Sony Conference featuring fake Juno and real Juno (tl;dr "vita? what's that?")

[Takao]

trailers get released all the time for games that are eventually cancelled

How often are public betas released for games that will be canceled? This isn't getting canceled. DLC coming isn't a sign of that.

[pilonv1]

What the fuck is this shit

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Quality looks like something Madcatz would make, not Sony.

Or fleshlight

omg how did I miss this

[Eel O'Brian]

trailers get released all the time for games that are eventually cancelled

How often are public betas released for games that will be canceled? This isn't getting canceled. DLC coming isn't a sign of that.

well, we'll see

i have zero faith in anything they show or say after that miserable presentation last night, as oscar said they didn't even mention that they had 30 playable vita games on the show floor

you'll see a brief flash of a vita game or two in their 2013 E3 sizzle reel, and that's as much as the system is ever gonna get from here on

still calling it, totally abandoned and dead by holiday 2013

[Takao]

That is SCEA. LBP is an SCEE franchise, and they don't seem to be as stupid as SCEA is.

[Takao]

Inafune was at E3 too. Why in the world didn't they bring him on stage and talk about the game? I guarantee there are less people in that audience who know about SS than Far Cry 3.

[Eel O'Brian]

such as?

[Himu]

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i've watched this like 10 times it is amazing

[cool breeze]

Reason Portal 2 was in that intro is Portal 2 inmotion for Move.  It's move support for all of Portal 2 and new levels that require Move*





*They're recycling the Razer Sixense levels from the PC game.

If it's free, I can get some use out of my PS3 version.

[Shaka Khan]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38550231&postcount=1433

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

The Vita had a shitty showing but how is that a surprise?  To me, Sony has been wanting to kill off the Vita almost from the get go.  The biggest piece of evidence is their total lack of marketing for the Vita launch campaign in the US.  It's like Sony knew that they had a bomb on their hands and didn't want to dig a deeper hole spending marketing dollars on something they knew wasn't going to take off.

I think what will happen is that the Vita will be canned silently in time for the PS4 launch.  The PR will be something to the effect of Sony wanting to focus all of their resources into making the best experience possible for the PS4.  A shame because it looks like an amazing handheld but it was sent to die.

[Eel O'Brian]

i think the surprise is how publicly they said "fuck it," especially considering there are evidently a lot of vita games on the e3 show floor

that's a pretty shitty way to treat the few devs and publishers throwing any kind of support, not even rating them important enough to spare a 30 second clip reel or even a throwaway mention - while half an hour gets devoted to eyetoy wagglewand "books"

[cool breeze]

real Juno 24 minute "gameplay" thing

[Great Rumbler]

Yep, it's definitely made by Quantic Dream.

[cool breeze]

Beyond is weird.

You play a ghost tethered to Ellen Page.  You can fly around the environment and mess with people by spilling drinks and stuff.  It's like Lifeline mixed with Geist or Ghost Trick.  Everything seems to be real time and there's a limited amount of time to explore the area before it kicks into an event/cutscene.  So these police guys are on the train and you throw a water bottle at Ellen Page to wake up and it seems like the ghost parts are adventure-ish...

then when she's up, you control Ellen Page and it's straight up Heavy Rain QTEs.  And then it switches between them over and over.  As the ghost you can possess other characters and control them, like flying over to a sniper and have him shoot two other guys.

It looks pretty cool.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

#gamechanger

[Eel O'Brian]

hahahaha, none of sony's big E3 shit is coming out this year:

http://www.vg247.com/2012/06/06/no-2012-launch-for-the-last-of-us-confirms-yoshida/

“We are not ready to talk about 2013. But some of the games we showed like God of War and The Last of Us are not coming out this year,” he said in an E3 interview due to go live shortly.

[pilonv1]

So what do they have for Q4 this year? Wonderbook?

[Eel O'Brian]

Big Daddy vs. Fat Princess

[pilonv1]

...

is that it?

[maxy]

All Stars


PS4 is coming,don't be surprised if some of those games get delayed to October 2013.

[Eel O'Brian]

...

is that it?

And a virtual book you have to buy a $100 peripheral to read.

[Eel O'Brian]

no vita price cut*

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-06-06-sony-says-no-to-ps-vita-price-cut

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*until the inevitable

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[Takao]

Did you guys really think Shu would say "Yes, there's a price drop we're going to announce in September" in June? Besides that, Shu works on the software and while I'm sure he knows about the hardware that's not his job.

[Eel O'Brian]

no, i figured there wouldn't be, it's all bundles until they give up on it entirely

they can't afford a price cut, they're broke as fuck

i'm just enjoying the incompetence, man

[maxy]

I read some rumor that Sony management will just sit and wait until Vita manufacturing price falls down enough.

/have no clue if the source is reliable or not

[Takao]

I do think it's interesting that they did not announce a price point for the Madden and AC bundles. I can see them dropping the core WiFi to $199 and the bundle sticks at $249.

[Takao]

I'm pretty sure PS1 was cheaper than like 3DO or something.

