Author Topic: LGBTQIAHP thread for LGBTQIAHP people. Cis scum now allowed! (Read 137074 times)

Himu · « **Reply #720 on:** June 10, 2014, 09:50:00 AM »

What are you,squid?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #721 on:** June 10, 2014, 09:51:56 AM »

I didn't read it all but Savage sounds on point.

Squiddy · « **Reply #722 on:** June 10, 2014, 10:01:33 AM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 10, 2014, 09:50:00 AM

What are you,squid?

Just your average straight dude, sorry to disappoint.

brob · « **Reply #723 on:** June 10, 2014, 10:51:21 AM »

http://yourfaveisproblematic.tumblr.com/post/49284037149/dan-savage

Himu · « **Reply #724 on:** June 10, 2014, 11:04:31 AM »

Dan savage is a dick. But he's absolutely right about _____-word. God I hate that shit.

Himu · « **Reply #725 on:** June 10, 2014, 11:26:54 AM »

I also agree with Dan on avoiding dating bi men. I just don't want to date someone who may or may not have an interest in down there, because I don't want any guy to touch, look, or be aroused by it. For this reason, I don't want to date bi men. Do you realize how unfair it would be to say,"I know you like it, but you can't touch it"?

Straight men. Only. Though I'm sure there are exceptions.

I also, am reluctant to date a bi guy because I admit. I am scared he will cheat on me with a man. Which probably isn't fair. I'm much more open to a relationship with a bi woman, however.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #726 on:** June 10, 2014, 11:35:49 AM »

Himu · « **Reply #727 on:** June 10, 2014, 11:39:31 AM »

I don't see anything confusing.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #728 on:** June 10, 2014, 11:45:13 AM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 10, 2014, 11:26:54 AM

I also agree with Dan on avoiding dating bi men. I just don't want to date someone who may or may not have an interest in down there, because I don't want any guy to touch, look, or be aroused by it. For this reason, I don't want to date bi men. Do you realize how unfair it would be to say,"I know you like it, but you can't touch it"?

I don't know what this means, I'm confused.

also to be fair/no shots, do you believe dating straight men exclusively is an option? Just curious.

Himu · « **Reply #729 on:** June 10, 2014, 11:48:51 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on June 10, 2014, 11:45:13 AM

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 10, 2014, 11:26:54 AM
I also agree with Dan on avoiding dating bi men. I just don't want to date someone who may or may not have an interest in down there, because I don't want any guy to touch, look, or be aroused by it. For this reason, I don't want to date bi men. Do you realize how unfair it would be to say,"I know you like it, but you can't touch it"?

I don't know what this means, I'm confused.

also to be fair/no shots, do you believe dating straight men exclusively is an option? Just curious.

Yes. Most trans women I know who date men date only straight men (as far as we can tell!).

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #730 on:** June 10, 2014, 11:51:39 AM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 10, 2014, 11:48:51 AM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on June 10, 2014, 11:45:13 AM
Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 10, 2014, 11:26:54 AM
I also agree with Dan on avoiding dating bi men. I just don't want to date someone who may or may not have an interest in down there, because I don't want any guy to touch, look, or be aroused by it. For this reason, I don't want to date bi men. Do you realize how unfair it would be to say,"I know you like it, but you can't touch it"?

I don't know what this means, I'm confused.

also to be fair/no shots, do you believe dating straight men exclusively is an option? Just curious.

Yes. Most trans women I know who date men date only straight men (as far as we can tell!).

"because I don't want any guy to touch, look, or be aroused by it. For this reason, I don't want to date bi men. Do you realize how unfair it would be to say,"I know you like it, but you can't touch it?"

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Squiddy · « **Reply #731 on:** June 10, 2014, 12:00:36 PM »

It makes perfect sense. No one wants to be reminded of their biological traits that may not be in line with the ideal female body type.
You want to be loved and liked for the gender you identify with, not for other-gender parts you don't consider to be an integral part of yourself.

