LGBTQIAHP thread for LGBTQIAHP people. Cis scum now allowed!

[Himu]

Well, if she's not calling you and stuff about it - and she's surely looked over your results - then I wouldn't worry about it until the appointment. How's your liver?

[Raban]

how would I know how it is? I've been feeling fine, although on the rare occasion I have alcohol it's clear I'm a total lightweight. Other than that, I dunno. Is there something in a blood test that could tell me? Everything else on the test was within range except I had only very slightly lower sodium (possibly because I drank a lot of water before the test). It was only T that was way lower than range and E that was way, way higher. I'm still kinda about that

[Himu]

On my blood test results it has a section for liver and says OK or some shit iirc. I'm surprised your doctor didn't go over the results with you. 

I found this on Susan's:

http://wiki.susans.org/index.php/Reference_ranges_for_blood_tests

[Himu]

I'm talking to people about your results so we can see what's up. When do you take your E? Did you take it 2~ hours before the test? Are you still on 4mg? My friend has hit 1400ml but that was because she took it right before her blood test.

[Raban]

yeah I'm pretty sure I took it right before my blood test, and I'm still on 4mg, but I split it day/night so I took 2mg that morning. looking at that page and my test results I'm at about mid-to-high range for all the liver functions.

I think she didn't speak to me personally because 1) she is really busy every day and 2) she's gonna see me next month anyways. they weren't even gonna send me the results until I called and asked for them, and because of some confusion over the phone I just went to the clinic and got them in person.

[Himu]

Mid-to-high is worrying but then again you took it right before the test, so it's likely the liver results are skewed as well. Try to take your dose 2 hours before your test next time so the results aren't as skewed.

[Himu]

Jesus Christ.

This whole drag queen and transsexual thing is a HOT MESS.

http://www.advocate.com/politics/transgender/2014/05/28/carmen-carrera-becomes-lightning-rod-t-word-debate

[Junpei the Tracer!]

Carmen Carrera

[Phoenix Dark]

"Let’s face it, we wouldn’t know who the fuck Carmen Carrera was if she didn’t fucking get on Drag Race," Haylock said Saturday at The Manor in Wilton Manors, Fla. "Maybe she should take what’s left of her dick and stick it in her mouth and shut the fuck up."

[Himu]

My take: completely agreed with Carmen. Always funny to see gay people not give a shit about other marginalized communities feelings. The vitriol from Bianca for instance is transphobic, and exceedingly excessive. Bianca looks like a complete bitch. I've ignored this recent RuPaul drama, but I'm completely against Ru on this. No, you do not have a license to use 'cheeseburger'. Because we are in lgbt does not make you trans, and gay people do not own LGBT.

Honestly gives me even more reason to want transsexuals to leave the LGBT thing in general, because it increasingly shows, from this to pride festivals, to portrayals of things like Stonewall that gays only really only care about themselves. Gays are the cacs of LGBT. If we can't say it, no one can. Tic for tac.

[ZephyrFate]

So what's the point of being a drag queen if you can't be offensive to everyone, then? It's part of the shtick, they've been at the forefront of LGBT (yes, T as well) rights since the beginning.

And actually, yes, drag queens are in the trans- umbrella (specifically transvestism with tinges of transgender, depending on the gender identity a particular queen takes on). If we're going to say "gay people don't own LGBT", well neither do trans people.

[Himu]

I've never considered drag as a part of the transgender umbrella. It isn't like cross dressing so the person can feel good about themselves, for instance. It is to put on a show. It is a job. It is entertainment. My life is not entertainment. The two couldn't be further away from each other or any more different.

The image highlighted in the article I posted is a pretty damn good example between the differences between a transsexual woman and a drag queen.



There are trans drag people, so there can be overlap, and not all trans people dream of being pretty divas, but the whole "we can use it because,"this is like jay-z being mad at Kanye for calling him nicca" (Ru actually said this) is bullshit.

[Phoenix Dark]

But don't more trans people look like the person on the left than Carmen? With less "show-y" makeup of course, but still.

[Himu]

Carmen left, Ru middle, Bianca right. And no. Most trans people look like Carmen - despite the breast implants and the diva look.  For the most part, they are trying to blend into society, not be extravagant for show.

[ZephyrFate]

I've never considered drag as a part of the transgender umbrella. It isn't like cross dressing so the person can feel good about themselves, for instance. It is to put on a show. It is a job. It is entertainment. My life is not entertainment. The two couldn't be further away from each other or any more different.

