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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8100 on: January 31, 2020, 07:23:20 AM »
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/30/brexit-730000-britons-acquired-non-uk-eu-irish-passports-since-2016
Most are applying for Irish citizenship, followed by Germany, followed by Sweden and then France. Interestingly, only a handful are applying for Spanish passports despite 600,000 British people living there.

Spain requires naturalised citizens to be able to speak Spanish and to have shown integration into Spanish culture, which precludes the Brits out there.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8101 on: January 31, 2020, 07:43:53 AM »
Has Macron responded at all?

This is like a Rammstein video :doge

https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1222213652822052866

The government just need to explain the reform more betterer.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8102 on: January 31, 2020, 08:05:34 AM »
I remember reading some things about Macron early on pointing out that he was roughly as popular in France  as Trump was in the US, I.e. not very.

He basically just failed up by running against a crazy person, and somehow thought that gave home a strong mandate.

You're basically saying that Hillary Clinton should have had a dick.

Happy Brexit.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8103 on: January 31, 2020, 08:10:11 AM »


Brexit Day!
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« Reply #8104 on: January 31, 2020, 10:55:09 AM »
Amusing, but lacks a punchline. They took her for a ride (or rather, flight) and then did nothing with it.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8105 on: January 31, 2020, 04:15:00 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/30/brexit-730000-britons-acquired-non-uk-eu-irish-passports-since-2016
Most are applying for Irish citizenship, followed by Germany, followed by Sweden and then France. Interestingly, only a handful are applying for Spanish passports despite 600,000 British people living there.

Spain requires naturalised citizens to be able to speak Spanish and to have shown integration into Spanish culture, which precludes the Brits out there.

Same in France. Though I assume Brits speaking some sort of French might be a more common occurrence than for Spanish.

Funnily enough the level of French fluency required to be demonstrated as part of the naturalization process was recently increased - but it won't take effect till April.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8106 on: January 31, 2020, 06:16:19 PM »
So, Great Britain has left the EU. How long until it becomes Little Britain?
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8107 on: January 31, 2020, 06:17:55 PM »
Nice to see this thread turn into british parliament itself.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8109 on: January 31, 2020, 07:19:18 PM »
Coincidentally, I just was randomly reading about all the British fascist/neo-Nazi parties and I might have found a more fractional and splitter based group than most countries Communists are. Also like every party since the 1930s was started by the same three dudes. And they all had affairs with each others fiances while each dude was in prison and shit like that. And they basically cycled through the same 200-300 followers in each group until the BNP changed in the 1990s. (Also they started dying off.)

One time George Lincoln Rockwell of the American Nazi Party told the one dude he should try backing off the race hatred a little if he wanted to garner more support than the tens of followers and the guy told him to fucccckkkkkk ooooffffoffffff back to the colonies.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8110 on: January 31, 2020, 07:23:48 PM »
lol someone made this chart for Wikipedia and it's literally only one branch of the movement, so like a third of the groups:


They briefly unified in their own National Front (ala the one in France) just for it to fall apart in a scandal regarding members using it as a front to have homosexual sex with each other.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8111 on: January 31, 2020, 07:27:00 PM »
NIGEL FARAGE ON LOU WHAT THREAD DO I POST THIS IN

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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8112 on: January 31, 2020, 07:30:28 PM »
PM directly to Nintex?
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« Reply #8113 on: January 31, 2020, 07:31:56 PM »
NIGEL FARAGE ON LOU WHAT THREAD DO I POST THIS IN

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https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/1223405314738917376
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8114 on: February 01, 2020, 04:18:12 AM »
Feels pretty good to be free of the tyranny of the unelected eu this morning brehs :pimp

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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8115 on: February 01, 2020, 06:16:31 AM »
Does it?

The tyranny just got worse, you're still under EU rules but have no representation anymore :umad

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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8116 on: February 01, 2020, 06:46:01 AM »
Feels pretty good to be free of the tyranny of the unelected eu this morning brehs :pimp
It seemed impossible but you did it and reclaimed your freedom from the cult.
After the overthrow of Berlusconi, neutering Greece and the sponsored coup in Ukraine it was pretty obvious the whole thing was steaming towards disaster.
Hopefully more countries will follow and a new alliance can be forged that looks out better for the interests of all of Europe and prevents yet another 'lost decade' of failed 5 year plans.



