Official *Consoles Are For Losers* thread

[Beezy]

Used 3G Vitas are going for less than the Wifi Vitas here for some reason.  You can get one for like $160 right now.  I sure hope Sony's not fooling themselves about that 4G Vita having any effect at all.  On the plus side, it might push down used prices for the 3G even more.  If it gets to $120, I'll grab one.

Does this thing play PSP games?

[bachikarn]

I think microsoft is seriously overestimating how much people want a media machine.

If you already have something that streams netflix (basicly any device now) you dont need something else.

Not to mention none of this is even slightly relevant outside of the us.

I doubt kinect 2 will win europe and japan over.

There was a stat at some point that said more people used XBL for Netflix than gaming.

[Cerveza mas fina]

I think microsoft is seriously overestimating how much people want a media machine.

If you already have something that streams netflix (basicly any device now) you dont need something else.

Not to mention none of this is even slightly relevant outside of the us.

I doubt kinect 2 will win europe and japan over.

There was a stat at some point that said more people used XBL for Netflix than gaming.

98.8% of people in the European Union don't have Netlfix.

There is only 1 million netflix subs in Europe and all of those are in the Uk and Ireland.

(EU has over 500 million people)

If MS is targeting that 1 million crowd then good jon microsoft.

[Cerveza mas fina]

For comparison in North America Netflix has 25 million subscribers. Plus you have things like Hulu and other services.

[maxy]

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/02/12/the-last-of-us-may-have-been-delayed/

There are rumours this morning that Naughty Dog’s The Last Of Us may have had its release date pushed back to June 18th, six weeks from the previously confirmed May 7th release date.

The rumours started after US retailer Best Buy sent out an email to customers who pre-ordered The Last Of Us, informing them that the game had been pushed back to June 18th.

delays,delays

[ManaByte]

I'd use Netflix on my Xbox, but since it requires XBL I just can use my Apple TV, PS3, Wii U, PC, Laptop, iPhone or iPad to watch Netflix without an additional sub.

[maxy]

God of War 2 and FF12 were both released after PS3 has hit the market and they still moved good amounts according to Oscar data IIRC.

Yeah,but you are talking about two big well known franchises released on PS2.This is one week after E3(June 11-13),I guess they will have to talk about it.

[Huff]

You guyz are such downers. Give into the excitement of new consoles. There will be plenty to bitch about later

[Steve Youngblood]

You guyz are such downers. Give into the excitement of new consoles. There will be plenty to bitch about later

We'll see. I'm tentatively excited to see what PS4 has in store for us.

[maxy]

TLOU has massive hype coming from the Uncharted fanboys and is releasing when The Walking Dead is a hot TV series.

It's not sent to die like Gears of War: LOLment.

Try again, maxboxy.

Ok.
Patience is my virtue

[tiesto]

You guyz are such downers. Give into the excitement of new consoles. There will be plenty to bitch about later

We'll see. I'm tentatively excited to see what PS4 has in store for us.

I'd fucking kill for a Ni No Kuni 2 on PS4, but considering its Japanese bomba, that's a no-no

A game like Ni No Kuni, or Xenoblade... are the kinds of games that sell me on a console.

[maxy]

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/exh8ef/pach-attack--sony-meeting-special

 

Yoshida going...Tokyo--New York--Tokyo--New York

[Mupepe]

TLOU has massive hype coming from the Uncharted fanboys and is releasing when The Walking Dead is a hot TV series.

It's not sent to die like Gears of War: LOLment.

Try again, maxboxy.

Borys is a horrible troll.  I still wub you

[Diunx]

Man I'm gonna be at work when this shit is on! going to live off gifs until I get home :'(

[cool breeze]

The new Batman Arkham game coming out this year will not be done by Rocksteady

I take that as positive news meaning Rocksteady might be working on a next gen game instead

[Brehvolution]

Leaked mock up

[ManaByte]

The new Batman Arkham game coming out this year will not be done by Rocksteady

I take that as positive news meaning Rocksteady might be working on a next gen game instead

Rocksteady's game is current gen. They've been working on it ever since they finished Arkham City. It's a stylized (probably cel-shaded) prequel set in the Silver Age centered around Batman's first encounter with Joker.