The image highlighted in the article I posted is a pretty damn good example between the differences between a transsexual woman and a drag queen.

(Image removed from quote.)

There are trans drag people, so there can be overlap, and not all trans people dream of being pretty divas, but the whole "we can use it because,"this is like jay-z being mad at Kanye for calling him nicca" (Ru actually said this) is bullshit.

I didn't say transgender umbrella. I said trans umbrella. This encompasses transvestism, transgender, and transsexual. And I find it hilarious that your only proof of the differences between those people in the trans umbrella is physical appearance, when you of all people know that being trans- is more than just how you outwardly display yourself, and that many people who are trans don't undergo the process to change their biological sex.

And, yes, I would consider a drag queen who fully inhabits a female persona in their drag (i.e., goes by female pronouns, etc.) to be expressing a transgender side of themselves.

I would go as far to say that when drag queens started becoming a face of the gay community that they were the first open expression of trans- identity in the community. I think the LGBT community as a whole owes a lot to drag queens, actually.

[ZephyrFate]

RuPaul is definitely right about one thing -- the LGBT movement is working hard to turn against itself. When we're pinning RuPaul to some mythical board of enemies akin to, say, the National Organization for Marriage, you know the movement is going south.

[Himu]

Naw

[Himu]

The lgbt movement isn't tearing itself apart at all. In fact, it's getting closer. Especially as more people start to realize it's more than gays included. Ru is just being Ru. And Ru using the word cheeseburger despite people objecting to it helps feed the in-fighting itself. In other words, Ru should shut the fuck up.

I'm fine with gays. I love gays that are supportive and I fucking love drag as an art form. But sometimes it's harder being the asians of the lgbt, in that no one really cares. Thankfully that's changing, but it's hard and very annoying sometimes, especially around pride month when trans pride is often ignored.

[brawndolicious]

I didn't expect to come and get the season 6 winner spoiled (just started season 5). I don't think the word cheeseburger has as much venom as other slurs for minorities but I can't see a person with irrational anti-trans views using any other word to describe them.

[Phoenix Dark]

T>L>B>G

 

[Broseidon]

quiet, chaser

[ZephyrFate]

G > Phoenix Dark

[Himu]

Somehow missed this piece in trans advocate.

http://www.transadvocate.com/taco-ru-paul-cheeseburgers-need-to-get-stronger_n_13725.htm

Goddamit. I hate word filters and censoring of all kinds. In the URL, change taco to f aggot without the space.

[Yeti]

Just got a news alert that Medicare covers sex change surgeries now

[Raban]

[TVC15]

T>L>B>G

 

Dude, lesbians and bisexuals are definitely on the bottom of the pile because bisexual people don't really exist and lesbianism ends when college does. The L and B are definitely the ones that need to be jammed into the fuck dumpster.  Transgenders need to suck it up and understand that there are 2 letters below them.

[ZephyrFate]

Bisexual people don't exist... lol

[Raban]

Dude, lesbians and bisexuals are definitely on the bottom of the pile because bisexual people don't really exist and lesbianism ends when college does. The L and B are definitely the ones that need to be jammed into the fuck dumpster.  Transgenders need to suck it up and understand that there are 2 letters below them.

[Himu]

lesbianism is over!

[benjipwns]

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/379188/laverne-cox-not-woman-kevin-d-williamson

The phenomenon of the transgendered person is a thoroughly modern one, not in the sense that such conditions did not exist in the past — Cassius Dio relates a horrifying tale of an attempted sex-change operation — but because we in the 21st century have regressed to a very primitive understanding of reality, namely the sympathetic magic described by James George Frazer in The Golden Bough. The obsession with policing language on the theory that language mystically shapes reality is itself ancient — see the Old Testament — and sympathetic magic proceeds along similar lines, using imitation and related techniques as a means of controlling reality. The most famous example of this is the voodoo doll. If an effigy can be made sufficiently like the reality it is intended to represent, then it becomes, for the mystical purposes at hand, a reality in its own right. The infinite malleability of the postmodern idea of “gender,” as opposed to the stubborn concreteness of sex, is precisely the reason the concept was invented. For all of the high-academic theory attached to the question, it is simply a mystical exercise in rearranging words to rearrange reality. Facebook now has a few score options for describing one’s gender or sex, and no doubt they will soon match the number of names for the Almighty in one of the old mystery cults.

