Author Topic: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster (Read 1661842 times)

team filler · « **Reply #7620 on:** November 22, 2019, 11:52:27 AM »

trump da gawd saving the world from US imperialism

Nintex · « **Reply #7621 on:** November 22, 2019, 01:38:36 PM »

Trump is using the age old trick to get rid of a client you don't want.
Simply give them a price they'll never pay.

1) The client accepts (this sucks, but at least you're paid 2 or 3 times your usual fee)
2) The client declines your offer and goes elsewhere (but it is their decision so no hard feelings)

Now China can use "price anchoring" every price that comes after the first offer (5 billion) will be relative.
So something like 2.5 billion is a lot but compared to 5 billion that's only 50% for pretty much the same service.

Nintex · « **Reply #7622 on:** November 22, 2019, 02:03:36 PM »

That is not Art of the Deal but business 101.

When you have a difficult or demanding client you make the price say no.
That way you clear some space for new clients or more work for better paying clients (in this case Saudi Arabia)
It's kinda weird to see it in politics though.

I wonder when Trump is going to give Germany and other countries that host US troops a similar offer.

Kara · « **Reply #7623 on:** November 22, 2019, 02:11:50 PM »

Nintex's argument rests on the position that the Republic of Korea is a client that's too demanding which is prima facie absurd to anyone who isn't an imbecile.

Nintex · « **Reply #7624 on:** November 22, 2019, 02:15:25 PM »

Having a physical troop presence in any foreign country seems sort of outdated with the drones and everything.

It used to make sense because you had to deploy troops to occupy an area and keep it under control.
Now the wars are fought on the internet, with currency devaluation and with drone strikes.

Saddam couldn't win with tanks and troops against technology in the 90's. Just imagine how such a war would play out 30 years later.

The actual combat in any recent war with NATO involvement was over within a week or less.
After that it's an insurgency or terrorism and guerrilla warfare that most nations are ill equipped to deal with.

The war on Libya lasted until the UK and France ran out of cruise missiles.

The time that you could win a war by physically marching your troops into someone elses capitol is over.
And no one wants to deal with the shit in the conquered country anyway as they have their own shit to deal with already.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7625 on:** November 22, 2019, 02:16:31 PM »

enlist in the internet corps today

Mandark · « **Reply #7626 on:** November 22, 2019, 02:23:17 PM »

We had a real life example of the deterrent power of US troop presence (and the commitment it represents) just one month ago, when Turkey moved against the Kurds only after American withdrawal.

Raist · « **Reply #7627 on:** November 22, 2019, 03:13:02 PM »

https://thebrexitparty.com/?fbclid=IwAR2aMEeVMyG92XKtdYCEWDPPu0bEZ0Jfmmh09CDaIzwXb4AXnoFUPAk5f0E

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So perhaps it was no surprise when we noticed he forgot to buy the website for The Brexit Party - his shiny new political party ego vehicle.

So we snapped up thebrexitparty.com.

Scroll forward a few months and we just received an 8-page legal letter from his corporate lawyers Wedlake Bell coming after us for copyright and intellectual property infringement. And guess what? Farage is using European law to attack us

Nintex · « **Reply #7628 on:** November 22, 2019, 05:14:16 PM »

team filler · « **Reply #7629 on:** November 22, 2019, 10:12:09 PM »

https://twitter.com/telesurenglish/status/1198062521359441920

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #7630 on:** November 23, 2019, 01:04:50 AM »

Quote from: Esch on November 22, 2019, 02:43:44 PM

I've seen a lot of weird fucking people on the internet but Dutch business owner cheerleading American imperialism while also hoping we cut the insane costs required to maintain it in a decent state has gotta be up there.

