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« Reply #63 on: June 11, 2015, 02:35:11 PM »
Bin Laden's computer had pdf copies of books on the Illuminati and 9/11 conspiracies!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/us-releases-contents-of-bin-ladens-english-language-bookshel?utm_term=.dxjXjMN2D

What if bin Laden thought 9/11 was a hoax. Free Snah.

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« Reply #64 on: June 11, 2015, 02:40:16 PM »
This is just a theory but I believe that the Brazilian Nazis are about to revel themselves and their first act in stepping out of the shadows was to assassinate Christopher Lee.

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« Reply #65 on: June 12, 2015, 04:06:19 PM »
What if bin Laden thought 9/11 was a hoax. Free Snah.
Khalid Sheikh Muhammed or one of those other dudes that were never ever tortured said that they didn't expect the towers to collapse, was just a bonus.

Clearly they weren't told ahead of time about the cover up story regarding how jet fuel can melt steel despite the evidence of that guy burning rabbit cages in his backyard proving otherwise.

They probably weren't targeting WTC7 either.

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« Reply #67 on: September 29, 2015, 03:04:59 AM »
Today I saw a homeless man engaged in an argument of some kind with another man (not sure if that man was homeless or not) and the homeless man was recording (or at least thought he was recording it) and I heard him yelling out things about how the other man was about to use his Free Mason mind control powers on him.
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« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2015, 06:45:29 PM »
I've noticed the only conspiracy theory that everyone seems to at least believe in is the JFK assassination.

Bit late on this but no, not really. Conspiracy theories have been debunked in a pretty thorough manner and there's a couple of recent monster books taking them apart. While I am not a specialist, there's a number of very plain facts easily understood -like Oswald trying to kill General Walker a few days before, his decent proficiency as a shooter when in the Marines, the testimonies from pretty much anyone having visited the Dallas library that the "sniper nest" was in fact very close and perfectly aligned for the shots, his wife's testimony (and all other testimonies) before the Warren commission, that Jack Ruby would never have had a chance of killing Oswald if the latter didn't request a late minute change of clothes (transfer then went late), etc...- that will highlight just how plausible the "official theory" of a lone shooter going for an opportunity target actually is, contrary to what conspiracy theorists would have you believe, just like they hold so dear to the "magic bullet" moniker when any amount of cursory research will show anyone that the bullet didn't do anything extraordinary (this has been the opinion of anyone versed in ballistics I read) and that in fact the shot can in fact be replcated in live conditions (I don't have the video at he ready but it does exist).

All discussions on the matter have raised for me the usual red flags for kookery when you realize that conspiracy theorists will handwave the massive amount of documented evidence to rely on wild gossips (Like alleged things said by Nixon in a party a few days before, etc...), baseless speculation and interpretations of silent, grainy 8mm footage (My favorite is the guy who claims that the limo driver is the one that killed Kennedy, you can see his sidearm flash on the Zapruder film when he turns around to kill JFK !), trotting out constantly the same old disproven canards and refusing to see the big picture.

That being said, Oswald is a fascinating character with a non mundane personal story, and he is a good canvas for some weird theories (one is the book that claims that it's not Oswald that came back from the USSR, but a spy body double). But really, all I have read about him paints the figure of a marginal and unbalanced character, one that would be a major liability for any high level, nefarious assassination.
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« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2015, 07:09:31 PM »
I'll add that the only massive "conspiracy theory" that I found convincing recently is that the Lybians condemned for the Lockerbie plane bombing were railroaded, probably because it was politically inconvenient to reverse the original suspicions and conclusions. In short, the evidence against the accused is pretty shaky (here's a recap by the Telegraph) and the "obligatory" Maltese point of origin for feeding the bomb into the luggage transit system, which is central to the case presented in court, doesn't hold up very well. Security conditions at several airports that were investigated at the time were so lax that the bomb could have been inserted pretty much at any point (and especially at Heathrow). As presented in the article, the evidence is equally as good if not better for other terrorist cells/backing states being implicated.
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« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2015, 07:38:28 PM »
Isn't the date for the declassification of the JFK files on the horizon? Not that will put anything to bed, but I won't say I don't have a passing interest in what's in them.

