Author Topic: windows 10 is out (Read 52889 times)

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #120 on:** August 07, 2015, 12:44:10 PM »

Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 07, 2015, 12:41:41 PM

So Firefox is a real life browser version of Eevee?

Yes

Himu · « **Reply #121 on:** August 07, 2015, 12:45:34 PM »

what are cyberfox/waterfox/palemoon

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #122 on:** August 07, 2015, 12:50:52 PM »

Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 07, 2015, 12:45:34 PM

what are cyberfox/waterfox/palemoon

Cyber and Water are 64bit Firefox, Palemoon is Firefox Lite, that stubbornly refuses to use that shitty Australis interface, it's also 64bit to put it plainly these just run a hell of a lot better than vanilla Firefox.

Himu · « **Reply #123 on:** August 07, 2015, 12:51:43 PM »

there's a 64 bit FF?

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #124 on:** August 07, 2015, 12:52:39 PM »

Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 07, 2015, 12:51:43 PM

there's a 64 bit FF?

I think there is a beta for 64bit FF, The developer version is also 64bit.

toku · « **Reply #125 on:** August 07, 2015, 12:55:42 PM »

I've been so conditioned to love Chrome it's hard to break away but in those few weeks I do every few months, I use waterfox.
https://www.waterfoxproject.org/

Himu · « **Reply #126 on:** August 07, 2015, 01:07:13 PM »

Firefox is Pokemon browser

the superior browser

Tasty · « **Reply #127 on:** August 07, 2015, 01:42:48 PM »

Chrome is literally a Pokeball tho

MCD · « **Reply #128 on:** August 08, 2015, 11:22:30 AM »

Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on August 07, 2015, 11:26:41 AM

Edge is pretty hot. I like it. May switch.

I'm currently using it. It's fine but need more options (ie why can't I pick my default download location? why can't I manage my bookmarks instead of importing only? etc), and extensions. Some sites are ultra slow due to excessive ADs like Mangastream.

With old IE, I can at least use Tracking Protection List. Here you only have that blocking host trick and that may slow down my system since it affects everything not just the bowser.

MCD · « **Reply #129 on:** August 08, 2015, 11:26:59 AM »

the new start menu is perfectly fine for desktop. no need to use shitty third party apps.

not feeling it on touch though. I've had trouble using my dell venue pro 8 the other day. 8.1 was better imo overall for touch devices.

Big Hoops · « **Reply #130 on:** August 08, 2015, 11:53:25 PM »

What the hell is GROOVE MUSIC?

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #131 on:** August 09, 2015, 12:10:37 AM »

Quote from: MCD on August 08, 2015, 11:26:59 AM

the new start menu is perfectly fine for desktop. no need to use shitty third party apps.

not feeling it on touch though. I've had trouble using my dell venue pro 8 the other day. 8.1 was better imo overall for touch devices.

Nah vanilla start is pretty trash, it makes me yearn for metro.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #132 on:** August 09, 2015, 12:43:35 AM »

Quote from: MCD on August 08, 2015, 11:26:59 AM

the new start menu is perfectly fine for desktop. no need to use shitty third party apps.

Not when it's hiding applications you install, no. I don't have all the folders I had in Classic Shells start menu, for instance. Paint and Task Manager are buried under Windows Accessories, my most used programs aren't listed on Start but other programs that I haven't ever used.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #133 on:** August 09, 2015, 01:12:42 AM »

re: Paint, first thing I did was right click -> pin to start. Problem solved there

Now I do miss having my commonly used programs (like Excel) in the start menu with the arrow to select my recently used files. Can't see how to do that now.

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #134 on:** August 09, 2015, 04:29:48 PM »

Quote from: thisismyusername on August 09, 2015, 12:43:35 AM

Quote from: MCD on August 08, 2015, 11:26:59 AM
the new start menu is perfectly fine for desktop. no need to use shitty third party apps.

