Game

[Phoenix Dark]

eh, we'll see whether this just means more shit items drop, or whether you're actually getting drops that can help you progress

[Himu]

Yes! No more INVULNERABLE MINIONS HOARD ARCANE FIRE CHAIN!!

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[Human Snorenado]

Fair or not, the viewpoint of the AH as a blizzard cash cow is always going to persist until useful items drop more frequently or can be more reliably crafted.  The increased dps on ilv 61+62 weapons is a good first step, but I'd really, really like to see more info on tightening up the rng nature of loot drops or maybe something along the lines of burning gems to guarantee items get attributes in crafting.  If I could feed the blacksmith a high level topaz to guarantee +150 or whatever INT on a wand that would be dope. 

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm more concerned with armor; seems like you can get through a lot of the game slowly improving your dps and do fine, whereas each act heavily increases the armor/defense requirements.

I'd be fine with nearly every elite/champion ability being left in if gear dropped that allowed me to deal with that shit. Obviously if I'm standing in bad shit, I should die. But getting pummeled by regular damage just to force me to use the AH is stupid design.

[Human Snorenado]

I'm more concerned with armor; seems like you can get through a lot of the game slowly improving your dps and do fine, whereas each act heavily increases the armor/defense requirements.

I'd be fine with nearly every elite/champion ability being left in if gear dropped that allowed me to deal with that shit. Obviously if I'm standing in bad shit, I should die. But getting pummeled by regular damage just to force me to use the AH is stupid design.

Melee classes

[Brehvolution]

Since the update, I play til the game crashes. It crashes during cut scenes. I started a new game and am happy with the loot changes.

[naff]

New patch out? Damn, I'm working late (from home) MUST... NOT... PLAY  :'(

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Since the update, I play til the game crashes. It crashes during cut scenes. I started a new game and am happy with the loot changes.

What's your class (inc gender) and which cutscene?

[demi]

New patch out? Damn, I'm working late (from home) MUST... NOT... PLAY  :'(

I just started the game and didn't get any update.

[pilonv1]

sup item duping

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6308701734

They're removing their gear so the profiles don't show them.

Luckily someone screencapped them

[Brehvolution]

Since the update, I play til the game crashes. It crashes during cut scenes. I started a new game and am happy with the loot changes.

What's your class (inc gender) and which cutscene?

Male Monk

1st time it crashed was after I found Cain in act 1. 2nd time was right after I killed the skeleton king and was using the portal to head back to town. 3rd time was in act 2 but I can't remember the specific part.

The game just goes to a black screen. Sound still goes for a little bit then stops. It locks up my whole computer. I can't alt-tab out and ctrl-alt-del does nothing. Have to hit the reset button on my comp..

[Human Snorenado]

Another sign of good things to come (1.0.4 is supposed to hit the 4th week of August)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6923457/104_Legendary_Item_Improvements-8_14_2012

Even a video this time around!



Looks awesome; Legendary stats are all increased and each item seems more singular and cool now.  Glad I have a set of MF gear to farm Act 1 with

In my opinion tho, the most gratifying part of his entry was a point blank admission that "yeah, we fucked this part of the game up and now we're addressing it"

[Phoenix Dark]

particle effects on legendaries, clearly this changes EVERYTHING

eh. I'll reinstalled when the patch hits, but I can't help but feel super pessimistic

[Human Snorenado]

particle effects on legendaries, clearly this changes EVERYTHING

eh. I'll reinstalled when the patch hits, but I can't help but feel super pessimistic

clearly you just watched the video and didn't read the long blog about how they've been buffed and had cool new stats and abilities added

[Phoenix Dark]

Ok just read the article, I like that yo 

[pilonv1]

Looks awesome; Legendary stats are all increased and each item seems more singular and cool now.  Glad I have a set of MF gear to farm Act 1 with

What if they nerf magic find?

Sounds awesome though

[Human Snorenado]

Looks awesome; Legendary stats are all increased and each item seems more singular and cool now.  Glad I have a set of MF gear to farm Act 1 with

What if they nerf magic find?