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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8117 on: February 01, 2020, 02:09:41 PM »
The French government and its majority at the assembly opposed and voted down a proposed law to extend leave for parents who lost their child from 5 to 12 days. After getting near immediate scorn from basically the whole political spectrum, Macron ordered them to backtrack this.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8118 on: February 01, 2020, 02:23:03 PM »
What kind of special moron do you have to be to vote against something like this :lol

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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8119 on: February 01, 2020, 02:24:50 PM »
What kind of special moron do you have to be to vote against something like this :lol

A Macronist apparently.  :brain
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8120 on: February 01, 2020, 02:25:21 PM »
France's government is run by people who think running an increase in the gas tax wouldn't cause massive riots that will last for years.

It did.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8121 on: February 01, 2020, 05:56:02 PM »
Morons. But most of the readers who commented on the article seem to have a pretty astute view of what's going to happen to "Great" Britain next.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/01/world/europe/brexit-britain.html?action=click&module=News&pgtype=Homepage#commentsContainer

The only winners of Brexit are a few wealthy Britons and the European Union (and possibly Putin).
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8122 on: February 01, 2020, 07:56:14 PM »
I think both the UK and EU are going to 'win'.

The EU will realize it can not just run on autopilot in Brussels with the heads of the biggest German car makers but needs to engage the entire population of Europe for their plans.
It might even make them realize that some of their 5/10/20 year agendas do not benefit Europe at all and reform.

The UK gets to spend the money they've always wanted to spend without EU regulations holding them back.
They were never fully 100% with the EU ever since Gordon Brown kept the Pound in favor of the Euro.
Brexit is simply the logical conclusion of an ongoing process of the UK distancing itself from the German/France axis.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8124 on: February 01, 2020, 09:37:47 PM »
February 2020 - Rick Scott explains to Guaido that his sugar daddy John Bolton is no longer a friend of Trump and thus he is on his own, Colorized.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8125 on: February 02, 2020, 09:18:24 AM »
Those trade talks are already shaping up to go reaaaaally smoothly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51345776

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Boris Johnson is to say he won't accept alignment with EU rules when Britain negotiates a trade deal with Brussels.

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« Reply #8126 on: February 02, 2020, 10:31:30 AM »
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8127 on: February 02, 2020, 12:44:54 PM »
It's just some bluster for the home front.
What Boris says and does is often the opposite.  :lol
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8128 on: February 02, 2020, 12:57:30 PM »
Being in London I’ve heard soms dumb as fuck things.
On that stuck out was “Well the EU is basically if the nazis has won WW2” also a pub had an British flag with fuck the EU and vote Brexit which my buddies and I scratched out using a sharpie then we got told to leave because we apparently destroyed a flag..... seriously considering moving back to the US as fuck the way this country is at the moment. It’s probably the most short sighted decision ever, bloody inbreeding in towns that will most likely lose the most jobs because the factories they work in will have to move into Europe so they can sell their goods without ridiculous tariffs. HP had to make a U.K. support centre for faults just so they can maintain their SLA targets, it’s just so stupid.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8129 on: February 02, 2020, 01:36:01 PM »
People have been lapping up 4 decades of random shite about the EU.

3.5 years after the bollocks pro-Brexit campaigns, and they're still repeating the "finally we can now make our own laws" "can't wait for the government to use those Ł350M per week on schools and the NHS" lines, etc etc :lol

They'll probably likewise gobble up whatever lies the Tories have lined up next to excuse their policies.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8130 on: February 02, 2020, 02:06:39 PM »
It really depends on how resolute the EU is on sticking it to Britain. It will be bad for the EU, but Britain has way more to lose.

If the EU plays hardball enough the UK will be back hat in hand in 10 years begging the EU to let them trade according to EU rules.