Not when it's hiding applications you install, no. I don't have all the folders I had in Classic Shells start menu, for instance. Paint and Task Manager are buried under Windows Accessories, my most used programs aren't listed on Start but other programs that I haven't ever used.

I ran into that problem with Classic shell, that and it not showing my Metro apps. So far the only ones that work right are:

Startisback++
Startmenu X

Himu · « **Reply #135 on:** August 13, 2015, 11:45:49 PM »

Every time I reboot or start up from shut down, and I try to play a game, it doesn't recognize my controller and I have to reinstall xinput. Help

thisismyusername · « **Reply #136 on:** August 14, 2015, 12:32:28 AM »

Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 13, 2015, 11:45:49 PM

Every time I reboot or start up from shut down, and I try to play a game, it doesn't recognize my controller and I have to reinstall xinput. Help

Uninstall Xinput completely.

Reboot.

Plug-in 360 controller. It should install a new 360 controller driver. If it's still doing that, look into the Xinput wrapper I guess and see if that stomps the problem out.

Quote from: pilonv1 on August 09, 2015, 01:12:42 AM

re: Paint, first thing I did was right click -> pin to start. Problem solved there

That's a round-about/circling around the problem. Yes, that works. No, that doesn't solve the fact that MS continues to bury shit that wasn't buried before.

Quote from: D3RANG3D on August 09, 2015, 04:29:48 PM

Quote from: thisismyusername on August 09, 2015, 12:43:35 AM
Quote from: MCD on August 08, 2015, 11:26:59 AM
the new start menu is perfectly fine for desktop. no need to use shitty third party apps.

Not when it's hiding applications you install, no. I don't have all the folders I had in Classic Shells start menu, for instance. Paint and Task Manager are buried under Windows Accessories, my most used programs aren't listed on Start but other programs that I haven't ever used.

I ran into that problem with Classic shell, that and it not showing my Metro apps. So far the only ones that work right are:

Startisback++
Startmenu X

AFAIK it happened when I uninstalled Classic Shell, so yeah it may be a problem. But I think reopening applications eventually will repopulate it. It's a weird bug since I wish I could just pin programs to that side instead of the Metro side of the menu.

Himu · « **Reply #137 on:** August 14, 2015, 12:47:25 AM »

Huh? I AM using the xinput wrapper.

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #138 on:** August 14, 2015, 01:10:26 AM »

Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 14, 2015, 12:47:25 AM

Huh? I AM using the xinput wrapper.

Go to devices and printers in the control panel right click and remove your controller, I am assuming you are using a 360 controller install the xbox 360 controller drivers from Microsoft's website.

Himu · « **Reply #139 on:** August 14, 2015, 01:16:14 AM »

No I'm using ps3.

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #140 on:** August 14, 2015, 01:21:33 AM »

Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 14, 2015, 01:16:14 AM

No I'm using ps3.

http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Controller:DualShock_3

Himu · « **Reply #141 on:** August 14, 2015, 01:25:54 AM »

On 8, all I did was install ms 360 driver and then xinput wrapper and was good to go. Could even get wireless with the bluetooth adapter I made. On W10, it works plugged doing the same steps that are on that site you linked, and then when I reboot, the controller cannot be recognized and I need to uninstall wrapper and reinstall to use it again.

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #142 on:** August 14, 2015, 03:23:09 AM »

Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 14, 2015, 01:25:54 AM

On 8, all I did was install ms 360 driver and then xinput wrapper and was good to go. Could even get wireless with the bluetooth adapter I made. On W10, it works plugged doing the same steps that are on that site you linked, and then when I reboot, the controller cannot be recognized and I need to uninstall wrapper and reinstall to use it again.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/541907675758873662/

Maybe this will work, I tried asking Gaf but got ignored so far.

