Author Topic: The Pinball Arcade Platform (Get em before they are gone. License lost) (Read 38452 times)

Stoney Mason · « **on:** March 26, 2012, 02:04:34 PM »

Time for this to get its own thread. Currently out for Ipad and touch and android. Comes to XBLA Wednesday. PS 3 next month. PC, Vita, later.

From the makers of Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection

The awesome thing here is that this going to be a pinball platform via DLC. Like Pinball FX they will put out new tables as DLC but these tables are based on real life tables.

The game launches with these 4 tables.

Black Hole
Gottlieb - 1981

Theater of Magic
Williams - 1995

Tales of the Arabian Nights
Williams - 1996

Ripley's Believe It or Not!
Stern - 2004

Farsight studios have mentioned these tables are upcoming in the future

•Cirqus Voltaire
•Medieval Madness
•Gorgar
•Taxi
•Monster Bash
•Dr. Dude
•Attack From Mars
•The Machine: Bride of Pinbot

Other tables confirmed to be coming:
•Creature from the Black Lagoon
•Space Shuttle
•Big Shot
•Funhouse
•Pinbot

I love it so much on the ipad, I'm double dipping sight unseen on the XBLA version.

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Pinball-Arcade/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8025841121d?cid=majornelson

Bebpo · « **Reply #1 on:** March 26, 2012, 02:20:29 PM »

Actually I think Vita is same day as PS3 (mid-april) because it's a "buy 1 get on both systems" version.

I haven't played it much on my iphone because I don't enjoy playing games on my iphone. But will be double dipping on the PS3 version and playing that. I would have gone for the Steam version but Gabe rejected it from Steam

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #2 on:** March 26, 2012, 04:50:35 PM »

How the fuck did this get rejected from steam

magus · « **Reply #3 on:** March 26, 2012, 04:54:42 PM »

man i really want this to the point i'm actualy willing to buy it,but i can't go online with my 360 and they said the PC version won't be up until may

so angry

since i have a fat model i would need some internet adapter or some shit like that since i guess there's no wi-fi in it even if i wanted to risk getting banned for the sweet pinballs taste right?

Bebpo · « **Reply #4 on:** March 26, 2012, 05:08:18 PM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on March 26, 2012, 04:50:35 PM

How the fuck did this get rejected from steam

Not indie enough to be hip
Not AAA enough to be $$$

The middle guys have it hard with steam.

Alternatively Gabe hates pinball

Positive Touch · « **Reply #5 on:** March 26, 2012, 05:42:58 PM »

FUNHOUSE YEAHHHHHHHHHH

I WILL BUY THIS

demi · « **Reply #6 on:** March 26, 2012, 06:47:31 PM »

Quote from: magus on March 26, 2012, 04:54:42 PM

man i really want this to the point i'm actualy willing to buy it,but i can't go online with my 360 and they said the PC version won't be up until may

so angry

since i have a fat model i would need some internet adapter or some shit like that since i guess there's no wi-fi in it even if i wanted to risk getting banned for the sweet pinballs taste right?

Yes, only Slims have built-in wifi. You need a cord or wireless adapter.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7 on:** March 27, 2012, 06:51:37 PM »

The price for the four launch tables purchased together will be 800 msp for Xbox 360 and $9.99 for PS3/Vita (single purchase for both).

The PS3 and Xbox 360 versions will run in 1080p Full-HD (1920x1080) and the Vita version will run in 960x544.

Akala · « **Reply #8 on:** March 27, 2012, 09:03:28 PM »

ps3/vita combos are so cool. hope it continues.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #9 on:** March 28, 2012, 08:33:51 AM »

Release delayed. Motherfucker

Cravis · « **Reply #10 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:43:24 AM »

What? Man that sucks.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #11 on:** March 28, 2012, 10:47:21 AM »

It's only delayed a week, though, right?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #12 on:** March 29, 2012, 02:09:08 PM »

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on March 28, 2012, 10:47:21 AM

It's only delayed a week, though, right?

