Puzzle and Dragons

[magus]

update is out so we have stat

Egyptian Ultimates

F/F Horus - +100 HP,+50 ATK
F/L Horus - -200 HP,+500 ATK,- 570 rcv - last awaken changed from wood resist to time extend
W/W Isis - +100 ATK,+100 RCV + Healer Subtype
W/L Isis - +200 HP,-200 RCV + Physical Subtype - enchance fire orb changed to enchance light orb,enchance wood orb changed to bind resist

New God Stats

Yamato Takeru - 3073/1251/428
Andromeda - 2985/1138/518
Perseus - 3145/1244/409
Sun Wukong - 3028/1240/446
Pandora - 2948/1224/479

they all have the same awakening - boost (their element) row,heal bind and skill boost

Fruit Dragons

all these guys have Wood as their sub element and an amazing total of 9 awakening each,skill recover 3000 hp and change orb of certain color into heart orbs,leader skill is x2 hp and rcv (eat your heart out lucifer!)

Strawberry Dragon - 2165/971/358
Blueberry Dragon - 2185/946/365
Melon Dragon - 2218/922/372
Lemon Dragon - 2155/951/372
Plum Dragon - 2125/933/392

Awakening: Enchance (Element) Orb x 3,(Element) Resist x2,Enchance (Element) Row x2,Skill Boost x2

Except lemon dragon who trades one enchance orb for auto heal and plum dragon which trade one enchance orb for time extend

New Ultimate Evo that require the new descend

Green Ripper - +250 HP,+130 ATK,+80 RCV - gain fire sub attribute,gain balance sub-type
Light Ripper - -350 HP,+50 ATK,+170 RCV - gain wood sub attribute,gain healer (!) sub-type,2nd awakening changed from resist light to resist wood
Leviathan (Late Bloomer water dragon) - +1100 HP,+200 ATK,gain water sub attribute,gain physical sub-type
Tiamat (Late bloomer wood dragon) - +600 HP,+250 ATK,+70 RCV,gain wood sub attribute,gain balanced sub-type

on note,fire fruit can be used to skill up red sonia,wood fruit can be used to skill up green sonia

Batman monster getting awakenings

D/W Batman - Enchance Dark Orb,Enchance Water Orb,Enchance Dark Row,2-way attack
D/D Batman - Enchance Dark Orb,Blind Resist,Enchance Dark Row
D/L Batman - Enchance Dark Orb,Enchance Light Orb,Enchance Dark Row,Bind Resist
Robin - Enchance Wood Orb,2-way attack,Time Extend
Catwoman - Enchance Fire Row,Auto Heal,Skill boost
Joker - Enchance Dark orb,Jammer Resist

Baby Tamadra getting introduced

no idea on what it does,some people says that he has a random chance of awakening skill and another are saying it deletes skill

[Madrun Badrun]

Will the batman rem ever come back or am I forever without a DL batman?

[CajoleJuice]

I think it'll be back. Somebody who knows what they're talking about back me up please.

Gonna wait until the Pick Your Own Godfest to start up my Android account weeee

[Human Snorenado]

Yeah, just pick whichever god you want to base your team around and reroll until you get it.

[Mandark]

Any word on how you get the fruit dragons?  I'm expecting them to be REM-only.

Dragons have been a lot less useful than gods for a while now, but one upside is that they were easy to awaken, since you could farm them from a dungeon in their final forms.  I doubt Gungho's going to let players get a 9-time awoken dragon almost immediately though.  Will give more of a push for people to stone on that new dungeon and get tamadras.

[magus]

new update hitting between this evening and tommorow,comes with japanese ultimate evolution,vampire and gigas ultimate evolution and zeus/hera/yomi/vamp descend ultimate evolution... guess we can expect the twinlit dungeon for this christmas

[Madrun Badrun]

I just fed my siren 40 water goblins without a single skill up FML.

