The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.

[Tasty]

Fads have risen and fallen and outsold Mario since the first game came out. Doesn't change the fact that Mario still sells millions of copies after 30 years.

Dude has that Mickey staying power. We'll see where Minecraft is in 10 years.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Big news guys! Wii U is getting a port of a 6 year old game that's on PS3, PS4, Xbox360, Xbox1, PC, iPhone, andriod, linux, web browser, java, fire tv, vita (does that version have boobs in it?) and even windows phone!
Say what you will, but at least it beat out Zune to Minecraft

[Your Stalker]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188277755&postcount=47

lol

[Cerveza mas fina]

Mickey staying power? Mickey has been dead for 2/3 decades

[Tasty]

People thought Mario peaked with SMB3 and 64, and then the New series and Galaxy happened. 94 million copies later...

Anyways, HUELENTIME: http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188279321&postcount=14 

[Steve Contra]

Nintendo fans being rustled over the rise of various super popular/super simple games is always entertaining. The fact that kids are way more into Minecraft than Mario must really hurt their souls.

Are they though? Anecdotal evidence and all that but I still see tons of kids in the game stores I go to picking up Mario and Nintendo titles and amiibos and shit. Not to mention, Nintendo games still have staying power after years. Though yeah I'm one of those people who really likes Mario Maker but am clueless as to the appeal of Minecraft.

This is how you know you're an old, if you don't get Minecraft.  Mario and shit still sells sure, but it has none of the mindshare that Minecraft has

[brob]

Mario indeed has longevity, what we are making fun of is some nintards having a short dick complex about it.

[Tasty]

Nintendo fans being rustled over the rise of various super popular/super simple games is always entertaining. The fact that kids are way more into Minecraft than Mario must really hurt their souls.

Are they though? Anecdotal evidence and all that but I still see tons of kids in the game stores I go to picking up Mario and Nintendo titles and amiibos and shit. Not to mention, Nintendo games still have staying power after years. Though yeah I'm one of those people who really likes Mario Maker but am clueless as to the appeal of Minecraft.

This is how you know you're an old, if you don't get Minecraft.  Mario and shit still sells sure, but it has none of the mindshare that Minecraft has

Tbh I don't see how someone couldn't "get" Minecraft. It's fucking Legos and Legos rule.

[tiesto]

Nintendo fans being rustled over the rise of various super popular/super simple games is always entertaining. The fact that kids are way more into Minecraft than Mario must really hurt their souls.

Are they though? Anecdotal evidence and all that but I still see tons of kids in the game stores I go to picking up Mario and Nintendo titles and amiibos and shit. Not to mention, Nintendo games still have staying power after years. Though yeah I'm one of those people who really likes Mario Maker but am clueless as to the appeal of Minecraft.

This is how you know you're an old, if you don't get Minecraft.  Mario and shit still sells sure, but it has none of the mindshare that Minecraft has

Tbh I don't see how someone couldn't "get" Minecraft. It's fucking Legos and Legos rule.

What I don't get is, why not just play with legos? At least you have the physical, tactile element with them.

[Phoenix Dark]

Nintendo fans being rustled over the rise of various super popular/super simple games is always entertaining. The fact that kids are way more into Minecraft than Mario must really hurt their souls.

Are they though? Anecdotal evidence and all that but I still see tons of kids in the game stores I go to picking up Mario and Nintendo titles and amiibos and shit. Not to mention, Nintendo games still have staying power after years. Though yeah I'm one of those people who really likes Mario Maker but am clueless as to the appeal of Minecraft.

This is how you know you're an old, if you don't get Minecraft.  Mario and shit still sells sure, but it has none of the mindshare that Minecraft has

This is so true. Mario still commands an audience (lots of grown men play games after all ) but Minecraft is on another level. Similarly various mobile games have more clout with kids than Mario these days. Not to mention CoD.

[Tasty]

Nintendo fans being rustled over the rise of various super popular/super simple games is always entertaining. The fact that kids are way more into Minecraft than Mario must really hurt their souls.

Are they though? Anecdotal evidence and all that but I still see tons of kids in the game stores I go to picking up Mario and Nintendo titles and amiibos and shit. Not to mention, Nintendo games still have staying power after years. Though yeah I'm one of those people who really likes Mario Maker but am clueless as to the appeal of Minecraft.

This is how you know you're an old, if you don't get Minecraft.  Mario and shit still sells sure, but it has none of the mindshare that Minecraft has

Tbh I don't see how someone couldn't "get" Minecraft. It's fucking Legos and Legos rule.

What I don't get is, why not just play with legos? At least you have the physical, tactile element with them.