[ManaByte]

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Leaked mock up
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No share button. Fail.

[Purple Filth]

Edit: actually, the HDMI out has me a bit skeptical

Patent reveals 4G Vita, some places have details.

     

• a significant firmware update will go live bringing in a lot of requested features including new ways to organize apps in folders.
•    A price cut on memory cards will be made. No details on prices.

Best parts of this rumor

[maxy]

CD-Action Mag known for reviewing big games early has reviewed Crysis 3 and gave it a great 9 out of 10. a user from Crydev forums named “pcrysis” published a few details about the review as you can see below:

it takes 5h to complete game in normal mode with sidemissions
there is something cool after credits
probably driveble tank
ending doesn’t exclude future dlc
last two levels are really big
facial animations better done than in LA Noire
you can see the cover of magazine calling it a MEGA REVIEW because its 8 pages.

overall 9/10
gameplay 9/10
video 10/10
audio 8/10

If true

Crytek
Poland 

[maxy]

This is pretty big
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/186504/EAs_money_man_spills_the_beans_on_its_nextgen_plans.php#.URqxaB26b0d

"The reality is, is that fiscal year 2014 will still be a fairly large gen-three if there's a console business that comes in at the tail end of the year, mainly because a lot of our titles are built around sports calendars. And so a FIFA, a Madden, an NCAA, an NHL title, all come out aligned with the sports calendar. And if a next-gen console doesn't come out until next Christmas, most people won't wait. They'll want to be involved in getting those titles early, because their friends are all playing those titles, and because they're being played on a current generation's consoles.

"An important thing to remember is that next-gen consoles will most likely not be backwards compatible… And if you [play] multiplayer on a game, you'll most likely not be able to play with someone on a different generation. And so if you're a FIFA player and, and the soccer season's starting in August, and all your friends are playing FIFA, you're going to want to be on the same box that they're on. So if they all go out and buy a gen-four box if it comes out at Christmas, then you'll most likely do it. If they all hold on and continue to play on third-generation, you'll probably not see that box purchase until after the soccer season's over.

"And I think that works for us positively in both ways. It helps us continue to sell gen-three products, and it will help us sell gen-four product as that cycle finally gets into place."

Gaming industry bye bye

[Cerveza mas fina]

The review is longer then the game :0

[Mupepe]

TLOU has massive hype coming from the Uncharted fanboys and is releasing when The Walking Dead is a hot TV series.

It's not sent to die like Gears of War: LOLment.

Try again, maxboxy.

Borys is a horrible troll.  I still wub you

My trolls are awful :'(

But you are awesome.  Rememer that.

[Fifstar]

This is pretty big
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/186504/EAs_money_man_spills_the_beans_on_its_nextgen_plans.php#.URqxaB26b0d

"The reality is, is that fiscal year 2014 will still be a fairly large gen-three if there's a console business that comes in at the tail end of the year, mainly because a lot of our titles are built around sports calendars. And so a FIFA, a Madden, an NCAA, an NHL title, all come out aligned with the sports calendar. And if a next-gen console doesn't come out until next Christmas, most people won't wait. They'll want to be involved in getting those titles early, because their friends are all playing those titles, and because they're being played on a current generation's consoles.

"An important thing to remember is that next-gen consoles will most likely not be backwards compatible… And if you [play] multiplayer on a game, you'll most likely not be able to play with someone on a different generation. And so if you're a FIFA player and, and the soccer season's starting in August, and all your friends are playing FIFA, you're going to want to be on the same box that they're on. So if they all go out and buy a gen-four box if it comes out at Christmas, then you'll most likely do it. If they all hold on and continue to play on third-generation, you'll probably not see that box purchase until after the soccer season's over.

"And I think that works for us positively in both ways. It helps us continue to sell gen-three products, and it will help us sell gen-four product as that cycle finally gets into place."

Gaming industry bye bye

We're entering generation 4? Wouldn't this be at the least gen 6?

