Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE (Read 2562851 times)

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #60 on:** January 23, 2013, 05:01:44 PM »

Remember that month of soul searching the GOP did after the election? Sounds like they came to the conclusion their best shot at winning elections again is to just rig things.

Yeti · « **Reply #61 on:** January 23, 2013, 06:31:06 PM »

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #62 on:** January 24, 2013, 01:01:02 AM »

This might be the most infuriating video I've watched in months. This fucking cunt needs to retire from the court. Or die, I don't give a shit.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #63 on:** January 24, 2013, 01:37:10 AM »

He won't retire if a Democrat is in office. He'll have to die or have a stroke or some shit.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #64 on:** January 24, 2013, 10:46:11 AM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/23/catholic-hospital-argues-_n_2534383.html?utm_hp_ref=tw

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But when it came to mounting a defense in the Stodghill case, Catholic Health’s lawyers effectively turned the Church directives on their head. Catholic organizations have for decades fought to change federal and state laws that fail to protect “unborn persons,” and Catholic Health’s lawyers in this case had the chance to set precedent bolstering anti-abortion legal arguments. Instead, they are arguing state law protects doctors from liability concerning unborn fetuses on grounds that those fetuses are not persons with legal rights.

A fetus is a person except when you are getting sued for medical malpractice.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #65 on:** January 24, 2013, 08:08:43 PM »

Barry Egan · « **Reply #66 on:** January 24, 2013, 08:52:15 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 24, 2013, 08:08:43 PM

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Oh man. Block out the name and this is the most perfect example of Poe's law I have ever seen.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #67 on:** January 24, 2013, 08:54:01 PM »

Hearing stories about ambushed convoys and women having to help fight it out, only to not get combat medals because of this ban makes me think this should be retroactive.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #68 on:** January 24, 2013, 09:44:02 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 24, 2013, 08:08:43 PM

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what a fucking moron

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #69 on:** January 24, 2013, 10:02:02 PM »

It's Tucker Carlson*, this is just par for the course.

*or just substitute you're favorite right-wing media person, it really makes no difference.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #70 on:** January 24, 2013, 11:51:48 PM »

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/01/my_god_could_this_be_true.php

perhaps the only political story of the week that didn't piss me off. This is priceless

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #71 on:** January 25, 2013, 01:25:35 AM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/republican-vote-rigging-electoral-college_n_2546010.html

derp

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #72 on:** January 25, 2013, 01:16:21 PM »

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/mississippi_sovereignty_bill.php?ref=fpa

derp derp

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #73 on:** January 25, 2013, 01:48:12 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 25, 2013, 01:16:21 PM

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/mississippi_sovereignty_bill.php?ref=fpa

derp derp

He looks like he's responding to a casting call for either "Southern Plantation Owner" or "Fried Chicken Magnate".

Steve Contra · « **Reply #74 on:** January 25, 2013, 02:50:17 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 25, 2013, 01:48:12 PM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 25, 2013, 01:16:21 PM
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/mississippi_sovereignty_bill.php?ref=fpa

derp derp

He looks like he's responding to a casting call for either "Southern Plantation Owner" or "Fried Chicken Magnate".

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we need somebody that screams "racist"

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #75 on:** January 25, 2013, 02:55:33 PM »

Nate Silver did his usual roundup of polling outfits. Rasmussen and Gallup fared poorly, whereas internet polling outfits like Ipsos and RAND did well.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/which-polls-fared-best-and-worst-in-the-2012-presidential-race/

Steve Contra · « **Reply #76 on:** January 25, 2013, 03:12:42 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 24, 2013, 11:51:48 PM

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/01/my_god_could_this_be_true.php

perhaps the only political story of the week that didn't piss me off. This is priceless

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #77 on:** January 25, 2013, 03:15:44 PM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on January 25, 2013, 02:55:33 PM

Nate Silver did his usual roundup of polling outfits. Rasmussen and Gallup fared poorly, whereas internet polling outfits like Ipsos and RAND did well.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/which-polls-fared-best-and-worst-in-the-2012-presidential-race/

I can't wait until September 2016 when Hillary is up 5 on Rubio in ABC/NBC/CBS/RAND/etc polls and we see a return of the unskewing movement. Will be fun seeing Dick Morris and Karl Rove doing their thing again. I don't remember Morris getting much shit in 08 when he was dead wrong, but the reactions to his 2012 rants were great.