Himu · « **Reply #732 on:** June 10, 2014, 12:09:24 PM »

How is that confusing? This isn't porn. Why would I want a man to do that?

http://www.tsgirlfriend.com/sex-with-a-transsexual-woman.html

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Let's dispel one myth right away. Transsexuals are women. Women are generally not the aggressors in bed. Women want to be "taken," they usually aren't the ones to initiate sex by pulling their men into the bedroom. There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to support this notion. Check out the covers of romance novels in any bookstore, for example. Look into a woman's eyes -- notice how they draw you in?

If you're a "bottom" male hoping that a pre-op or non-op transsexual will bend you over and fuck you, well you can forget about it. Women, transsexual or otherwise, generally do not want to fuck you. They want you to fuck them. As a TS lady friend expressed it to me recently, "Women receive, they do not project."

For the guy looking to be "topped," expect to have to pay an escort for that service. That is mostly what they specialize in. If paying for a romp in bed isn't your style, it is very doubtful you will find it anywhere else in the TS community. Cross dressers, however, are a different matter. These are not women, they are men enjoying a dress-up fetishistic fantasy. You may find what you want with one of them.

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If this is her first time making love as a woman, she's probably terrified. If she's pre-op, she's worried that you might want to play with that yucky male appendage that she hasn't yet converted into a vagina. She may not want you to touch it at all. If she responds with an erection, she may be very embarrassed, and also very conflicted. How many women want to respond like a male? Not many. If she's like most pre-ops, she would prefer that you pretend it doesn't exist.

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I believe the majority of men interested in TS's are bi to some degree. Heterosexual transwomen generally want what GG's want: A straight man, a guy who appreciates them for who they are, not for their genitals. TS's typically don't want to be involved with bi guys. They often cite a few reasons for this:

1. Bi men are attracted to the penis, an appendage they would love to convert into a vagina.
2. Common statement: "He's not attracted to me, he's only attracted to my penis. He only wants a chick with a dick."
3. She wonders if he will still be interested in her once she's had sexual reassignment surgery to convert that penis into a vagina.
4. They are concerned that a bi guy will be sneaking around on her to meet with men.
5. They are concerned that bisexual guys are more likely to contract STD's and HIV.

MORE AT LINK.

I swear I'm not crazy.

would be much easier being a lez for real.

nudemacusers · « **Reply #733 on:** June 10, 2014, 12:15:02 PM »

Quote from: Brobzoid on June 10, 2014, 10:51:21 AM

http://yourfaveisproblematic.tumblr.com/post/49284037149/dan-savage

death by a thousand microaggressions

Himu · « **Reply #734 on:** June 10, 2014, 12:17:29 PM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #735 on:** June 10, 2014, 12:28:13 PM »

ahhh I misunderstood. I get it now.

TVC15 · « **Reply #736 on:** June 10, 2014, 12:46:20 PM »

Dan Savage is right about bi people, too.

Squiddy · « **Reply #737 on:** June 10, 2014, 12:57:01 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 10, 2014, 12:09:24 PM

Women are generally not the aggressors in bed. Women want to be "taken," they usually aren't the ones to initiate sex by pulling their men into the bedroom. There's plenty of anecdotal evidence to support this notion. Check out the covers of romance novels in any bookstore, for example. Look into a woman's eyes -- notice how they draw you in?

Paging Devolution.

Himu · « **Reply #738 on:** June 10, 2014, 12:58:59 PM »

"Generally."

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #739 on:** June 10, 2014, 01:00:24 PM »

stereotype women brehs

you're killing women, Himuro

Himu · « **Reply #740 on:** June 10, 2014, 01:01:28 PM »

I didn't write that.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #741 on:** June 10, 2014, 01:13:19 PM »

too late, they're all dead

Himu · « **Reply #742 on:** June 10, 2014, 01:25:32 PM »

A lot of things guys take as submissive can actually be dominant, anyways. For example, sucking a cock. There is something extremely relieving about making a guy make an O face with your mouth, and he can't do shit about it. So the quote is definitely wrong about that. But I don't belief most women want to penetrate men. I could be wrong about that, but I think the quote is correct in that regard.

TVC15 · « **Reply #743 on:** June 10, 2014, 01:27:39 PM »

So, as a tangent, what do you think the ratio is of strap-ons sold to lesbians vs strap-ons sold to straight women that like to peg their husbands?