[Huff]

This is pretty big
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/186504/EAs_money_man_spills_the_beans_on_its_nextgen_plans.php#.URqxaB26b0d

"The reality is, is that fiscal year 2014 will still be a fairly large gen-three if there's a console business that comes in at the tail end of the year, mainly because a lot of our titles are built around sports calendars. And so a FIFA, a Madden, an NCAA, an NHL title, all come out aligned with the sports calendar. And if a next-gen console doesn't come out until next Christmas, most people won't wait. They'll want to be involved in getting those titles early, because their friends are all playing those titles, and because they're being played on a current generation's consoles.

"An important thing to remember is that next-gen consoles will most likely not be backwards compatible… And if you [play] multiplayer on a game, you'll most likely not be able to play with someone on a different generation. And so if you're a FIFA player and, and the soccer season's starting in August, and all your friends are playing FIFA, you're going to want to be on the same box that they're on. So if they all go out and buy a gen-four box if it comes out at Christmas, then you'll most likely do it. If they all hold on and continue to play on third-generation, you'll probably not see that box purchase until after the soccer season's over.

"And I think that works for us positively in both ways. It helps us continue to sell gen-three products, and it will help us sell gen-four product as that cycle finally gets into place."

Gaming industry bye bye

We're entering generation 4? Wouldn't this be at the least gen 6?

EA internal term for generations after 3d was introduced or something of the sort

[Joe Molotov]

Playstation invented gaming.

[Cormacaroni]

i have not so much as smiled at a single one of these gifs. I am not totally immune to earthling humor I think, but there has to be some kind of substance behind them for them to be funny. We have no decent information yet so there is nothing to attack or satirize yet, just this weird fetishism of company spokespersons.

[ManaByte]

http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/12/gamestop-60-of-customers-wont-buy-a-new-console-that-blocks-used-games/

[Flannel Boy]

http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/12/gamestop-60-of-customers-wont-buy-a-new-console-that-blocks-used-games/

Although the results are probably accurate, lol at the source. "69% of Americans will not buy cars that block ethanol," claims National Corn Growers Association.

[Cormacaroni]

60% of customers aren't thinking seriously about the possibility of playing their 360/PS3 for the next ten years either

It's one of those 'Would you like a cookie? YES' answers that would change utterly if there was another choice, i.e. 'Would you like a cookie or $10'

[Flannel Boy]

Lloyd said it has conducted research into the used game trade and has shared the results with platform holders.

. . .

“I think it was 60% of customers who said they wouldn't buy a new console [if it blocks used games]"

Lloyd then went on to say that the research was conducted by "Mr. . . . Floyd from . . . some place far away--yes that will do."

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

This is pretty big
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/186504/EAs_money_man_spills_the_beans_on_its_nextgen_plans.php#.URqxaB26b0d

"The reality is, is that fiscal year 2014 will still be a fairly large gen-three if there's a console business that comes in at the tail end of the year, mainly because a lot of our titles are built around sports calendars. And so a FIFA, a Madden, an NCAA, an NHL title, all come out aligned with the sports calendar. And if a next-gen console doesn't come out until next Christmas, most people won't wait. They'll want to be involved in getting those titles early, because their friends are all playing those titles, and because they're being played on a current generation's consoles.

"An important thing to remember is that next-gen consoles will most likely not be backwards compatible… And if you [play] multiplayer on a game, you'll most likely not be able to play with someone on a different generation. And so if you're a FIFA player and, and the soccer season's starting in August, and all your friends are playing FIFA, you're going to want to be on the same box that they're on. So if they all go out and buy a gen-four box if it comes out at Christmas, then you'll most likely do it. If they all hold on and continue to play on third-generation, you'll probably not see that box purchase until after the soccer season's over.

"And I think that works for us positively in both ways. It helps us continue to sell gen-three products, and it will help us sell gen-four product as that cycle finally gets into place."

Gaming industry bye bye

Why would they when they can just sell the games on their dd service?  Have fun paying $30 for an "Xbox 360 original" that you can buy at a Gamestop for $10.

[Cormacaroni]

this supposed lack of BC is just one more reason why fanboyism is fucking stupid

If we are not buying into an existing and ongoing series of games platforms, why on earth would we care about Microsoft vs Sony? We have no skin in the game so no reason not to jump ship (assuming we don't just buy both).

