Author Topic: windows 10 is out (Read 52888 times)

Atramental · « **Reply #240 on:** June 08, 2016, 11:47:43 PM »

Usually that can be remedied by making the buttons a distinct color from the rest of the layout and by adding a hover/click animation:
http://tympanus.net/Development/ButtonStylesInspiration/

chronovore · « **Reply #241 on:** June 09, 2016, 12:24:33 AM »

Quote from: Pallando on June 08, 2016, 11:47:43 PM

Usually that can be remedied by making the buttons a distinct color from the rest of the layout and by adding a hover/click animation:
http://tympanus.net/Development/ButtonStylesInspiration/

Sure, but in touch interfaces where "hover" isn't in play, that's more difficult. OTOH, those buttons are all CLEARLY BUTTONS. Adding a right-facing carat does not make a button out of a header.

chronovore · « **Reply #242 on:** June 09, 2016, 12:27:22 AM »

This shit is seriously wrong-headed. It would be forgivable if tapping on either header would also progress to a usable screen, but they don't.

Recently I also found that in iOS Music.app, the full-width headers for "Album," "Artist," and such are actually TWO interactive elements; the cover-art on the left functions as a Play button. The text on its right will drill down into the topic. Some, but not all cases show a Play button. For instance, Genre doesn't have the button, but still functions.

And, of course beyond any reason, tvOS on AppleTV doesn't support this functionality in its implementation, though it has separate "select" (GlassTouch click) and Play buttons.

Steaming pool of bovine diarrhea.

Atramental · « **Reply #243 on:** June 09, 2016, 12:40:46 AM »

Ah, I see.

A quick fix would be making those arrows blue like the "< General" one at the top.

I could probably think up of another way to make iOS Setting's UX/UI much intuitive but it's 12:30 am and I need to sleep.

Kara · « **Reply #244 on:** June 09, 2016, 02:47:03 PM »

That's the direction things are going though? One of the bicycle sites I frequent got a slick but inferior redesign recently and part of their rationale was that 50+% of their views were from mobile alone.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #245 on:** June 09, 2016, 02:51:58 PM »

I have a bunch of very sophisticated opinions on this stuff but every time I start writing a post I get about two sentences in and think "this is so complicated and is going to waste a ton of my emotional energy and nobody will understand or care anyway" and ragequit the browser =\

Tasty · « **Reply #246 on:** June 09, 2016, 04:21:47 PM »

Quote from: Dufus on June 09, 2016, 03:53:13 PM

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on June 09, 2016, 02:51:58 PM
I have a bunch of very sophisticated opinions on this stuff but every time I start writing a post I get about two sentences in and think "this is so complicated and is going to waste a ton of my emotional energy and nobody will understand or care anyway" and ragequit the browser =\

sophisticated?

design isn't that hard tbh

i could probably shit out a better UI for Windows 10 within a few days (Image removed from quote.)

Atramental · « **Reply #247 on:** June 09, 2016, 04:38:39 PM »

Please tell me you're not using Gimp anymore, Ruzbeh.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #248 on:** June 09, 2016, 05:05:50 PM »

chronovore · « **Reply #249 on:** June 09, 2016, 05:31:44 PM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on June 09, 2016, 02:51:58 PM

I have a bunch of very sophisticated opinions on this stuff but every time I start writing a post I get about two sentences in and think "this is so complicated and is going to waste a ton of my emotional energy and nobody will understand or care anyway" and ragequit the browser =\

The only part in of this sentence that I care about is missing: did you ragequit via a keyboard shortcut, or use a difficult-to-identify button to do it?

Kara · « **Reply #250 on:** June 09, 2016, 05:37:54 PM »

Control + W

Tasty · « **Reply #251 on:** June 09, 2016, 05:45:58 PM »

Dude obviously browses with Vim, so :q

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #252 on:** June 09, 2016, 08:05:30 PM »

Quote from: Kara on June 09, 2016, 02:47:03 PM

That's the direction things are going though? One of the bicycle sites I frequent got a slick but inferior redesign recently and part of their rationale was that 50+% of their views were from mobile alone.

