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Olivia Wilde Homo

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5280 on: February 14, 2019, 07:11:56 AM »
Spent some time putting together a plan and strategy for a promotion that was submitted to management. It’s been two years since I last had one. The next step from here is a VP role.  I’m going to have even less of a life now.
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5281 on: February 15, 2019, 11:03:07 AM »
The discrepancy between the last two posts is pronounced.

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5282 on: February 15, 2019, 12:29:17 PM »
Sitting in the hospital right now. Riding my motorcycle to work in a highway construction are this morning, a construction barrel started to roll out in front of me. It was really pretty fast so I thought I could move left and get around it. It stopped dead and I ran right into it going about 70mph. I flew over my bars, landed on my right knee/side and rolled and slid for at least fifty feet. Adrenaline was pumping and I jumped right up trying to make sense of what just happened. The bike was another 150 feet or so further down the highway. I’ve got some fucked up knees, a bruise on my lung and some road rash on my back but man... nothing is broken and I’m alive. That’s my triumph.

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5283 on: February 15, 2019, 12:37:07 PM »
Holy fuck dude. Glad you're relatively OK.

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5284 on: February 15, 2019, 12:54:33 PM »
holy shit, thank god that's all that happened

Brehvolution

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5285 on: February 15, 2019, 12:56:13 PM »
Damn, Mupepe. I'm so glad you are OK.
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5286 on: February 15, 2019, 01:52:18 PM »
Mups 😭 glad you made it all, sounds scary af you must have good gear

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5287 on: February 15, 2019, 07:24:40 PM »
Jesus, Mups.  :o :o :o

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5288 on: February 15, 2019, 07:47:40 PM »
Sitting in the hospital right now. Riding my motorcycle to work in a highway construction are this morning, a construction barrel started to roll out in front of me. It was really pretty fast so I thought I could move left and get around it. It stopped dead and I ran right into it going about 70mph. I flew over my bars, landed on my right knee/side and rolled and slid for at least fifty feet. Adrenaline was pumping and I jumped right up trying to make sense of what just happened. The bike was another 150 feet or so further down the highway. I’ve got some fucked up knees, a bruise on my lung and some road rash on my back but man... nothing is broken and I’m alive. That’s my triumph.
I swear to god the bire is being targetted.  :doge
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5289 on: February 15, 2019, 07:55:46 PM »
Hope you recover fast dude

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5290 on: February 15, 2019, 11:44:09 PM »
Mr. Mups, I am grateful to whatever gods you have. And fuck those donkey kong motherfuckers letting a barrel slide out into the highway.

You'll recover slowly, but keep an eye out for any changes (especially the lungs). Just take it easy, I saw a motorcyclist fly off his bike once and as soon as we stopped to help, he was standing straight up like you did due to the adrenaline. It can take days before you start really feeling it.

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5291 on: February 15, 2019, 11:46:49 PM »
Liberal Construction Workers :rage

Glad you're okay, Mups.
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5292 on: February 15, 2019, 11:49:07 PM »
Donkey Kong could not be found for questioning and issued a statement through his lawyer.

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« Reply #5293 on: February 16, 2019, 09:51:07 AM »
Thanks guys. I’m supposed to be released today and then I’ll spend some time at home to get better. Other than walking or trying to sit on the toilet being a total pain I’m not too bad. The nurses and doctors that come check on me are all surprised that I can walk and nothing was broken. I got extremely lucky.

Brawn: yeah for an hour after the accident I was up talking to police and the fire department. Then it started to hit me all at once and the pain just escalated al day yesterday. I had initially told the ambulance I was good and not to worry about it. They had to call them back out when it hit me and three hours after the accident I could barely stand. They tell me additional injuries will likely pop up over the next week

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5294 on: February 16, 2019, 10:06:08 AM »
Other than ... trying to sit on the toilet being a total pain I’m not too bad.
no no, you're supposed to log things that are different after the accident

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5295 on: February 17, 2019, 04:12:16 PM »
oh no!

more importantly, how's the bike?

seriously, though, road rash sucks. a couple years back my z1000's transmission seized due to poor oil circulation (lol it was me not knowing i needed to change oil in the gearbox) and i went down a hill at 50 on my ass in jeans.

i received the BRUSH from the medics. that sucked.
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5296 on: February 17, 2019, 04:21:00 PM »
BRUSH?  Bum Rush the Unconscious Skidmarked Homie?  Bet that sucked indeed.