It's ok, Nintex doesn't understand what he is saying either.

team filler · « **Reply #7631 on:** November 23, 2019, 11:28:40 AM »

https://twitter.com/RaniaKhalek/status/1198267717914112000

NATIONALIZE THE BANKS AND KILL THEM

Nintex · « **Reply #7632 on:** November 23, 2019, 11:55:34 AM »

https://twitter.com/60Mins/status/1197680666814533632

team filler · « **Reply #7633 on:** November 23, 2019, 06:41:10 PM »

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1198376289746460672

team filler · « **Reply #7634 on:** November 23, 2019, 07:37:12 PM »

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1198390941314420736

team filler · « **Reply #7635 on:** November 23, 2019, 08:21:05 PM »

team filler · « **Reply #7636 on:** November 23, 2019, 08:57:32 PM »

assy was right about lula!

https://twitter.com/madanboukman/status/1198419516029575168

Kara · « **Reply #7637 on:** November 23, 2019, 09:44:40 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on November 22, 2019, 02:23:17 PM

We had a real life example of the deterrent power of US troop presence (and the commitment it represents) just one month ago, when Turkey moved against the Kurds only after American withdrawal.

As best I can tell Nintex is assuming that the "limited" warfare permitted by the current international system is something that will persist in perpetuity and not a confluence of certain variables.

Nintex · « **Reply #7638 on:** November 23, 2019, 09:51:39 PM »

Erdogan would've rolled in anyway, forcing the US to open fire on a NATO ally or decide not to.
The idea that with US backing the YPG could create some sort of Kurdish state on Turkey's border with Erdogan in power was asinine.

The entire Syria policy on the part of the US/EU has been a disaster on all accounts.

Rufus · « **Reply #7639 on:** November 23, 2019, 09:58:10 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on November 23, 2019, 09:51:39 PM

Erdogan would've rolled in anyway, forcing the US to open fire on a NATO ally or decide not to.

Did you feel it in your bum knee, or what?

Quote from: Nintex on November 23, 2019, 09:51:39 PM

The idea that with US backing the YPG could create some sort of Kurdish state on Turkey's border with Erdogan in power was asinine.

Keeping them out of Syria would have been enough, which is what this is actually about.

Kara · « **Reply #7640 on:** November 23, 2019, 10:19:38 PM »

The U.S. prohibited the SDF from participating in peace talks but we're supposed to believe there was a credible threat of Rojava statehood forcing epic genius guy Erdogan to do an invasion.

Nintex · « **Reply #7641 on:** November 24, 2019, 01:05:23 PM »

EchoRin · « **Reply #7642 on:** November 24, 2019, 10:39:44 PM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50511063

Watching football so no I won't pull out quotes.

Nintex · « **Reply #7643 on:** November 25, 2019, 01:39:50 PM »

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1199007435844988928

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1198545292280418304

Brehvolution · « **Reply #7644 on:** November 25, 2019, 03:38:07 PM »

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/mar/28/poverty-increases-among-children-and-pensioners-across-uk

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The number of children and pensioners in absolute poverty increased in 2017-18 as inflation and accommodation costs took a bigger chunk out of household finances, according to figures from the Department for Work and Pensions.

Inequality also jumped in response to rising incomes among the richest workers and the second year of a benefit freeze that hit low-incomes households, the DWP said.

Anti-poverty groups called for government action to reverse the trend, which most analysts believe has worsened since last April. They expect it to worsen further under government policies, with poverty and inequality increasing until the middle of the next decade.

UK electorate: More of that please.

team filler · « **Reply #7645 on:** November 25, 2019, 08:05:00 PM »

https://twitter.com/maduro_en/status/1199129720031522817

Raist · « **Reply #7646 on:** November 26, 2019, 12:54:18 AM »

Quote from: Esch on November 25, 2019, 07:52:07 PM

Very militant rhetoric from Jeremy. Does not seem Democratic to me

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1199002687834075138

If only somebody had started cracking down on this really hard a while ago.

Oh wait, the EU did.