How embarrassing is it when you pass a fellow peddler and you're both browsing the same bicycle forum in one hand while wanking off with the other?

chronovore · « **Reply #253 on:** June 09, 2016, 08:15:30 PM »

Quote from: Dufus on June 09, 2016, 03:53:13 PM

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on June 09, 2016, 02:51:58 PM
I have a bunch of very sophisticated opinions on this stuff but every time I start writing a post I get about two sentences in and think "this is so complicated and is going to waste a ton of my emotional energy and nobody will understand or care anyway" and ragequit the browser =\

sophisticated?

design isn't that hard tbh

i could probably shit out a better UI for Windows 10 within a few days (Image removed from quote.)

Please tell me you're joking.

Go ahead and have your own stupid opinions, but casually dismissing the difficult work of others as simple or uncomplicated without being to perform it is unacceptable. I get enough of that every time Trump opens his mouth.

bluemax · « **Reply #254 on:** June 09, 2016, 11:19:37 PM »

Today Windows 10 told me that the XBox One software development kit might be dangerous to install.

benjipwns · « **Reply #255 on:** June 10, 2016, 02:03:10 PM »

Quote from: chronovore on June 09, 2016, 08:15:30 PM

Please tell me you're joking.

Go ahead and have your own stupid opinions, but casually dismissing the difficult work of others as simple or uncomplicated without being to perform it is unacceptable. I get enough of that every time Trump opens his mouth.

I could easily draw something better and record all the sounds in my bedroom. Probably takes a weekend tops. A week if I do it on my shit-posting down time.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #256 on:** June 13, 2016, 03:25:34 PM »

Quote from: bluemax on June 09, 2016, 11:19:37 PM

Today Windows 10 told me that the XBox One software development kit might be dangerous to install.

It's to scare away pansy sfags.

Tasty · « **Reply #257 on:** June 27, 2016, 12:41:46 PM »

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/230794-woman-wins-10000-judgment-against-microsoft-for-forced-windows-10-upgrade

chronovore · « **Reply #258 on:** June 27, 2016, 06:09:19 PM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on June 27, 2016, 12:41:46 PM

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/230794-woman-wins-10000-judgment-against-microsoft-for-forced-windows-10-upgrade

ExtremeTech is one of those websites with the "ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO LEAVE?" alerts on page-exit. I dislike those even more than "This page wants to know your location" or "This page wants to set up a second home in your Alert Center. That's cool, right?" You're a web page. Get over yourself.

Rufus · « **Reply #259 on:** July 11, 2016, 04:14:35 PM »

Just give in already, you know you want to.

Rufus · « **Reply #260 on:** July 11, 2016, 04:33:06 PM »

I've looked at that sub a couple of times, but every time I'm struck by how pointless all that customization is when all you'll be staring at websites, videos or fullscreen video games most of the time.

Tiling window managers especially make absolutely no sense to me, outside of wanting to keep your hands on the keyboard.

Rufus · « **Reply #261 on:** July 11, 2016, 05:02:13 PM »

So what do you do on a day to day basis with the command line, personally?

Tasty · « **Reply #262 on:** July 11, 2016, 05:15:35 PM »

Wish I could install Gnome on this Macbook. $:-\$

Rufus · « **Reply #263 on:** July 11, 2016, 05:27:54 PM »

Quote from: Dufus on July 11, 2016, 05:06:56 PM

there are some neat advantages to cli based stuff though... like music

I never delved deep into CLI stuff. The only CLI applications I use semi-regularly are livestreamer and youtube-dl.

I have to refer to cheat sheets to even remember all the other useful built-in stuff, much less use them.

Tasty · « **Reply #264 on:** July 11, 2016, 05:32:49 PM »

Quote from: Dufus on July 11, 2016, 05:22:30 PM

Lol. Gnome?

Linux GUIs have always been trash.

Gnome 3 is the best modern desktop UI.

Rufus · « **Reply #265 on:** July 24, 2016, 07:00:51 PM »

I knew you'd come around, you fickle bitch.

Rufus · « **Reply #266 on:** July 25, 2016, 07:02:33 AM »

Yup, the old one is still in there. I have no idea why they doubled up like that. I just made a shortcut for the old one and use that exclusively. ...I guess I answered my own question there.

Tasty · « **Reply #267 on:** July 25, 2016, 09:59:40 AM »

Presumably the new and shiny one doesn't have all the options so they kept the old one around for power users.