Mandark · « **Reply #78 on:** January 25, 2013, 03:36:28 PM »

Appeals court just knocked down the practice of recess appointments, apparently. Hm.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #79 on:** January 25, 2013, 03:40:56 PM »

No one will ever get appointed ever again.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #80 on:** January 25, 2013, 04:43:54 PM »

luckily dems reformed the fili- ah nevermind

Mandark · « **Reply #81 on:** January 25, 2013, 07:12:55 PM »

Harry Reid is truly history's greatest monster!

From what I'm getting, the court went against a lot of judicial precedent and real-world practice to make this ruling. So maybe it gets overturned later. Or maybe this, along with the near nullification of the ACA, is the new normal. Sheesh.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #82 on:** January 25, 2013, 07:27:16 PM »

We'll see, it's definitely heading to the Supreme Court. Something tells me Mitch McConnell will be less concerned about going against the history/fabric of US senate tradition if he gets the chance to shitcan the filibuster after the 2014 election.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #83 on:** January 25, 2013, 08:29:39 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on January 25, 2013, 07:12:55 PM

Harry Reid is truly history's greatest monster!

From what I'm getting, the court went against a lot of judicial precedent and real-world practice to make this ruling. So maybe it gets overturned later. Or maybe this, along with the near nullification of the ACA, is the new normal. Sheesh.

Dern liberal activist judges, legislating from the bench!

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #84 on:** January 26, 2013, 05:14:08 PM »

Looks like Scott Brown has been drunk tweeting

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/ex-sen-scott-brown-s-bizarre-early-morning?ref=fpb

Mandark · « **Reply #85 on:** January 26, 2013, 06:06:23 PM »

deep breaths...

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #86 on:** January 27, 2013, 12:31:13 PM »

Haven't really been following this, so this might be old news ...

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State prosecutors who investigated the late Aaron Swartz had planned to let him off with a stern warning, but federal prosecutor Carmen Ortiz took over and chose to make an example of the Internet activist, according to a report in Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly.
Middlesex County's district attorney had planned no jail time, "with Swartz duly admonished and then returned to civil society to continue his pioneering electronic work in a less legally questionable manner," the report (alternate link) said. "Tragedy intervened when Ortiz's office took over the case to send 'a message.'"

The report is likely to fuel an online campaign against Ortiz, who has been criticized for threatening the 26-year-old with decades in prison for allegedly downloading a large quantity of academic papers. An online petition asking President Obama to remove from office Ortiz -- a politically ambitious prosecutor who was talked about as Massachusetts' next governor as recently as last month.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57565927-38/swartz-didnt-face-prison-until-feds-took-over-case-report-says/

I hate when federal government does this shit. Same kind of thing happened to Martha Stewart.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #87 on:** January 27, 2013, 12:56:51 PM »

Sounds like she wanted to throw the book at this guy to shore up her "tough on crime" stance for a governor run.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #88 on:** January 27, 2013, 01:01:47 PM »

Quote from: The Experiment on January 27, 2013, 12:56:51 PM

Sounds like she wanted to throw the book at this guy to shore up her "tough on crime" stance for a governor run.

And there's this:

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/01/triumphant_motel_owner_slams_carmen_ortiz

Yeti · « **Reply #89 on:** January 27, 2013, 01:14:58 PM »

I hadn't seen this before.

WTF Fox News.

Mandark · « **Reply #90 on:** January 27, 2013, 01:40:01 PM »

Well, it's not like overzealous prosecution is unique to the feds. The DA in the Duke lacrosse thing was a local, for example.