Himu · « **Reply #744 on:** June 10, 2014, 01:28:17 PM »

TVC15 · « **Reply #745 on:** June 10, 2014, 01:29:45 PM »

...would PD be in that 5?

Himu · « **Reply #746 on:** June 10, 2014, 01:30:20 PM »

I haven't figured out if he is a top or a bottom yet.

brob · « **Reply #747 on:** June 10, 2014, 01:32:14 PM »

I wonder how much internalized cissexism is required to think "the covers of romance novels in any bookstore" is somehow a compelling argument for gender essentialism

prolly a lot

Himu · « **Reply #748 on:** June 10, 2014, 01:32:58 PM »

Seriously.

Himu · « **Reply #749 on:** June 10, 2014, 01:37:59 PM »

Also, to be fair, Brob - I THINK that piece is written by a cis man.

Mupepe · « **Reply #750 on:** June 10, 2014, 01:38:21 PM »

I like my wife to rape me and she likes to rape me. I can be a submissive slut when I want to be

Himu · « **Reply #751 on:** June 10, 2014, 01:42:31 PM »

Quote from: Mupepe on June 10, 2014, 01:38:21 PM

I like my wife to rape me and she likes to rape me. I can be a submissive slut when I want to be

goddamn it's steamy in here

brob · « **Reply #752 on:** June 10, 2014, 01:47:22 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 10, 2014, 01:37:59 PM

Also, to be fair, Brob - I THINK that piece is written by a cis man.

lmao, just run-of-the-mill sexism then

TVC15 · « **Reply #753 on:** June 10, 2014, 01:48:42 PM »

I don't remember Mupepe being married. Did this happen in my absence?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #754 on:** June 10, 2014, 01:54:04 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on June 10, 2014, 01:48:42 PM

I don't remember Mupepe being married. Did this happen in my absence?

He's Hispanic. They get married the minute they turn 13.

Squiddy · « **Reply #755 on:** June 10, 2014, 02:27:12 PM »

Women can have penises, guys.
Don't judge - it is a female organ if you want it to be.

Himu · « **Reply #756 on:** June 10, 2014, 02:29:33 PM »

The clit pretty much is a penis anyways.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #757 on:** June 10, 2014, 02:30:31 PM »

how come trans women don't "take back" the penis like black people took back the n word?

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Himu · « **Reply #758 on:** June 10, 2014, 02:31:03 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on June 10, 2014, 02:30:31 PM

how come trans women don't "take back" the penis like black people took back the n word?

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freudian slip?

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #759 on:** June 10, 2014, 03:34:43 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on June 10, 2014, 12:46:20 PM

Dan Savage is right about bi people, too.

No, he isn't.

So it's cool to bash bi people in here?

also LOL @ bullshit reasons to not date a bisexual man

Himu · « **Reply #760 on:** June 10, 2014, 03:38:06 PM »

Who was bashing? I'm sure there are exceptions, but why should I date a bi man over a straight one?

Squiddy · « **Reply #761 on:** June 10, 2014, 03:47:49 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 10, 2014, 03:38:06 PM

Who was bashing? I'm sure there are exceptions, but why should I date a bi man over a straight one?

You tell 'em, gurl!

Bi people should chose a side already, they're like the agnostics of religious debates - both sides hate them.

Mupepe · « **Reply #762 on:** June 10, 2014, 03:56:35 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on June 10, 2014, 01:48:42 PM

I don't remember Mupepe being married. Did this happen in my absence?

I got married in 2009

TVC15 · « **Reply #763 on:** June 10, 2014, 04:02:18 PM »

I was gone then. Does she really peg you?

Himu · « **Reply #764 on:** June 10, 2014, 04:02:40 PM »

Quote from: Squiddy on June 10, 2014, 03:47:49 PM

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 10, 2014, 03:38:06 PM
Who was bashing? I'm sure there are exceptions, but why should I date a bi man over a straight one?

You tell 'em, gurl!

Bi people should chose a side already, they're like the agnostics of religious debates - both sides hate them.

I think "pick a side" is biphobic but I never said that about bi people in that manner and neither did TVC. I'm open to it, but I'm mostly pursuing something else.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #765 on:** June 10, 2014, 04:09:08 PM »

I kinda get himu's concerns but I think it's kinda silly. Just because he's bi doesn't necessarily mean he'd be interested in your dick. And you could meet a straight dude and he could be into your dick. Apparently some straight men like dick, I mean look at PD.