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« Reply #8131 on: February 02, 2020, 02:15:20 PM »
It really depends on how resolute the EU is on sticking it to Britain. It will be bad for the EU, but Britain has way more to lose.

If the EU plays hardball enough the UK will be back hat in hand in 10 years begging the EU to let them trade according to EU rules.
All member states have to agree.
None of them want to ever be in the same position.

It'll mostly be business as usual with some perks for German car makers and others who pay their lobbyists well.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8132 on: February 02, 2020, 02:22:17 PM »
I mean we left but still using their laws for at least the next year...

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« Reply #8133 on: February 02, 2020, 02:24:12 PM »
It really depends on how resolute the EU is on sticking it to Britain. It will be bad for the EU, but Britain has way more to lose.

If the EU plays hardball enough the UK will be back hat in hand in 10 years begging the EU to let them trade according to EU rules.

I certainly hope so. But whatever happens, the UK won't get access to the single market without following the rules and paying for it (like Norway, without having any say). A far as financial services are concerned, the EU absolutely won't tolerate London becoming "another Singapore", as I've heard some people claim. That notion if simply idiotic.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8134 on: February 02, 2020, 04:30:54 PM »
Nintex pumping up those agri exports numbers once again

https://twitter.com/thauma_idesthai/status/1223709264704831491

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« Reply #8135 on: February 03, 2020, 04:08:10 AM »
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8136 on: February 03, 2020, 05:31:57 AM »
The French government and its majority at the assembly opposed and voted down a proposed law to extend leave for parents who lost their child from 5 to 12 days. After getting near immediate scorn from basically the whole political spectrum, Macron ordered them to backtrack this.

Just a small detail I forgot to mention : disbelief at the government and support for extending the leave came from as far as the head and former head of the most-known CEO and business owners union.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8138 on: February 03, 2020, 12:31:30 PM »
https://twitter.com/NegarMortazavi/status/1224050189612343296

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I don't think the response is warranted.

Humanitarian supplies are exempt from US sanctions, but the sanctions deter institutions from doing business with Iran to get these supplies. The Swiss have created a channel to get around this. It's self serving, but without it Iran wouldn't be getting the supplies. Seems worthy of a photo-op. It only looks like a gift because of the country's flag.

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« Reply #8139 on: February 03, 2020, 12:36:01 PM »
Switzerland's already famous for providing loopholes in the international financial system, nice to see it put to good use for once.

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« Reply #8140 on: February 03, 2020, 01:20:59 PM »
Iran: We can't get any supplies because of orange man bad  :'(

Swiss: Let me help you fam  8)

Iran:  :rethread
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8141 on: February 03, 2020, 05:41:29 PM »
what the hell is he talking about
https://twitter.com/jude5456/status/1224292272868675584

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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8142 on: February 03, 2020, 05:59:05 PM »
Copying his orange master:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-news-journalists-walk-out-no-10-briefing-a9314996.html

Journalists walked out of a Downing Street briefing on Boris Johnson’s Brexit plans after the prime minister’s director of communications tried to restrict it to selected publications and broadcasters.

Among those boycotting the briefing were the BBC’s political editor Laura Kuenssberg and ITV’s Robert Peston.
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« Reply #8143 on: February 03, 2020, 06:49:48 PM »
Switzerland's already famous for providing loopholes in the international financial system, nice to see it put to good use for once.
besides that, never miss your chance to piss on a swiss  :success
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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8144 on: February 03, 2020, 07:56:04 PM »
Ho, Kuenssberg is starting to wake up :lol
Bit too late though, innit love.

https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1224325534903152645

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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8145 on: February 04, 2020, 12:48:37 AM »
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« Reply #8146 on: February 04, 2020, 06:17:16 AM »
Bit too late though, innit love.
Are French people allowed to say this? After Brexit no less?

I'll do whatever I want, bruv :hmph

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Re: International Politics Thread - Brexit Ratified
« Reply #8147 on: February 04, 2020, 06:26:15 AM »
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« Reply #8148 on: February 04, 2020, 09:34:07 PM »
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An Israeli settler leader and supporter of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accused senior White House adviser Jared Kushner of betraying the prime minister by slowing down the annexation of the West Bank.