Sounds awesome though

With the MF gear I have now, I don't have to toss it on in Act 1 right before something dies; my stats are good enough that I can still make it through the act in single player just fine with over 200% MF before NV buff.  They're not going to nerf MF like that, just people who toss stuff on right before something dies.

[archie4208]

Holy crap, I'm actually excited.  Not particularly because of the Legendary upgrades, but because Blizzard is actually addressing the game's problems.  Now they just need to fix the godawful drop rates, somehow give the illusion of progress when you hit the level cap and add endgame content and I'll be pretty happy.

[Human Snorenado]

Holy crap, I'm actually excited.  Not particularly because of the Legendary upgrades, but because Blizzard is actually addressing the game's problems.  Now they just need to fix the godawful drop rates, somehow give the illusion of progress when you hit the level cap and add endgame content and I'll be pretty happy.

They've kinda addressed drop rates in the systems preview blog.  ilv 61+62 weapons can now roll damage up to level 63 items, 2-handers have access to newer, more powerful affixes to offset the loss of an off-hand item, and normal monsters are more likely to drop magic/rare items by a factor of four.

[Brehvolution]

Holy crap, I'm actually excited.  Not particularly because of the Legendary upgrades, but because Blizzard is actually addressing the game's problems.  Now they just need to fix the godawful drop rates, somehow give the illusion of progress when you hit the level cap and add endgame content and I'll be pretty happy.

They've kinda addressed drop rates in the systems preview blog.  ilv 61+62 weapons can now roll damage up to level 63 items, 2-handers have access to newer, more powerful affixes to offset the loss of an off-hand item, and normal monsters are more likely to drop magic/rare items by a factor of four.

I noticed this quite a bit when I started a new game the other day. I got a real nice rare axe about a half hour into the game that I used for most of act 1. Prior to that patch, I didn't start seeing rare items until after the skeleton king.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Holy crap, I'm actually excited.  Not particularly because of the Legendary upgrades, but because Blizzard is actually addressing the game's problems.  Now they just need to fix the godawful drop rates, somehow give the illusion of progress when you hit the level cap and add endgame content and I'll be pretty happy.

They've kinda addressed drop rates in the systems preview blog.  ilv 61+62 weapons can now roll damage up to level 63 items, 2-handers have access to newer, more powerful affixes to offset the loss of an off-hand item, and normal monsters are more likely to drop magic/rare items by a factor of four.

I noticed this quite a bit when I started a new game the other day. I got a real nice rare axe about a half hour into the game that I used for most of act 1. Prior to that patch, I didn't start seeing rare items until after the skeleton king.

The changes aren't live yet. 1.0.4 will make everyone happy.

[Human Snorenado]

Holy crap, I'm actually excited.  Not particularly because of the Legendary upgrades, but because Blizzard is actually addressing the game's problems.  Now they just need to fix the godawful drop rates, somehow give the illusion of progress when you hit the level cap and add endgame content and I'll be pretty happy.

They've kinda addressed drop rates in the systems preview blog.  ilv 61+62 weapons can now roll damage up to level 63 items, 2-handers have access to newer, more powerful affixes to offset the loss of an off-hand item, and normal monsters are more likely to drop magic/rare items by a factor of four.

I noticed this quite a bit when I started a new game the other day. I got a real nice rare axe about a half hour into the game that I used for most of act 1. Prior to that patch, I didn't start seeing rare items until after the skeleton king.

These effects haven't been patched into the game yet... patch 1.0.4 won't be released until the last week of August at the earliest, so whatever you're experiencing now is just more randomness.  Also, don't know if you're on Inferno yet or not, but pretty much everything discussed is in relation to Inferno.

[Human Snorenado]

The hits keep on coming: 1.0.4 Barb preview

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6923460/Patch_104_Preview_Barbarian-8_15_2012

Anything interesting here PD? I kind of got my barb to inferno and gave up on him.

[Brehvolution]

I hadn't played since before 1.0.3 even dropped. Can't wait til 1.0.4.