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« Reply #5297 on: February 17, 2019, 04:41:23 PM »
oh no!

more importantly, how's the bike?

seriously, though, road rash sucks. a couple years back my z1000's transmission seized due to poor oil circulation (lol it was me not knowing i needed to change oil in the gearbox) and i went down a hill at 50 on my ass in jeans.

i received the BRUSH from the medics. that sucked.
Not sure about the bike. It was dark and I was still all disoriented when they took it away. It was leaking oil and one of the saddle bags got smashed to pieces. Both mirrors were also smashed and the bars looked crooked when the front wheel was straight on the tow truck. From what I’ve been told from others they tend to total Harleys unless the damage was really minor. But I’ll find out more this week.

Luckily my jeans held up pretty well. They tore through on a couple spots. The road rash on my back is from my jacket riding up while sliding but thankfully it’s just on my lower left back. All my gear held up well enough that I didn’t really have any road debris embedded in me.

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5298 on: February 19, 2019, 11:57:22 PM »
OMG forgot I bought icecream!

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5299 on: February 20, 2019, 06:56:35 AM »
I completed the Resident Evil 2 Remake survey saying the game is great and they should stop with the 1st person camera and do a remake of 3, despite not having even opened the game yet. #ThugLife    :smug

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5300 on: February 20, 2019, 06:48:32 PM »
latest carving is turning out really well.

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5301 on: February 20, 2019, 08:48:34 PM »
I completed the Resident Evil 2 Remake survey saying the game is great and they should stop with the 1st person camera and do a remake of 3, despite not having even opened the game yet. #ThugLife    :smug

When I hate a Magic: the Gathering mechanic I say that it wasn't bad and it wasn't good on surveys because that's apparently worse than saying you hate it.

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5302 on: February 21, 2019, 04:47:07 PM »
After my car crash things have been crazy busy in a good way.

Today I practiced my pitch for a new client I'm hoping to reel in tommorow
And the entire team was unanimous: "Only you can say this shit with such confidence as if you've given this presentation a million times before"
2 other big things are close to being landed in our coffers.
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5303 on: February 21, 2019, 05:06:12 PM »
After my car crash things have been crazy busy in a good way.

Today I practiced my pitch for a new client I'm hoping to reel in tommorow
And the entire team was unanimous: "Only you can say this shit with such confidence as if you've given this presentation a million times before"
2 other big things are close to being landed in our coffers.
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5304 on: February 22, 2019, 10:14:59 AM »
Both my state and federal tax refunds were approved and paid out within a week :rejoice

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5305 on: February 22, 2019, 10:56:51 AM »
It's ok because you got to bring home $1k more in your paychecks over the course of the year. You didn't notice that $9 a week bump?
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5306 on: February 22, 2019, 11:03:56 AM »
That's nine triple layer nachos PER WEEK :lawd

but the main reason it was lower was we didn't pay a bunch of my wife tuition and college expenses like 2017.

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5307 on: February 22, 2019, 11:07:59 AM »
That education credit is the only reason we got much of anything back.
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5308 on: February 24, 2019, 04:10:58 PM »
I mean you should want a zero fund rather than the free loan you have the gov for a year

But it is fun having a little surprise money come back at ya
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5309 on: February 24, 2019, 10:10:30 PM »
Turn 30 in 2 hours.  This is going to be my decade.  I can feel it. 

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5310 on: February 25, 2019, 08:43:53 AM »
Congrats. It's all downhill from there.

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5311 on: February 25, 2019, 08:52:45 AM »
30s > 20s

The 30s are just like your 20s just with disposable income. :money

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5312 on: February 25, 2019, 09:44:49 AM »
30s > 20s

The 30s are just like your 20s just with disposable income. :money

Your 50s are like your 30s except wondering why you didn't save more of that "disposable" income.

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5313 on: February 25, 2019, 02:49:29 PM »
And there's a good chance you're still wealth challenged.

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« Reply #5314 on: February 25, 2019, 03:15:55 PM »
Your 30s are just like your 20s except everything hurts and your suicidal thoughts, while perhaps not as intense, are more pervasive and never leave you.

