The Bore's Art Thread: Where we all pretend we're Picasso

[chronovore]

Finally finished up a portrait I have been postponing for months.

How long did you take to draw this?

Sorry, didn’t see this post until now.

Probably 90 minutes or so, not including a FAIL STATE first attempt which I discarded after half an hour. I was working from a photo, but not trying to replicate it. Dude had neat features.

[chronovore]

Tengu character from our D&D/Pathfinder game.

[chronovore]

Worth xposting from the Links thread. I gotta draw and write more. I'm good at what I'm doing, but it doesn't turn my crank. Even doing Producer work, even Art Director work, it's not as good as making stuff. I gotta "close that gap."

[chronovore]

http://imgur.com/gallery/V5Prm

NEAT STUFF.

[Atramental]

Yikes! 


Anyways... Artist Bore, what are some good inking pens if I wanted to do stuff like this:

[chronovore]

That's pretty epic! I like all the particulate matter that fills the air around it. The subdued shading on the recessed, exposed electronics is also impressive.

[Atramental]

I think the artist used copic markers but I could be wrong.

What's your favorite pens to ink with, Chrono?

[chronovore]

I think the artist used copic markers but I could be wrong.

What's your favorite pens to ink with, Chrono?

Oh, yeah: Copic pens are the best for this kind of stuff, but you have to be on the right kind of paper to really have them take the ink right and minimize overlapping stroke edges. Prismacolor is what I used in college, but I didn't stick with them. I'm not knowledgable enough to say what the differences between the two brands are.

[VomKriege]

Saw this recently :



It's a pretty awesome short choreography, visually striking. Super aggressive though, I was drained by the end. Amazing performance by Yum Keiko Takayama.

[VomKriege]

Also, just casually glancing the last message may induce one in error about the subject of the thread and lead to complete off topic.

[Valkyrie]

Saw this recently :



It's a pretty awesome short choreography, visually striking. Super aggressive though, I was drained by the end. Amazing performance by Yum Keiko Takayama.

Holy shit, this was awesome and very creepy. I clicked thinking it was gonna be one of those weird art student dances/performances, but they fucking nailed it. Sorry though but 04:13 had me laugh, and made me think of weird things.

[Atramental]

Samurai Cop. As seen on Red Letter Media. 



Be sure to follow me on Instagram if you haven't already. I'll hopefully be posting stuff weekly now that I got my work/life schedule all figured out.
https://www.instagram.com/odgeist/?hl=en

[chronovore]

Meant to put this up ages ago; I think it predated Disney purchasing Lucasfilm, so I find the LucasArts logo doubly ironic now.



PS: This counts as real Sheeveposting, Atra.

[chronovore]

This thread makes me feel like this:

[Valkyrie]

https://www.instagram.com/odgeist/?hl=en

lol, you're following someone I know IRL. Crazy world.

[chronovore]

Goofy sketch I did for inktober.

[toku]

"goofy" wtf dude you're talented

[chronovore]

"goofy" wtf dude you're talented

D'aw, thanks! 

I need to draw more. A friend of mine who is a more compulsive and productive artist than I am once "complimented" me on the zero fucks I give about perspective. I actually try to get the perspective correct — I'm just not obsessed about it.

[Bebpo]

Yeah, that's quite good!

[BlueTsunami]

Over a year now I've been playing with a pixel art filter (8bit Photo Lab) and my photography.
Its allowed me to go over the top with the vibe in these scenes versus the moody realism and clarity with my photography

[shosta]

Love that street corner

[toku]

all of these are killer blue,

[EVOL]

Can I post my shitty music here? Cause I'm going to.

https://soundcloud.com/kkamaguicrow/ruins

The album art which took me literally 5 minutes to 'paint' is also done by my hand, so I think it counts 

[BlueTsunami]

Can I post my shitty music here? Cause I'm going to.

https://soundcloud.com/kkamaguicrow/ruins

The album art which took me literally 5 minutes to 'paint' is also done by my hand, so I think it counts 

I dig it. The melodic melancholic vibe is on point. The vocals (and sampling?) give it just the right amount of humanity. Similar jams tend to lost that aspect and just wallow in the cold.

[chronovore]

Can I post my shitty music here? Cause I'm going to.

https://soundcloud.com/kkamaguicrow/ruins

The album art which took me literally 5 minutes to 'paint' is also done by my hand, so I think it counts 

I like your voice and your lyrics also your cover art.

[EVOL]

I dig it. The melodic melancholic vibe is on point. The vocals (and sampling?) give it just the right amount of humanity. Similar jams tend to lost that aspect and just wallow in the cold.