[Eel O'Brian]

"If you can build a better machine and it's going to come out a little bit later, that's better than rushing something to market that's going to run out of gas for the long term."

that's exactly what happened to the 360, Jack!

[AdmiralViscen]

Are there any adapters that let me use a microsd card in the proprietary slot?

[Takao]

Are there any adapters that let me use a microsd card in the proprietary slot?

No, Vita memory cards are like the same size of a micro sd card, lol.

[Eel O'Brian]

nah, the memory cards they use are too small, literally about the size of your pinky fingernail

[huckleberry]

Anyone have a link to the Vita games that are being shown on the show floor?

[AdmiralViscen]

Fuck

[Takao]

Anyone have a link to the Vita games that are being shown on the show floor?

Madden
MGS HD
PlayStation All-Stars
Sly 4
Hatsune Miku Project Diva f
Assassin's Creed: Liberation
+ like 20 more

Hatsune Miku's amazing, because for some reason SEGA localized a demo for it and are implying they're looking at interest for a potential localization. 

[Eel O'Brian]

got this from GAF:

http://e3.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=1069

[Joe Molotov]

Hatsune Miku's amazing, because for some reason SEGA localized a demo for it and are implying they're looking at interest for a potential localization. 

Desperate Vita owners would probably buy it.

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I know I would.

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[Takao]

got this from GAF:

http://e3.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=1069

That's blocked here, what's on that?

[Joe Molotov]

got this from GAF:

http://e3.gamespot.com/games.html?platform=1069

That's blocked here, what's on that?

Assassin's Creed III: Liberation   
Call of Duty: Black Ops Declassified   
FIFA Soccer 13
Foosball 2012   
Gravity Rush
Guacamelee!   
Jet Set Radio   
LEGO Batman 2: DC Super Heroes   
LEGO The Lord of the Rings
LittleBigPlanet   
Madden NFL 13
Metal Gear Solid HD Collection
New Little King's Story   
Persona 4: Golden   
PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale
PulzAR   
Retro City
Silent Hill: Book of Memories
Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time   
Smart As   
Soul Sacrifice   
Sound Shapes   
Spy Hunter
Street Fighter X Tekken
When Vikings Attack
Zone of the Enders HD Collection

[huckleberry]

Thanks for the list.


As far as the vita is concerned I really don't understand why Sony doesn't woo in ios developers.  I tried the pinball arcade demo on my vita yesterday and it was pretty damn good.  At first I thought 10 was too much money compared to the iphone versions but considering it comes with 4 tables vs 1 for ios and its not a bad deal.

[Takao]

So ZOE's actually still coming? Weird that the PS3 version doesn't have any transfarring stuff on the box.

[Eel O'Brian]

too slow

[Takao]

I read that Call of Duty isn't on the show floor.

Thanks for the list.


As far as the vita is concerned I really don't understand why Sony doesn't woo in ios developers.  I tried the pinball arcade demo on my vita yesterday and it was pretty damn good.  At first I thought 10 was too much money compared to the iphone versions but considering it comes with 4 tables vs 1 for ios and its not a bad deal.

They are.

All PlayStation Mobile games work on Vita, Sony phones, HTC phones, and any phone company who decides to pay Sony.

[cool breeze]

wait, Last of Us isn't this year? what is coming out on PS3 this year, just Sly 4?

and that Vita list is really lacking original games, although there are a few I'm getting on the Vita (JSR, Retro City, maybe Sly 4).  Is there any video of ass creed vita other than the trailer? 

[huckleberry]

That PlayStation Mobile shit is just confusing the way they presented it.  Sony casts too wide a net sometimes.


I didn't know about the ps mobile games working on vita though - thanks takao

[Takao]

That PlayStation Mobile shit is just confusing the way they presented it.  Sony casts too wide a net sometimes.


I didn't know about the ps mobile games working on vita though - thanks takao

It was announced as PlayStation Suite on the same day Vita was in January 2011. It's basically an app-store lite, with an open beta currently ongoing. The SDK costs $99 a year.

[Eel O'Brian]

Not everything on that list is on the show floor (or even still in existence, as with ZOE).

huh

that's just what i was linked to, i have no real way of knowing

so now i am left wondering what the 25 games on the floor are, since sony sure as fuck didn't tell me

[Huff]

wait, Last of Us isn't this year? what is coming out on PS3 this year, just Sly 4?

Why push out a bunch of games at the end of their life cycle when they can coast on big 3rd party games like microsoft?

[huckleberry]

what are you talking about borys?

[Takao]

jeff_rigby is some crazy guy on GAF who stalks basically every single product license Sony ever makes with the hope that it some how relates to the game division. Sometimes he's right, but often he's just well... kind of crazy.

[Huff]

coasting requires you to be on the water, not under it

Isn't the ps3 doing fine?

[Eel O'Brian]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38601015&postcount=262

Thank god they aren't going to pull a Nintendo. I still feel burned at Nintendo's sudden price cut and I don't want to feel burned at Sony for doing the same. Thanks Sony! I'm really happy at this news.