I'd imagine that with broadly written laws that carry stiff penalties is that you either push for uniform enforcement where everybody gets the book thrown at them, or leave it to the discretion of the DA's, and wind up with selective overprosecution. I'm not really sure what the incentives are like for prosecutors and whether they have any reason to worry about overcharging someone if the case doesn't draw a ton of negative publicity.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #91 on:** January 27, 2013, 01:45:42 PM »

Overheard someone desperately trying to explain why Benghazi was a worse federal fuck up disaster than 911 and Katrina. Because it could have been prevented but wasn't due to an uncaring lazy president who watched Americans die because "he thinks he's a king."

And yes Mandark this was at Subway. I have coupons!

Mandark · « **Reply #92 on:** January 27, 2013, 02:01:05 PM »

That doesn't sound like black excellence.

On a similar note, from my FB feed...

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #93 on:** January 27, 2013, 02:53:00 PM »

If all our laws were modeled after Best Korea, our economy would be as vibrant as theirs.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #94 on:** January 27, 2013, 03:20:51 PM »

Isn't illegal immigration down big time over the last 5-6 years? The explanation is typically that the US economy sucks...but if you were an illegal immigrant wouldn't you still prefer a jobless US over Mexico. Afterall, you can collect unemployment

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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #95 on:** January 27, 2013, 08:14:04 PM »

oh man, my friend sent me an email he received from his grand dad concerning "Obama's scar" and whether he has had brain surgery. I knew some people were talking about it, but didn't know it was truly "a thing"

this tells me a couple things

1) some people truly don't know anything about black people
2) Barack needs to work on his hair brushing swag

Yeti · « **Reply #96 on:** January 27, 2013, 08:58:07 PM »

I assume that scar is where they implanted the Liberal chip.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #97 on:** January 27, 2013, 08:59:26 PM »

About 2-3 years ago, it was all the chain e-mail rage that Obama actually has a tail.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #98 on:** January 27, 2013, 09:17:53 PM »

Quote from: Yeti on January 27, 2013, 08:58:07 PM

I assume that scar is where they implanted the Marxist chip.

Fixed.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #99 on:** January 27, 2013, 09:33:37 PM »

I'm not surprised they would do that in Kenya.

In America, under Obamacare, our enslavement will be in the form of RFID microchips in our bloodstream:

brawndolicious · « **Reply #100 on:** January 27, 2013, 10:40:21 PM »

Black men have hair scars?

drew · « **Reply #101 on:** January 28, 2013, 01:18:13 AM »

Quote from: The Experiment on January 27, 2013, 09:33:37 PM

RFID microchips in our bloodstream

BUT THAT WOULD KILL YOU DEADER THAN A HAMMER. "All according to plan Lord Vader" hueeeeeeeeee

:AlexJones

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #102 on:** January 28, 2013, 01:56:01 AM »

and here we go

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Senators Reach Bipartisan Immigration Reform Deal

A bipartisan group of eight Senators working on a comprehensive immigration reform plan are planning on announcing a framework for a bill Monday after reaching an agreement on the broad outlines of a package, including a path to citizenship for the nation's 11 million undocumented immigrants.

According to the Associated Press, the bill would grant legal status and a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants only after a series of additional border security measures were put in place. In addition, the package would include an e-verify program to prevent employers from hiring undocumented workers in the future, an expanded visa and guest worker program to manage future immigration, and a seperate streamlined path towards citizenship for undocumented immigrants who were bought to America as children.

The Democratic Senators working on the deal are Sens. Robert Menedez (D-NJ), Dick Durbin (D-IL), Michael Bennett (D-CO), and Chuck Schumer (D-NY). The Republicans are Sens. John McCain (R-AZ), Marco Rubio (R-FL), Jeff Flake (R-AZ), and Lindsey Graham (R-SC).