Same thing with bundling both Edge and IE. Gotta have something to access corporate websites.

I imagine by Windows 11 or whatever they'll both be phased out completely.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #268 on:** July 25, 2016, 10:17:17 AM »

The new one is tablet and touch friendly.

Related: This week I'm going to be rolling out a mass Windows 10 migration to a client of mine, 80+ workstations. Here's hoping it's only a minor disaster!

Tasty · « **Reply #269 on:** July 25, 2016, 01:41:19 PM »

http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/25/12269736/microsoft-windows-10-anniversary-update-features-review

Some pretty good refinements here.

chronovore · « **Reply #270 on:** July 25, 2016, 04:45:09 PM »

Quote from: Dufus on July 25, 2016, 03:51:00 PM

Ugh. The Japanese font in Windows 10 renders way too thin. What the hell is this trash??

Japanese system fonts in Windows have always been garbage. It was a mistake.

Momo · « **Reply #271 on:** July 25, 2016, 05:26:37 PM »

havent had a single problem with 10 since I upgraded, I'm impressed with how MS handled this

bork · « **Reply #272 on:** July 28, 2016, 07:38:07 AM »

Quote from: Momo on July 25, 2016, 05:26:37 PM

havent had a single problem with 10 since I upgraded, I'm impressed with how MS handled this

I still have a problem with one external hard drive constantly disconnecting/reconnecting itself when it 'wakes up'. This was also a problem with Windows 7 and 8, but there was an easy fix that doesn't work on 10.

But it IS just that one HDD and it's getting to the point that I might as well just replace it anyway. It's like six years old now.

Momo · « **Reply #273 on:** July 28, 2016, 07:42:17 AM »

Quote from: bork pls on July 28, 2016, 07:38:07 AM

Quote from: Momo on July 25, 2016, 05:26:37 PM
havent had a single problem with 10 since I upgraded, I'm impressed with how MS handled this

I still have a problem with one external hard drive constantly disconnecting/reconnecting itself when it 'wakes up'. This was also a problem with Windows 7 and 8, but there was an easy fix that doesn't work on 10.

But it IS just that one HDD and it's getting to the point that I might as well just replace it anyway. It's like six years old now.

Write a small service/batch file that does this

ping www.google.com -t >>[DRIVE-LETTER]:\hidden-folder\keep-alivething.txt

Your drive wont go to sleep again unless you stop the service

Huff · « **Reply #274 on:** July 28, 2016, 07:45:54 AM »

Upgrading to Windows 10 on my laptop.

Did everyone upgrade gaming PCs or leave as is?

Rufus · « **Reply #275 on:** July 28, 2016, 07:48:35 AM »

You'll eventually have to update for DX12, so you might as well do it now.

bork · « **Reply #276 on:** July 28, 2016, 07:57:25 AM »

Quote from: Momo on July 28, 2016, 07:42:17 AM

Quote from: bork pls on July 28, 2016, 07:38:07 AM
Quote from: Momo on July 25, 2016, 05:26:37 PM
havent had a single problem with 10 since I upgraded, I'm impressed with how MS handled this

I still have a problem with one external hard drive constantly disconnecting/reconnecting itself when it 'wakes up'. This was also a problem with Windows 7 and 8, but there was an easy fix that doesn't work on 10.

But it IS just that one HDD and it's getting to the point that I might as well just replace it anyway. It's like six years old now.
Write a small service/batch file that does this

ping www.google.com -t >>[DRIVE-LETTER]:\hidden-folder\keep-alivething.txt

Your drive wont go to sleep again unless you stop the service

Have seen that but would prefer to just have a HDD that doesn't have this problem. It's just 1TB and those are pretty cheap these days.

Quote from: Huff on July 28, 2016, 07:45:54 AM

Upgrading to Windows 10 on my laptop.

Did everyone upgrade gaming PCs or leave as is?

Upgraded on my gaming laptop; didn't even think about trying it on the Windows tablets that we have. I had a bad experience with 10 on a T100 last year and returned it for a slightly older model with 8.1, which worked much better. But to be fair that's because it was cheaper hardware and things weren't optimized well on it.