[CajoleJuice]

I just fed my siren 40 water goblins without a single skill up FML.

well, there is no water goblin. blue goblin or marine goblin. the former has no skill. soooo

[Madrun Badrun]

OK, so, I just fed 3 marine goblins to my siren and no skill up.  Damn it.

[magus]

i think it took me around 20 goblins to max skill megalodran (who share the same skill as siren) you can get a lot of them if you just do OOH

[magus]

Game has been datamined and they discovered new Batman monster like bane and deathstroke so i guess Batman collaboration is returning for christmas

pics

Fire - Firefly




Water - Solomon Grundy




Wood - Copperhead




Light (Light/Wood?) - Bane




Dark (Dark/Light) - Deathstroke




no info on whatever these are monster in a new dungeon or new dropable in the batcha machine

other misc info

R/L horus stat being reconsidered since they nerfed his recovery hard
Green ripper ultimate resist being boost to 55%
Light ripper ultimate resist also covering wood

Leviathan ultimate getting a weaker version of andromeda LS (connect 6 water for x3 atk)
Fafnir ultimate getting a weaker version of perseus LS (connect 6 wood for x3 atk)

EDIT: turns out they are skill-up monster so there is a new batman dungeon with them coming probably

Firefly

LS - halve fire damage
AS - same as kagutsuchi

Solomon Grundy

LS - may survive when hp reach 0
AS - same as hermes

Copperhead

LS - 2x atk when 3+ combo
AS - same as lilith

Bane

LS - 1.5 HP & ATK for light attribute
AS - same as ra

Deathstroke

LS - 3x atk when water,light and dark attack together (could be actualy usefull)
AS - same as blue odin

also coming

- gungho collaboration dungeon... comes with skillup for valkyrie,bastet,amon,anubis,isis,drall and toytops and a bunch of other dragons you don't care about
- another noel dragon
- free tamadra's

[magus]

and here's a video of the new descend,apparently everything will insta-murder you (there is even a monster that deals 1 million damage upon attacking)



in other news the HxH collaboration has been released and it has tons of cool monster like delay for green,two new x4 atk leader and a smaller version of ra that can trigger on both 5 color or 4 color and hearts... shame we are never going to see it here

the return of the batman collaboration for this monday has also been confirmed

[Brehvolution]

A guy at work was saying this game's average income is about $4M dollars a day in Japan alone and more than 10% of the total population of Japan plays the game. Anyone else hear of any numbers like that?

[Madrun Badrun]

I've heard above 1M in Japan.  There was a reddit thread about it on gaming I believe, 

[Human Snorenado]

New event info:

■① Daily Log-in Bonus
12/23 - 1/5 - 1 Magic Stone
※Bonuses will be distributed as late as 3:59 AM (PST) the following day.

■② Look out for Santa's Helpers! Our Noel Dragon Dungeon has some happy little surprises in store for those that wish to look for gifts! However, you can only run it once, and each egg has its own message that results in something different! Make sure to choose the right one!

■③ Happy anniversary to all of our Android users! It's been just over a year since we launched on the Google Play store. To commorate this, we are bringing back everyone's favorite defense-shredding Droidragon! This mysterious visitor isn't just adorable, he's incredibly useful for beating high defense Monsters!

Once you have yours evolved, don't forget to use Ultimate Fusion to unlock its full potential: http://tinyurl.com/mjv36jg

■④ Special Event Dungeon Schedule:
12/23 - The Goddess Descended!
12/23 - 12/25 - Tower of Jewel
12/23 - 12/27 - Santa's Helpers!
12/23 - 1/5 - Batman Collab
12/23 - 1/5 - Mysterious Visitors
12/24 - Hera-Ur Descended!
12/25 - Athena Descended!
12/26 - Sword of Flames
12/27 - Scarlet Snake Princess
12/28 - 12/30 - Dragon in Motley
12/28 - ?
12/29 - Zeus-Dios Descended!
12/30 - Hera Descended
12/31 - 1/1 -
1/1 - Zeus Descended!
1/2 - Dragon Guardian
1/3 - 1/5 - Lightless Devil's Nest
1/4 - Takeminakata Descends!
1/5 - Hera-Is Descended!