Himu · « **Reply #766 on:** June 10, 2014, 04:14:22 PM »

Correction: "straight".

Himu · « **Reply #767 on:** June 10, 2014, 04:27:42 PM »

I identify with this thread so much.

IM SORRY.

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/24n441/women_who_are_turned_off_disgusted_afraid_or/

Himu · « **Reply #768 on:** June 10, 2014, 04:55:03 PM »

We should post personal dossiers.

Gender identity: female
Sexual identity: bisexual with heavy leaning towards men
Sexual interest: men
Romantic interest: men
Who I would date: straight men, transsexual men, transsexual women, bisexual men, bisexual women, lesbians.

TEEEPO · « **Reply #769 on:** June 10, 2014, 04:57:04 PM »

i've seen a rise in the number of OKC profiles for queer identified women who specifically state that they wont respond to a man who isn't bi. this number is probably sitting at around three, but it was at zero about a year ago.

to each their own. i just get mad when i see that the majority of white women answer that they'll never date outside their race :'(

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #770 on:** June 10, 2014, 05:05:16 PM »

Quote from: AWESOM-O on June 10, 2014, 04:39:48 PM

I don't think any truly straight men pay as much attention to the penis as PD.

I've already compared it to watching professional athletics or any other skilled venture. It sounds like people are offended that I have high standards for everything I do, watch, or listen to. If I'm listening to music I like listening to great stuff. If I'm working I prefer to work hard. And if I'm watching porn I like watching highly skilled BBC pornstars banging hard working chicks (whether they're hot or not).

TVC15 · « **Reply #771 on:** June 10, 2014, 05:09:27 PM »

So it doesn't matter if the chicks or hot or not? You're just trolling us now.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #772 on:** June 10, 2014, 05:17:44 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on June 10, 2014, 05:09:27 PM

So it doesn't matter if the chicks or hot or not? You're just trolling us now.

No this is a long held gripe of mine, as a porn fan. A good deal of my favorite porn stars aren't what I'd call "attractive." Gianna Michaels isn't hot. Sarah Jay has bad teeth. Sophie Dee looks rather trashy. But the thing I like about all of them is that they're great performers, they're not just laying on a bed getting fucked - which is the case for a LOT of hot porn stars. That's not to say I don't like any hot pornstars - Misty Stone, Obsession, Olivia O'Lovely, etc are hot AND good at porn imo.

This is why I was never a fan of Jenna Jameson. Not because she never fucked a black person, but because she was boring.

Himu · « **Reply #773 on:** June 10, 2014, 05:19:18 PM »

Who is a fan of porn? Isn't it just something you use to masturbate to and then turn it off? Do you watch porn as a hobby? Are you a porn addict?

Steve Contra · « **Reply #774 on:** June 10, 2014, 05:20:27 PM »

PD looking more suspect the more he talks about this

TEEEPO · « **Reply #775 on:** June 10, 2014, 05:20:34 PM »

porn as a means to an end?

the fuck is this, i love porn.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #776 on:** June 10, 2014, 05:21:20 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on June 10, 2014, 05:19:18 PM

Who is a fan of porn? Isn't it just something you use to masturbate to and then turn it off? Do you watch porn as a hobby? Are you a porn addict?

No, although I watch my fair share. I barely watch television, but when I do I tend to stick to shows I think are really fucking good. The only thing I do indiscriminately is read. I'll read just about anything, and once I start I rarely don't finish unless it's something that's just Beloved-level bad.

TVC15 · « **Reply #777 on:** June 10, 2014, 05:22:43 PM »

Do you own a BBDildo?

Himu · « **Reply #778 on:** June 10, 2014, 05:23:59 PM »

Have you ever put a cucumber up your ass and then smelled it?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #779 on:** June 10, 2014, 05:26:34 PM »

Esch: I wouldn't call Gianna ugly, I just don't think she is hot. She has a pretty average face. Yet her laugh alone would probably make me explode in my pants.

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Author Topic: LGBTQIAHP thread for LGBTQIAHP people. Cis scum now allowed! (Read 137074 times)