 

[bachikarn]

well, it's not *losing* money anymore, i suppose that's something.

multiplat software still sells pretty badly, though.

On average, how much worse do they sell than the x360 versions? I'm a little surprised because I was under the impression that they sold well/decently.

[huckleberry]

franchises with a strong connection to the Playstation go about 60-40 or 50-50 with 360

everything else is more like 80-20

like i've always said, ps3 owners should be very grateful the 360 is around, because on its own, nobody would develop shit for the ps3.  the wii's third party sales embarrass it, even.

is this accurate?    

so embarrassing

[cool breeze]

PS1 games on Vita appear to be running through the PSP's PS1 emulator 

 

[maxy]

next gen is coming,mojo


PlayStation Software Product Development Head for Sony Worldwide Studios America and SCEA.

Around 06:10 in Scott Rohde get's asked about PS4. He didn't even try to avoid it. Said something like "Everyone on the planet knows games for PS4 are in development, yeah". He didn't even try to deny it's existence. He said it wasn't time to talk about it. Wow. Maybe he was tired.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2012-sony/731533

next gen

just a reminder,UE4 first look is tommorow

[Bebpo]

wait, Last of Us isn't this year? what is coming out on PS3 this year, just Sly 4?

and that Vita list is really lacking original games, although there are a few I'm getting on the Vita (JSR, Retro City, maybe Sly 4).  Is there any video of ass creed vita other than the trailer?

2012 X-mas is going to be 3rd party time in Sony land.  They got nothing on the 1st party front.

Otoh, X360 has Halo 4, Gears, Forza Horizon, Fable Journey, Panzer Kinect + all the same 3rd parties.


Sony's not even competing this fall.

However, it's looking like PS3 will have a very strong final year in 2013.  A repeat of 2011.

[Shaka Khan]

It'll probably be the first holiday season where Sony doesn't have many exclusives lined up. 2012 is not looking good for both the triple and Morte.

[Eel O'Brian]

PS1 games on Vita appear to be running through the PSP's PS1 emulator 

 

uh, so no dual stick?

franchises with a strong connection to the Playstation go about 60-40 or 50-50 with 360

everything else is more like 80-20

like i've always said, ps3 owners should be very grateful the 360 is around, because on its own, nobody would develop shit for the ps3.  the wii's third party sales embarrass it, even.

is this accurate?    

so embarrassing

I owned RDR on 360 and PS3, and after a few months you could still join full MP Free Roams on 360, while the PS3 offered a much closer experience to traveling on horseback across the real Old West - in that you only saw another person occasionally. This is with free online, and I also believe the PS3 version of RDR was considered to have sold very well.

[huckleberry]

I really want ps1 backwards compatibility for the vita (if only so I can get my occasional fix)....but holy hell if it should be anything more than a bullet point for those numb nuts.

[maxy]

http://venturebeat.com/2012/06/07/trash-talk-from-sony-game-executive-our-competitors-are-losing-the-plot-interview/

GamesBeat: What was some of your reaction to some of the other console press conferences here? Especially where it touches on your space, like in digital?

Jack Buser: I think we’ve had a fantastic E3, I’ve watched all of our competitors very closely. And I think we did a very good job of drawing a solid line in the sand here at E3, and standing up with our back straight as PlayStation and saying, we’re for gamers. We are for the gamer first and foremost. Everything we do at PlayStation, we ask ourselves first, what’s right for the gamer? And at our press conference, we really stood up and put both our hands in the air and said, look, we are for gamers first and foremost. The reaction to the press conference has been just amazingly positive. While some of our competitors, seemingly, are losing the plot, forgetting what built this industry. It was the gamer. We remain incredibly focused on the gamer. And our press conference really drove that home. We showed amazing partnerships with our third parties. We showed incredible titles from our first parties. Last of Us, you saw that? Beyond: Two Souls. You see these titles and they represent some of the…. I’m biased, but these are the best games I’ve ever seen, and they’re exclusive to our platform.

GamesBeat: I guess you didn’t really give an update on the numbers, is there an update on the PSN members…?

Buser: Sure, I can give them to you, here’s the update. We are announcing… Registered PSN accounts, more than 100 million worldwide. PS3, more than 64 million units worldwide. I gave you the stat on games, 1,578 downloadable games since the PSN launched, that’s a lot. Fastest-selling game on PlayStation Network was Journey. Here’s some cool new facts. You saw the press conference, 80 percent of PS3s connected to the internet worldwide, very high. More than 70 percent of PSN members use PSN weekly or more often, so very engagement. Average hours PSN is used per week is 7.1 hours. Very long session durations. We’re seeing extremely high engagement on PlayStation Network. Two-thirds of PlayStation Network members play online multiplayer on PSN weekly or more often, so highly engaged, playing a ton of games

another goldmine(gaf)

I can understand why people are mad about the Vita not having any games, but at the same time maybe you shouldn't of jumped on the bandwagon so early?

This E3 is fun