With Legos you're limited to how many Legos you have. And a built Lego structure only lasts as long as it takes you to come up with a better thing to build.

Minecraft has the gameplay loop at its core for getting material and building stuff, plus it's online so you can play with friends. And the stuff you built at least has the appearance of permanence.

I haven't played much Minecraft and I really love Legos, but that's my take.

[Stoney Mason]

Nintendo fans being rustled over the rise of various super popular/super simple games is always entertaining. The fact that kids are way more into Minecraft than Mario must really hurt their souls.

Are they though? Anecdotal evidence and all that but I still see tons of kids in the game stores I go to picking up Mario and Nintendo titles and amiibos and shit. Not to mention, Nintendo games still have staying power after years. Though yeah I'm one of those people who really likes Mario Maker but am clueless as to the appeal of Minecraft.

This is how you know you're an old, if you don't get Minecraft.  Mario and shit still sells sure, but it has none of the mindshare that Minecraft has

Tbh I don't see how someone couldn't "get" Minecraft. It's fucking Legos and Legos rule.

What I don't get is, why not just play with legos? At least you have the physical, tactile element with them.

 

What a bizarre thing to say.

I get that you may not like Minecraft. But let's have a physical limited version of something instead of a virtual version of something that is unlimited, unending, and always can have new content pumped into it basically destroys the concept of nearly all video games.

[Mr Gilhaney]

Nintendo fans being rustled over the rise of various super popular/super simple games is always entertaining. The fact that kids are way more into Minecraft than Mario must really hurt their souls.

Are they though? Anecdotal evidence and all that but I still see tons of kids in the game stores I go to picking up Mario and Nintendo titles and amiibos and shit. Not to mention, Nintendo games still have staying power after years. Though yeah I'm one of those people who really likes Mario Maker but am clueless as to the appeal of Minecraft.

This is how you know you're an old, if you don't get Minecraft.  Mario and shit still sells sure, but it has none of the mindshare that Minecraft has

Tbh I don't see how someone couldn't "get" Minecraft. It's fucking Legos and Legos rule.

What I don't get is, why not just play with legos? At least you have the physical, tactile element with them.

You can get one tiny lego set, for the price of minecraft.

I don't like minecraft, but the appeal is obvious. That day when I won a shitload of lego when I was like 8 years old though. 

[Steve Contra]

You know I don't consider myself a graphics whore but I've never played Minecraft because it looks like fucking trash.

Again, this is how you know you're an old.

[Tasty]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188233436&postcount=29

 

[Stoney Mason]

The minecraft is lego is such a reductive statement also that its completely misleading. Yeah lego is one part of minecraft. There are like a billion others especially when you include the whole modding concept into it.


Minecraft is exploration, Minecraft is art, Minecraft is survival, Minecraft is the Sims, Minecraft is an rpg, Minecraft is a co-op game, etc, etc, etc.

Once again not saying it has to be your cup of tea. Lots of popular things I'm not into. But if you just think Minecraft is a one to one lego thing, you are pretty much not seeing the whole picture.

[Phoenix Dark]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188233436&postcount=29

 

you know he's said that to women before. scust

[Jansen]

you have to be pretty fucking stupid to not understand the appeal of minecraft

[tiesto]

you have to be pretty fucking stupid to not understand the appeal of minecraft

Harsh. But I guess that's to be expected from you.

[Mr. Nobody]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188233436&postcount=29

 

Seriously though, they need to marathon Home Alone 1, 2, and 3 ( ) all Christmas day and not shitty Christmas Story. 


"You'll shoot your eye out!" Should've blown his head off

[Stoney Mason]

you have to be pretty fucking stupid to not understand the appeal of minecraft

Harsh. But I guess that's to be expected from you.

I'm not going to call somebody stupid for not understanding the appeal of something (unless that person is purposely being a jackass). There are absolutely some games that baffle me on the appeal of them until I dabble in them myself. I may not come away loving that thing but I tend to at least get the appeal of it.

I don't like Destiny or Dark Soul's franchise and if I'm in a particular mood I'll probably be a bit snarky about both games but when I hear people talk about what they like in them, I start to get it even if I don't care for either of them and think a lot of the hype surrounding them is overblown.

The only games I would argue that I don't get right now are what I call these breed of games that feel like they were only made for youtubers to play and act like dipshits over.

I would put stuff like surgeon simulator and goat simulator in that category. Although I guess some people just like fucking around in those environments. But deep down I'm deeply cynical about games like that.

