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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24480 on: August 16, 2016, 10:43:56 AM »
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=213727101


Apparently Trump was "almost elected"

Still not realizing he never had a hope to begin with and that the media played you probably harder than they ever have in attempt to make this election seem competitive brehs

But he has a point about foreigners! i know for the next few years, meeting strangers in a foreign countries will involve at least one game of 20 questions about Trump, just like with Bush  ::) or if alcohol is involved, 20 questions then unintelligible angry ranting about america
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24482 on: August 16, 2016, 11:14:00 AM »
The art direction in HxH looks good to me.

But those character designs.  :doge
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24483 on: August 16, 2016, 11:27:30 AM »
Isn't XV's open world mostly empty with nothing to do except battle?

Wait, in rpg non-NPC fields, what is there to do besides fight monsters and maybe harvest items or pick up collectibles?  Like am I missing some new exciting content that some rpgs have started including?

You're not  :shh

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« Reply #24484 on: August 16, 2016, 12:03:23 PM »
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24485 on: August 16, 2016, 12:26:44 PM »
HxH is shit-tier art style

Not really up for debate

Jesus Christ you could not have worse taste in anything if you fucking tried.

You deserve leperdom more than methodis.

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« Reply #24486 on: August 16, 2016, 01:10:55 PM »
my taste in cartoon art CANNOT BE QUESTIONED! :bolo

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24487 on: August 16, 2016, 01:27:29 PM »
That dinosaur with tiny hummingbird wings at 0:48 is actually kind of awesome. :lol
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24488 on: August 16, 2016, 01:41:02 PM »


:rofl

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24489 on: August 16, 2016, 01:43:30 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1264125


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213837984&postcount=71

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« Reply #24490 on: August 16, 2016, 01:58:25 PM »
So this is what it feels like to argue with someone on GAF


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« Reply #24491 on: August 16, 2016, 02:16:46 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213835677&postcount=11
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Except Indie games are usually far more revolutionary and innovative than any other type of game.

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« Reply #24492 on: August 16, 2016, 02:43:05 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213852003&postcount=431

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Put it in one of the existing threads. Some guy making another video isn't new news.

HMMM, I wonder which mod this was.

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« Reply #24493 on: August 16, 2016, 02:46:59 PM »

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« Reply #24494 on: August 16, 2016, 02:49:43 PM »

Sex pigs halt traffic after laser attack on Pokémon teens


 That was a lot more accurate than I was expecting.  :-\

Good name for a band. 

The whole thing.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24495 on: August 16, 2016, 02:57:01 PM »
No man's sky is the ultimate indie game. A game that is in love with its own idea more than it being a game. Sometimes this works out for games that are small in scope like Journey or Flower. But the indie games that are rather successful are the ones that pay homage or are in love with something other than themselves (think about games like Undertale or Stardew valley where they're variations on an existing theme). But the truth of the matter is that while an idea is nice, an idea is not enough to carry an entire game. I'm no fan of Kojima or his style but I do remember something he once said about the next generation of game makers. He had said that he was worried because the first generation of game makers were influenced and inspired by the manga the grew up reading. And how his generation had been influenced and inspired by the movies they saw growing up. And he was worried that the next generation of game makers would grow up playing games and they would be making games based on game mechanics and that wouldn't work. No Man's Sky is exactly that. A good idea for tech to be used in an actual game (doing an Sci-Fi RPG with this as the world gen engine would make sense). But instead we get a game that we're supposed to like because the creator thought it was "artistic". Yeah, nothing more emblematic of the indie game scene than that.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24496 on: August 16, 2016, 03:36:30 PM »
No man's sky is the ultimate indie game. A game that is in love with its own idea more than it being a game. Sometimes this works out for games that are small in scope like Journey or Flower. But the indie games that are rather successful are the ones that pay homage or are in love with something other than themselves (think about games like Undertale or Stardew valley where they're variations on an existing theme). But the truth of the matter is that while an idea is nice, an idea is not enough to carry an entire game. I'm no fan of Kojima or his style but I do remember something he once said about the next generation of game makers. He had said that he was worried because the first generation of game makers were influenced and inspired by the manga the grew up reading. And how his generation had been influenced and inspired by the movies they saw growing up. And he was worried that the next generation of game makers would grow up playing games and they would be making games based on game mechanics and that wouldn't work. No Man's Sky is exactly that. A good idea for tech to be used in an actual game (doing an Sci-Fi RPG with this as the world gen engine would make sense). But instead we get a game that we're supposed to like because the creator thought it was "artistic". Yeah, nothing more emblematic of the indie game scene than that.