Edit

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=175387854&postcount=5370

Truth be told, all these solutions, I read up on one said to disable dns and manually type in your IP address because apparently that can somehow fuck with the wrapper, the other is in the above link to disable driver signing sound pretty sketchy to me.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #143 on:** August 16, 2015, 11:28:24 PM »

I'm having the same problem, Himu. I dunno what caused it (an update for Windows?) but here's a solution even if it's annoying to do:

If you still have the wrapper download, go into it's folder. The SCPServer will find your plugged in controller and allow you to use it in applications as if nothing happened. You'll need to leave that running (so put it in another virtual desktop if it bothers you for window clutter) but that should help you even if it's a "work around" that isn't a perma solution to the problem.

Speaking of things: I just opened Glasswire for the first time since upgrading and "Search and Cortana application" was connecting to "any.edge.bing.com." So much for telling Cortana "no, I don't want you snooping through my shit and reporting to Microsoft."

Himu · « **Reply #144 on:** August 16, 2015, 11:39:06 PM »

Huh? Virtual desktop? And go to the SCPServer.exe that installs the wrapper to begin with? Just leave it on?

thisismyusername · « **Reply #145 on:** August 16, 2015, 11:47:26 PM »

Quote from: Queen of Ice on August 16, 2015, 11:39:06 PM

Huh? Virtual desktop?

Sorry, *NIX term. "Task View" is what Windows 10 calls it. You click that and it'll show your windows with a "+" for a new "Virtual Desktop" that basically allows you to put certain programs in certain "Desktops" to unclutter your desktop.

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And go to the SCPServer.exe that installs the wrapper to begin with? Just leave it on?

The wrapper installs with SCPdriver.exe

SCPServer.exe will pop-open a window with some technical stuff that you don't really need to worry about. So long as that is "open"/executed your DS3 will work as it did previously. Why you need that on when the wrapper was working before whatever update broke it, I dunno.

Himu · « **Reply #146 on:** August 16, 2015, 11:50:33 PM »

Yeah I don't get it. I hope there's a fix soon. Thank you.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #147 on:** August 16, 2015, 11:54:42 PM »

Nevermind.

Himu · « **Reply #148 on:** August 16, 2015, 11:55:20 PM »

Huh? I understand what to do. I said "I don't get it" in reference to why this is fucking up like this despite apparently working after initially installing.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #149 on:** August 16, 2015, 11:57:45 PM »

Oh. $:-\$ My bad. I misread then.

Himu · « **Reply #150 on:** August 17, 2015, 12:30:08 AM »

http://techcrunch.com/2015/08/16/microsoft-drops-another-windows-10-update/

nachobro · « **Reply #151 on:** August 17, 2015, 12:50:48 AM »

Upgraded from 8.1 a few days ago so I could do the game streaming from Xbone. Seems pretty good. I like the new start menu. Doesn't seem to start up or run noticeably faster than 8.1.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #152 on:** August 17, 2015, 03:33:13 PM »

I got hella lag when I tried the game streaming feature (I'd guess 200ms), it's playable for certain games but not shooters/racers.

nachobro · « **Reply #153 on:** August 17, 2015, 05:04:58 PM »

Oh that's a bummer. Well I'll give it a shot and see how it feels. If it sucks, at least the update was free.

Rufus · « **Reply #154 on:** August 22, 2015, 09:56:26 AM »

I really don't like how opaque and seemingly random the update process is. My screen just went black and I briefly thought my monitor broke, but no, it was just an update to my display driver. I noticed my harddrive being taxed even after this and it turns out Windows Defender was doing a definitions update.

How about a warning at the very least?

chronovore · « **Reply #155 on:** January 30, 2016, 05:18:23 PM »

15GB of space on OneDrive will need to be claimed if you want it:
http://www.winbeta.org/news/dont-forget-claim-free-onedrive-storage-weekend-lose-forever

Also, OT, I upgraded my lame-ass Gateway PC to Win10 and it is operating much more speedily than its previous Win7 self. Color me stunned.