Ghoul · « **Reply #7647 on:** November 26, 2019, 08:25:12 AM »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50551765?ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=news_central&ns_campaign=bbc_politics&ns_source=twitter

Teaching kids how great the empire was

Nintex · « **Reply #7648 on:** November 26, 2019, 04:53:34 PM »

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #7649 on:** November 26, 2019, 07:37:23 PM »

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/police-issue-update-latex-clad-3557776

team filler · « **Reply #7650 on:** November 27, 2019, 11:21:19 AM »

https://twitter.com/SputnikInt/status/1199721599974461440

Occam · « **Reply #7651 on:** November 27, 2019, 02:31:41 PM »

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/sputnik-news/

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE

Detailed Report

Reasoning: Russian Propaganda, Conspiracy, Poor Sourcing, Some Fake News
Country: Russia
World Press Freedom Rank: Russia 148/180

History

Sputnik is a Russian news agency and radio broadcaster which publishes online stories and radio shows, as well as videos. In 2013, via a presidential decree by Vladimir Putin, the radio station Voice of Russia and RIA Novosti news service was abolished and replaced by Rossiya Segodnya (Russia Today, not to be confused with RT). In 2014, Rossiya Segodnya (Russia Today) launched Sputnik and conservative news anchor, Dmitry Kiselyov was appointed as Director General of Rossiya Segodnya. Kiselyov is known for ultra conservative views and anti-gay comments.

According to their about page, Sputnik describes itself as “The agency covers global political and economic news targeting an international audience.” Sputnik is based in Moscow.

Funded by / Ownership

Sputnik is owned and funded by the Russian Government to promote Russia’s image abroad. The Sputnik news service produces over 1,500 news items daily and around the clock that are available to subscribers via the web terminal and mobile app. The website also serves online advertising.

Analysis / Bias

Sputnik is often accused of reporting ‘fake news, spreading misinformation and being a “Kremlin Propaganda Machine” by European and American media outlets. In 2017, the FBI launched an investigation into Sputnik for a potential violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA).
[...]

team filler · « **Reply #7652 on:** November 27, 2019, 03:14:55 PM »

our news orgs are owned by our real government too

Rufus · « **Reply #7653 on:** November 27, 2019, 03:21:03 PM »

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #7654 on:** November 27, 2019, 06:37:12 PM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #7655 on:** November 27, 2019, 06:38:54 PM »

Quote

LONDON — Boris Johnson is on course to win a 68-seat majority in the U.K. general election, according to a major new poll.

The YouGov seat prediction survey — which accurately predicted that Theresa May would lose her majority in 2017 — said the Tories would win 359 seats (up 42) with Labour dropping to 211 (down 51) if the election were held tomorrow.

Occam · « **Reply #7656 on:** November 27, 2019, 06:42:00 PM »

Thanks, Jeremy! Brexit, here we come.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #7657 on:** November 27, 2019, 06:42:46 PM »

Not gonna lie, Labour getting BTFO even after the whole Brexit disaster and countless Johnson blunders is still funny to me.

Occam · « **Reply #7658 on:** November 27, 2019, 06:46:20 PM »

I would love to know what the outcome would have been if Corbyn had campaigned on cancelling brexit if elected.
It couldn't have been worse.

Nintex · « **Reply #7659 on:** November 27, 2019, 07:06:27 PM »

The two campaigns couldn't be more different.

Corbyn books interviews to get hit by difficult questions from journalists about tax hikes and anti-semitic comments
https://twitter.com/SunPolitics/status/1199483222561705984

Meanwhile Boris shows up 'wherever' bumbling and stumbling around and failing to do whatever he set out to do for his photo op
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1199780448056041472

team filler · « **Reply #7660 on:** November 28, 2019, 01:34:06 AM »

https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1199808681568821256

team filler · « **Reply #7661 on:** November 28, 2019, 03:15:30 AM »

https://twitter.com/ChineseEmbinUS/status/1199880001807683585

team filler · « **Reply #7662 on:** November 28, 2019, 04:03:16 AM »

https://twitter.com/liamstone_19/status/1199799259534544896

deep state trying to create chinese isis in hong kong

Nintex · « **Reply #7663 on:** November 28, 2019, 01:28:46 PM »