I really can't stand conspiracy bros which sucks because I buy weed in a state where it's not legal yet and thus might be regaled on why the earth might be flat on a weekly basis. I don't get why anyone expects a person who's so venal and narcissistic enough to run for office to be able to keep secrets when a grip of them can't conceal something as simple as an extramarital affair 

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« Reply #71 on: October 08, 2015, 07:55:19 PM »
If I understand correctly, there's very few documents about the JFK killing being still classified (see here for the clarification from the administration) and the date should come up soon, unless the US President extends it. Chances that any of those documents are the proof that was missing all along and could turn around all we know are really slim.

It's not unlike the endless cycle of UFOlogists announcing imminent disclosure only to get deflated everytime an Air Force (France, Brazil, USA even) around the world actually release the documents and there is nothing more there in the way of details, just rather dry reports of odd cases where unidentified objects or lights prompted an unsuccessful interception procedure.
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« Reply #72 on: October 13, 2015, 09:30:52 AM »
Soooo MH17 was shot down, gotta be some good ones there


Oh you know what, I haven't finished my coffee and was conflating it with MH370

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« Reply #73 on: October 17, 2015, 07:24:22 AM »
Soooo MH17 was shot down, gotta be some good ones there


Oh you know what, I haven't finished my coffee and was conflating it with MH370

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« Reply #74 on: October 21, 2015, 06:50:33 PM »
How bout we kick out some conspiracy jams with Martin Noakes

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« Reply #75 on: October 21, 2015, 11:08:49 PM »
Edison what the GOAT industrialist inventor, get over it distinguished mentally-challenged fellows !

Who thought that for a century
We haven't needed hydrocarbon energy
Endless power hidden for humanity


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« Reply #77 on: June 04, 2017, 02:07:35 AM »
Hahaha. Conspiracy theorists seem crazy enough to kill and wear someone else's skin.

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« Reply #78 on: May 09, 2018, 04:30:44 PM »
http://mileswmathis.com/barindex2.pdf

I found an awesome conspiracy theory that I hadn't heard of before of how JFK, RFK, and JFK Jr all faked their deaths and have each been ruling America as #DeepState Shadow Presidents ever since.

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« Reply #79 on: May 09, 2018, 04:54:45 PM »
Oh man, I would’ve loved this thread if I was around back when it was made. I’ve grown tired of a lot of conspiracy theory stuff as I’ve moved more into occult/esoteric stuff. I think it has to do with the politics of the last two years.
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« Reply #80 on: May 09, 2018, 05:09:11 PM »
But what about occult conspiracies

Oh, that stuff’s still aces. All the satanic ritual abuse/satanic panic conspiracies of the 80s are wonderfully entertaining. I just wish I had more to read on em. I feel like I’ve seen everything out there.
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« Reply #81 on: May 09, 2018, 05:12:21 PM »
Oh man, I would’ve loved this thread if I was around back when it was made. I’ve grown tired of a lot of conspiracy theory stuff as I’ve moved more into occult/esoteric stuff. I think it has to do with the politics of the last two years.

A friend of mine said "you know, the Lone Gunman would be alt-right today" and it ruined everything for me.

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« Reply #82 on: May 09, 2018, 05:16:35 PM »
Oh man, I would’ve loved this thread if I was around back when it was made. I’ve grown tired of a lot of conspiracy theory stuff as I’ve moved more into occult/esoteric stuff. I think it has to do with the politics of the last two years.

A friend of mine said "you know, the Lone Gunman would be alt-right today" and it ruined everything for me.

You just ruined my day :(
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« Reply #83 on: May 09, 2018, 05:41:33 PM »
Donald Trump was elected by Russia.
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« Reply #84 on: May 09, 2018, 06:23:16 PM »
http://mileswmathis.com/barindex2.pdf

I found an awesome conspiracy theory that I hadn't heard of before of how JFK, RFK, and JFK Jr all faked their deaths and have each been ruling America as #DeepState Shadow Presidents ever since.

 :whatisthis :whatisthis :whatisthis

I’d like it if this caught on with the Q crowd and that weird right wing painter started painting pictures of a really muscled trump enveloped in the flaming spirit of Jesus fighting them off Matrix style.

