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[Human Snorenado]

Story mode

 

I'll play the Necro when it comes out- likely by the end of the year, I'm guessing. I sort of fell off around season 8 and haven't been able to get excited since.

[toku]

i thought the expansion story was solid but im also an edgelord so

[Valkyrie]

i thought the expansion story was solid but im also an edgelord so

RoS story was better than the base story, imo. I'm very into lore and character connections, so playing playing through is exciting, and a good nostalgia trip.

[Human Snorenado]

I mean the expansion story was ok (the vanilla D3 story was decidedly not) but after going through it once why bother again? Hundreds of hours ago, I turned off all the voice acting. It wears on you.

[Valkyrie]

I'M OUT OF MANA

I NEED MANA

NOT ENOUGH MANA

[toku]

fem wizard and fem dh are waifu why would i turn that off

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rip og fem dh voice

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[Valkyrie]

Glad to see you have good D3 waifu taste!

D2 is in SGDQ 2017 btw. https://gamesdonequick.com/submission/games-list

[Stoney Mason]

Thx for the answers.

I think they kind of do a really poor job of explaining all this stuff to newcomers. But then I guess in numbers I'm in the deep minority as new player versus the people who have been playing for years.

[Valkyrie]

On the bright side, D3 has few features which makes it a lot easier to get into and understand. It's very casual friendly, even if you wanna go semi-high in GRs. Of course you need a little commitment for the high stuff, but it's easy to reach personal goals you feel satisfied with. Very doabloe in the right groups as well, especially gear and mat farming.

[Stoney Mason]

Finished the campaign.

That was kinda terrible. For a few different reasons. I played in Season mode. But I played the campaign still and not adventure mode.

So maybe season mode throws the leveling out of whack or something. But I played on the highest difficulty that was available to me which was expert and the game is dumb easy. Once you hit Act 5 you are allowed to up the difficulty and I did to master which still wasn't hard and then torment 1 which feels roughly like normal in just about any other game.

I know the game at this stage in its life isn't really geared towards newbies playing the campaign and it's all about running the season mode stuff but its still weird me that you would let your campaign fall into the state it has either because of power creep I assume or just sort of poor design in a lot of ways.

Whatever...

I'm doing the actual season stuff now which seems more difficult and more fun than the campaign was. 

[toku]

the popular path rn iirc, is adventure mode expert until you get some okayish gear (lv6-10) then you bump to expert and jump around a bit based on your gear

but yes diablo 3 is just not "difficult" until you hit like torment 4-6 where you're running into multiple elite packs with multiple random abilities and they can all nuke if they scratch you. Endgame is all crowd control and damage evasion.

bluddshedd is a good source for builds/commentary and stuff if you want more than just a website list:

[Cerveza mas fina]

Finished the campaign.

That was kinda terrible. For a few different reasons. I played in Season mode. But I played the campaign still and not adventure mode.

So maybe season mode throws the leveling out of whack or something. But I played on the highest difficulty that was available to me which was expert and the game is dumb easy. Once you hit Act 5 you are allowed to up the difficulty and I did to master which still wasn't hard and then torment 1 which feels roughly like normal in just about any other game.

I know the game at this stage in its life isn't really geared towards newbies playing the campaign and it's all about running the season mode stuff but its still weird me that you would let your campaign fall into the state it has either because of power creep I assume or just sort of poor design in a lot of ways.

Whatever...

I'm doing the actual season stuff now which seems more difficult and more fun than the campaign was.

Campaign was shit from launch, one of the biggest disappointments about this game imho. D1 was a scary challenge playing the campaign, this is a snoozefest. Even on hardcore.

[Human Snorenado]

Campaign is a thing to be endured, preferably only once.

Unless they've changed the difficulties and xp rewards, do adventure mode on hard to start, skip expert to master once you're better geared but still able to kill QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY (taking time to kill shit on scrub levels out of some misplaced notion of I'VE GOT SKILLZ is dumb), then once you've got the first two pieces of your season reward set (I assume you're playing in a season, but they might not be available on consoles yet) up it to Torment I-II depending on what you're able to handle.

Grind. Grind some more. Grind a whole lot more. Grind, grind, grind. If grinding rifts and greater rifts for incremental upgrades is not appealing to you, this is not the game for you. I really can't stress that enough.

[Stoney Mason]

I'm fine with the grinding. I'm fine that the focus is more on season mode stuff especially at this late date in the game. I'm fine with the game.

It just kind of shocked me how unbalanced the campaign was. Just as a point of dev pride, you would think they would want to fix that for the people who honestly have no interest in grinding and just want to play a challenging campaign without having to beat it first and then magically find an acceptable difficulty rate.