LMAO Boris literally send his dad to substitute him in a TV debate

https://twitter.com/bendepear/status/1200116865894363136

Nintex · « **Reply #7664 on:** November 28, 2019, 02:36:30 PM »

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7665 on:** November 28, 2019, 03:44:28 PM »

Occam · « **Reply #7666 on:** November 28, 2019, 03:47:46 PM »

That's pretty decent of them.

team filler · « **Reply #7667 on:** November 28, 2019, 04:10:10 PM »

https://twitter.com/Granma_English/status/1200156757718446089

team filler · « **Reply #7668 on:** November 28, 2019, 11:50:53 PM »

https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1200197839441276930

team filler · « **Reply #7669 on:** November 29, 2019, 12:50:39 AM »

https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1200288277443428352

team filler · « **Reply #7670 on:** November 29, 2019, 03:08:15 PM »

https://twitter.com/zlj517/status/1200504907503030273

team filler · « **Reply #7671 on:** November 29, 2019, 03:35:00 PM »

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1200425186950033409

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1200427385159589893

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1200428828943884291

macron annihilated

Nintex · « **Reply #7672 on:** November 29, 2019, 05:58:29 PM »

Russian Duma: "IF we dropped a nuke 5 feet from Erdogans palace we could probably create an artificial flood and retake Constantinople without taking a shot comrades"

Macron: "NATO is braindead"

Erdogan would be smart to remember that most European leaders hate him more than they hate Putin.

Raist · « **Reply #7673 on:** November 30, 2019, 12:40:04 AM »

Nothing like going for a coffee and smoke break, only to be told that no one is allowed out of the building because "there's a shooting on London Bridge".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c9ydw1lqjxrt/london-bridge-attack

I'm fine btw, thanks for asking you jerks

Quick summary:

- piece of shit starts stabbing people (2 dead, 3 injured). Starts at (or just outside, not clear) the Fishmonger's Hall on the North side of London Bridge.

- random people start kicking the shit out of him. That includes someone using a fire extinguisher, a guy convicted for murder who was on day release, and someone who grabbed a fucking narwhal tusk from a wall at Fishmonger's Hall (I'm not joking).

- cops arrive within 5 mins, get the civilians out of here. They end up shooting the guy as he revealed he had a bomb vest/belt (which turned out to be fake).

As a reminder, London Bridge was where, in summer 2017, a group of pieces of shit went around slashing people with machetes.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #7674 on:** November 30, 2019, 12:43:09 AM »

You had a chance, and you blew it hard

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Raist · « **Reply #7675 on:** November 30, 2019, 12:51:12 AM »

Here's Fire Extinguisher-Man and Narwhal Tusk-Man.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #7676 on:** November 30, 2019, 01:19:07 AM »

Quote from: Raist on November 30, 2019, 12:51:12 AM

Here's Fire Extinguisher-Man and Narwhal Tusk-Man.

(Image removed from quote.)

Not all heroes wear capes.

Nintex · « **Reply #7677 on:** November 30, 2019, 06:39:01 AM »

https://twitter.com/CLPOfChina/status/1200436931563122688

People rising up in mainland china as well.
Time to send in the Hoff and end the Chinacom charade

Raist · « **Reply #7678 on:** November 30, 2019, 09:17:27 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on November 30, 2019, 01:19:07 AM

Quote from: Raist on November 30, 2019, 12:51:12 AM
Here's Fire Extinguisher-Man and Narwhal Tusk-Man.

(Image removed from quote.)

Not all heroes wear capes.

Turns out, in yet another example of "get fucked you brexiteer morons", Narwhal Tusk-Man is a Polish immigrant.

edit:

This is glorious

https://twitter.com/mrdanwalker/status/1200690348625944577

Nintex · « **Reply #7679 on:** November 30, 2019, 12:46:33 PM »

Looks like bumbling about like an idiot might not work for Boris this time.

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1200824832042164225

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