Regardless of the question of whether he has had his genitals amputated, Cox is not a woman, but an effigy of a woman.

Postmodern "gender" annihilated

Comments!

Th_Ph • a day ago

But having a culture organized around the elevation of unreality over reality in the service of Eros, who is a sometimes savage god, is not only irrational but antirational.

This is the heart of the matter. We can't give an inch in this battle and those who lobby for bending reality to accommodate the fantasies of the trans-lobby should be ridiculed savagely. What is at stake is a consensus over reality itself.

Buddy199 • a day ago
You might honestly believe you're Jesus or Napoleon. Everybody else can politely defer to you as Jesus or Napoleon. But that doesn't make you Jesus or Napoleon.

bloodredinabluestate • a day ago
I just can't figure out why we are supposed to unconditionally accept--nay, wholeheartedly embrace-- a man's decision to chop off body parts because he sincerely believes that he is a woman, when if that same man sincerely believed that he was a cat, we would be getting him psychiatric help.

Shots fired at furries.

zigfreed • 11 hours ago
The kids in China and India are going to learn to be scientists and engineers and ours are going to learn to sit around questioning what sex they are.

Talisker • a day ago
It has seriously gotten to the point that I am worried that if I see a transgender person or someone whose gender is ambiguous and look at them for a second too long that I will be instantly vilified. That is how oppressive this culture is. Sometimes you can't even tell what the delusion is that you're supposed to buy into.

MICROAGGRESSION!

tanarur • a day ago
The fact that allegedly serious people can make the claim that this is America's next civil rights frontier just shows how decadent and unserious America has become as a nation. The only doubts I still have are will it be Mad Max, or a Clockwork Orange? All kidding aside, history shows that people who become as frivolous and unserious as America has become are not around for long.

[Raban]

I kinda want to write a rebuttal to that article, but it's so obviously sensationalist that I'm not sure I should bother.

[Himu]

It is June 1. PRIDE!!!!!

http://m.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/05/30/presidential-proclamation-lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-transgender-pride-mon

[thisismyusername]

It is June 1. PRIDE!!!!!

http://m.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/05/30/presidential-proclamation-lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-transgender-pride-mon

Old.

Though in the relevant topic. I'd cross-post from the GAF thread, but whatever.

[Himu]

It is June 1. PRIDE!!!!!

http://m.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/05/30/presidential-proclamation-lesbian-gay-bisexual-and-transgender-pride-mon

Old.

Though in the relevant topic. I'd cross-post from the GAF thread, but whatever.

Huh?

[thisismyusername]

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=39747.msg1870850#msg1870850

I'm just messing with you about posting about it first.

[Himu]

Why would you post that in the gaf thread? Oh well.

[ZephyrFate]

This is a really good article that I think Himuro should really read w/r/t word policing and the trans* movement: http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/06/02/engaging-the-t/

[Himu]

"lliamson notes how Laverne Cox, appearing as a trans person on the cover of Time, nonetheless refused to answer a question about whether she had had her genitals reassigned as too “invasive.” "

Stopped reading there.

“I am rather disturbed by the fact that so many people—who are neither medical professionals nor trans themselves—would want to hear all of the gory details regarding transsexual physical transformations, or would feel that they have any right to ask us about the state of our genitals.” - Julia Serano

[Himu]

Have you been ass fucked today, Zephyr?

Did you suck a guys cock today?

Did you get AIDS today?

Are those questions too invasive?

That op-ed is hot air and bullshit. The fact you think I should read it is offensive.

[ZephyrFate]

1. Nope
2. Yes
3. Nope, I'm on PrEP

They are not. The fact is that the gay community is asked these questions all the time. But I don't think we've been afraid to answer them. Feel free and be offended all you want. I'm as much of a trans* ally as there can be, but I'm willing to concede the fact that the movement is better off not throwing tacks out for its allies to step on just because.

Though it amuses me that you stopped reading when the author was quoting another ignorant person and spends the article actually critiquing how off-base that dude's argument was. It's a really, really weird place to stop reading an article.

[Raban]

Yeah I'm kinda with Zephyr and the pretense of that article. I don't really get the extreme hostility coming out of transpeople on the internet and at large. I think people that ask about my privates are weird and dunb, but it's not some abhorrent act of prying into my life. I just take it at face value and see it as curiosity. Better that they ask that question politely than fear/misunderstand me and say shit like "shove what's left of your dick into your mouth" etc.