Thanks man, I just used samples from a Youtube clip of an old folk recording. Was my first time using samples, I'm happy it turned out well

I like your voice and your lyrics also your cover art.

Thanks, but how the hell do you know what I'm singing? I've seen through your lies 

[chronovore]

I dig it. The melodic melancholic vibe is on point. The vocals (and sampling?) give it just the right amount of humanity. Similar jams tend to lost that aspect and just wallow in the cold.

Thanks man, I just used samples from a Youtube clip of an old folk recording. Was my first time using samples, I'm happy it turned out well

I like your voice and your lyrics also your cover art.

Thanks, but how the hell do you know what I'm singing? I've seen through your lies 

I used the quote tags because is was quoting the topmost comment from the linked SoundCloud. I /do/ like the music though, to be clear!

[shosta]

Hey Dufus, can we see more of your art?
 

[agrajag]

I'd post a doodle I drew today, but that ish is straight up embarassing

[shosta]

Hey jagged-vaj, if you actually stick with learning to draw, I'll do it, too. Mutual noob encouragement.

[shosta]

I read Trent Reznor say in an interview that he keeps a tape recorder on him at all times to record ideas. I thought that was smart but also kind of funny sounding; imagine pulling out your recorder in a restaurant or something and spitting out some mad beats.

[Atramental]

-Try and draw from life as often as possible. And draw lightly/loosely initially so you don’t tire yourself out.
-Get a lot of loose leaf paper if you can instead of a sketch book. I find I’m less self conscious about making mistakes with loose leaf since I can just easily chuck it if I don’t like what I’ve made.
-Study the “classical masters” from the 16th and 19th century’s so you get an idea of how they worked with form, perspective, shadow, and light and try and sketch out “studies” of what they’ve done.
-Personally I wouldn’t attempt to get too deep into digital painting/drawing until you’ve become competent enough with physical media. Physical media’s limitations will give you a better understanding of the fundamentals because the mistakes you’ll make will be more permanent/painful.

Also, I took a ton of art classes as a kid and I definitely see the value of having a teacher in order to speed up the learning process. They’ll point out things you’d normally not see or grasp on your own. If you have the money feel free to spend it on some classes but, more importantly, try and sketch/doodle every other day on your own so you at least develop a habit.

I myself used to be a habitual drawer but I fell out of it when I started working at my design job full time. I’d probably be a lot further ahead with my illustration skills if I had drawn every other day for 5 years straight lol.

[Atramental]

I was listening to a podcast recently about 4 different tendencies people have when it comes to completing tasks/goals. After listening to the podcast I went ahead and took an online test of the podcast interviewee's website.



According to the test I'm an "Obliger". I'll kill myself when it comes to my job but for my own personal projects... eh.

Obligers respond readily to outer expectations, but struggle to meet inner expectations. In other words, they work hard not to let other people down, but they often let themselves down.

Obligers may find it difficult to form a habit, because often we undertake habits for our own benefit, and Obligers do things more easily for others than for themselves.

For Obligers, the key to forming habits is to create external accountability.

So I'm thinking... what better way to make myself create more personal art/designs than have people here hold my accountable in some way. 

I need to rediscover what the app or website was but there's something out there you can set up that will take a pre-determined amount of money out of your bank account if you don't meet a certain goal within an allotted amount of time.

Once I find this app, I'm thinking about setting up some sort of "game" in which every week I don't create something I loose $20 and it gets put into some sort of "communal lottery" (if possible) and at the end of the year that money goes to some lucky member or members here. 

(The exact parameters of this "game" may change once I find this app and figure out its capabilities)


Anyways, I need to get back to work but afterwards I'm going to try and get the ball rolling on this thing because I really really really want to get myself back on the "art path" again. 

[Atramental]

 

edit: What did I say that is "pseudo-science bullshit"? 

Also, do you make a living off of your ability to draw? Because I do.

[Atramental]

Oh, speaking of work. Here's a vector refresh of some mascots for a pediatric dental franchise I re-designed recently.

Old:


New:


They look much more friendly and less coke addled now. 

[BisMarckie]

I am happy for the duck that it finally got some sleep

[HardcoreRetro]

I need to rediscover what the app or website was but there's something out there you can set up that will take a pre-determined amount of money out of your bank account if you don't meet a certain goal within an allotted amount of time.

Once I find this app, I'm thinking about setting up some sort of "game" in which every week I don't create something I loose $20 and it gets put into some sort of "communal lottery" (if possible) and at the end of the year that money goes to some lucky member or members here. 

I'll berate you for 20 bucks a week.

[Atramental]

Or maybe I’ll give Dufus the money if I don’t follow through.