Thats the smartest thing Kojima ever said maybe

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« Reply #24497 on: August 16, 2016, 04:02:54 PM »
Personally, I think "I'm retiring" was the smartest thing. If only he'd actually do it.
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« Reply #24498 on: August 16, 2016, 04:03:54 PM »
YMMV

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24499 on: August 16, 2016, 04:14:09 PM »
There's plenty of non AAA, small budget and/or non affiliated to big publishers (not using the indie label because it's hard to know what people attach to that nowadays) that are perfectly fine games without sucking the homage titty :yeshrug I think it's unfairly reductive. I'd take Invisible Inc. over a MGS. High budget games are plagued by sequels and a weird complex towards cinema, is that better when it comes to how derivative games are ?

And really I have no beef with NMS the game. Yeah the execution is meh (doesn't simulate actual mechanics, same gravity everywhere...) but it's cool. I'm not even miffed by the price though I would not myself pay 60 bucks for that. The only problem is the ridiculous hype and snowflake effect (lots of games covered that ground partly on PC, from FTL to Elite) which turned the vocal fanbase into insufferable evangelists who can't even reconcile plain contradiction by the lead dev who is perfectly aware of it (he even said he was naive with his latest DLC statement). Those peoples are just substituting a so called indie game instead of an AAA one but they stay as ignorant, non curious and oblivious to the big picture outside the walled garden of their corporate masters.

But yeah people need to stop romanticizing the "indie" label, and yes some games and experiences can only be achieved with a team in the hundreds.
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« Reply #24500 on: August 16, 2016, 05:32:40 PM »
I personally can't wait until FFXV comes out and gets straight 7s

FF stans :neogaf

You have to remember in this new reality post NMS a 5 to 7 score rating is now a 'great' score on Gaf.

And not worth quietly and passively aggressively thread policing and slowly  but surely melting down over at all. No sir. 

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« Reply #24503 on: August 16, 2016, 06:18:03 PM »
Not to defend Hello Games but there's a slight air of consumer infantilization in that thread : Anyone applying a bit of skepticism did see through it years ago, regardless of devs going bonkers with the marketing. Would be nice if all games were advertised truthfully at every moment but meanwhile consumers will continue to have to do due diligence.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24504 on: August 16, 2016, 06:24:06 PM »
That dinosaur with tiny hummingbird wings at 0:48 is actually kind of awesome. :lol

The Streamers reactions when it crashes is straight up killing me. 12:52 or so in particular where the Supernatural Actor-lookin' dude is just like "are you fucking kidding me?"

Edit:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213852003&postcount=431

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24505 on: August 16, 2016, 06:31:41 PM »
He's right though, if every time someone was dissapointed in NMS a thread was made that'd be the whole board for weeks.
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« Reply #24506 on: August 16, 2016, 06:36:13 PM »
He's right though, if every time someone was dissapointed in NMS a thread was made that'd be the whole board for weeks.

He's just angry because Crowbat basically threw Sean Murray's lies back into his face. :lol "Modbot" never closed any other thread of that Youtube personalities threads, it's only this one they purposely "DON'T TALK TO ME OR MY WIFES SON AGAIN"'d.

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« Reply #24507 on: August 16, 2016, 06:57:56 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213884322&postcount=132

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24508 on: August 16, 2016, 07:10:59 PM »
Not to defend Hello Games but there's a slight air of consumer infantilization in that thread : Anyone applying a bit of skepticism did see through it years ago, regardless of devs going bonkers with the marketing. Would be nice if all games were advertised truthfully at every moment but meanwhile consumers will continue to have to do due diligence.

Sean Murray lied about his game in every other interview or live demo he was part of, not many devs actually do that, AAA or otherwise.

Features being removed or scaled back? Yeah. Devs pretending there wasn't scaling back or things weren't removed, even after release? Doesn't happen. Ubisoft came forward with Rainbow Six Siege not having single player before release, pulling a Sean Murray would mean they pretend there was no expectation of single player and don't respond to questions.

This gen has a lot of bitching, justified and unjustified, sometimes the bitching is about particle effects or smoke, sometimes its about a woman character that has huge tits. No Man's Sky is a clear example of a developer lying about their game.

I was incredibly skeptical of No Man's Sky, and the end product is worse than I thought it would be.

