and tricky ones as Kitase put it, but his fucked-up weirdness in the Honeybee Inn etc. in FF7 get perceived differently than the fucked-up weirdness in 3rd Birthday for example. But from his and Square's perspective while making them, they probably think of them as basically the same kind of thing.
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« Reply #342 on: December 22, 2011, 06:52:27 PM »
9 is too slow, i've played vii too much...have never even booted up 8.  so....how is it?

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« Reply #343 on: December 22, 2011, 06:55:09 PM »
9 is too slow, i've played vii too much...have never even booted up 8.  so....how is it?

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« Reply #344 on: December 22, 2011, 06:56:35 PM »
I gave up on 8 after the first 3 hrs.  Shit was too damn slow.

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« Reply #345 on: December 22, 2011, 06:57:25 PM »
is the battle system/gameplay slow? 

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« Reply #346 on: December 22, 2011, 06:58:19 PM »
VIII is a beautiful dream of a game, it's all about taking strolls through quiet seaside towns and feeling all :uguu :uguu and wanting desperately to marry Squall. At least that's how I feel about it.
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« Reply #347 on: December 22, 2011, 07:00:20 PM »
so....about that gameplay

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« Reply #348 on: December 22, 2011, 07:01:36 PM »
battles in FF8 are quite slow with 10 second load times, long animations (that play one at a time as in FF7 and 9), and high-HP enemies.
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« Reply #349 on: December 22, 2011, 07:03:33 PM »
damnit.  oh well.  XIII-2 is about a month away, along with SC5, then Tales of the Abyss 3DS a couple weeks later and some other stuff and goddamn even when you try to not have a backlog you get a backlog if you like games too much.

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« Reply #350 on: December 22, 2011, 07:06:57 PM »
Yeah, FF8 is also really unbalanced for the first 75% of the game, although the remaining 25% is actually interestingly designed and nicely challenging provided you don't do the annoying sidequests that get you the game-breaking ultimate stuff.
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« Reply #351 on: December 22, 2011, 07:17:56 PM »
The problem with FF for me is that while I haven't really liked any of them overall since 6, I haven't been able to hate or write off any of them either as they all keep having a lot of aspects that are cool or could have potentially been cool or are at least interesting. So while pretty much all of them from 7 on have been about a 5 out of 10 for me, they unfortunately haven't been ordinary mediocre 5/10s but rather "if only ...  :'(" 5/10s. Thus I've been doomed to keep following them and never find closure  :'(
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« Reply #352 on: December 22, 2011, 07:21:59 PM »
9 is too slow, i've played vii too much...have never even booted up 8.  so....how is it?
Don't bother, try IX again.

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« Reply #353 on: December 22, 2011, 07:28:04 PM »
VIII is faster than VII or IX.
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« Reply #354 on: December 22, 2011, 07:28:04 PM »
I'd like to see an FF9 rerelease on more powerful hardware - it'd be worthwhile even if it just fixed the load times and nothing else.
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« Reply #355 on: December 22, 2011, 07:29:09 PM »
VIII is faster than VII or IX.

It is slower than 7 in every way. Compared to 9, the load times are (a few seconds) shorter, the animations are longer.
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« Reply #356 on: December 22, 2011, 07:34:01 PM »
VIII is faster than VII or IX.

It is slower than 7 in every way. Compared to 9, the load times are (a few seconds) shorter, the animations are longer.

Faster ATB at fastest speed, though I'll give you 7 has faster animations.
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« Reply #357 on: December 22, 2011, 07:37:20 PM »
That doesn't have much effect on the overall speed (throughput) - other than in pathological cases (1-character party), you spend a lot more time waiting for animations to finish than waiting for ATB bars to fill up (or for charge time to finish in 9's case).
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« Reply #358 on: December 22, 2011, 07:38:00 PM »
The summoning animation was too long.  They should have let people skip that crap.

How's 12 in that area?  I still haven't gotten past the 1st hour. 

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« Reply #359 on: December 22, 2011, 07:39:26 PM »
play parasite eve



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