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5315 on: February 25, 2019, 05:55:45 PM »
Having a bucket of fried chicken delivered to me even though the bar is only 50 meters away

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« Reply #5316 on: February 26, 2019, 04:59:26 PM »
So a client came in today to discuss a new website design. One of our designers made a really nice modern design with round shapes, great icons and lovely colors.
However, he said: "It needs to SELL. I don't want it to be artsy". Usually the start of some really bad vibes so we tried to explain that he needs to stand out among the crowd and make people feel comfortable to go in business with him.
This would fit the target audience (mainly females) quite well. And even though he understood the reasoning he said he had tried doing the soft sell before and other people had just gone the brute force way and were more succesful than him.

And if that wasn't bad enough for our designer he uttered the magic words:
"It needs to be blunt, bold, in your face..... JUST LIKE DONALD TRUMP AND WHAT HE DOES"

to quicly add:
"..... not that I uh support him or his politics..... but you know sometimes simplicity is better"
(thinking he was edge lord to artsy designer girl and IT nerds. Making the point that he wants it to SELL)

By that time the face of my employee had already gone from:
:( (because he shot down her design)
to:
:o (you dun fucked up now bro). Everyone else in the office:  8) (dis gonna be good)

He sorta went silent thinking: "Oops, this is not the audience." To which I said: "No judging here bro, I completely understand your point"  :teehee

By the time I'm done to Trumpify that design he won't know what hit him. Although he might've gotten the hint when I explained to him why the hats worked so well and that I completely agreed with him that the simplistic approach might work better and the Democrats were already making it too complicated for themselves setting up the 2020 loss and we shouldn't follow in their footsteps.

Rule of thumb in design world is: "Don't do what your client wants" but in this case, this guy came to the right place to get EXACTLY what he wants  :smug
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5317 on: February 27, 2019, 10:30:54 AM »
In London to watch football tonight

Global warming made it a whopping 18 degrees in winter

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« Reply #5318 on: February 27, 2019, 02:22:20 PM »
This guy is the absolute worst.
- Sends picture of himself to use on website
(BUT WE ALSO NEEDS A FEMALE ON THE WEBSITE BUT ALL MY FEMALE EMPLOYEES HAVE LEFT)
- Designer adds asian girl stock photo as a placeholder for diversity

"WHY IS THERE AN ASIAN SO CLOSE TO ME!"

Complete dudebro fitness type. Unaware I created the image he aspires to as a parody of his existence.  :aah

I just love these type of clients that completely suck. And they always hate that. Because they want to be an asshole alpha male client and they can't when they figure out you don't bite.

 :heyman
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5319 on: February 27, 2019, 03:16:03 PM »
Just walked out of an interview feeling 10 feet tall with a 12 foot dick. Looped around my neck like a figure 8. Even if the chances of proceeding to the next round are sorta low, I feel hot as a m'afk.

"WHY IS THERE AN ASIAN SO CLOSE TO ME!"

Just tell him she's there to show that the company capitulated to SJWs and over-promoted someone who isn't a cishet white dude. It'll make him paranoid and run his business into the ground faster.

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« Reply #5320 on: February 28, 2019, 03:21:25 PM »
(BUT WE ALSO NEEDS A FEMALE ON THE WEBSITE BUT ALL MY FEMALE EMPLOYEES HAVE LEFT)
:dead
The best part was when he send me a picture of him for the website and a female employee.

And we were like: "That's a nice picture"
A day later: "She just resigned we can't use that"  :rofl
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5321 on: March 14, 2019, 03:56:21 PM »
New monitor get. 8)

I can now stop agonizing over the choice. Bye-bye, obscure review sites. Bye-bye, worthless but anxiety inducing user reviews. :rejoice

It's the AOC C24G1, if anyone cares. 24'' 1080p 144Hz VA-Panel with Freesync (G-Sync compatible according to user reports).
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Have to use it at a mere 60Hz for now because I have to use a DVI to HDMI adapter (and because I've decided to "Wait for Navi™", rather than giving in to the allure of the 1660 Ti) so I can't gush about high refresh just yet. :doge
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5322 on: March 28, 2019, 11:09:04 PM »
ive become slightly more outgoing the past few months

its so damn nice to eat or drink something at a (non-fast food) restaurant and just sit there and chill :rejoice

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and getting used to this will obviously be useful if i ever go on a date :doge
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Living the good life!