■⑤ Awesome Daily Bonuses
Pal Egg Events:
　12/23 - 12/27 - King Metal/Jewel Dragons
2x King appearance rates for the Metal/Gold and Jewel Dragons
[We will also have a special visits from the Pengdra Village, Super Metal Dragons, and a Super Jewel King Dragon] (this event sometimes changes)
2x Skill Up rate
Other special bonuses

Godfest info is on the way!

That's a lot of free stones.

[magus]

hopefull i can finaly score some of the more advanced descend monster with my kirin team

[Human Snorenado]

I'm going to tackle Athena. Not sure if I can kill RGG on stage 1 without stoning it, but I don't care. I have Izanagi, might as well get a light based Athena team going.

[Madrun Badrun]

Going to try Hera.  Need to get to level 84 though so I can put lilith on the team. 

[Madrun Badrun]

Got two Tamas in a row today, suck it bitches. 

[Madrun Badrun]

8 fucking batman REMs and ALL fucking catwomen.

[Human Snorenado]

8 fucking batman REMs and ALL fucking catwomen.

[Madrun Badrun]

I;m so fucking mad.  Tell my mom to sue Japan if i have an aneurism. 

[Madrun Badrun]

fuck I didn't level up my Snow Globe Dragon Bleu before feeding it, Got a single fucking level out of it.  fuck. fuck fuck. 

[magus]

gee and i tought fucking two heroes thrice and losing 150 stamina was a mistake

why didn't you keep it anyway? it's not that strong but it's still your only source of a x2 hp&rcv skill until you get the archangel of that relative color (or i guess the fruit dragon of the relative color for when they finaly get released)

[Madrun Badrun]

Because I thought I was going to get my lead's level into the high 90s 

[magus]

Because I thought I was going to get my lead's level into the high 90s 

you should level all of your monster evenly,it takes only 1 million and half for a monster to reach level 70 but it takes 2 million and half for the remaining 30 levels... some monsters do tend to get better stat in the higher levels than they get on the lower but the general rule of thumb is that after level 70 you are fighting an uphill battle

anyway they have announced that ra is getting not one but two ultimate evolution!




the L/L will have his leader skill will be changed so that you get x4 if you match 4 colors and hearts and x7 if you match 5 colors and hearts and will require an angelit,the L/D one will remain the same and get a stat buff

R/L horus is getting a small buff in the form of +200 attack and +90 rcv (they removed all of his recovery which is pretty huge since his recovery is quite big) and also double ultimate are coming for both archangel and alraune

[Human Snorenado]

I can only guess what stupidity Lucifer will get with his ultimate evos.

[pancakesandsex]

8 fucking batman REMs and ALL fucking catwomen.

[magus]

tried hera-ur with a level 50 kirin team,i actualy had a pretty good try and went as far as ifrit,i duked it out with ifrit until he was down to 25% of his health and then died when i couldn't heal fast enough... i would have stoned if the drop at the end was guaranted but i was playing on legend

my biggest problem were the ogre,if i nuke then one of the ogre goes into rage mode and if i don't none of them die and it's even worse,there doesn't seems to be a way where everybody is happy

[magus]

i tried athena today and i basicaly had the same problem i had yesterday,my team just doesn't have enough hp/heal fast enough to take 8,000 damage for more than 4 turn in a row... i guess maybe i'm just underleveled? at least this can actualy be fixed with tons of dragons and pengdra

[Human Snorenado]

I ran Athena today... fucked up in a couple of respects. I had 3 stoned (all on Gigas) to get to Athena, then was fine. I double gravity morning star her down, then grind her some more... till everything comes back up. I *think* I have it... so I fire off two more gravities and a a morning star.  NOPE. Left juuuuuuust enough hp left on her to keep her alive, so she starts pounding me for 100k each turn. No point in fucking with it anymore by then, sigh.