David Elhayani, the chairman of the Yesha Council that manages more than 150 settlements, condemned Kushner for misleading Netanyahu after he endorsed President Trump’s Middle East peace plan, The Washington Post reported.

“Kushner took a knife and put it in Netanyahu’s back,” he told The Washington Post. “Kushner misled the prime minister. He misled everybody. He knew for a long time that Netanyahu wanted to declare sovereignty over the Jordan Valley and northern Dead Sea — he said it many times over the last year. Gentlemen just don’t act this way.”

Elhayani continued saying that Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, may cost the prime minister the March 2 election if he pushes back on annexing the settlements right away.

The settler leader said a senior U.S. official told them that if the Palestinians didn’t agree to the plan within 48 hours, Israel would be permitted to annex more than 30 percent of the West Bank.

“But something happened after that; they changed their minds,” he said, according to the Post.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/middle-east-north-africa/481441-israeli-settler-leader-kushner-took-a-knife-and

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« Reply #8149 on: February 04, 2020, 10:36:28 PM »
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« Reply #8150 on: February 05, 2020, 12:06:56 AM »
what the hell is he talking about
https://twitter.com/jude5456/status/1224292272868675584

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« Reply #8151 on: February 05, 2020, 10:07:44 AM »
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An Israeli settler leader and supporter of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accused senior White House adviser Jared Kushner of betraying the prime minister by slowing down the annexation of the West Bank.

David Elhayani, the chairman of the Yesha Council that manages more than 150 settlements, condemned Kushner for misleading Netanyahu after he endorsed President Trump’s Middle East peace plan, The Washington Post reported.

“Kushner took a knife and put it in Netanyahu’s back,” he told The Washington Post. “Kushner misled the prime minister. He misled everybody. He knew for a long time that Netanyahu wanted to declare sovereignty over the Jordan Valley and northern Dead Sea — he said it many times over the last year. Gentlemen just don’t act this way.”

Elhayani continued saying that Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, may cost the prime minister the March 2 election if he pushes back on annexing the settlements right away.

The settler leader said a senior U.S. official told them that if the Palestinians didn’t agree to the plan within 48 hours, Israel would be permitted to annex more than 30 percent of the West Bank.

“But something happened after that; they changed their minds,” he said, according to the Post.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/middle-east-north-africa/481441-israeli-settler-leader-kushner-took-a-knife-and

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« Reply #8152 on: February 05, 2020, 06:38:29 PM »
https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1225177109120933889
This whole episode sounds very German.
The far right 'won' by backing an establishment liberal.
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« Reply #8153 on: February 05, 2020, 07:03:10 PM »
Besides the fact that they wouldn't be able to form a working government, the nihilist in me finds the fact that the left party is absolutely seething becaues of the election of an by all accounts completely milquetoast FDP politician incredibly amusing.

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« Reply #8155 on: February 07, 2020, 10:48:02 AM »
The Yellow Vests loved the idea of citizens being able to call referendums, so among the minimal pandering by Macron last year was adopted the possibility for members of parliament to launch official petitions to add items to the agenda of the National Assembly. The threshold is 10% of the voting population so over 4 millions signatures as of now. It's pretty extreme and probably was a guarantee it would never be used. Macron mused about lowering it to a million alongside his big constitutional reform he hoped for, but the latter has been shelved indefinitely.

The first of such, to force a second examination of the projected privatization of ADP ("Paris Airports" which also holds shares in many airports worldwide), was launched soon after and will expire a month from now.

It will never make it to 4,5m signatures but collected a million still. Opposition MPs, notably the Communists, are trying to leverage this into debates.
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« Reply #8157 on: February 07, 2020, 02:09:02 PM »
I hate when you go to do a war crime, but the other guy is just annoying as shit.

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« Reply #8158 on: February 08, 2020, 01:18:07 PM »


The best explanation of current political discourse I've seen in a while.
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