[Positive Touch]

i replayed the campaign in late 2015 on ps4 and was also pissed at how long it took to get to a real challenge. no reason you shouldn't be able to switch to a torment difficulty from the start, but more than that there's no reason the main game should be so bindingly easy. there was no reason to bother with loot or upgrading or whatever because there was zero strategy involved in playing. I was taking shaka thru and had to keep telling him "trust me, it gets so much better."

[toku]

iirc the way campaign used to work is you'd be done at around 40 something from then on it would just be a loot grind to get to 60 but also get 60 gear. From there you'd dive into torment stuff.

basically no matter what era you jumped in on D3 the game didn't get "hard" or "challenging" until you well well into the game. Like 8+ hours in.

[Stoney Mason]

iirc the way campaign used to work is you'd be done at around 40 something

That sounds about right. I remember finishing it originally in the 40's.

[Human Snorenado]

iirc the way campaign used to work is you'd be done at around 40 something from then on it would just be a loot grind to get to 60 but also get 60 gear. From there you'd dive into torment stuff.

basically no matter what era you jumped in on D3 the game didn't get "hard" or "challenging" until you well well into the game. Like 8+ hours in.

Pretty much this. You used to have to play through the same content on multiple different difficulties just to get to the "end game" of Inferno.  Which is shitty, regressive game design in 2017, and arguably 2012 when it released.

Diablo hasn't really been "about" the main campaign since the first game, IMO. D2 had a better story, sure, but it was all about boss runs and ladders. D3 is about seasons.

I haven't really played much in the past six months or so. I'll buy the necro pack when it releases and play that season as a necromancer.

[toku]

I still haven't finished a crusader. I just only like the range characters in this, particularly DH and Wizard. I've got like 4 of each meanwhile every other class sits at 40-50 lvl range.

[Stoney Mason]

Got the first set of free Gear set for the season. No doubt this mode is very fun. And its fun to become insanely powerful while the difficulty level still increases.

This honestly also makes me want to play Path of Exile since I know that game also does this kind of thing and is still in development.

[Valkyrie]

I still haven't finished a crusader. I just only like the range characters in this, particularly DH and Wizard. I've got like 4 of each meanwhile every other class sits at 40-50 lvl range.

Same, and I actually found Crus to be boring. Also I never played a WD, despite sticking around on and off since vanilla (which reminds me, anyone remember when no one wanted to have WDs in their party at the start because of all the animation spam?)

[Brehvolution]

Did something important happen in the past 2 days?  While monitoring the firewall logs today at work, I noticed someone had played for almost 3 hours straight yesterday.   

[Human Snorenado]

Did something important happen in the past 2 days?  While monitoring the firewall logs today at work, I noticed someone had played for almost 3 hours straight yesterday.   

Lots of Necromancer beta keys have gone out recently, probably that.

[Cerveza mas fina]

guess no one here got lucky either

[Valkyrie]

guess no one here got lucky either

Been playing D3 since launch, Blizz account is almost 10 years old, I know none of this matters to the beta key drafts, but it makes it suck even more. :<

[Stoney Mason]

Got up to GR 70 with my demon hunter.

Game is super fun in season mode. I'll probably come back every season to try a different class.

Like I said earlier, also makes me want to try Path of Exile.

[Valkyrie]

Oh, right. The newest Necro Q&A. What a snoozefest. http://www.diablofans.com/news/48897-necromancer-q-a-live-updates

I'd be more excited if they hadn't already tried to replace it with the WD. But I'll still buy it, and hope it'll be a fun class for me.

[toku]

started a monk, go to level 20 and started another wizard 

[Rufus]

Did you at least get far enough with the Monk to drop giant bells on people?

[Freyj]

Oh, right. The newest Necro Q&A. What a snoozefest. http://www.diablofans.com/news/48897-necromancer-q-a-live-updates

I'd be more excited if they hadn't already tried to replace it with the WD. But I'll still buy it, and hope it'll be a fun class for me.

I'd be more excited if it were part of an expansion, but I guess they are regularly adding new zones and rifts and what not so I should probably just check those out.

[toku]

[Valkyrie]

I'm still salty I never got a Necro beta invite. Been playing this shitty game on and off since launch, my account is like 10 years old, and yet they just sent random invites + to their ~favorite people~.

Either way, it looks cool. Haven't paid a lot of attention since the beta started before people figured out how the class worked. Definitely OP, and will probably be nerfed into another underwhelming class (sup Crusader).