[Phoenix Dark]

I like the idea of adding more build diversity. Right now I'm kind of baffled by people posting their profiles/bragging about builds when it seems like most people are using the same handful of builds. And I still wish you could get attribute points or something to add more diversity

Like in my case, I always used Frenzy because it was clearly the best primary attack; it's like your bread and butter.

In general though I'm weird with damage. I like tanking/damage sponges so much I often don't pay attention to dps in games like this. I'd imagine most people like doing as much dps as possible

[pilonv1]

I can't imagine not using Frenzy still, even with the increases to Cleave and Bash I can't see myself using them. Bash is just too slow.

I like that they're buffing Hammer of the Ancients, which I used up until Inferno.

[Human Snorenado]

Take note, fellow members of House Gryffinbore!  Wizard notes are up.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6939564/Patch_104_Preview_Wizard-8_15_2012

tl;dr highlights:
-every hydra rune except venom hydra is getting buffed.  I think this will make a Temporal Flux Arcane wiz build more viable, since Arcane Hydra will do just about 15-20% less than Venom Hydra now, which combined with 30% slow on hydra, magic missile and arcane orb hits equals awesomesauce.
-energy twister is getting nerfed, will proc half as often
-lesser used runes/skills are getting buffed, including meteor and arcane torrent

I never bothered to try the Wicked Wind wizard build, so energy twister getting nerfed doesn't bother me at all.  Like I said, I'm excited about trying out a Temporal Flux arcane build with Missile/Orb/Hydra.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

man, a lotta butthurt WW Wizards in that thread

[Human Snorenado]

man, a lotta butthurt WW Wizards in that thread

I'm confused, I thought no one played this game because it was terrible? 

Seriously, tho- if you've invested a lot of money into high crit chance/dmg, the good news is that you can still totally play the game, just not as a semi-invincible cheeseball demigod.  In other words,  :stfu

[Human Snorenado]

I'm going to preface this by saying that I have spent by FAR most of my time in D3 playing as a wizard.  It's just what I enjoy.

But JESUS, these people.  They act like wizards have been shat upon from the beginning, because game sodomizing exploits (early force armor, CM) were knocked back.  And now WW will proc half as often, and it's like Hitler is lining up their mothers for a bunch of surprise sex or something and forcing them to watch.  I have probably one of the highest crit chances of someone who hasn't sunk tens of millions of gold or hundreds of dollars into it (40%+) and I'm not whining, because you can still totally play the game as a high crit wizard without using energy twister.  You just can't walk up to whatever, toss out a couple of tornadoes, spam diamond skin repeatedly anymore.  Bunch of fucking whiners.  Wizards have had a pretty easy time of it in D3 in my opinion- there are multiple different viable playstyles and builds.  YES, pretty much all of them involve venom hydra, but that's just because he's the actual star of the game.  Seriously.  If there's ever a D3 movie, it will start Vinnie the Venom Hydra, and his lovable yet squishy Wizard minder.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Can't wait until Witch Doctors changes are announced

[Great Rumbler]

It is amazing how people had a total fucking amnesia on Diablo 2.

Apparently Blizzard did too!

[Human Snorenado]

Monk previews:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6939559/Patch_104_Preview_Monk-8_16_2012

Not a lot of info.  Making spirit consuming damage skills better.  Not fucking with one with everything. 

[BobFromPikeCreek]

This could be the game changer patch the game needs. Drop rates need to be reworked I think, but this is a huge leap in the right direction. Glad they're listening. Gonna jump back into the game after the patch.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

WWWizards are whinging up the Monk thread, too. lol

[archie4208]

Where is the fucking WD preview? 

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Where is the fucking WD preview? 

Save the best for last

[Momo]

So. After all this shit, did they ever talk Diablo 3 console again?

[Cerveza mas fina]

So should I install again?

[Howard Alan Treesong]

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6923459/Patch_104_Preview_Witch_Doctor-8_16_2012

[Joe Molotov]

My favorite is the Chipmunks version.