Being comfortable with just yourself, especially out among the hoi polloi, is a sign of confidence and maturity.

This past year, I very much enjoyed just finding a patio restaurant to have a sandwich and a beer and read a book by myself.

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5323 on: April 01, 2019, 01:20:44 PM »
Had my yearly review just now.  Was like five minutes long and was essentially "nothing bad to say- you keep on doing awesome, here's a regular pay raise, plus an additional extra pay raise for hard work, plus a nice bonus on your next pay check to show our appreciation."  We're going on vacation next week...that bonus alone just paid for the whole trip and then some!
 :rejoice

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5324 on: April 04, 2019, 08:21:17 AM »
I'm in the new place! Not a darned spooky thing in the world, though my landlord-provided minifridge makes quite a buzzing noise.

I went out to get my bedding materials, ended up hitting a new favorite craft beer place for an IPA, a Norwegian Imperial Stout, and some Okinawan noodles for dinner. Carried everything back instead of cabbing to get a little walk in.

The landlord also gave me access to the separate guest house's internet. I'm not gonna complain about free internet, but I'm not going to be playing any online games for the next half year!

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5325 on: April 04, 2019, 03:43:28 PM »
I'm in the new place! Not a darned spooky thing in the world, though my landlord-provided minifridge makes quite a buzzing noise.

I went out to get my bedding materials, ended up hitting a new favorite craft beer place for an IPA, a Norwegian Imperial Stout, and some Okinawan noodles for dinner. Carried everything back instead of cabbing to get a little walk in.

The landlord also gave me access to the separate guest house's internet. I'm not gonna complain about free internet, but I'm not going to be playing any online games for the next half year!


Well excuse me but we were promised some ghost footage.

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5326 on: April 04, 2019, 04:04:10 PM »
About to go on my first trip out of the country in a decade tomorrow. First real vacation (>3 days) in half a decade.

Get out more. It’s lovely
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5327 on: April 04, 2019, 04:04:12 PM »
I'm in the new place! Not a darned spooky thing in the world, though my landlord-provided minifridge makes quite a buzzing noise.

I went out to get my bedding materials, ended up hitting a new favorite craft beer place for an IPA, a Norwegian Imperial Stout, and some Okinawan noodles for dinner. Carried everything back instead of cabbing to get a little walk in.

The landlord also gave me access to the separate guest house's internet. I'm not gonna complain about free internet, but I'm not going to be playing any online games for the next half year!


Well excuse me but we were promised some ghost footage.

Just wait until he accesses the Guest House' cursed wifi and downloads some haunted porno on the Dark Web.
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5328 on: April 06, 2019, 04:47:36 AM »
Went to a scan today with the wife, baby doing fine at 11 weeks in  8)

Bleeding few weeks back was just a scare :)

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5329 on: April 06, 2019, 04:48:18 AM »
About to go on my first trip out of the country in a decade tomorrow. First real vacation (>3 days) in half a decade.

Get out more. It’s lovely

I spent years trying to build a career and now I'm good. I can enjoy myself for a while at least :rejoice

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5330 on: April 08, 2019, 08:35:35 PM »
I think you all know I've been placed on the project from hell at the most toxic client I've ever seen for long time now (and with as many clients as I've had, that's saying something)
I'll just leave these emails here (I've obviously changed the names, but otherwise they're verbatim):

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Email from client PM to me with his management and my management CC'ed on it.

Puppy,
We need  to have a discussion about your team's attitude. There's been a trend that we're seeing that it worrisome. We'd like to get this cleared for the projects success. Please let me know some slots that might work for you to meet and please give this priority.
Thanks,
Client PM

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Client PM,
Of course! I'm always willing to discuss and address any issues that might impede project progress. It stands to reason, however, that my team does not work in a vaccuum. Rather, we partner with your team. As such, any discussion of attitude and overall productivity must include a discussion of your team and how they interact with my team. To that end, please be prepared to have a holistic conversation about both teams and their attitudes to help remedy any concerns at their root rather than band-aiding the problem. I've ensured my calendar is up to date, please feel free to book my time as needed, I'll loop in my leadership as needed.