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« Reply #24509 on: August 16, 2016, 07:19:19 PM »
No Man's Sky is the Aliens: Colonial Marines of indie games.
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« Reply #24510 on: August 16, 2016, 07:37:08 PM »
That Sean Murray cat seems like a pathological liar, come on now there doesn't need to be a defense force for everything.

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« Reply #24511 on: August 16, 2016, 07:37:39 PM »
the lesson here is to never trust a man who doesn't wear fucking shoes to an interview.
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« Reply #24512 on: August 16, 2016, 07:57:52 PM »
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The team programmed some of the physics for aesthetic reasons. For instance, Duncan insisted on permitting moons to orbit closer to their planets than Newtonian physics would allow. When he desired the possibility of green skies, the team had to redesign the periodic table to create atmospheric particles that would diffract light at just the right wavelength.

:neogaf I have no knowledge of game development but this sounds like weapons grade bullshit

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« Reply #24513 on: August 16, 2016, 07:58:11 PM »
lol at sonyponies* running damage control itt  :lol

*still a better term than xbots or nintendards tbh
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24514 on: August 16, 2016, 08:13:17 PM »
the lesson here is to never trust a man who doesn't wear fucking shoes to an interview.

You're thinking the Occulus dude. Sean Murray wears shoes... r-right?

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« Reply #24515 on: August 16, 2016, 08:16:49 PM »


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« Reply #24516 on: August 16, 2016, 08:18:03 PM »
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24517 on: August 16, 2016, 08:18:21 PM »
 :doge
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« Reply #24518 on: August 16, 2016, 08:41:39 PM »
WHAT THE FUCK MAN SPOILER THAT SHIT IM NOT TRYING TO SEE ANOTHER MANS FEET

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24519 on: August 16, 2016, 08:42:23 PM »
That's not my fetish.

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24520 on: August 16, 2016, 08:46:13 PM »
That Sean Murray cat seems like a pathological liar, come on now there doesn't need to be a defense force for everything.

Watching that hilarious CrowbCat video and what I really love is the 'Aw Shucks' persona Sean Murray has cultivated, dude is probably cold as steel.

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« Reply #24521 on: August 16, 2016, 08:54:46 PM »
He's got that really annoying smarmy laugh/nod 'oh yeah we've got that' huckster-reassurance thing down pat.

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« Reply #24522 on: August 16, 2016, 09:19:26 PM »
That Sean Murray cat seems like a pathological liar, come on now there doesn't need to be a defense force for everything.

Watching that hilarious CrowbCat video and what I really love is the 'Aw Shucks' persona Sean Murray has cultivated, dude is probably cold as steel.

Yeah, he knows exactly what he's doing.

"Can you grief other players?"

*coy chuckle*

"A little bit"

*coy chuckle*

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24523 on: August 16, 2016, 09:59:36 PM »
I just assume all indie games are trash unless I hear otherwise from a trusted source, like people who don't get a paycheck in the gaming industry.
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« Reply #24524 on: August 16, 2016, 10:07:27 PM »
he is a smarter more in control phil fish

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« Reply #24525 on: August 16, 2016, 10:08:03 PM »
Is it possible for an indy developer to not be a smug hipster?
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« Reply #24526 on: August 16, 2016, 10:57:49 PM »
Is it possible for a craft brewer to not be an smug hipster  :doge

It's possible. There's actually a lot of similarities between the industries with long hours and a glut of newbies who think the game/beer development lifestyle is super coool. I imagine that if you want to maintain a work/family balance and make enough money to live somewhere nice, then you're gonna leave but smug motherfuckers don't have a family to go home to.

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« Reply #24527 on: August 16, 2016, 11:02:50 PM »
No Man's Sky is the Aliens: Colonial Marines of indie games.

Hey now, that's an insult to Aliens: Colonial Marines! At least Aliens: Colonial Marines had a semblance of a game in it. :doge

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24528 on: August 16, 2016, 11:05:01 PM »
Is it possible for a craft brewer to not be an smug hipster  :doge

I got a buddy who runs a bow famous local Cleveland brewery. He's anything but a hipster.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24529 on: August 16, 2016, 11:18:46 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1264047

ITT: A poster gets banned for having a heated meltdown discussion about how some people don't like how the Dead Rising series is going whole hog into comedy.

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24530 on: August 16, 2016, 11:22:16 PM »
No Man's Sky is the Aliens: Colonial Marines of indie games.