[Human Snorenado]

Lack of BC is one thing... not being able to transfer over, say, your XBL arcade games would be pretty shitty though.  Even continuing to support a 360 would suck, because you're cluttering your living room up with a console that you're only using for one thing.

[Cormacaroni]

I like the idea that you sit around all night imagining how all the different ways that next-gen is gonna be shitty for other people

[Human Snorenado]

Hey man, somebody has to

[Cormacaroni]

do you get requests in PMs

[Human Snorenado]

I mainly get love mail from Drew in PMs

[maxy]

No retail BC is so so

No Live BC is just plain wrong.MS is playing with fire.

[Cerveza mas fina]

I dont care bout retail BC cause I sell that shit anyway. But no Live/PSN bc is 

Between Steam and the app store people expect this. Its one of the things I demand if I'm not able to resell, access to what I bought.

[Stoney Mason]

No retail BC is so so

No Live BC is just plain wrong.MS is playing with fire.

Yeah the no bc bothers me a lot more than the used game stuff.

[archnemesis]

It's the opposite for me. Emulating a different CPU architecture isn't easy. Not blocking used games, on the other hand, requires no effort at all.

[Cerveza mas fina]

It's the opposite for me. Emulating a different CPU architecture isn't easy. Not blocking used games, on the other hand, requires no effort at all.

Oh yeah not blocking used games is VERY important for me. I want to sell stuff.

[Stoney Mason]

It's the opposite for me. Emulating a different CPU architecture isn't easy. Not blocking used games, on the other hand, requires no effort at all.

I do not want to keep my 360 hooked up once I get a new console but there are a lot of 360 games I would still like to play when the new console comes out. It sucks on a rights level about the used game stuff but based on my actual real life buying practices it doesn't actually effect me. Although I understand people have different priorities.

[archnemesis]

A lot of niche games are only available at retail for a few months before they disappear completely. Being able to buy them used is the often the only alternative for me.

[archnemesis]

I do not want to keep my 360 hooked up once I get a new console but there are a lot of 360 games I would still like to play when the new console comes out. It sucks on a rights level about the used game stuff but based on my actual real life buying practices it doesn't actually effect me. Although I understand people have different priorities.

Sure, it's the same for me. I only have room for one or two consoles in my living room and BC is a very nice feature to have. Despite this I actually prefer that Sony abandon the Cell/SPEs setup and goes with something that will generate less complaints from developers and hopefully will result in better ports. It's possible that they will still have some kind of BC through software emulation or Gaikai streaming, but I wouldn't keep my hopes up.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

I dont care bout retail BC cause I sell that shit anyway. But no Live/PSN bc is 

Between Steam and the app store people expect this. Its one of the things I demand if I'm not able to resell, access to what I bought.

fucking word.
even paint huffing Nintendo got this part right.

[maxy]

I'm in the same boat with Stoney,used games would not effect me but the idea that my admittingly small Live library(15-20 things) is not going to transfer...that is one hard pill to swallow
I would still succumb under the weight of games at some point,but that point will be delayed and digitally buying anything else than DLC will be a big no no.

[huckleberry]

I never, ever cared about BC but I can see it as a anti-consumer move from both camps. It's just something console owners take for granted that new console is always somewhat BC with the last one.

It's not necessarily ant-consumer if they are changing architectures in such as a way that makes it not feasible to include bc. Not having out past Xbox Live and PSN games does suck though, no doubt it. I have upwards of 150 Live games and 30 or 40 PSN game myself - not being able to carry those forward sucks balls.

[Momo]

BC is a tiny issue for me, but I dont expect everyone to be like me and still have stuff like a NES handy

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

How many people really use the BC feature anyway?  How about past the first year after the console has been out?

The Live games will be a problem but they can just make money reselling the popular titles anyway.  You know they're going to put out a Durango version of Minecraft eventually.

[Momo]

BC is a tiny issue for me.