[Cerveza mas fina]

My only char is a level 54 Witch Doctor 

Shit looks legit.

[Human Snorenado]

HERP A DERP

Oh the fucking whining in this thread, and the dude just owning all the fucktards

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6352685335

[Human Snorenado]

Also, obviously take this with a grain of salt:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6368307048

LoE for Legendaries.  Every 500 Champ/Elites you kill GUARANTEES a legendary drop, which is Bind on Equip.  I've killed 6k+ with my wizard.  I don't believe this is true but obviously would be awesome if so.

[archie4208]

Holy shit they're actually fixing the game. 

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Yeah, this patch is definitely going to pull me back in.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Holy shit they're actually fixing the game. 

What is ... the Paragon Level? And ... I wouldn't put too much faith in Levels of Excellence. Paragon Levels are the most excellent levels of all.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

looking more -- apparently "Levels of Excellence" is reverse translated back from the Portuguese for "Paragon Levels." nothing to see here, move along

[pilonv1]

Going away this week, hope the patch isn't till the end of the month

[Human Snorenado]

Still nothing about improving crafting. 

I'm guessing that probably got bumped to 1.1 or the first expansion when the Mystic probably gets put back in the game.

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/yewoz/possible_mf_leak/
MF changes, plus some legendaries now bind on equip, plus your 5000th elite kill guarantees a legendary drop. Basically like WoW's token system 

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Lies, damned lies, and forum posts.

[etiolate]

you guys got drama coming

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/interview-diablo-creator-david-brevik-discusses-his-feelings-on-diablo-3
http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3-developers-react-angrily-to-dave-brevik-interview

oh geeze, i guess this drama crashed their website

Here's the interview copy pasta:

IncGamers: You are very well known in the world of ARPGs, and I am going to ask you, Diablo 3 is probably the most anticipated PC title in 10 years. What’s your opinion on the final product?

David Brevik: Honestly, I think that they did a lot of the things the best they could, it was a very different game than I would have created, the team and personalities, the people, the talent and all the design philosophies of the people that worked on it in Irvine, we called them Blizzard South, those people have their own style and the their own way they like to design. It was very, very different from the Blizzard North.

So I think that when Blizzard South took over the development of Diablo 3 it was inevitable that they were going to create an experience that was in the Diablo theme but concentrated more towards the things that they liked to experience. Including more story and things like that.

When Blizzard North shut down they lost a ton of experience with why the Action RPG works and what about it works. That’s really difficult to recover from. They didn’t have the experience of people that knew it well. This is why you do things with random levels for example, and so when you lose that experience you are going to create a very different experience in the end than we would have created.

IncGamers: Do you think they bought the wrong people in? As we understand, Jay Wilson, for example, his background was RTS. From our point of view it looked like they misunderstood what kept people playing, The type of loot drops, which has been a big issues. One of the other issues is they have not listened to their community, and they have not anlaysed what makes up that addictive Diablo  experience. What are your thoughts on that?

David Brevik: Well, the loot system. They made some decisions with the loot system that were very different than the way that we did it in Diablo 2 and I think that obviously the community has been upset with some of the decisions they made. Having all of your powers work off your main weapon and things like that, to having blues that are more powerful than yellows. Eventually the auction house and how that worked, even something as simple as when you equip an item and it’s bound to your character permanently would  have totally changed the dynamic  of the game.

It seems odd that they have not really responded in a quick fashion to some of these things. I think they are very well aware of the problems at this point and are trying to fix some of this stuff. It’s a shame that they had to learn some of these painful lessons

IncGamers:  As you created Diablo, how do you feel about it? Do you feel a little let down that the legacy has kind of been mashed up?

David Brevik:  I have very mixed emotions about it (laughs). On one hand I am sad that people haven’t enjoyed Diablo because it’s a love, a passion, and its obvious people still have a giant love and passion for Diablo and they are speaking out about it because they have such love for it. That makes me feel great.