Of course every transperson will feel differently about this line of questioning, but I side with the author of that article. Focus on being open and educating the ignorant. I'd rather look like a fool for being kind to an ignorant asshole than come off looking not much better than said asshole.

[Himu]

The fact that people are willing to forego basic human etiquette and demand they know the status of someone's genitals is dehumanizing and bullshit. If we're dating? Sure thing, I'll let you know before the first date if I feel safe enough that you won't break my fucking neck. Doctor? Sure, thing. Trans friends? Hell yeah. They'll always be in the know. But some random journalist? The fuck? The idea is laughable, and falls into the inherent misoygny thrown at trans women. I certainly don't see such questions fired back at trans men. Likely because trans men are less visible and have less of a need for community than trans women, but all the same. I was watching a transgender documentary once and they covered female to male bottom surgery for 5 seconds. Just mentioned it briefly. They have an entire 10-15 minute section dedicated to male to female surgery bottom surgery later in the doc. That's when I turned it off. They even go through the gory bits and show all the details and snipping.

People just can't get the fuck over that someone would ever want to lose a penis and want something seen as inferior - a vagina - so they have to know the status, even going past basic manners and social etiquette to find out, but no, the cheeseburgers are the ones in the wrong despite the masses treating us an inhuman people who couldn't possibly have feelings, so let's talk about getting your "dick chopped off".

Fuck.



That.

[Himu]

I'm fine with people being ignorant and legitimately interested, but I have no patience for the mollycoddling theatrics that is the suggestion that people NEED to know about Laverne Cox's genital status.

[Raban]

People just can't get the fuck over that someone would ever want to lose a penis and want something seen as inferior - a vagina - so they have to know the status, even going past basic manners and social etiquette to find out, but no, the cheeseburgers are the ones in the wrong despite the masses treating us an inhuman people who couldn't possibly have feelings, so let's talk about getting your "dick chopped off".

I don't wanna get into a spat with you but this seems like a strawman. How do you explain the way that FTM recieve just as much if not more stigmatic treatment from the public?

EDIT: whatever you were watching probably didn't show much of the FTM gender reassignment because it's still very primitive and has a fraction of the historical background that the procedure for MTF does.

[ZephyrFate]

The thing is, by not ever fielding those questions -- by actively discouraging them, by calling them misogynistic or transphobic or hateful, you're silencing the discourse. The conversation ends. No one learns anything. The person who is so focused on your genital surgery hasn't suddenly become less immature, less biased, or less ignorant. The world keeps turning, but that person stays the same.

It is a sad thing that a lot of the questions thrown at trans women shift towards what happened to their dick, if they opted for surgery. It's tied up in misogyny, it's also tied up in patriarchy (why ever would you throw away the penis, reigning king of the genitals in human history? etc.), and it's horrible. But I don't think every person who ever asks you a question about it is doing so with an agenda.

MUCH of my life when conversing with straight people after telling them I'm gay has been spent dispelling notions and ideas of what they think gay love is like, what they think gay sex is like. But I'm not a sex negative person. If someone wants to know if I've sucked an 8'' dick, I'll tell them so. It's not invasive. It's a dumb question, but I don't care. But I'm not going to stop with just my answer. I will follow it up with, "why do you care so much about my sex life? Why does it matter?" And a good discourse can start from there. I've helped straight people change their attitude towards gay men and divorce the notion that the only reason we're gay is because gay sex is awesome. Being gay, hell, *sexuality* in general is so much more than what goes where or how <insert sexual act> works.

Laverne is right in that focusing trans* discussion on sex reassignment, particularly of trans women, objectifies them. She is, however, perpetuating a common trope in the trans* community by completely never ever talking about that issue. It's not a universal one in the trans* community, many don't ever go through the process. But the ones that do can only help the movement by being willing to talk about it to some degree, even to a random reporter, by acknowledging context.

The conversation is never going to come off as anything more than radio silence if you're unwilling to broach the subject. Would the gay movement have come as far if we completely shut off our private lives from everyone else? One of the things I enjoy about being gay + meeting other gay people is that there is an openness about what sex is and that there's no shame in it, no matter what you're doing.