VomKriege · « **Reply #156 on:** February 14, 2016, 02:25:28 AM »

Upgraded the missus computer since Windows 8.1 decided suddenly that her account was broken and could only operate on temp files (apparently a common issue) only for the wifi card to not work anymore... Turns out I just had to update the driver but I'm a bit baffled that it's not an automatic checkbox to upgrade it along with the OS when it's the very same connection used to do all the updating stuff even though it's not the same manufacturer...

Otherwise the layout is a step up from the horrific 8 stuff.

chronovore · « **Reply #157 on:** February 14, 2016, 04:54:20 PM »

Isn't there a warning dialog which shows in the desktop, but not in the opened, fullscreen game client?

Rufus · « **Reply #158 on:** February 14, 2016, 04:58:45 PM »

The only time I notice that an update has been downloaded or already installed is on shutdown on boot. I've yet to spot something that informs me of an update in progress.

I should probably look more closely for an option to surface the process. I've found less than a handful of user configurable options that have anything to do with update.

chronovore · « **Reply #159 on:** February 14, 2016, 06:00:29 PM »

I guess I mean even those 120-second countdown warning dialogs, which may not draw focus if you're in a different fullscreen app.

I remember working in Win NT and coming back from lunch to find that my PC had rebooted itself for an update. The few times I'd forgotten to save before leaving the workstation were... troubling.

Rufus · « **Reply #160 on:** February 15, 2016, 03:02:16 AM »

Nope. It just let's you know when an update was applied. It's entirely oblique otherwise. Doesn't steal focus, nag you to restart (or postpone it), nothing. The latter is a definite improvement.

archnemesis · « **Reply #161 on:** February 15, 2016, 03:38:22 AM »

With the new improvements it only takes 20-25 seconds to boot up my computer so I've gotten into the habit of turning off my computer every night. Most updates will install in the background when you shut down the operating system.

bork · « **Reply #162 on:** March 06, 2016, 10:23:17 PM »

Waited long enough and just upgraded my laptop to Win 10. Very impressed at how quickly it all went and I haven't had a single issue.

I think I may keep my Asus Chi on 8.1 though. Part of the reason I got it is because the T100HA I got with Win 10 last year ran like butt.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #163 on:** March 06, 2016, 11:22:59 PM »

That's odd. Windows 10 seemed to be less of a resource hog than 7 and 8.

Also this seems to be a good place to ask but what's a good Windows computer for doing art stuff? I assume it needs one of those wacom/n-trig active stylus things but I don't know what else to look for. It needs to also be a good laptop for 90% of its usage.

bork · « **Reply #164 on:** March 07, 2016, 12:19:10 AM »

Perhaps I spoke to soon. I started having issues with my Internet connection dropping every 20-30 minutes. $:-\$ Tried updating the drivers and also unchecked the option to turn off the wifi and ethernet drivers to "save power" under the device manager settings. Hope that does it. Also have an issue with an old G-Drive going to sleep and waking up too often. Had this same problem on Win 7 and 8 but the fix used for those isn't working.

Quote from: brawndolicious on March 06, 2016, 11:22:59 PM

That's odd. Windows 10 seemed to be less of a resource hog than 7 and 8.

I'm sure a good part of it was the tablet just not being optimized well to work with it, but I've used four ASUS Windows tablets since they started putting them out, and only the Win 10 model one ran like shit. Slow to start up, applications took too long to start going, etc. Blazing fast with Windows 8.

Reb · « **Reply #165 on:** March 07, 2016, 01:52:48 AM »

My T100 runs great with Windows 10!

bork · « **Reply #166 on:** March 07, 2016, 09:56:08 AM »

Quote from: Reb on March 07, 2016, 01:52:48 AM

My T100 runs great with Windows 10!

You upgraded or bought an HA?