[Madrun Badrun]

Bought 30 stones but them all into inventory and friends because I felt like using them for REM was cheating and gambling. 

[CajoleJuice]

i'm gonna have enough stones to pull 8 or 9 times on the next godfest i swear to god if i get jack shit again i am fucking done

[Madrun Badrun]

fuck how long have you been saving stones?

[CajoleJuice]

not even that long. i got my 100 day log-in 10 stone bonus recently.

[magus]

i'm gonna have enough stones to pull 8 or 9 times on the next godfest i swear to god if i get jack shit again i am fucking done

if you get jack shit again you could try spending some stone on descend... a lot of descend monster comes with usefull leader skill

zeus - x3 attack when hp is full (tough no use for you since you have D/L batman,can be upgraded to 3.5x attack later or someone with an effect similiar to goemon for dark monsters thanks to a special descend)
satan - x3.5 attack for devils (tough you get no recovery)
hera-ur - x3 attack for devils (and unlike satan you can actual heal)
athena - x3 attack for gods (combine nicely with apollo)
takeminekata - x3.5 attack for physical when hp is below 80% (also a good pal of apollo)
goemon - x5 attack when hp is below 20% (this is incredibly powerfull but also dangerous)

if you have vampire the latest update turns him into a decent leader by giving him x2 atk/x2 rcv like loki and you can even use somebody else lucifer with it... take-minekata is coming back next week too

[CajoleJuice]

definitely gonna try some descends for the first time. thanks for the rundown.

[Bebpo]

Starting this game now.  I remember magus saying something about you need your first monster's stats to be ? or else you should start over until you get a good first monster.  What's the deal with this?

[Madrun Badrun]

Reroll until you get a god.  Do this today so you still get free stones until the end of the event.  Rerolling is a bitch but you will feel bad later if you don't do it.   

[Human Snorenado]

Starting this game now.  I remember magus saying something about you need your first monster's stats to be ? or else you should start over until you get a good first monster.  What's the deal with this?

Short answer: don't start until next week's godfest, which is player voted upon.

Long answer:

http://www.puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=6337

[pancakesandsex]

Hey can you active folks all add me (tell me what your names are so I know to accept)

315 045 209

[magus]

bebs if you start today,you are still in time to get one of the holiday dragons,these guys give a lot of XP when sacked and give you a multipler to your hp and recovery which help you survive

otherwise,do what creepy said... basicaly you get new monster either by clearing special dungeons or out of this slot machine,the slot machine can give you 3 star (egg with a star on it),4 star (silver egg) or 5 star (egg) monsters... the 5 star monsters represent gods,some of them sucks and some of them are crazy strong... the first monster is free so before starting you can pull as many times as you want as long as you have the patience to re-do the tutorial over and over... so you want to restart until your free monster is a god and possibly one of the crazy strong one,if you check the guide creepy posted you can see what is good and what is not

now the thing is that around every 2 week a special event called godfest happens and on these event two pantheon of gods for a total of 10 gods become more common on the slot machine (so say... all the norse and japanese god) but since it's christmas the next godfest will be special and the list of gods will be handpicked by the player,since it's the player picking it has like all the best monster making the day this event happen truly the best day ever to start

godfest usualy happens on saturday so it will be either tomorrow or next week,they usualy announce before when a godfest is coming but since they haven't, it will probably be next week... you could try starting today,forcing a god out of the REM even if the odds are against you,get the holiday dragon,clear the first few dungeons (which will give you another 2-3 free pulls) and then use your free pulls on the godfest day,and if you get nothing you can always restart again

or if it's too much hassle just wait for the godfest day,the holiday dragon is usefull but not really necessary

EDIT: i just got my first skillup on echidna,after 5 whole days of scarlet snake princess... this is truly a christmas miracle

[Human Snorenado]

Bebs- Godfest looks like it's confirmed for next week on New Year's Day, so I'd start then. Also, you'll be able to get a free Tamadra- it will look like it's a good idea to sell or feed it for exp right away, but unless your god is at it's final evolution, DON'T DO THAT. Read up on 'em and you'll see what I mean.