[Himu]

No, they don't. People can wrap their minds around wanting to be a man. People like Buck Angel were icons long before the recent attention trans women are receiving. That doesn't mean all trans men receive a dap and a hug from their loved ones about it, and many go through a lot, just as much more than trans women. But society as a whole? Are you kidding me?

But my point was not to play minority gymnastics.

[Himu]

The thing is, by not ever fielding those questions -- by actively discouraging them, by calling them misogynistic or transphobic or hateful, you're silencing the discourse. The conversation ends. No one learns anything. The person who is so focused on your genital surgery hasn't suddenly become less immature, less biased, or less ignorant. The world keeps turning, but that person stays the same.

It is a sad thing that a lot of the questions thrown at trans women shift towards what happened to their dick, if they opted for surgery. It's tied up in misogyny, it's also tied up in patriarchy (why ever would you throw away the penis, reigning king of the genitals in human history? etc.), and it's horrible. But I don't think every person who ever asks you a question about it is doing so with an agenda.

MUCH of my life when conversing with straight people after telling them I'm gay has been spent dispelling notions and ideas of what they think gay love is like, what they think gay sex is like. But I'm not a sex negative person. If someone wants to know if I've sucked an 8'' dick, I'll tell them so. It's not invasive. It's a dumb question, but I don't care. But I'm not going to stop with just my answer. I will follow it up with, "why do you care so much about my sex life? Why does it matter?" And a good discourse can start from there. I've helped straight people change their attitude towards gay men and divorce the notion that the only reason we're gay is because gay sex is awesome. Being gay, hell, *sexuality* in general is so much more than what goes where or how <insert sexual act> works.

Laverne is right in that focusing trans* discussion on sex reassignment, particularly of trans women, objectifies them. She is, however, perpetuating a common trope in the trans* community by completely never ever talking about that issue. It's not a universal one in the trans* community, many don't ever go through the process. But the ones that do can only help the movement by being willing to talk about it to some degree, even to a random reporter, by acknowledging context.

The conversation is never going to come off as anything more than radio silence if you're unwilling to broach the subject. Would the gay movement have come as far if we completely shut off our private lives from everyone else? One of the things I enjoy about being gay + meeting other gay people is that there is an openness about what sex is and that there's no shame in it, no matter what you're doing.

I agree with a lot of this. But the first point in the op-ed is that he's frustrated that Laverne Cox won't tell someone if she still has a dick. It's rude, depreciating, and flat out dehumanizing. If the author would start his argument on a more solid arguing platform, I'd be fine with the article. I agree with the articles pretense, but when you start it by bringing up genitals, you're not going to appeal to anyone's sensibilities.

[Positive Touch]

yeah guys be an open book to satisfy my curiosity regarding intensely personal questions that could easily be answered with a google search

and remember if you really cared youd do it on my schedule, not yours

[ZephyrFate]

Admittedly, the start of the article is rocky. It's a little narrow, and focuses on one particular point a touch too much. But the idea he's extrapolating from it is that the trans* community is extremely reactionary, beyond even Tumblr levels at times. It restricts the conversation because it doesn't allow cisgendered people a way to connect when every word they say is set upon hot coals.

The point he's making it is that while it's not the entirety of the trans discussion, genital reassignment is nonetheless a significant part of it. It's the most transformative aspect of being a trans person, if one opts to go that route. It's not an easy task, and it's a long process to complete. But somewhere, at some point, questions about genitals gotta be answered. People are not universally intelligent. America is paradoxically on a downward trend of anti-intellectualism at the same time that civil rights has seen an upsurge. People will ask dumb questions. The sooner they're answered and not treated as an attack, the better.

I'm not asking anyone to be an open book. Explain your life to someone on your terms. But your spokespeople will have to have some degree of openness or your movement will be seen as one-sided.

[brawndolicious]

Unlike being gay, being transgendered often comes with physical transformations from hormone therapy and surgery. I think that's the part that makes the average person confused on what exactly to think regarding sexual identity and why trans people weren't just comfortable with the body they had. I think if somebody started asking questions about how the physical process works, they might actually be wondering more why you felt you are trans and if you could explain that and see if they actually want to understand, then they can do the rest of the research themselves.

[Himu]

The transgender community can be reactionary, true. But when you want to frame such an argument I think tact is very important. I agree with the articles premise, but it has very few examples to prove its point. He thinks Laverne Cox not answering a genital question is proof that the transgender community just aren't willing to cooperate despite a bombard of recent transgender figures coming out of the woodwork to act as voices for our community. But apparently that's not enough, he MUST know Laverne's genital status. And I should take him seriously, why?