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« Reply #85 on: June 28, 2018, 08:08:02 PM »
From April : Sandy Hook parents saying Alex Jones for defamation.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/business/media/alex-jones-sandy-hook.html

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“I’ve been telling the parents for years I believe their children died, and quite frankly, they know that,” he said. “I’m sorry they died, but I didn’t kill them and gun owners in American did not kill your children,” he continued. “I believe Sandy Hook happened.”

:confused Why did you have numerous segments saying the contrary then ?
What a fucking weasel.
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From April : Sandy Hook parents saying Alex Jones for defamation.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/business/media/alex-jones-sandy-hook.html

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“I’ve been telling the parents for years I believe their children died, and quite frankly, they know that,” he said. “I’m sorry they died, but I didn’t kill them and gun owners in American did not kill your children,” he continued. “I believe Sandy Hook happened.”

:confused Why did you have numerous segments saying the contrary then ?
What a fucking weasel.

I'd be willing to put on an extended ruse pretending that Alex Jones was a "crisis actor" if someone was willing to shoot him.

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« Reply #90 on: July 03, 2018, 04:58:39 AM »
http://mileswmathis.com/barindex2.pdf

I found an awesome conspiracy theory that I hadn't heard of before of how JFK, RFK, and JFK Jr all faked their deaths and have each been ruling America as #DeepState Shadow Presidents ever since.

 :whatisthis :whatisthis :whatisthis
They're probably hiding in Cuba with 2Pac and Biggie.

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From April : Sandy Hook parents saying Alex Jones for defamation.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/business/media/alex-jones-sandy-hook.html

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“I’ve been telling the parents for years I believe their children died, and quite frankly, they know that,” he said. “I’m sorry they died, but I didn’t kill them and gun owners in American did not kill your children,” he continued. “I believe Sandy Hook happened.”

:confused Why did you have numerous segments saying the contrary then ?
What a fucking weasel.

I'd be willing to put on an extended ruse pretending that Alex Jones was a "crisis actor" if someone was willing to shoot him.

For entertainment purposes only.
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« Reply #93 on: July 04, 2018, 04:34:43 AM »
I was just thinking about this thread the other day and how I'd meant to go back and watch all these videos. Thanks for bumping  :respect
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« Reply #94 on: July 04, 2018, 05:29:31 AM »
Phil Schneider's claims that he and some super soldiers accidentally tunneled into a smelly underground alien base and then got into a gun fight with the unwashed bastards is my favourite conspiracy. I know it total madman nonsense but still I would like it to be true.




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« Reply #95 on: July 04, 2018, 11:51:03 PM »
http://www.gorevidalpages.com/2001/09/gore-vidal-meaning-of-timothy-mcveigh.html

"Within days of the bombing, Russell Roe, an assistant county attorney for Geary County, Kansas, sat down with F.B.I. agents and told them about a man in his area known to be involved in anti-government activities. Roe said that the individual resembled John Doe No. 2, and also that this man was said to have been exploding fertilizer bombs on his eastern-Kansas farm prior to the Murrah building explosion. Suzanne James, the woman in the Shawnee County D.A.'s office, told the Feds about the same individual. James says that the government was uninterested in her information. After placing approximately five phone calls to the F.B.I., she gave up. Pottawatomie County sheriff Tony Metcalf gave Subject No. 3's name to the F.B.I. Further, in the fall of 1997, I interviewed Cliff Hall, the owner of The Topeka Metro News. He told me that Subject No. 3 had taken out public notices in his publication. The ads were Freemen-style concoctions dealing with renouncement of citizenship and lien notices. Hall says a Secret Service agent came to his paper to obtain copies of the notices as part of their investigation into Subject No. 3.

Subject No. 3 was also named in a document pertaining to a federal bank-fraud investigation in Texas. The Texas case resulted in federal fraud charges being filed against several anti-government Republic of Texas (R.O.T.) members, including the group's leader, Richard McLaren. As part of its evidence against R.O.T., the government entered videotapes of the group preparing the fraudulent bank warrants. The videos also revealed a surprise. They clearly showed that the person teaching the R.O.T. how to create the bogus documents was none other than Subject No. 3. What McLaren's defense team couldn't understand was why their client and virtually every other person on the tape was arrested and charged in this investigation. The defense team began to suspect a sting operation. According to court documents in the McLaren case, Tom Mills, McLaren's attorney, asked the government for all of its files pertaining to Subject No. 3. The prosecutors, in a move explained only to the judge, filed a motion to keep Subject No. 3's files from the McLaren defense team. The government would turn over the files only if they would be held "in camera." In other words, the F.B.I. would make them available to the judge but not the defense.