Betcha BBC isn't

I'm more of a channel5/sky guy

[hampster]

Even if they could put BC in the new consoles I doubt they would. The old consoles aren't even that cheap yet so they have a ton of life left. Even after a price drop they would probably bringing in more money then a new sold at or below cost PS4/720. Keeping BC out helps the old consoles remain viable longer

Personally I don't care all that much. I've been pretty stingy with my PSN purchases the last few years, opting to buy most of my cheap downloadable games on steam.

[archnemesis]

How many people really use the BC feature anyway?  How about past the first year after the console has been out?

I use it quite often and I would use it even more if it was 100% compatible with all games. The European launch PS3s can't for instance run Shadow Hearts.

[fistfulofmetal]

without backward compatibility i would never had been able to play Persona 4 when i did. so fuck them if they go that route.

[Phoenix Dark]

BC is a tiny issue for me.

Betcha BBC isn't

I'm more of a channel5/sky guy

Borys is on a roll

[maxy]

http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/13/ps4-controller-new-details-emerge-pre-reveal/

A VG247 source has seemingly confirmed that the PS4 controller will include a front touch-pad, speaking a week before the console’s expected reveal in New York.

A VG247 source said today that PS4′s rumoured controller touch-pad is real. The input is on the front of the handset. The Start and Select buttons have been moved as a result.

The controller is “more or less” the same shape as the current DualShock. We’ve been told today that the L2 and R2 buttons have been remodelled for the better.

The existence of the touch-pad has been previously reported by Edge, but claims a “Share” button exists on the controller from the same report were debunked by our source today. Apparently it isn’t there.

http://www.fumi.to/

To All Interested Parties:

様々な創作の可能性を模索したいという動機から、少し前に（株）ソニー・コンピュータエンタテインメント （以下SCE） ジャパンスタジオを退社いたしました。
現在はフリーランス契約として『人喰いの大鷲トリコ』に携わっています。

お待たせしております『人喰いの大鷲トリコ』ですが、現在 も引き続き作品が目指す方向を提示するポジションに就いており、優秀なスタッフとともに制作を進めております。

ですが、それをどう世に出していくのかは、SCEが決定、発表していくと思いますので、今僕から何かをお伝えすることはできません。
皆さんに満足して貰えるような形で届けてくれる筈ですので、SCEからの正式な発表をお待ちください。

今後は、引き続き 『人喰いの大鷲トリコ』の制作と、特定の枠にこだわらない新たな創作の可能性に向け邁進してゆく所存です。
また、一個人としての創作活動にも積極的に取り組んでいきたいと考えておりますので、これからもよろしくお願いいたします。   

As some of you may have heard, I left Sony Computer Entertainment Japan Studio some time ago to pursue my creative passions. Nevertheless, I continue working on THE LAST GUARDIAN as a freelance contributor.

While it’s been a long time coming, THE LAST GUARDIAN remains under my creative supervision and is still in development by an incredibly talented team.

I should also mention that details regarding THE LAST GUARDIAN's release is solely decided by Sony Computer Entertainment, not myself. Please keep an eye out for their official announcement.

Moving forward, it is my intent to continue my involvement with THE LAST GUARDIAN project, as well as pursue new creative projects with a fresh perspective. As I rekindle my passions as a creator, I look forward to seeing where it will take me, and I deeply appreciate your support during this transition.

Gaf

It's PS4. It's been PS4 for a long time now.

I don't know, but I know it's been in development on Orbis for a long time now. It's platform has been questionable for nearly two years, but the last time it was restarted (it's been restarted a number of times), it was moved to Orbis.

[Don Flamenco]

wowwwww.  development of TLG took two gens.  History repeating itself with ICO.  Gotta love Sony for sticking with it though.  It would suck if Ueda left, his game canceled, and all we had were ICO + SOTC.


I can't believe people are complaining about the controller staying roughly the same shape.  They really don't understand "if it's not broke, then don't fix it."   If you ask these people what they want, the result would be some Poochie abomination.  Adding a touch area is literally the only modern control augment they needed to do.

[Huff]

I'm telling you, Ueda hates odd numbers

[Stoney Mason]

I'd like to see something truly innovative in a traditional controller but I'll be honest and admit I don't know exactly what that is.

I don't see the purpose for a touchpad but at least it seems relatively harmless in the grand scheme of things.