Author Topic: MASS EFFECT 3 |OT| (Read 71778 times)

Timber · « **Reply #480 on:** March 14, 2012, 10:09:56 AM »

Oh. Well, needless to say, that never happened in my game. Seems like an easy thing to cut.

I'm wondering though, what happens if you kill the Rachni in ME1? Does that entire sidequest in 3 just not happen?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #481 on:** March 14, 2012, 10:47:35 AM »

Quote from: Timber on March 14, 2012, 10:09:56 AM

Oh. Well, needless to say, that never happened in my game. Seems like an easy thing to cut.

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He also attacks Kei Leng during the attack on the Citadel. He gets stabbed by him and then Kei Leng escapes. So what happens in the confrontation between Sheppard and Kei Leng without Thane?

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Timber · « **Reply #482 on:** March 14, 2012, 10:57:57 AM »

Found out there's a Mass Effect wiki that covers the different scenarios.

RE: Thane and Kai Leng (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Kai_Leng)

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Leng saw action when Councilor Udina attempted a coup against the Citadel Council and allied with Cerberus. He was close to assassinating the salarian councilor when Shepard and either Major Kirrahe or Thane Krios interfered. Leng managed to escape after stabbing Krios or Kirrahe. In a race to get to the Council, Leng disabled Shepard's X3M, but ultimately failed his mission and forced to retreat. If both Thane and the major died in previous installments, Leng will successfully assassinate the councilor.

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Salarian guy showed up in my game.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #483 on:** March 14, 2012, 11:17:14 AM »

interesting. though that situation could easily be replaced with someone else. The Miranda situation though is different.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #484 on:** March 14, 2012, 11:37:28 AM »

I'm rescuing the Turian whatever on the moon. I have to fight two giant beast things and a half dozen laser guys. Checkpoint starts me off with no health or ammo. This is more frustrating than the last game was on insanity.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #485 on:** March 14, 2012, 11:43:30 AM »

What happens if you kill garrus and tali in ME2?

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similiary what hapens if u kill Legion?

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Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #486 on:** March 14, 2012, 12:27:08 PM »

Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on March 14, 2012, 11:43:30 AM

What happens if you kill garrus and tali in ME2?

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similiary what hapens if u kill Legion?
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Legion was the only squad member that died in my ME2 playthrough. Curious what they do with that in ME3.

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MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #487 on:** March 14, 2012, 12:29:30 PM »

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in the geth attack base mission with the quarians legion is what powers the base station

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Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #488 on:** March 14, 2012, 12:36:01 PM »

Quote from: Thomas Householmes Lane on March 14, 2012, 12:29:30 PM

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in the geth attack base mission with the quarians legion is what powers the base station
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Hmmm.... I'll let you know what happens.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #489 on:** March 14, 2012, 01:00:26 PM »

20% off PC version at Green Man Gaming:

http://www.greenmangaming.com/promo/masseffect3/

Timber · « **Reply #490 on:** March 14, 2012, 06:44:04 PM »

Good piece of apologia from Richard Cobbett: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/03/14/mass-effect-3-the-end-of-an-epic/

Will of course fall on deaf ears of the GAF/Bioware Social types but it's always refreshing to read a video game opinion piece that doesn't slant too heavily one way or the other.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #491 on:** March 14, 2012, 07:19:12 PM »

That's a pretty good article, EXCEPT:

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Should the problems be fixed though? Honestly… no. Even if doing so would improve the game, this is the ending that Bioware chose, and storytellers should always have the right to choose how their stories end.

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The only time I can see a real exception to this rule is when an ending is fundamentally broken – Fallout 3 being the obvious example.

You can't really have it both ways here.

And many would argue, and I'd be one of them, that Mass Effect 3's ending IS fundamentally broken. Whether Bioware wants to admit that they were wrong or whether it was all part of their devious plan [see: Green Man's post] for the craziest ending ever, is entirely up to them.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #492 on:** March 14, 2012, 08:20:32 PM »

got my rating to just under 5k after the % reduction! multiplayer is OK. but after this week i'm never playing it again.

Boogie · « **Reply #493 on:** March 14, 2012, 08:45:44 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on March 14, 2012, 08:20:32 PM

got my rating to just under 5k after the % reduction! multiplayer is OK. but after this week i'm never playing it again.

Ya, multiplayer doesn't exactly suck, it isn't a pain, but there's also no compelling reason to play it after you hit the 5k threshold.