Undaunted by the "in camera" setback, McLaren's defense team tried a new approach. If they couldn't see the files, they would subpoena the man. Mills hired an investigator, who quickly located Subject No. 3 in Oregon. Mills asked the court for money to fly the investigator to Oregon to serve the subpoena. The judge agreed, but then the government did something even more unusual than suppressing files. It arrested Subject No. 3 in the middle of the night, just five hours before the subpoena would have been served. Mills spent several hours interviewing Subject No. 3 in a Dallas jail. Afterward, Mills filed yet another motion, which stated that he was more convinced than ever that the man had cooperated with authorities on some level in the past, and therefore the attorney should be allowed to view the "in camera" files. His request was again denied. Subject No. 3 eventually took the stand while the jury was sequestered. The conventional wisdom said that if he was a government agent or informer he would have to take the Fifth. But he didn't. When asked by the judge if he was the man named in the subpoena, the subject gave a standard Freeman defense. He asked the judge to spell his name and confirm which letters were capitalized. The judge did so and the man said that the judge had spelled his name incorrectly. At that point, the government prosecutors, who had worked so hard to keep Subject No. 3 from testifying, told the judge that the man was in need of psychiatric evaluation. The judge agreed, and Subject No. 3 was never forced to explain his apparent immunity to prosecution. In April 1998, McLaren was found guilty on 27 federal counts. His defense team was never allowed access to Subject No. 3's files."
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« Reply #96 on: July 05, 2018, 12:04:59 AM »
btw, I think they need time to cook, but some of the Bourdain suicide conspiracy theories/truths are shaping up deliciously. There are two great ones that aren’t quite mature, but will surely offend Bourdain fans if they take off.
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« Reply #97 on: July 05, 2018, 12:44:16 AM »
Apparently qanon screwed up and posted a photo that he supposedly took inside Air Force One but was easily proven to be a publicly available image from Obama's presidency, and a lot of his followers have been disillusioned. I wonder what hungrynoob's take is.

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« Reply #98 on: July 05, 2018, 01:38:06 AM »
Are there any analogous conspiracy theories to Q?

Are there other conspiracies about the people in charge being benevolent figures who are fighting against forces of evil but keeping it a secret?

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« Reply #100 on: July 05, 2018, 09:07:09 AM »
Apparently qanon screwed up and posted a photo that he supposedly took inside Air Force One but was easily proven to be a publicly available image from Obama's presidency, and a lot of his followers have been disillusioned. I wonder what hungrynoob's take is.

What about all the other stuff he said would happen and didn't? I don't think his followers incel bros care too much about the truth.
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« Reply #101 on: July 05, 2018, 08:10:20 PM »
The reporting on Prado's activities at Blackwater produced no evidence that the firm's employees had ever killed anyone on behalf of the CIA. But I spoke to Blackwater employees who insisted that they had. Two Blackwater contractors told me that their firm began conducting assassinations in Afghanistan as early as 2008. They claimed to have participated in such operations -- one in a support role, the other as a "trigger puller." The contractors, to whom I spoke in 2009 and 2010, were both ex-Special Forces soldiers who were not particularly bothered by assassination work, although they did question the legality of Blackwater's involvement in it.
According to the "trigger puller," he and a partner were selected for one such operation because they were Mexican Americans, whose darker skin enabled them to blend in as Afghan civilians. The first mission he described took place in 2008. He and his partner spent three weeks training outside Kabul, becoming accustomed to walking barefoot like Afghans while toting weapons underneath their jackets. Their mission centered on walking into a market and killing the occupant of a pickup truck, whose identity a CIA case worker had provided to them. They succeeded in their mission, he told me, and moved on to another. This contractor's story didn't completely fit with other accounts about Prado's unit at Blackwater. The e-mail written by Prado and later obtained by the Times seemed to indicate that the unit wouldn't use Americans to carry out actual assassinations. Moreover, two CIA sources insisted that the contractors I spoke to were lying. As one put it, "These guys are security guards who want to look like Rambo."