I just ordered a Surface Pro 4. That will be my first real experience with 10 using a touch screen.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #277 on:** July 28, 2016, 08:00:18 AM »

Quote from: bork pls on July 28, 2016, 07:57:25 AM

I just ordered a Surface Pro 4. That will be my first real experience with 10 using a touch screen.

It'll work, but not as well as 8.1 seems to be the common consensus with Tablets. I only use Tablet mode with Kindle and Zinio on mine.

Otherwise I'm using the "laptop" mode about 90% of the time.

VomKriege · « **Reply #278 on:** July 29, 2016, 02:34:08 AM »

W10 on a smartphone works OK

benjipwns · « **Reply #279 on:** July 29, 2016, 04:22:52 AM »

Quote from: Huff on July 28, 2016, 07:45:54 AM

Upgrading to Windows 10 on my laptop.

Did everyone upgrade gaming PCs or leave as is?

Quote from: Rufus on July 28, 2016, 07:48:35 AM

You'll eventually have to update for DX12, so you might as well do it now.

Yeah, I upgraded for DX12. I haven't really ran into anything serious other than a minor mobo related bug which was not technically Windows' fault. (The BIOS had to be flashed to correct how it identified itself without drivers present, Windows 7 didn't like it either.)

Compability issues on games aren't as bad as they were last year. Most of it I find are games demanding I upgrade to Windows 98SE or Windows ME from my outdated OS.

But a lot of stuff now has fixes for that, most of it seems tied to dead DRM or weird installers. Like when you upgrade Crysis (to use one example) with the patch that removed SecuROM or whatever, the error goes away.

Actually, most everything I've had problems with are the free games EA accidentally gave away on Origin.

bork · « **Reply #280 on:** July 29, 2016, 07:10:18 AM »

Quote from: Dufus on July 28, 2016, 10:15:47 AM

Quote from: bork pls on July 28, 2016, 07:38:07 AM
Quote from: Momo on July 25, 2016, 05:26:37 PM
havent had a single problem with 10 since I upgraded, I'm impressed with how MS handled this

I still have a problem with one external hard drive constantly disconnecting/reconnecting itself when it 'wakes up'. This was also a problem with Windows 7 and 8, but there was an easy fix that doesn't work on 10.

But it IS just that one HDD and it's getting to the point that I might as well just replace it anyway. It's like six years old now.

how long is the USB cable that's connecting the hard drive to the computer? if it's a long cable that could cause problems. using a very short USB cable could solve that problem

Over 12".

Could that really cause a problem?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #281 on:** July 29, 2016, 07:43:19 AM »

Last day of free upgrades. I still have about 30 machines to get upgrades today. Yay.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #282 on:** July 29, 2016, 09:15:48 AM »

I upgraded. seems as good as 7 and 8 so far.

kick51 · « **Reply #283 on:** July 29, 2016, 11:46:37 AM »

my fuckin taskbar gets randomly locked all the time and the start+search buttons work for about a minute after boot, then clicking on them does nothing.

Somehow the problem has only been getting worse since my install months ago. The start/search buttons might break once a week before, now it's almost immediately after boot.

otherwise, solid OS for now, but it sounds like they're about to start heavily fucking with it by forcing Cortana and shit

brawndolicious · « **Reply #284 on:** July 29, 2016, 12:57:29 PM »

Quote from: Dufus on July 28, 2016, 10:17:21 AM

Quote from: thisismyusername on July 28, 2016, 08:00:18 AM
Quote from: bork pls on July 28, 2016, 07:57:25 AM
I just ordered a Surface Pro 4. That will be my first real experience with 10 using a touch screen.

It'll work, but not as well as 8.1 seems to be the common consensus with Tablets.

So Windows 8 wasn't that good for PC but good for tablets.

Windows 10 is good for PC but not so good for tablets.

Why won't Microsoft understand that this whole unified OS thing is just a bunch of bullshit and you need to separate operating systems? Just do like Apple does ffs.