[Human Snorenado]

Fuuuuuck yeah, just did the math and I'll be getting my 100 day bonus on my non-IAP account before the godfest, should have 30+ stones saved up. GIVE DADDY SOMETHING NICE.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Having multiple accounts for this #dead

[magus]

bebs basicaly here's how the game works and why you want to start when this thing start,when you make a team you select a monster that give you a bonus called leader skill and then pick somebody else monster to provide a bonus too (most of the time the same monster so that the same bonus gets applied twice) everything in this game hits fucking hard and has millions and millions of hp and will often either one shot or two shot you so basicaly you want a leader skills that multiply your attack as high as possible so you murder them before they murder you or have so many defensive bonus that you can actualy roll with the punches,of course each monster has different leader skills but a lot of the monster above have amazing leader skills... basicaly you can separate them in different block

do note that each monster also has an active skills that they can use after a set amount of turn (usualy around 15) so when picking a leader there is that too consider too

Attack For Colors

these monster all multiply the damage you do based on what colors you match,from smaller (therefore easiest) to biggest (therefore hardest), haku -> horus -> kirin and umi & yama

- double haku will multiply your attack by 12,25x her leader skills trigger when you match black,red and blue and her active makes it so that the board all turns into these color

- double horus will multiply your attack by 16x his leader skill trigger when you match any 4 color,horus offers the best deal between easiness to trigger and damage which is why he's so popular,he also got a recent buff where the damage increase to 20,25x when you match all 5 colors instead,his active skill turns all the fire orb into special orb that deal more damage which is allright but can be really usefull when you make a team with lot of fire monsters

- then come u&y and kirin,both of these guys get 25x when you match 4 specific color (every color except black for kirin and every color except red for u&y) kirin active skill is gravity damage,unlike final fantasy gravities here do work and since boss have huge amount of hp i don't need to tell you how usefull this is it,u&y instead turns orb he doesn't need into orbs of his color which make him slightly easier to trigger

of these horus and kirin are the one you probably want the most but u&y would be ok too and haku should be your last option

Attack For Combo

these monster increase your attack based on the number of matches you make... do note that on average i do 4-5 matches each turn

- kushinada is the easiest one,with her multipler starting at 3 matches and give 1.5x,this is pathethic but it can increases up to an amazing 10x the more matches you do as you get an extra 0.5x for each match,of course doing 7 matches is already hard and even then you'd only get 3.5x,her skill buy you an extra turn by cutting lot of damage and is awesome so she's helpfull even when not used as a leader
- then comes bastet,bastet start at 4 matches and give 2.5x,like kushinada the more matches you get the more damage you get but unlike kushinada she only caps at 4x (for a total of 16x) of course since getting higher with kushinada is praticaly impossible,bastet is usualy a better choice... bastet active turns your normal attack into area wide attack,this is pretty situational and not very good
- the last combo god would be ookunikushi which give 4x attack when making 6 match which give you no room for error but i see he's not in this godfest so no reason to waste word's on him

Type Team

all of the monsters have a type and some leader give their multipler to all monster of a certain type of these we have one in dark metatron,dark metatron is rare as fuck so don't expect her to come out

if you do get her she gives every attacker 4x when your hp fall below 80% this is an amazing skills but good attacker monster are sort of hard to come by so you might have some problem when starting... (if you do get her,go pull the batman slot machine as one of the batman is a pretty good fit for her) her skill is like horus but work on dark and light orb instead