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The Xbox 360 version has past certification testing by Microsoft and we can now officially announce that the game will be released for 360 on April 4th.

iconoclast · « **Reply #13 on:** April 04, 2012, 07:10:38 AM »

360 version is out http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Pinball-Arcade/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8025841121d

I tried Arabian Nights once. Did absolutely terrible. I think they changed the physics from The Williams Collection - the nudge doesn't seem to be able to control the ball so easily any more. But I haven't played in a while so I probably just suck right now.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #14 on:** April 04, 2012, 08:42:12 AM »

Bought it this morning. I'll buy all the tables on both ipad and 360 but this is definitely the better version. Very smooth gameplay. Played all 4 tables just to see if there were any performance issues like with Ripleys on the other platforms and it seemed fine to me. Supposedly runs at 1080 and it looks pretty sharp. It could use better textures and more flash in the presentation like Pinball FX does but Farsight is a small company and more importantly I love the feel of the actual pinball. Nice to play on a platform with real buttons. Great sound. They said the first two DLC tables could come next month. They've already been submitted.

magus · « **Reply #15 on:** April 04, 2012, 08:44:27 AM »

does arabian nights feature different wizard goals from the williams collection?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #16 on:** April 04, 2012, 08:55:17 AM »

Never played the Williams collection so I can't comment.

magus · « **Reply #17 on:** April 04, 2012, 09:51:43 AM »

the goals in the william collection were

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Basic Goals
1. Complete a Super Skill shot
2. Collect the Jackpot during Multi-ball
3. Earn a Fireball bonus
4. Capture a ball with a Shooting Star
5. Activate Harem Multi-ball

Wizard Goals
1. Win the Great Camel Race
2. Collect 60 Lamp Spins
3. Collect the Ruby
4. Earn an Extra Ball
5. Rescue the Princess

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #18 on:** April 04, 2012, 09:54:01 AM »

I'll check later this evening.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #19 on:** April 04, 2012, 10:44:06 AM »

They are the same

http://pinballarcadefans.com/showthread.php/130-Wizard-Goal-Unlocks

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #20 on:** April 04, 2012, 10:54:18 AM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #21 on:** April 04, 2012, 06:14:53 PM »

My god I love this. I just spent about 2 hours playing across the tables.

Easily going to be one of my favorites of the year.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #22 on:** April 04, 2012, 06:34:19 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on March 26, 2012, 05:08:18 PM

Quote from: Sho Nuff on March 26, 2012, 04:50:35 PM
How the fuck did this get rejected from steam

Not indie enough to be hip
Not AAA enough to be $$$

The middle guys have it hard with steam.

Alternatively Gabe hates pinball

http://store.steampowered.com/app/201550/?snr=1_4_4__105_1 -- least we're getting this :p

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #23 on:** April 06, 2012, 11:08:39 AM »

Love this version . Put in a good number of hours. Thoughts on the tables.

Theater of Magic

Probably my favorite of the 4. Admittedly because its a pretty easy table. Easy to get multi-balls on and pretty easy to hit all the ramps. Really fun stuff.

Tales of Arabian Nights.

My second favorite table. Not too hard either but I seem to hit the outlanes much more often than TOM and the center area between the flippers, my ball seems to find quite often. I love the lamp score sound when your turn is over and its tallying up the points.

Ripley's Believe it Or Not!
This seems to be the most disliked table from some people. I don't like it as much as the two above but I still like it quite a bit. And how can you not love when that voice says "SUPAH JACKPOT!"

Black Hole
I stink at this table. The space between the flippers in the middle is huge. And that fucking mini-table I blow at.

I'll post my high scores on the tables next time I'm on it.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #24 on:** April 06, 2012, 07:19:58 PM »

I have no idea how to play Ripley's. All my friends' scores are literally 10x my own.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #25 on:** April 06, 2012, 07:45:52 PM »

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The Android update with Medieval Madness and Bride of Pin•Bot added has been released! Medieval Madness is the table of the month and can be played unlimited for free!

Which means the ios and eventually the console versions next month.

I'm so happy about this thing damn thing. I hope they get so many great tables on this thing. And its nice to see a small dev find their niche. Farsight was basically a studio that next gen left behind like a lot of studios. They didn't have the resources and manpower to put out triple A console games. But ios and platforms like XBLA/PSN, etc have saved them and allowed them to find a focus that fits the size of their company.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #26 on:** April 06, 2012, 10:20:24 PM »

The iPad version has also been borked since the last update but since all my playtime has moved over to the Xbox it's kind of moot.