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/senators-reach-bipartisan-immigration-reform-deal?ref=fpa

Sounds almost exactly like the plan Obama has campaigned on for 5 years, which sounded like Bush's immigration plan. I guess the only question is whether Obama will insist the DREAM Act be included, oh and what will the house do lol

Hopefully the STEM bill is included too

Edit: apparently this frame work does include the DREAM Act

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #103 on:** January 28, 2013, 02:12:22 AM »

DOA in the House.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #104 on:** January 28, 2013, 02:18:52 AM »

Of course it's DOA in the House, it's a sensible piece of bi-partisan legislation that 90% of the country would support. The remaining 10% are the people who watch Fox News and listen to Rush Limbaugh [i.e. the base of the modern Republican party].

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #105 on:** January 28, 2013, 02:28:59 AM »

It's win win imo. Either it passes and helps the immigration situation, or it fails and house republicans look like extremists once again for all to see. They're really shitcanning their brand and while I think they'll hold the House until the next census, at the least they will lose more and more seats.

I think the Hispanic vote will be secured for democrats in the short term regardless of what happens. As the GOP evolves, their demographic problems will get better so there's no telling what the long term Hispanic vote will be. That being said, the 2012 exit polls showed they're pretty fucking liberal across all ages...

brawndolicious · « **Reply #106 on:** January 28, 2013, 04:30:11 AM »

I don't really expect them to evolve until they lose the house and the senate.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #107 on:** January 28, 2013, 05:20:05 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on January 27, 2013, 02:01:05 PM

That doesn't sound like black excellence.

On a similar note, from my FB feed...

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We were afraid of a hard labor gap

HyperZoneWasAwesome · « **Reply #108 on:** January 28, 2013, 05:45:15 AM »

it was the needless bullying of then nominee Justice Sotomayor that cemented my opinion that the Pub's really don't give a shit about winning over the Latino vote.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #109 on:** January 28, 2013, 08:25:11 AM »

Quote from: am nintenho on January 28, 2013, 04:30:11 AM

I don't really expect them to evolve until they lose the house and the senate.

That happened in 2006, they lost more in 2008, and their strategy was to double down on the crazy every single time. It's the only thing they know, really.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #110 on:** January 28, 2013, 10:15:18 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on January 27, 2013, 02:01:05 PM

That doesn't sound like black excellence.

On a similar note, from my FB feed...

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"you get a job" is the best part. People I know are believers that the federal Government is actually giving illegal immigrants jobs as soon as they get here. It's the biggest wtf about immigration I've heard.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #111 on:** January 28, 2013, 10:23:13 AM »

It's all part of the super secret "non-white person" welfare system that gives you tons of free money and benefits.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #112 on:** January 28, 2013, 10:26:23 AM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 28, 2013, 10:23:13 AM

It's all part of the super secret "non-white person" welfare system that gives you tons of free money and benefits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_duckies

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #113 on:** January 28, 2013, 10:30:33 AM »

Steve Contra · « **Reply #114 on:** January 28, 2013, 10:39:26 AM »

That's basically the RNC's economic platform in comic form.

tiesto · « **Reply #115 on:** January 28, 2013, 11:08:25 AM »

I thought that after the recent loss the Republicans were frantically trying to figure out how to appeal to Hispanic voters?

Brehvolution · « **Reply #116 on:** January 28, 2013, 11:17:07 AM »

If the pubs help solve the immigration problem, they aren't going to be able to use it as a wedge issue in 2014.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #117 on:** January 28, 2013, 11:29:34 AM »

Quote from: tiesto on January 28, 2013, 11:08:25 AM

I thought that after the recent loss the Republicans were frantically trying to figure out how to appeal to Hispanic voters?

I think their conclusion was that they just didn't explain the Republican platform to Hispanics well enough (or disenfranchise enough of them).

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #118 on:** January 28, 2013, 11:31:32 AM »

I don't doubt that some GOP leadership wants to make changes but going up against their crazy ass donors and even crazier ass base...not going to be easy.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #119 on:** January 28, 2013, 12:16:18 PM »

I think that sums up the Republicans in a nutshell. Their grassroots people are crazy as fuck and the people with the money have no problems funding them (as long as they remain anti-tax).

It's a weird symbiotic relationship.

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