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While Blackwater's covert unit began as a Bush administration story, President Obama now owns it. In 2010, his administration intervened on behalf of the Blackwater executives indicted for weapons trafficking, filing motions to suppress evidence on the grounds that it could compromise national security. The administration then awarded Blackwater (which is now called Academi) a $250 million contract to perform unspecified services for the CIA. At the same time, Obama has publicly taken responsibility for some lethal operations -- the Navy SEALs' sniper attack on Somali pirates, the raid on bin Laden. His aides have also said that he reviews target lists for drone strikes. The president's actions give him the appearance of a man who wants the best of both worlds. He appears as a tough, resolute leader when he announces his role in killings that will likely be popular -- a pirate, a terrorist. But the apparatus for less accountable killings grinds on.
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« Reply #102 on: July 05, 2018, 08:12:57 PM »
Apparently qanon screwed up and posted a photo that he supposedly took inside Air Force One but was easily proven to be a publicly available image from Obama's presidency, and a lot of his followers have been disillusioned. I wonder what hungrynoob's take is.

Clearly this was a ruse to throw the deep state off his track!
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« Reply #103 on: July 05, 2018, 09:19:29 PM »
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I think the one thing that stands out to me is, the age of the people in attendance. I've never seen so many stuffy old people in one room at the same time. You know when you're in a hurry and you have to try and navigate past old people walking in front of you? Imagine getting stuck inbetween this lot when they are leaving. lol





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« Reply #104 on: July 05, 2018, 10:06:45 PM »
Yeah. I guess it's like old people walking in the countryside. It's an opportunity to meet up with other old people and keep active.

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« Reply #106 on: July 06, 2018, 12:23:15 AM »
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   It is important to note, that BPOE Elks, Order of the Eastern Star, Shriners, & Moose Lodges are branches of Masonry. I could spend hours going through the demonic symbols in all of them, but with what is presented here and the other article, it should be MORE than enough for anyone who does not want to stand in denial of Jesus Christ to get out. You are warned!

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« Reply #107 on: July 06, 2018, 02:05:29 AM »
Phil Schneider's claims that he and some super soldiers accidentally tunneled into a smelly underground alien base and then got into a gun fight with the unwashed bastards is my favourite conspiracy. I know it total madman nonsense but still I would like it to be true.



Oh yeah, I forgot about that video. You're liable to be linked to it if you spend any time in UFO / aliens circles. The secret Dulce underground alien base is a good one, it's more entertaining than Roswell.
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« Reply #109 on: July 08, 2018, 01:47:55 AM »
I have family members that were in the Masons, I've been in the lodges, I have Mason history books and Mason bibles from like 70 years ago in my house and it's the most boring shit possible. It's exactly the same thing as the Moose or Elks lodges, just old dudes drinking, smoking, and farting while admiring their flags and talking about broads.

Is it different in Europe? Because Propaganda Due fucked shit up in Italy.

The American version is probably just watered down because Americans are r-word-tarded. There’s no way people like Crowley would be so into them if they weren’t into weird power and mysticism shit.
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« Reply #111 on: July 09, 2018, 04:14:25 PM »
Masonic lodges and the like used to be the main way working class people got insurance pre-WW2 I believe.

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« Reply #112 on: July 09, 2018, 04:20:27 PM »
http://www.gorevidalpages.com/2001/09/gore-vidal-meaning-of-timothy-mcveigh.html

"Within days of the bombing, Russell Roe, an assistant county attorney for Geary County, Kansas, sat down with F.B.I. agents and told them about a man in his area known to be involved in anti-government activities. Roe said that the individual resembled John Doe No. 2, and also that this man was said to have been exploding fertilizer bombs on his eastern-Kansas farm prior to the Murrah building explosion. Suzanne James, the woman in the Shawnee County D.A.'s office, told the Feds about the same individual. James says that the government was uninterested in her information. After placing approximately five phone calls to the F.B.I., she gave up. Pottawatomie County sheriff Tony Metcalf gave Subject No. 3's name to the F.B.I. Further, in the fall of 1997, I interviewed Cliff Hall, the owner of The Topeka Metro News. He told me that Subject No. 3 had taken out public notices in his publication. The ads were Freemen-style concoctions dealing with renouncement of citizenship and lien notices. Hall says a Secret Service agent came to his paper to obtain copies of the notices as part of their investigation into Subject No. 3.
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Re: Conspiracy theories
« Reply #113 on: July 09, 2018, 04:51:39 PM »
The FBI/DOJ did want the case closed fairly quickly and seemingly out of hand dismissed tons of evidence indicating that the case may sprawl to others, but most of the conspiracy theories, especially about Muslims usually because of the thin reed that Terry Nichols spent time in the Philippines, aren't really supported by it. It probably was more people who maybe even inadvertently helped those two to acquire things or as you said knew something of what they were up to.