Which, obviously Bioware knew, hence Galactic Readiness being there in the first place.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #494 on:** March 14, 2012, 09:04:41 PM »

what the fuck is going on in the normandy? it pretty much looks the same as last time but someone turned the lights way the fuck up. it feels like i'm getting blinded by monitors or light fixtures every time i try to have a conversation

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #495 on:** March 14, 2012, 10:15:36 PM »

i think the best part of the multiplayer is right at the end when you have to get to the loading zone and last for 2 minutes to get the 11th wave. especially when you're facing cerberus and there's mad dudes everywhere and it really does feel like a desperate last stand situation.

i'm also finding i'm getting kicked out of games a lot because my level isn't that high.... which i dont understand how that's possible. you would think they would player match me with like level people

Positive Touch · « **Reply #496 on:** March 14, 2012, 11:16:57 PM »

i dont think it has any kind of matchmaking criteria beyond "here's an empty slot!"

and did this game seriously just make me switch to disc 2 to do a sidequest? and then crash while reloading after i died on that mission? i mean seriously

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #497 on:** March 15, 2012, 01:06:26 AM »

I'm kinda addicted to the multiplayer right now and really like it more than the horde modes in Halo and Gears but that's for very specific reasons.

I like the different classes in the mass effect universe rather than how everybody is the same in gears or Halo. That mix of running around with different classes and playing with weapons and types I normally don't without having to replay the campaign is very addicting to me. Playing as a solider in ME 3 is so different than how I played the campaign as an adept.

It's not especially balanced. Some classes are over-powered. Some abilities are over-powered (stealth) and people have already found lots of glitch spots where they can't be killed to cheese it but most of the time when I play I find it very fun. Especially on Silver. If you have a good squad you can decimate that mode. I'll try gold once I experiment with a few different classes.

demi · « **Reply #498 on:** March 15, 2012, 09:36:21 AM »

Why are you surprised? Now they have the greatest room to create many sequels, other people's stories.

Boogie · « **Reply #499 on:** March 15, 2012, 10:51:43 AM »

I should finish up the game tonight. Can't wait to see what all the bitching is about.

It will be a shame, because this final mission stuff has been pretty badass so far.

MCD · « **Reply #500 on:** March 15, 2012, 06:11:18 PM »

Kai Leng is the gayest space ninja ever.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #501 on:** March 15, 2012, 06:11:23 PM »

The most interesting DLC to me would be to go way back. Like with Anderson as the main character and do a first contact war expansion or something just earlier in the timeline. They won't though because that's a lot of work and would require a lot of new art assets and game design and audio work.

I'm fine with them saving post event stuff for the next game. But I'd still prefer DLC that involved something other than just the events around ME 3. I feel like that story has been told.

I could maybe see something being done with Cerberus and sort of the inside story there. That's what the books have always concentrated on. I just think you need a different lead character to do that rather than shepard. But once again I don't think they would be willing to put that much work into DLC. So they'll probably just have additional side missions like in ME 1 and ME 2.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #502 on:** March 15, 2012, 06:23:26 PM »

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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #503 on:** March 15, 2012, 08:43:46 PM »

They see me trollin', they hatin'.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #504 on:** March 15, 2012, 08:46:20 PM »

got mah score over 5k. i figure i'll do one more session of multiplayer tomorrow then i'll finish the game on Saturday.

MCD · « **Reply #505 on:** March 15, 2012, 09:20:46 PM »

My score is 3000. Now I must play boring multiplayer missions?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #506 on:** March 15, 2012, 09:49:49 PM »

Quote from: MCD on March 15, 2012, 09:20:46 PM

My score is 3000. Now I must play boring multiplayer missions?

It's all relative. The endings aren't really that radically different. Even the "best" ones. The first time I beat the game my score was like 3600 and then I did it again to get it up over 5000 and the difference was practically nothing.

MCD · « **Reply #507 on:** March 16, 2012, 04:50:35 AM »

Readiness rating: 100%

I hope you are happy now, Bioshit.

magus · « **Reply #508 on:** March 16, 2012, 08:12:02 AM »

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Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #509 on:** March 16, 2012, 04:56:19 PM »

put that second one behind spoiler tags? I dunno, it looks spoilery. not that I really care at this point. $:-\$

I just had sexy space sex, felt gross, went back to an earlier save. I hate Bioware

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #510 on:** March 16, 2012, 05:41:16 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on March 15, 2012, 11:54:27 PM

Any chance those CD Projekt dudes are into making sci-fi games?

MAN THAT WOULD BE FUCKING AWESOME. you just made me depressed because they're only gonna ever make Witcher games

which isnt bad... but still

magus · « **Reply #511 on:** March 16, 2012, 05:54:05 PM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on March 16, 2012, 04:56:19 PM

put that second one behind spoiler tags? I dunno, it looks spoilery. not that I really care at this point. $:-\$

I just had sexy space sex, felt gross, went back to an earlier save. I hate Bioware

uhm i'm sorry i really didn't think that would count as a spoiler

MCD · « **Reply #512 on:** March 16, 2012, 08:35:14 PM »

Let me just say this:

Gundam 00 flower ending > This lol.