Bebpo · « **Reply #27 on:** April 06, 2012, 11:20:18 PM »

How does it run on X360? Constant 60fps on all tables? I'm guessing the PS3 performance will be similar to the X360 one.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #28 on:** April 06, 2012, 11:53:31 PM »

Runs absolutely fine for me. Better than on the ipad. I can't really remember if its 30 or 60 but I didn't any have issues with it.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #29 on:** April 10, 2012, 03:06:05 PM »

Supposed to come out on PS3 and Vita today at least in America. The Euro version got delayed a month on those platforms.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #30 on:** April 10, 2012, 04:21:29 PM »

I just checked and there is some bad fucking control lag on the Xbox version. It's bad when you're using the triggers instead of the bumpers. LB/RB makes it a little better but it's still got a few extra frames of lag compared to the iOS version.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #31 on:** April 10, 2012, 04:27:13 PM »

I haven't noticed that at all. In fact the ipad version for me has always had occasional bouts of lag which only got worse with the recent update. Not saying its not true. Just saying my experience on the 360 outside of occasional bugs has been nearly perfect. I've probably put in about 10 hours on it and I tend to be a bit hypersensitive to input lag on consoles as I play a lot of shooters.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #32 on:** April 10, 2012, 04:28:59 PM »

Note that I'm super sensitive to this stuff these days (Sonic Generations was literally unplayable for me on 360/PS3). Playing Pinball Arcade on an iPad 2

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #33 on:** April 10, 2012, 04:37:13 PM »

I'm playing on the ipad 3. When it first came out it ran pretty good at that platform. Some occasional lag but lots of ipad/iphone games have a degree of lag or slowdown in them. Pinball fx 2 has tons of it on that platform for example.

Then on that last update on the ipad something weird happened and the performance dropped on my ipad 3. Not sure if its unique to that version of the ipad or what. So the 360 version came around at the perfect time because my ipad version has been essentially broken since the update.

Haven't noticed any input lag on the 360 version myself. There is the very slight occasion of performance hiccups but nothing game breaking or even game hindering for me. I've experienced it maybe half a dozen times over the 10 hours I've put in. I'm pretty sure its running at 60 fps with maybe an occasional dip.

Bebpo · « **Reply #34 on:** April 10, 2012, 04:38:29 PM »

Hope PS3/Vita version isn't laggy. But if the code is the same as the X360 version it'll probably share any problems :|

Will pick this up tonight. Excited to finally play Ripley's at a decent framerate.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #35 on:** April 10, 2012, 04:38:30 PM »

Is TPA running at the native Retina res on the iPad 3? That must look fucking crazy.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #36 on:** April 10, 2012, 04:43:53 PM »

Not sure. I'll check when I get home.

And for what its worth I just checked on itunes and apparently its a known issue that the game is broken on the new ipad. It has this listed in the notes.

Quote

Major known bug: DO NOT UPDATE TO THIS VERSION FOR THE NEW IPAD!

Fixes in this build:
Updated table graphics.
Frame rate improvements.
Leaderboard stability improvements.

So hopefully that gets resolved relatively soon although I'm fine with the 360 version for now.

One option I would like to see them add for the 360 version is analog flipper control. Right now its full on or full off but in the arcades sometimes I used certain little tricks where I wasn't always fully on or fully off.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #37 on:** April 10, 2012, 05:09:57 PM »

Vita version is fine as far as I can tell. There's some menu lag with the touchscreen stuff, in-game seems fine. If anything the touchscreen on Vita is overly sensitive overall. I swear sometimes my finger isn't even touching the screen and touches get registered (this applies to any game/app). Pretty fuckin' sweet to get both versions for one price, as well as any future DLC tables. Sony should be trumpeting value like this any chance they get in ads, but they're stupid so they won't.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #38 on:** April 10, 2012, 05:14:11 PM »

Holy shit I had no idea it was buy one, get the other. SMH

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #39 on:** April 10, 2012, 05:16:50 PM »

Apparently the lighting is slightly better in the PS 3 version simply because it was done the latest. They'll update the 360 version of it later. But here's an example of how it improved from the Hall of Fame collection to the latest versions.