That would really motivate me to draw because, personally, I’m not a fan. And seeing him benefit off my failures would miff me to no end. 

[Atramental]

stickk.com seems to be what I'm looking for:


If Dufus agrees to follow through he'll be my "foe" for this challenge.

I might have Chrono (if he's able) or a mod/admin be a referee since that's required as well.

[Atramental]

Also, do you make a living off of your ability to draw? Because I do.

Being good at something and being able to teach the basics of something are two different things, fatboi.

You can see that in the book I mentioned. From what I've seen, Bert Dodson is a decent artist. Nothing particularly mindblowing. But from his writing I can tell he's an absolutely phenomenal teacher. And great teachers are awesome people who can help you learn stuff.

Sure, whatever. But the shit I said is not pseudo-science. Maybe it's not your preferred method of learning how to draw but it's basically how I learned & developed my skills over the years.

[Atramental]

I was referring to that personality nonsense. I don't even see how that's relevant.

If you read the full post you would see that "personality" shit was directed towards myself. Not 213372bu.

[Atramental]

I procrastinate a lot too. Like right now... arguing with you is me procrastinating.   

If I was more worried about losing money because I'm not drawing more so than trying to be "right on the internet" I'd probably be focusing on drawing right now.

[Atramental]

I'll just do this challenge with my brother then.

He can at least kick me in the balls if I don't give him the money. 

[skullstorm]

Yo I can be your foe breh, I want to try findom

[Atramental]

https://instagram.com/p/BmXUc39hqAF/

I sketched a “Freddy Freaker” while high today. 

[EVOL]

Here's a question for art bros here.

I seem to be incapable of drawing clean lines, especially on tablets. Should I just draw shit tons of lines until I get it, or are there more efficient ways/drills to get practice done?

[shosta]

Find the line through many small strokes

[Atramental]

For some software (like photoshop) you can buy plugins that can help you draw smoother lines.

Here was one I was wanting to try but unfortunately it's only available for windows and not mac: https://lazynezumi.com/



And as far as drawing smooth lines with physical pencils and pens... it takes a lot of patience and practice.

I've been drawing for years and it's still torture for me to try and draw smooth lines because my hands are way too jittery.

One solution for this is to just draw lightly and continuously (not lifting the pencil off the paper until I'm done with the line) as possible. An artist friend of mine even suggested to focus on where you want the line to go instead of where it's at currently. Easier said than done but I think there's some truth to it.

[EVOL]

Find the line through many small strokes

I thought you weren't supposed to do that, although it's been years since I've actually read that advice so it might be muddled in my brain

For some software (like photoshop) you can buy plugins that can help you draw smoother lines.

Here was one I was wanting to try but unfortunately it's only available for windows and not mac: https://lazynezumi.com/

(Image removed from quote.)

And as far as drawing smooth lines with physical pencils and pens... it takes a lot of patience and practice.

I've been drawing for years and it's still torture for me to try and draw smooth lines because my hands are way too jittery.

One solution for this is to just draw lightly and continuously (not lifting the pencil off the paper until I'm done with the line) as possible. An artist friend of mine even suggested to focus on where you want the line to go instead of where it's at currently. Easier said than done but I think there's some truth to it.

Yeah, I saw that Nezumi app before, seemed like the bee's knees and Windows only was a kick in the balls.

I'm more interested in physical media anyway, I'll try applying that advice you gave me.

[Atramental]

I'm planning on drawing a more detailed version of this "smug meowth" and then I'm going to vector trace it so I can easily turn it into a sticker or something.

[Himu]

So...

I hate drawing in public with people staring. It happened when I was a kid and it still happens. “You’re so good.” “Wow you can draw!”

I used feel appreciative when I was a kid but ever since I was a teen I just hate it. I learned to tune people out when I draw but the constant praise drives me nuts.

It also sucks because the praise gets to your head.

“You’re so *talented*!” Or whatever. What they don’t know is that I drew every single day in high school for four years. I’ve done a lot for my art. I’ve worked hard to get it to where it is and it still isn’t great imo so people talking about talent drive me nuts. Like I was born like this. Bitch, I drew with child like wonder. I happened to be good or better than other children growing up but it was my dedication and hard work that got me this far.

I hate that there’s this emphasis on talent in the arts to make people feel better that people just were naturally born this way and we didn’t bust our asses to get that far. I think it’s done to make themselves feel better to show that they aren’t good at ______ thing and therefore it’s out of their hands. No need to work hard when you just weren’t born with the ability and “talent”. I know it’s a compliment but it can get to your head because everyone says how talented you are so when you hit a massive block you might think,”maybe I’m not talented after all” and give up EVERYTHING like I did for most of my 20’s, when it was hard work that got me there in the first place.