[Himu]

WHY DO ALL THESE GAY MEN KEEP FLIRTING WITH ME?

I'm on the cusp of boy mode failure and all these gay men and men in general keep looking at me. I am a fat fuck. WHAT IS GOING ON. Someone pleassssse explain this shit!!!

Today I went to church because my mom was singing in the choir and I like to support my family when it comes to church even if I don't believe in it. Anyways, point being, these people haven't seen me in a longggg time. Some lady in the choir was like,"I have a son who looks like you, why don't you guys talk some time?" And just as I gave her the confused,"huh?" Look she gave me a wink. WHAT.

The gay piano player - EVERY BLACK CHURCH HAS ONE OKAY? - was flirty as shit today before I left. He had his hand on his hip and he didn't give a regular goodbye. He gave one of those cute girly goodbyes where you move your fingers like you're jamming on a saxophone chord.

The other day I was at a job fair and all these dudes just STARE at me. One smiled. It's so odd. I'm used to feeling invisible except when race is involved so this is just ODD.
I went to a cafe and the server (also gay!!!) was like,"how old are you?" "28" "what?! I figured you just graduated high school!" And proceeded to put his hand on my shoulder.

What. The. FUCK!

EXPLAIN.

[Phoenix Dark]

WHY DO ALL THESE GAY MEN KEEP FLIRTING WITH ME?

I'm on the cusp of boy mode failure and all these gay men and men in general keep looking at me. I am a fat fuck. WHAT IS GOING ON. Someone pleassssse explain this shit!!!

Today I went to church because my mom was singing in the choir and I like to support my family when it comes to church even if I don't believe in it. Anyways, point being, these people haven't seen me in a longggg time. Some lady in the choir was like,"I have a son who looks like you, why don't you guys talk some time?" And just as I gave her the confused,"huh?" Look she gave me a wink. WHAT.

The gay piano player - EVERY BLACK CHURCH HAS ONE OKAY? - was flirty as shit today before I left. He had his hand on his hip and he didn't give a regular goodbye. He gave one of those cute girly goodbyes where you move your fingers like you're jamming on a saxophone chord.

The other day I was at a job fair and all these dudes just STARE at me. One smiled. It's so odd. I'm used to feeling invisible except when race is involved so this is just ODD.
I went to a cafe and the server (also gay!!!) was like,"how old are you?" "28" "what?! I figured you just graduated high school!" And proceeded to put his hand on my shoulder.

What. The. FUCK!

EXPLAIN.

Sounds like that piano player was pretty openly gay. I've seen plenty of gay dudes at black churches (in the choir/music section, of course) but only one that was very flamboyant. Usually they have that black gay glaze look in their eyes (see: Tyler Perry, Eric Sermon, etc) but act reserved so as not to draw attention to it.

Anyway, doesn't it make sense that some gay dudes would be showing interest?

[Himu]

Gay dudes have always found interest in me. That's not the problem. What confuses me is higher frequency, and the fact that men now stare at me - gay or straight. I knew this would eventually happen but I didn't think it'd happen that fast.

[Madrun Badrun]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/transgender-pianist-shunned-in-u-s-gets-encore-in-edmonton-1.2668923

[benjipwns]

How does Dan Savage always wind up in these kerfuffles*: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2014/06/07/about-that-hate-crime-i-committed-at-university-of-chicago

LGBTQITSLFA

dat category

*Rhetorical question.

[Himu]

On point Mr. Savage. Give them cheeseburgers that work.

[ZephyrFate]

Dan Savage is a man who is at once incredibly intelligent about sex and helping relationships out, yet extremely tactless when it comes to interacting with people in real life.

Calling it a hate crime is definitely a symptom of our society's newfound reaction to "cheeseburger" spiralling infinitely out of control, however. Jesus christ.

Really, the worst part about Dan Savage I've found is that he's actually superbly biphobic. It's probably the only -phobia he really has.

[Junpei the Tracer!]

LGBTQITSLFA

I'm a lot more interested in what these could possibly mean, I know I can google but that would just take the fun outta of it.

[Squiddy]

H stands for Heteros, right?

Out of the way sexual orientation minorities, we're settling in this thread.