For what its worth Pinball FX 2 is coming to the PS3 and Vita and is going to do the same thing where you buy one version and get it across both platforms.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #40 on:** April 10, 2012, 05:42:26 PM »

Yeah, that shows the super shitty job they did on TOTAN on the Hall of Fame version. The LED is always in frame but it's blank. Wtf

pilonv1 · « **Reply #41 on:** April 10, 2012, 07:46:04 PM »

Any word on gamecenter updates? I can play it for about 15 mins but the lack of decent iOS leaderboards is a killer.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #42 on:** April 10, 2012, 08:12:06 PM »

They've said its coming but it probably won't happen for months realistically with all the versions being worked on.

Himu · « **Reply #43 on:** April 10, 2012, 09:12:13 PM »

On Easter Sunday while in church I whipped out my ipod and scored 12 million points in Arabian Nights. I was on a fucking roll. I made it to 8m, then 9m, finally 11m, and 12m. This was a milestone for me because I normally suck at it, but God enabled me to play pinball with keen accuracy. Thanks God!

Bebpo · « **Reply #44 on:** April 10, 2012, 10:03:38 PM »

PS3 version is so good.

GoTY,GoTY,GoTY

I need more PS3 friends because I'm absolutely destroying the 3 or 4 of my PSN friends on the leaderboards. It feels so good and plays so well on this version. Cannot wait for the DLC tables.

No lag problems on PS3 @ 1080p

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #45 on:** April 10, 2012, 10:09:15 PM »

I'll post my high scores tomorrow. I keep forgetting although its not like they are impressive or anything.

Bebpo · « **Reply #46 on:** April 10, 2012, 10:19:31 PM »

If we dig up the Williams HoF thread I'm pretty sure you beat me on many of the tables, lol.

I'm not "great" at all. But I feel like I can at least hold my own on these games and get some long high score runs in.

The people on my friendlists though are always like waaaaay down there on the leaderboards. Like if I get 50 million on a table, their scores are like 3 million. Same thing happened with Marvel Pinball tables. I barely even played those, like maybe an hour each table and never really learned what all the things did and I still was #1 out of my 6 or under PSN friends who play Marvel. I just don't have pinball players on my PSN friends list.

Bebpo · « **Reply #47 on:** April 10, 2012, 10:22:13 PM »

Once more tables are out, we could revive that old Williams HoF BORE leadboard with the new tables.

Bebpo · « **Reply #48 on:** April 10, 2012, 10:25:46 PM »

Yeah, I'm gonna grab FX2 because of the Vita crossplay. Having all these Pinball tables on the go for trips will be excellent.

What's your PSN?

Bebpo · « **Reply #49 on:** April 11, 2012, 12:01:12 AM »

So let's talk about Black Hole and how it is the hellspawn of Pinball tables like Gorgar was in the Williams Collection.

First of all, all the ways it can fuck you over:

-Wide center gap
-Left flipper lane (maybe right lane two) has a hole in it and balls can roll out
-For some reason the ball can get going REALLY FAST compared to other tables
-If you go into Orbit, not opening the gate will kill you on exit
-If you have a captive ball, which isn't that easy to do because the captive ball lane is at an odd angle, if you go into orbit and die it releases the ball and you have to sit and watch it die unable to do a thing.
-Orbit is goddamn upside DOWN

Most of the hits on the table take you up to the center where your stuck with the bumpers giving miniscule points and making the ball FASTER and FASTER as it comes back to you. Opening the captive ball hole takes some work and then getting there is a total pain, then getting to orbit and getting to multiball...just a lot of stuff you gotta do without a single screw up and the table has MANY WAYS TO SCREW YOU UP.

Evil table. I'm starting out with it (barely touched any of the tables on the iphone version, though generally know ToTA from WHoF) since it's the simplest table like how GORGAR was first, but like GORGAR it's eviiiil.

Btw, demi/muckhole are you getting this? You two held most of the high scores with Williams.

Bebpo · « **Reply #50 on:** April 11, 2012, 12:06:20 AM »

Yeah, I saw your score. Nice!

I got like 21 million and thought I did alright for a first run. Then I searched for the old Williams thread and saw we were posting 100 million+ on that table and went ^^; Gotta re-learn how to play it. Been too many years.