Thanks,
Puppy

Client PM Reply to all:

Puppy,
Let's just keep an eye on it for now. Thank you for the quick response.
Thanks,
Client PM

Client PM Reply to me alone:

Ouch! That was a hell of a power move. I know when I'm outplayed.

Damn Right. :success
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5331 on: April 08, 2019, 11:19:22 PM »
I think you all know I've been placed on the project from hell at the most toxic client I've ever seen for long time now (and with as many clients as I've had, that's saying something)
I'll just leave these emails here (I've obviously changed the names, but otherwise they're verbatim):

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Email from client PM to me with his management and my management CC'ed on it.

Puppy,
We need  to have a discussion about your team's attitude. There's been a trend that we're seeing that it worrisome. We'd like to get this cleared for the projects success. Please let me know some slots that might work for you to meet and please give this priority.
Thanks,
Client PM

My Reply to all

Client PM,
Of course! I'm always willing to discuss and address any issues that might impede project progress. It stands to reason, however, that my team does not work in a vaccuum. Rather, we partner with your team. As such, any discussion of attitude and overall productivity must include a discussion of your team and how they interact with my team. To that end, please be prepared to have a holistic conversation about both teams and their attitudes to help remedy any concerns at their root rather than band-aiding the problem. I've ensured my calendar is up to date, please feel free to book my time as needed, I'll loop in my leadership as needed.

Thanks,
Puppy

Client PM Reply to all:

Puppy,
Let's just keep an eye on it for now. Thank you for the quick response.
Thanks,
Client PM

Client PM Reply to me alone:

Ouch! That was a hell of a power move. I know when I'm outplayed.

Damn Right. :success


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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5332 on: April 09, 2019, 12:45:42 AM »
That wasn't a power move, that was the obvious response. What did the client PM think was going to happen when he tried to set up a meeting in order to chastise your team's behavior? He didn't think you were ready to turn that into an assessment of his team as well? And in an email forwarded to everyone, no less? Dumb/10

Shitty PMs just know how to kiss ass, not solve problems. So I guess everything becomes a power move if that's your life.

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« Reply #5333 on: April 09, 2019, 01:10:13 AM »
That wasn't a power move, that was the obvious response. What did the client PM think was going to happen when he tried to set up a meeting in order to chastise your team's behavior? He didn't think you were ready to turn that into an assessment of his team as well? And in an email forwarded to everyone, no less? Dumb/10

Shitty PMs just know how to kiss ass, not solve problems. So I guess everything becomes a power move if that's your life.

:respect

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5334 on: April 09, 2019, 08:46:59 AM »
PM should stand for Produce Meetings since that is all they are good for.
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5335 on: April 09, 2019, 09:25:36 AM »
PM should stand for Produce Meetings since that is all they are good for.

Works for Theresa May too.

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5336 on: April 09, 2019, 01:22:46 PM »
That wasn't a power move, that was the obvious response. What did the client PM think was going to happen when he tried to set up a meeting in order to chastise your team's behavior? He didn't think you were ready to turn that into an assessment of his team as well? And in an email forwarded to everyone, no less? Dumb/10
Don't take this away from me Shosta! I need a win! :brazilcry
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Yeti

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5337 on: April 09, 2019, 03:08:41 PM »
That wasn't a power move, that was the obvious response. What did the client PM think was going to happen when he tried to set up a meeting in order to chastise your team's behavior? He didn't think you were ready to turn that into an assessment of his team as well? And in an email forwarded to everyone, no less? Dumb/10
Don't take this away from me Shosta! I need a win! :brazilcry

Me too, I’m living vicariously through Puppy
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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5338 on: April 09, 2019, 03:35:51 PM »
That wasn't a power move, that was the obvious response. What did the client PM think was going to happen when he tried to set up a meeting in order to chastise your team's behavior? He didn't think you were ready to turn that into an assessment of his team as well? And in an email forwarded to everyone, no less? Dumb/10
Don't take this away from me Shosta! I need a win! :brazilcry

Me too, I’m living vicariously through Puppy

Then Puppy fucked the PM's wife.
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chronovore

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Re: Please share your triumph of the day
« Reply #5339 on: April 09, 2019, 11:28:37 PM »
PM should stand for Produce Meetings since that is all they are good for.

Not the way I do it.

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