MCD · « **Reply #513 on:** March 16, 2012, 09:02:17 PM »

Ending spoilers:

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But no, really, did we need choices? The ending was perfect with Shepard and Anderson laying down there.

WTF IS THIS KID CREATOR THING? IS THIS A JAPANESE ANIME?

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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #514 on:** March 16, 2012, 09:06:30 PM »

Quote from: MCD on March 16, 2012, 09:02:17 PM

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But no, really, did we need choices? The ending was perfect with Shepard and Anderson laying down there.
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I totally agree there. The game ending with Shepard and Anderson, all shot up and burned up, just laying there and talking as the Catalyst activates and destroys the Reapers would have been so much more awesome than what happened directly after that.

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rodi · « **Reply #515 on:** March 16, 2012, 09:09:01 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on March 16, 2012, 09:06:30 PM

Quote from: MCD on March 16, 2012, 09:02:17 PM
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But no, really, did we need choices? The ending was perfect with Shepard and Anderson laying down there.
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I totally agree there. The game ending with Shepard and Anderson, all shot up and burned up, just laying there and talking as the Catalyst activates and destroys the Reapers would have been so much more awesome than what happened directly after that.
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That really would have been great, but then they decided to get all deep on us... and failed at it. Favorite game ruined, but there's always Assassin's Creed.

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Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #516 on:** March 16, 2012, 09:27:18 PM »

Legion...

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If he died in ME2, like he did in my game, there is another Geth that looks just like Legion in the core of the dreadnought. Shepard and Tali talk about how Legion died, and the fake Legion says he's not Legion.

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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #517 on:** March 17, 2012, 12:13:34 AM »

Just realized something hilarious about the ending:

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-Millions of Korgan are stranded on Earth
-Krogan are very warlike and aggressive
-I cured the genophage earlier in the game
-Krogan breed incredibly fast
-The Earth is in total ruins and millions [billions?] of humans and aliens are completely stranded on Earth without hope of contacting another habitable system

In other words, everyone is totally screwed because the Krogan are going to take over in a matter of years and eat everyone else.

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MCD · « **Reply #518 on:** March 17, 2012, 12:16:30 AM »

KROGAN RAAAAAAPE

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #519 on:** March 17, 2012, 12:26:52 AM »

Tons of spoilers, obviously:

http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

Sums it up as well as any article I've seen.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #520 on:** March 17, 2012, 12:25:06 PM »

i stopped playing once you get to the geth and quarians. really don't feel like playing anymore. $:-\$ how much is left?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #521 on:** March 17, 2012, 01:20:05 PM »

Beezy · « **Reply #522 on:** March 17, 2012, 01:31:52 PM »

If I finish up the final geth and quarian mission, will all the side missions become unavailable like what happened after finishing the Citadel mission? That pissed me off.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #523 on:** March 17, 2012, 01:33:43 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on March 17, 2012, 01:31:52 PM

If I finish up the final geth and quarian mission, will all the side missions become unavailable like what happened after finishing the Citadel mission? That pissed me off.

edit: let me think for a second how to answer this better without giving away spoilers.

edit 2:Do anything involving Citadel quests before you start this mission:
Priority: Cerberus Headquarters

Because after that you can't.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #524 on:** March 17, 2012, 01:46:47 PM »

Ending stuff:

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It really does negate everything. Blah. A series where choice is one of the most important aspects and the ending removes all choice and forces three nearly identical endings.... I went with "Destroy all synthetics" ending, but i didn't realize it would destroy all the mass relays. Did the starchild say it would and I just missed it? The ending just had no weight to it. I hate that the course of events is the same regardless of your actions in the series. It just reduces everything to three buttons. It's basically what happens at the end of Deus Ex: HR but that game does it's button choice ending far better.

and am i alone in thinking this but does the after-credit scene LITERALLY negate everything by implying the entire series is just a story a grandpa is telling his grandkid? that really sucked

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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #525 on:** March 17, 2012, 02:03:28 PM »

I found a quote that perfectly sums up the laughably absurd gulf between the professional reviewers and actual gamers:

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This is one for the fans, and few who buy it will be left unsatisfied by how the story - their story - ends.

http://www.videogamer.com/xbox360/mass_effect_3/review-2.html

And just how big is that gulf?

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Stoney Mason · « **Reply #526 on:** March 17, 2012, 02:14:19 PM »

People asking for a "brighter" ending are idiots imo. (Unless by brighter they mean smarter) Its fine however to not like the endings in ME 3. Ending doesn't bother me as I mentioned before but that's one opinion in a sea of them.

cool breeze · « **Reply #527 on:** March 17, 2012, 02:16:05 PM »

50k in donations to child's play* to change the ending. And someone filed a complaint to the FTC.