Hey now, that's an insult to Aliens: Colonial Marines! At least Aliens: Colonial Marines had a semblance of a game in it. :doge

Just not a good one.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24531 on: August 16, 2016, 11:23:25 PM »
Still it could be argued that even a bad game is better than no game  :ohhh
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24532 on: August 16, 2016, 11:30:40 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1264047

ITT: A poster gets banned for having a heated meltdown discussion about how some people don't like how the Dead Rising series is going whole hog into comedy.

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« Reply #24533 on: August 16, 2016, 11:36:07 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1264344

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4y046e/wheres_the_nms_we_were_sold_on_heres_a_big_list/

Oh my god  :gddr5

Also the inevitable


OK, this is totally off topic, but I'm fluent in spanish (obviously) but for me it works like a switch (same thing with german) If I'm speaking spanish I have to think "Spanish" and then anything in English sounds like gibberish. Conversely if I'm speaking english, spanish sounds like nothing. so when I see this particular clip no matter how many times I try to watch it I can't understand what the guy is saying in spanish so long as the english words are up. It's like physically impossible for me to do. I can either have the subtitles and not pay attention to what he's saying or listen to the spanish and ignore the english. My brain is a mess.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24534 on: August 16, 2016, 11:53:26 PM »
Never watched any of those Hitler meme videos for more than ten seconds. Just can't reconcile the conflict there. However, I can read a German article while listening to English podcasts. Brains are weird.

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« Reply #24535 on: August 16, 2016, 11:57:17 PM »
Are you rich?

Sean Murray is rich now.

I rest my case.

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24536 on: August 17, 2016, 12:00:38 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1264047

ITT: A poster gets banned for having a heated meltdown discussion about how some people don't like how the Dead Rising series is going whole hog into comedy.

/\ another triggered Borian. So much eating today.

Triggered for pointing out a stupid ban (and for the record I'm not the banned)? Lrn2Lingo, oldman.

Are you rich?

Sean Murray is rich now.

I rest my case.

Honestly, it blows my mind how successful the Steam launch has been for them, given the 3-4 days run-up of "nothing there is worth $60." The bad performance was the icing on the "do not pre-order anything ever" shitcake.

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« Reply #24537 on: August 17, 2016, 12:53:55 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213912156&postcount=952

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Really?
I would love to be him doing an interview stating incredible sales numbers and laying out plans for the future of this highly successful franchise.

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Not an uncommon sentiment on GAF, as I read a variation of that quite a few times. "They're rich now and I am filled with euphoria because of it, fuck you."

Honestly, it blows my mind how successful the Steam launch has been for them, given the 3-4 days run-up of "nothing there is worth $60." The bad performance was the icing on the "do not pre-order anything ever" shitcake.

Yes sadly the lesson so far seems to be than generating hype by any means is the winning move.
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« Reply #24538 on: August 17, 2016, 01:05:02 AM »
No man's sky is the ultimate indie game. A game that is in love with its own idea more than it being a game. Sometimes this works out for games that are small in scope like Journey or Flower. But the indie games that are rather successful are the ones that pay homage or are in love with something other than themselves (think about games like Undertale or Stardew valley where they're variations on an existing theme). But the truth of the matter is that while an idea is nice, an idea is not enough to carry an entire game. I'm no fan of Kojima or his style but I do remember something he once said about the next generation of game makers. He had said that he was worried because the first generation of game makers were influenced and inspired by the manga the grew up reading. And how his generation had been influenced and inspired by the movies they saw growing up. And he was worried that the next generation of game makers would grow up playing games and they would be making games based on game mechanics and that wouldn't work. No Man's Sky is exactly that. A good idea for tech to be used in an actual game (doing an Sci-Fi RPG with this as the world gen engine would make sense). But instead we get a game that we're supposed to like because the creator thought it was "artistic". Yeah, nothing more emblematic of the indie game scene than that.

This is garbage. Some of the best games of the past few years have been games that take singular mechanics and turn them into really amazing and refined gameplay experiences. Kojima meanwhile directed a bunch of flashy walking around sad simulators, one walking around sad simulator with open areas and one generic open world game so he's not exactly some expert voice on balancing narrative and actual game play.

Is it possible for an indy developer to not be a smug hipster?

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24539 on: August 17, 2016, 01:18:00 AM »
Not to defend Hello Games but there's a slight air of consumer infantilization in that thread : Anyone applying a bit of skepticism did see through it years ago, regardless of devs going bonkers with the marketing. Would be nice if all games were advertised truthfully at every moment but meanwhile consumers will continue to have to do due diligence.

People that grew up on Molyneux knew, 16 somethings? Dont think so

Seriously from the second they started yapping it sounded like a project that wouldnt deliver half of what it was promising
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