Reb · « **Reply #167 on:** March 07, 2016, 10:43:49 AM »

I don't know what a HA is, but I ran the Insider Preview and then upgraded when Windows 10 came out.
At some point I had to quit the Insider Program and revert to a stable version because it was giving me too much trouble.
But since then everything works fine.

I use it for work, browsing, some Netflix.

bork · « **Reply #168 on:** March 07, 2016, 10:49:56 AM »

HA is the newest model that came out last year. Has an aluminum body (although the keyboard is plastic), 4GB of RAM, and Win 10.

I got this model and found it performed significantly worse than the T100 I got in 2013. Slow to boot up, slow for apps to open, etc. The speakers also sucked and the keyboard was made of very flimsy plastic. So I returned it and tried the T100 Chi, which is the premium model-- all metal, thinner and lighter, has a 1920x1200 screen, etc. The speakers STILL aren't as good as the original T100, but it's a nice little upgrade. I'm interested in upgrading it to Windows 10 but my experience with it on the T100HA really soured me.

Beezy · « **Reply #169 on:** March 07, 2016, 11:54:16 PM »

Why did my PC just upgrade from W7 to W10 without me telling it to? I'm so annoyed and confused right now...

Edit: Nvm, switching back was quick and easy.

chronovore · « **Reply #170 on:** March 08, 2016, 01:05:40 AM »

Quote from: Beezy on March 07, 2016, 11:54:16 PM

Why did my PC just upgrade from W7 to W10 without me telling it to? I'm so annoyed and confused right now...

I don't think it can do that. Does anyone else have access to your computer? I signed up my wife's PC for the upgrade, but I still had to actually initiate the install on my own.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #171 on:** March 08, 2016, 06:00:47 AM »

Got the spinning white circle of death on startup last night. Had to roll back to the previous version

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #172 on:** March 08, 2016, 01:22:50 PM »

Updated my work machine to W10, and now I can't get to Google. Chrome is completely borked and I can't navigate to Google in MS Edge. Flushed my DNS, reinstalled Chrome, still screwed. Thanks Microsoft.

Rufus · « **Reply #173 on:** March 08, 2016, 03:05:12 PM »

For once, early adopters seem to have a better experience.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #174 on:** March 08, 2016, 03:42:15 PM »

Yes, Windows 10 is now considered a "recommended" update and will automatically go through if you do Windows Updates.

Which you should, because there's no reason not to update to Win10

Bebpo · « **Reply #175 on:** March 09, 2016, 01:42:37 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on March 08, 2016, 03:42:15 PM

Yes, Windows 10 is now considered a "recommended" update and will automatically go through if you do Windows Updates.

Which you should, because there's no reason not to update to Win10

Fuck my computer just did this. Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I hold off on upgrading to new operating systems for a few years because I play a lot of games from all generations, so some times I'll play dosbox stuff from the 90s, or mods from early 00s and sometimes new operating systems break old games compatibility because no one cares.

Do we know if GoG games work on W10?

Rufus · « **Reply #176 on:** March 09, 2016, 01:45:59 PM »

They do. I think they've announced support not long after the free upgrade became available.

Fake edit:
https://www.gog.com/news/news_getting_ready_for_windows_10

Reb · « **Reply #177 on:** March 09, 2016, 02:26:04 PM »

Jup, I played Theme Hospital on win10.

archnemesis · « **Reply #178 on:** March 09, 2016, 02:33:38 PM »

Most GOG games work, but there are exceptions. Deadlock 2: Shrine Wars is currently incompatible with Win 10. It's supposed to work fine on Win 7.

chronovore · « **Reply #179 on:** March 09, 2016, 09:16:41 PM »

Quote from: archnemesis on March 09, 2016, 02:33:38 PM

Most GOG games work, but there are exceptions. Deadlock 2: Shrine Wars is currently incompatible with Win 10. It's supposed to work fine on Win 7.

Holy shit, a Deadlock player? My god, The Bore never ceased to provide...

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