Pisses me off so much.

I get this all the time because I like taking my sketch book everywhere and do observational sketches. I’ll probably have to kill myself when I start doing plein air.

[BlueTsunami]

So I rarely do conceptual photography but I felt compelled to do this one after creating this poem


Bloodletting
The act of tapping into ones veins
And releasing their lifeblood
along with any disease
This act of writing I've been
Indulging in
Is not unlike this
I pierce my thoughts
Tap into my emotions
Channel it through this device
It drips from my phone
To yours
But
You consume it
Like a vampire
And that's ok
I like vampires

[Himu]

I want to learn more about 2 things in particular, and none of the resources I have cover it much:

1) Line art, or more specifically, controlling weight and being able to manage it across the whole drawing. Whenever I transition into using ink or digital art, I am a mess at properly inking and it has ruined the last few attempts at a complete drawing that I've had. I can get a somewhat passable lineart in pencil, or at least one that conveys what I want, but I can't transition it to weighted inks, marker brushes, or digital ink pens.

2)Shading. Right now my experience with shading is very amateurish and basic, using darker colors slightly more left of the color scale to lighter colors that skew right. Transition into a highlight, paint and blend, and add dark colors where light cascades off. I know that there are ways to improve this, and vaguely know of a few tips myself, but I'm looking to see if there is a resource that covers it more extensively.

Here’s your homework:

Keep a sketchbook and only draw with pen. When I was middle school I threw my pencils away for the most part and I switched to ball point pens. Doing this has made me adapt at lineart. Stick with it for a few months-years and you’ll be good at it. Pen is great for this because with pen you can’t erase and have to commit to each stroke. It’s also more bold and darker than pencil which more control. It will also improve your shading because better control = better shading. Your shading complaint is vague and I don’t know what you mean. I don’t know if you’re talking about technique or placement.

For pen suggestions I suggest something cheap and Japanese like a Sakura Micron.

Although digital, here is a sample of my line art.



Pen is queen. Fuck pencils for the most part unless you’re painting traditional (watercolor, oil)

[Himu]

Switching to pen is often a professional suggestion. I was lucky to have a rival who used pens which made me switch too when I was young so I learned that lesson early.

http://www.colourcow.com/ballpoint-pen-drawing/

This link suggests cheap Bic’s but when I was learning my preferred tool was this.

https://www.amazon.com/Pilot-Retractable-Premium-Roller-Dozen/dp/B001GAOTSW/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1543322953&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=pilot+g-2&dpPl=1&dpID=51HtB3Lm6ML&ref=plSrch#

Pen is also more versatile. It doesn’t have to be ballpoint.

Here’s brush pens. They’re like calligraphy brushes in a pen. They’re amaze.

https://www.amazon.com/Tombow-62038-Fudenosuke-Calligraphy-Drawings/dp/B01M71S9DU/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1543323055&sr=8-1-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=brush+pen&psc=1

[Himu]

Bluetsu what did you put on that phone to do that

[BlueTsunami]

Bluetsu what did you put on that phone to do that

Oh theres an image on the phone of a blood trail, the blood on my arm is good quality theatrical blood. I connected them by just cloning the tail end of the image of my phone over the phones bezel.

[Himu]

Crazy. I thought it was on the back of the phone.

[skullstorm]

I wish I had more energy to draw No time, no energy, no inspiration, there's always something. The last time I made an effort I sketched a bunch of people indicted by Mueller since I wanted to draw baddies And that was months ago 

[Himu]

I wish I had more energy to draw No time, no energy, no inspiration, there's always something. The last time I made an effort I sketched a bunch of people indicted by Mueller since I wanted to draw baddies And that was months ago 

Try just drawing anything. The more you draw the more you understand its form. Just draw what's in front of you right now. Go to a coffee shop and draw the people. Draw gestures of them, like 20 second sketches just to get the pose and 2 minute gesture drawings. Draw everything and you'll never run out of ideas.



As the master Glenn Vilppu says,"Da Vinci said to get inspiration by just going out and drawing people live life." It really works.

It also helps to set a minimum. Tell yourself you're going to draw 30 minutes to an hour a day no matter what. Make it a habit and you'll always have to meet that minimum and you'll be drawing again faster than you know it.

[skullstorm]

I want to but I'm such a loser that I can't even pick up the pen, I don't know why it's so hard for me now. Although I can't really seem to get anything done these days, I'm in a slump. It'd be nice to be interested in something again.

While playing rdr2 I feel jealous when looking at Arthur's journal full of nice drawings of basically everything, why can't I be arsed to do that 

Shit, I'll try and sketch something right now. My own foot or something, whatever