Windows 10 is the best solution for those 2-in-1s that have laptop and tablet mode (ie: Lenovo Yoga or Surface Pro). Some of us actually like flipping between swiping and using a trackpad. :shrug

benjipwns · « **Reply #285 on:** July 29, 2016, 02:16:37 PM »

finally, august 2nd is coming with the most important update

Quote

Clock now shows on all monitors in a multi-monitor setup

thank you bill

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #286 on:** November 16, 2016, 03:11:38 PM »

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-completes-its-linux-journey-joins-the-linux-foundation/

Tasty · « **Reply #287 on:** November 16, 2016, 04:01:35 PM »

Quote from: Dufus on November 16, 2016, 04:00:23 PM

so how the hell do you use bash on windows

I still don't get it

where's my terminal?

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=bash+windows

literally the first link

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #288 on:** January 06, 2017, 07:55:02 PM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1330969

Valkyrie · « **Reply #289 on:** January 06, 2017, 08:22:08 PM »

Man, that looks quite hideous.

Rufus · « **Reply #290 on:** January 06, 2017, 08:44:57 PM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=227716941&postcount=47

I didn't know Groove Music existed. Outside of the weather thing I don't use a single UWP app, so...

Valkyrie · « **Reply #291 on:** January 06, 2017, 09:11:27 PM »

Quote from: Rufus on January 06, 2017, 08:44:57 PM

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=227716941&postcount=47

I didn't know Groove Music existed. Outside of the weather thing I don't use a single UWP app, so...

I didn't install any of the apps either, since a lot of them have gotten really bad reviews (like Twitter).

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #292 on:** January 06, 2017, 09:27:26 PM »

I use the calculator, and grover podcast pretty good podcast app and xbox to bother my roommate.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

UWP is trash though.

[close]

thisismyusername · « **Reply #293 on:** January 06, 2017, 10:42:10 PM »

Quote from: butt on January 06, 2017, 09:11:27 PM

Quote from: Rufus on January 06, 2017, 08:44:57 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=227716941&postcount=47

I didn't know Groove Music existed. Outside of the weather thing I don't use a single UWP app, so...
I didn't install any of the apps either, since a lot of them have gotten really bad reviews (like Twitter).

Twitter wasn't bad at launch, but since I have Chrome open 90% of the time, I just use the website. So...

pointless app for me.

X-box App is about the only one I use, but that's so rarely since I haven't had a console in ages that I dunno why I keep the default apps installed outside the fact MS will attempt to reinstall them later on.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #294 on:** January 07, 2017, 01:55:56 AM »

Quote from: Rufus on January 06, 2017, 08:44:57 PM

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=227716941&postcount=47

I didn't know Groove Music existed. Outside of the weather thing I don't use a single UWP app, so...

Groove eats less ram than mediaplayer.

Rufus · « **Reply #295 on:** January 07, 2017, 08:55:58 AM »

My precious fb2k is using all of 13MB. That said, I mostly stream my music these days, so it's moot either way.

Valkyrie · « **Reply #296 on:** January 07, 2017, 07:01:29 PM »

RIP Winamp. I've yet to find a media player for my local music that I'm very happy with.

Rufus · « **Reply #297 on:** January 08, 2017, 11:16:49 AM »

Man, I remember constantly looking for snazzy themes, but never being satisfied with any of them.

bork · « **Reply #298 on:** January 08, 2017, 01:28:41 PM »

Install some cumulative Windows updates on my Surface. Been a while. Then my displayport to HDMI adapter stopped working. Got another cable...still didn't work.

After doing some basic troubleshooting, I reverted back to the pre-update restore point and the adapters both work fine. It was the fuckin' update.

Trying again now to see if something just didn't complete last time.

chronovore · « **Reply #299 on:** January 08, 2017, 05:35:43 PM »

Quote from: bork pls on January 08, 2017, 01:28:41 PM

Install some cumulative Windows updates on my Surface. Been a while. Then my displayport to HDMI adapter stopped working. Got another cable...still didn't work.

After doing some basic troubleshooting, I reverted back to the pre-update restore point and the adapters both work fine. It was the fuckin' update.

Trying again now to see if something just didn't complete last time.

Thanks! I was feeling strongly like I might switch back to Windows in a year or so, but I'm over it after your post. Those mysterious, hard to troubleshoot bullshit moments feel fewer and further apart in OS X. (OLD MacOS, on the other hand, can still eat a dick for weird inconsistencies.)

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Author Topic: windows 10 is out (Read 52888 times)