People mad

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #528 on:** March 17, 2012, 02:20:35 PM »

How couldn't the ending bother you? It flies in the face of what the Mass Effect series was built on. Making choices and seeing how events play out based on those choices. The ending sequences of ME1 and ME2 were full of choices you had to decide on. They all came together to shape the endings.

That's like... the opposite of what happens in the ending of ME3

I'm not even speaking to the literal plot details. I'm speaking to the design and mechanics involved. It's linear and boring.

Basically, in ME3, whenever you're on Earth the game sucks. Everything else is good to great.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #529 on:** March 17, 2012, 02:22:59 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on March 17, 2012, 02:20:35 PM

How couldn't the ending bother you?

Because I'm not the same human being as you.

As I always say you are free to have whatever opinion you have and express it as strongly as you want. Just don't expect me to necessarily agree with it.

It would be an utter waste of time to get in a nit pick argument of individual impressions. Me having my opinion doesn't invalidate your opinion.

maxy · « **Reply #530 on:** March 17, 2012, 02:23:42 PM »

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50k in donations to child's play* to change the ending. And someone filed a complaint to the FTC.

lol
suck it up losers

cool breeze · « **Reply #531 on:** March 17, 2012, 02:24:15 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 17, 2012, 02:14:19 PM

People asking for a "brighter" ending are idiots imo. (Unless by brighter they mean smarter) Its fine however to not like the endings in ME 3. Ending doesn't bother me as I mentioned before but that's one opinion in a sea of them.

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By brighter I think they mean "an option," not make the only ending happy.

That's one of the hang ups people had with it. There is only one ending regardless of choice.

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fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #532 on:** March 17, 2012, 02:26:50 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 17, 2012, 02:22:59 PM

It would be an utter waste of time to get in a nit pick argument of individual impressions. Me having my opinion doesn't invalidate your opinion.

having discussions is a waste of time? thats like... the purpose of a forum.

instead we just have everyone jerking each other off with the same opinion. having someone to disagree with and discuss their disagreements with is part of the reason why forums exist. instead you're just coping out.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #533 on:** March 17, 2012, 02:27:53 PM »

In regard to changing the ending:
I'm against.

The ending is the ending. No piece of DLC is going to change that. I saw the ending they created and anything else will just be the fake alternative.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #534 on:** March 17, 2012, 02:34:57 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on March 17, 2012, 02:26:50 PM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 17, 2012, 02:22:59 PM

It would be an utter waste of time to get in a nit pick argument of individual impressions. Me having my opinion doesn't invalidate your opinion.

having discussions is a waste of time? thats like... the purpose of a forum.

instead we just have everyone jerking each other off with the same opinion. having someone to disagree with and discuss their disagreements with is part of the reason why forums exist. instead you're just coping out.

I gave my opinion earlier in a longish post maybe back on the last page or something. You gave your opinion earlier. I'm fine with that and to cap it off I won't post anymore about people hating the ending or what my opinion was about the ending. Because its kinda not the point. That's my style. I say what I say. Somebody else says what they say. I'm cool with that.

Beezy · « **Reply #535 on:** March 17, 2012, 03:14:49 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 17, 2012, 01:33:43 PM

Quote from: Beezy on March 17, 2012, 01:31:52 PM
If I finish up the final geth and quarian mission, will all the side missions become unavailable like what happened after finishing the Citadel mission? That pissed me off.

edit: let me think for a second how to answer this better without giving away spoilers.

edit 2:Do anything involving Citadel quests before you start this mission:
Priority: Cerberus Headquarters

Because after that you can't.

Thanks Stoney

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #536 on:** March 17, 2012, 03:15:03 PM »

It's funny though. When ME3 leans on the past and gives you character moments with Liara, Garrus, and Tali - it's really great. REALLY great. It's some of the best videogame character moments I've seen. I loved the part with Liara:

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Where she shows you the galactic archive.

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And your moment with her at the end. I almost want to go replay the entire series just to romance with her instead of Tali.

All that stuff is just do good. Such a shame because the ending kinda sucks a lot of the interest I have in replaying the game because all of it is irrelevant in the end.

MCD · « **Reply #537 on:** March 17, 2012, 04:36:26 PM »

Waiting for part 3.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #538 on:** March 17, 2012, 08:11:46 PM »

"Hey, everybody! This store discriminates against the poor!"

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #539 on:** March 18, 2012, 04:08:01 PM »

Getting close to the endgame.

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I actually like Miranda, so I found her death on Sanctuary touching.

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