I had a good first run on Ripley I think. Around 50 million and visited all the continents. My Black Hole score is pretty bad, only around 300k atm.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #51 on:** April 11, 2012, 12:17:31 AM »

My high scores

Ripley's
43,906,900

Theater of Magic
2,166,305,760

TOTAN
53,400,090

Black Hole
911,630

Theater of Magic is still the table I feel most comfortable with as I feel I can hit the ramps and the other stuff if I need to. I really can control the ball there. It's also the table where I can keep the multi ball going the longest and get it fairly frequently and easily.

Totan is still a work in progress for me. I can easily hit the ramps now but I find spinning the lamp very dangerous as it often ends up going down the outlanes.

Ripley's is just a random table for me. I can't consistently hit anything on that table. The ramps are very weird for me to hit as they are placed at weird angles and even when I do it shoots it back down instead of gently depositing it back down towards the flippers like most tables do. Just a very random table for me. I lose multi-balls almost immediately for example.

Black Hole is just a bitch. I don't have very good control on it and gap is so fucking wide in the middle that I often lose every single ball that way and quickly.

I'm still learning the tables and figuring out exactly what I need to do on some of them. Like on Totan for the first time recently I collected all the jewels to rescue the princess and fight the genie but I had no idea what to hit during the fight. I lost the fight and ball simply because I didn't know what I was supposed to be aiming for.

I love the physics because just like in real life for me I always feel like I need a couple of games to "warm up" on each table to get in the groove. My first few games are always terrible. Then I get a couple of grooves games. And then I kinda lose it and can't find it again which is when I switch tables or quit for the session.

Bebpo · « **Reply #52 on:** April 11, 2012, 12:31:25 AM »

How did you get so high on Black Hole? I have all the basic goals now after like 30 mins of playing it except the "get 250,000 bonus on the lower level". That seems ridiculous. Need some tips.

My scores after like 1-3 plays on each (except Black Hole where I have like 30 plays now):

Black Hole: 295,790
Theater of Magic: 224,197,650
TOTAN: 21,798,010
Ripley's: 50,540,840

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #53 on:** April 11, 2012, 12:35:39 AM »

FUCK Black Hole

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #54 on:** April 11, 2012, 12:36:09 AM »

It was just a lucky game. My other scores on that table are much lower. I got lucky on the lower level during that game.

Bebpo · « **Reply #55 on:** April 11, 2012, 01:08:14 AM »

Just got 652,420 on Black Hole without activating any multiball or getting any bonuses from the lower level so I still don't have the 250k bonus goal

Getting the multiball is SO FREAKING HARD down there.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #56 on:** April 11, 2012, 01:14:38 AM »

psn username is eelobrian if any of you want to add me

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #57 on:** April 11, 2012, 01:42:27 AM »

How does it play on the Vita?

Any jankiness I should be aware of?

Bebpo · « **Reply #58 on:** April 11, 2012, 01:46:24 AM »

ARGH HATE YOU BLACK HOLE

after two hours straight of horrible horrible bullshit, finally got 70k bonus x 5x multiplier for the last basic goal. Still didn't beat Stoney though.

Black Hole: 743,060

And it should be known that in 2 hours of playing Black Hole I got multi-ball TWICE the entire 60+ turns. This table sucksssss. Time to move on.

Bebpo · « **Reply #59 on:** April 11, 2012, 02:58:46 AM »

Got started on Theater of Magic. Pretty cool table.

This game is buggggy on PS3 though. And a lot of the bugs are the same as Williams Hall of Fame bugs!

Found 3 already.

1. Your trophies for the game currently won't show up on your profile.
2. Game is reaaaally buggy about connecting to their leaderboard servers (Williams had this problem too). If it tries to connect after you finish a run but doesn't connect, it won't tell you, but the next time you go check the leaderboards your score for that run won't be there, instead your previous score will be and there's no way to get your offline hi-score ever uploaded to the leaderboards.
3. Bug #3 is based on bug #2. If you try to quit the game while it's trying to access the leaderboards but not connecting (so your boards are blank), it'll crash your ps3 because it's stuck looking for the servers that it can't find.

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Author Topic: The Pinball Arcade Platform (Get em before they are gone. License lost) (Read 38452 times)