I'll buy it anyway. Need em stash slots. lol

[seagrams hotsauce]

fwiw I was in the friends and family beta for DIII and never got shit either

[Human Snorenado]

I was never in the vanilla or RoS beta. I did get into the Hearthstone beta, weirdly enough. I've also got... 3,000ish hours put into D3 over the past 5 years.

But honestly, I'm more excited for the new Path of Exile expansion than the Necromancer pack. Which I'll still get, just not gonna be day 1ing that shit.

[Valkyrie]

Path of Exile seems fun, but I've played too much Diablo 3 to enjoy similar games. Bought Grim Dawn recently but it also gave that same feeling.

[toku]

in terms of arpg feel i have a hard time playing the others as well, grim dawn and titan quest being the only ones i got anywhere in before quitting

[toku]

[Brehvolution]

Just hurry up and drop it already blizz, ffs. 

[Human Snorenado]

Looking like sometime in July, around the same time as the new Path of Exile expansion.

[Valkyrie]

It's probably launching simultaneously with Season 11.

Dunno why they try to hype it up so much when it'll either suck at launch, or get nerfed quickly.
Just gonna be like Crus release v2.

[toku]

doesn't seem to be a lot of hype to me, I fully expect to wake up on a patch day with some small announcement like "oh hey yeah necro is out uh go buy that i guess"

but yeah, it's def. launching with season 11 and thats gonna be mid/early July (seasons are like 3 months right? and 10 started end of march so)

well actually they could launch it in that week/2 week gap between seasons so end of June but that might throw off seasonal dudes and thats basically everyone who still plays this game so idk

[toku]

if only literally any other arpg developer had even a quarter of the talent blizzards artists do man jesus christ



  

Also season ends june 23rd with the next one starting a month later on July 20. Yeah, biggest gap between seasons ever so far. Maybe Necro drops in that gap? Who knows.

[Human Snorenado]

I'd say about 95% probability it does- there's a big Path of Exile expansion coming out around the same time.

Blizzard's artists are better, but I really wish they'd give the "huge fucking shoulder pads" thing a rest.

[toku]

Stuff you get for buying Necromancer

Look at more Necro stuff

[Valkyrie]

Fuck, the Trag'oul Wings look pretty cool. I never liked the green 8dungeon Master wings, but these are even cooler and takes almost no effort.

[Human Snorenado]

You gotta play HotS with ANOTHER PERSON tho
 

[Valkyrie]

You gotta play HotS with ANOTHER PERSON tho
 

Nah bro, you mean the Kerrigan Wings? These are different ones that you can earn by completing all the Necro achivements.

[Brehvolution]

If this is more than $20, pass.

[Human Snorenado]

If this is more than $20, pass.

It will be $15-20.

You gotta play HotS with ANOTHER PERSON tho
 

Nah bro, you mean the Kerrigan Wings? These are different ones that you can earn by completing all the Necro achivements.

Ah ok. These I'll bother getting, then.

[seagrams hotsauce]

15$ for one fucking class and two stash tabs? nothing else?

[Valkyrie]

15$ for one fucking class and two stash tabs? nothing else?

Wings, a pet, portrait frame, pennant, 2 character slots. Some banner/sigils that no one cares about .

[seagrams hotsauce]

And no other dungeons or any shit? Phhh mannnn

[Valkyrie]

I don't see why they would add a Necropack only area when they're already releasing two new zones in a patch alongside the Necro release. Wish they had done more though. Like giving a free set with the Necro, something alas Haedrig's Gift.

[seagrams hotsauce]

I guess for 15-20$ I was just hoping for a 'micro' xpac or something where you'd get some quests and shit to unlock the wings, pets etc exclusive to the pack. The zones are basically just new tilesets right?

[Valkyrie]

You get to unlock another set of wings through the Necro achievements (that can be used for all classes), if that counts. I wouldn't expect this shit to cost less than $14.99 tbh. There are WoW pets for like $20. lol

[seagrams hotsauce]

tru indeed. I guess I just expected more when they put out a 9 mission xpac with skins etc for SCII not that long ago, though expecting parity by the Blizzard teams on shit like this is my own fault

[toku]

the problem is theyve been updating the game with new stuff (that viking cube shit, tilesets) quietly last year or two. Just no one knows or cares unless you're a neckbeard doing seasonal shit.

[Positive Touch]

so everything is free except the new class? what about the diablo 1 section?

[Human Snorenado]

so everything is free except the new class? what about the diablo 1 section?

The D1 thing is an annual event that only happens during January, I believe. And yup, it's free.

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It was an "oh this is neat" but not overly exciting thing. I ran through it with a L1 Crusader in like 45 minutes.

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http://diablo.wikia.com/wiki/The_Darkening_of_Tristram

[Positive Touch]

ah man. still sounds neat but oh well.