I am sad because people are outraged and, you know, some of the decision they have made are not the decisions I would make and there have been changes in philosophy and that hasn’t gone over very well. I think in that way I am a little sad.

I am also a little happy, which I hate to say, it shows that the people that were involved in Diablo really did matter, and so I am happy that it has come to light that how talented that group was and how unique and special that group was. I am hoping that, as this happens very often in the industry, you see it with Call of Duty and things like that ,  when the people leave the game changes and it shows how critical people are in this industry.

IncGamers:   One of the questions the Gazillion guys asked me to ask you was, where did the name Diablo come from?

David Brevik:  I thought of the game when I was in high school and I lived in the east part of San Francisco in a town called Danville and I loved at the base of Mount Diablo and that’s where the name comes from. Once I found out what the mountain name was, I thought that was awesome, I didn’t speak Spanish, so I thought I wanted to use that as a title for a nemesis in a videogame. It’s simply from where I lived.

 IncGamers:    Well thanks a lot David, you’ve brought a lot of pleasure to millions of people over the years and hopefully you’ll continue to do so.

And then the followup drama

[Phoenix Dark]

Ah the old 50 Cent "I sold more than you so I win" argument. Bleh

There's no question the people who worked on D3 put their heart and soul into it. It wasn't a game that was thrown together or rushed to meet deadline, and therefore deserves respect in the way it is critiqued. Personally I no longer play it but I did spend 70 plus hours on it - and liked most of that time. The problems I have can be patched, and are being addressed.

That being said, I think his comments are fair but it's not hard to see why the guys in the trenches would be upset. He doesn't trash the game, just gives his opinion. I think it's fair to say Blizzard has had issues with team transitions - does anyone think WoW is better now than it was a few years ago? In terms of SC2, it's slowly being turned into C&C in part due to being designed by the C&C guy instead of the original developers; overall I really like the game and spend hours watching and playing but I'm concerned about its future.

[Human Snorenado]

The funny thing is that almost all of my complaints in design choices with D3 have to do with it aping mmorpgs- cooldowns, enrage timers, a gajillion affixes for items, shit like that.  So hearing that Jay Wilson's background is in RTS games of all things is weird to me.

As for this "controversy" I don't give a shit at all.  I am absolutely NOT someone who deifies game developers.  They made a fucking game, they didn't suck your dick.  Get over yourselves, people.  There are some indisputable truths in all of this- yes, it certainly FEELS like D3 community managers/devs don't listen to the community, but then again when your community is a bunch of self-important fucktards I can't blame them to an extent.  Other truths: Hellgate London did in fact suck, and just because your game is the fastest selling pc game of all time doesn't mean there isn't room for improvement. 

It's funny, Jay Wilson's blog for magic find and other shit is probably going to go live on the D3 site later today.  Perfect timing for this stupidity.

Oh, also etoilet, GW2 is going to fail hard, and it's combat sucks.  Now go scurry off.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

I don't understand the freak out. "It was made by different people and was a different game than I would've made" is a pretty inoffensive thing to say.

[Phoenix Dark]

There are cool downs in rts as well, and overall I'm sure some WoW folks worked on it. The comparisons have been blatant since it was revealed. Id imagine they wanted to appeal to that fan base while still being a Diablo game

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Introducing the Paragon System

- 100 more levels post-60
- Takes "as long as hitting L99 in Diablo II"
- Core stats + 3% MF/GF per level, to a maximum of 300% MF/GF
- MF/GF now capped at 300%
- NV now gives 15% XP bonus as well
- New character portraits every 10 levels

[Human Snorenado]

Introducing the Paragon System

- 100 more levels post-60
- Takes "as long as hitting L99 in Diablo II"
- Core stats + 3% MF/GF per level, to a maximum of 300% MF/GF
- MF/GF now capped at 300%
- NV now gives 15% XP bonus as well
- New character portraits every 10 levels

 

 

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Auction House Improvements

- Can cancel auctions with no bids
- Can search for up to 6 stats
- Can search for values over 999
- Can search for stats on Legendaries