IIRC, one of the points shared by all the various books is that the FBI seemingly was uninterested in who owned the getaway truck or where it even was.

benjipwns

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Re: Conspiracy theories
« Reply #114 on: July 09, 2018, 06:42:46 PM »
the book i posted was all about Muslims behind it, and there's another one that tries to say Saddam was behind it, because people identified a Middle Eastern guy as Suspect No. 2, so he was probably an Iraqi Intelligence agent working with bin Laden obviously

most of the actual investigators or whatever who thought the investigation was botched generally thought the only probable foreign connection was maybe money passed through ten different hands, but that anyone actually involved or could be charged was already within their circles/family/etc. as you noted

i haven't read that book but it's one of the terrorism cases that's always seemed slightly off to me, like the U.S.S. Cole, where there was seemingly a rush to close the case and charge whoever asap...i've since read that the Embassy bombings and others had similar failures to them, that they've never really been given time to work terrorism cases like every other crime

NYC93 was solved in part because the one idiot tried to get his deposit back on the rental van they blew up

edit: solved, not foiled

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Re: Conspiracy theories
« Reply #115 on: July 09, 2018, 07:49:53 PM »
Cerium orchestrated the fall of Neogaf


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Kara

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Re: Conspiracy theories
« Reply #116 on: July 10, 2018, 02:36:21 AM »
The PSL is a crypto-fascist front. This one is funny because the PSL is quite proletarian (which in the U.S. makes it quite nonwhite) and it has a lot of currency among the ISO crowd which is quite white and graduate student.

Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden are narcs. No lizard people or The Man Who Was Thursday, just 2 people making deals to stave off miserable existences in the American carceral apparatus. Chelsea Manning actually responded to a minor left Twitter persona about this one and then quietly disengaged when they pointed out she was still officially on leave. *cue X-Files theme*

Jacobin Magazine is a psyop. Largely rooted in two things: 1. Its meteoric rise from nothing and 2. The illustrious history of its founders' tendency. Somewhat undercut by the fact that Bhaskar Sunkara sounds like an absolute Marcyite these days. (Unless that's just the Deep State breaking with Trump to preserve the international financial order?? :o)

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Re: Conspiracy theories
« Reply #117 on: July 12, 2018, 05:45:20 AM »
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Re: Conspiracy theories
« Reply #118 on: July 16, 2018, 06:30:24 PM »
Bourdain put the Clintons on blast, so maybe his suicide was more of a "suicide": https://popula.com/2018/07/15/bourdain-confidential/

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Bill Clinton, look, the bimbo eruptions—it was fucking monstrous. That would not have flown today. A piece of shit. Entitled, rapey, gropey, grabby, disgusting, and the way that he—and she—destroyed these women and the way that everyone went along, and, and are blind to this! Screamingly apparent hypocrisy and venality. How you can on the one hand howl at the moon about all these other predators. And not at least look back. OK, let’s say, well, it was all consensual: powerful men, starstruck women, okay fine, let’s accept it at its most charitable interpretation. Fine. He is a very charming man, I met him, he’s fucking magnetic.

Wow, yeah. I’ve never seen anything like him.

As is she. When you’re in the room, you think wow, she’s really warm and nice and funny. But the way they efficiently dismantled, destroyed, and shamelessly discredited these women for speaking their truth.

Yeah.

… is unforgivable.
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Re: Conspiracy theories
« Reply #119 on: July 17, 2018, 05:51:14 AM »
Clinton Body Count is unbeaten

Saw this on Joe Rogan's twitter feed today, really made me think

https://www.unilad.co.uk/viral/flat-earthers-think-australia-doesnt-actually-exist/
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