Tank Team

these monster are there so that you can actualy survive,we have two guys here

- lucifer is the monster that everybody wants,there are a lot of monster that let you take hits in the face but lucifer come with a 300,000 damage nuke,this is a huge amount of damage and solve the biggest weakness of tank team (they can take but can't dish) best of all there are a lot of good dark monsters in the game that don't pop out of the slot machine which make him a fan favorite... do note that most recent dungeon are designed to be against him so he's an amazing addiction to your team but don't expect to be able to do everything with him

- then there is green odin,like dark metatron odin is rare as fuck so don't expect to get him... green odin cuts the damage you receive by 80% as long as your hp bar is full,if you combine this with auto-heal effect it's actualy possible to become invincible... sadly most of the more recent monster attack twice in a row which make his skill less valuable,still an amazing monster

Subs

these monster have sucky leader skills so you don't want to start with one of these but they are pretty good once you've built your team and just need extra fire power

- hades comes with gravity so he can deal tons of damage (his leader skill cut dark damage in half and can be upgraded to dark and light)
- neptune comes with poison,this can be usefull when dealing enemy with high defense or if you are running a team that focus on defense (leader skill cut water damage in half and can be upgrade to water and dark or water and light)
- venus and yomi have a skill called change the world,this give you infinite movement for 1 turn which basicaly let you sort the orb for the maximum amount of damage (venus cut light damage in half,yomi LS just sucks but she can be upgraded to a really usefull one if you defeat a really hard monster)
- orochi comes with delay's,using orochi get you 5 extra turn in a row,i don't think i need to explain why this is amazing
- lastly come blue odin... he has the biggest stat in the game and that's the only reason he's here

TL;DR version,try to get kirin,lucifer or horus... bastet,u&y or haku might be good place to start too,the other monsters are good but not really worth starting the game with... if you are lucky and get one of the super rare one (dark meta,green odin and blue odin) you might want to keep them... dark metatron is amazing but you might have an hard time using her,the green odin is good but only for certain situation and the blue odin is more of a beatstick than actual leader material but he's a damngod beatstick

[Mandark]

Gave Beelzebub a couple shots with my Kirin team today, but didn't have enough green orbs on the initial board either time to trigger the 25x bonus, and got one-shot as a result.  NOT spending stones to roll the dice on that, especially with the good Godfest coming up.  Sheesh.

[Madrun Badrun]

If I use a stone to continue does the damage I already dealt a monster stay the same?

[Human Snorenado]

If I use a stone to continue does the damage I already dealt a monster stay the same?

Yes. However, the board resets completely. (might be good or bad, depending)

[Madrun Badrun]

does it also refill my stamina?

[Madrun Badrun]

guess not. 

[magus]

ultimate CDD looks badass!




they are also changing the new gods (heroes series) leader skills so that it triggers starting from 6 orbs at 3x and then goes up the more orbs you match up to 8 orbs for 4x which should make them more usable as leaders

[Madrun Badrun]

got beat down on the second level of hera

[Human Snorenado]

Two no-stone Hera runs, two drops. Easy peazy, just takes for fucking ever with this team:

Lucifer lead/friend
Jester Dragon, Drawn Joker (max skilled)
Dark Neptune
Awoken Hera
Awoken Hera

Grind, grind, grind shit to death.

[Steve Contra]

Got my 150 day log in bonus so I have six pulls for godfest

Three healer girls, three mystic knights

[Madrun Badrun]

wait its not godfest yet right?

[magus]

yeah godfest is tomorrow

[Madrun Badrun]

[Madrun Badrun]

mystic knight, titan, peira, and YOMI mother fuckers. 

[CajoleJuice]

Venus
Titan+
Dragon Rider
Undine
Incarnation of Kirin, Sakuya
Minerva
Vampire

Is that even good? Keep in mind I don't have any of the other gods in this Godfest. I guess Sakuya's gravity skill is cool.