[Jansen]

you gather resources and build stuff with them

people like building stuff and you can build some crazy shit in minecraft

it's not difficult to understand

[tiesto]

you gather resources and build stuff with them

people like building stuff and you can build some crazy shit in minecraft

it's not difficult to understand

I think it's less the base appeal of building stuff and more the fact that... out of all the games that allow you to build crazy shit in them (and there's been construction kit type games since the 80's), why is it this particular one that looks worse than some Saturn games that took off like crazy?

[The Legend of Sunblade]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=188289896

Can't even escape this shit in the OPM thread

[Stoney Mason]

you gather resources and build stuff with them

people like building stuff and you can build some crazy shit in minecraft

it's not difficult to understand

I think it's less the base appeal of building stuff (since I'll partake in stuff like RPG Maker) and more the fact that... out of all the games that allow you to build crazy shit in them (and there's been construction kit type games since the 80's), why is it this particular one that looks worse than some Saturn games that took off like crazy?

1.) The graphics being very simple attracted kids instead of the niche nerds some of those other games were targeting.
2.) It hit at the perfect time. Indie games were blowing up. Games on youtube were blowing up. Playing Minecraft on youtube was blowing up.
3.) The game embraced modding in a way that most of these games from bigger companies didn't.
4.) Similar to the perfect timing thing above but it ended up everywhere. PC, Mobile, popular console platforms. It wasn't limited to one particular place or platform.

[The Legend of Sunblade]

The graphics / art style also guaranteed that tons of people with low spec computer could play the game, lowering the barrier to entry. For the longest time you just paid the "low" beta price and that was it.

[Rufus]

What I don't get is, why not just play with legos? At least you have the physical, tactile element with them.

Legos don't have world generation. People underestimate the draw of that.

[Jansen]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=188289896

Can't even escape this shit in the OPM thread

lol that users home page is something else

[Tasty]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=188289896

Can't even escape this shit in the OPM thread

Aren't Asuka and Rei like 14

[Shadow Mod]

I can tell who legitimately is spoiled as fuck and doesn't talk to kids. No offense bros 

To the lego thing: do you even know how expensive that shit is or were you just bought a bunch of that shit regardless? Minecraft is like one low fee, on all kinds of consoles, phones, shitty computers and doesn't need set after set.

To the graphics: this is the one game where I've seen all the kids know it, talk about it and bond about it. Not only this but because of the boxy nature of the game they can make little minecraft inspired dudes at school and make them later in game, or even trade ideas with fellow kids.

It's one of the better games out there since it inspires creativity amongst the kids rather than just walking them through an already established world and narrative.

But of course older fucking gamers gonna get on some elitist highhorse about a game actually catering to kids and accessible to them like video games generally should tbh.

tl;dr minecraft haters

[wsippel]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=188289896

Can't even escape this shit in the OPM thread

Aren't Asuka and Rei like 14

They were 14 in 2000 (when NGE takes place) or 1995 (when it was created), so every doujin drawn within the last decade is therefore obviously OK.

[Van Cruncheon]

What I don't get is, why not just play with legos? At least you have the physical, tactile element with them.

Legos don't have world generation. People underestimate the draw of that.

minecraft is also hella cheaper, and lets you explore and interact with the world -- and that doesn't even touch on the common, collaborative machinima environment it provides.

also, dudebrehs, minecraft and legos are complementary. my daughter also loves legos (especially minecraft lego kits).

itt olds

[tiesto]

I can tell who legitimately is spoiled as fuck and doesn't talk to kids. No offense bros 

To the lego thing: do you even know how expensive that shit is or were you just bought a bunch of that shit regardless? Minecraft is like one low fee, on all kinds of consoles, phones, shitty computers and doesn't need set after set.

To the graphics: this is the one game where I've seen all the kids know it, talk about it and bond about it. Not only this but because of the boxy nature of the game they can make little minecraft inspired dudes at school and make them later in game, or even trade ideas with fellow kids.

It's one of the better games out there since it inspires creativity amongst the kids rather than just walking them through an already established world and narrative.

But of course older fucking gamers gonna get on some elitist highhorse about a game actually catering to kids and accessible to them like video games generally should tbh.

tl;dr minecraft haters

I dunno if this is a singling out of me or whatnot, but there's a big difference between not understanding the appeal (which is what I said, but then again I'm old and generally have niche tastes in the media I consume) and getting on an elitist highhorse about a game that caters to kids. Especially since IMO plenty of the best games ever were made during the time when kids and early teens made up the majority of the videogame market.

[Phoenix Dark]

ITT gamers wondering why people don't do things in real life instead of doing them in a game 

[Van Cruncheon]

would we be having this discussion if minecraft was an original nintendo ip

[Mr. Nobody]

would we be having this discussion if minecraft was an original nintendo ip

 

[Phoenix Dark]

but then the game would indeed be trash after Miyamoto overthought the fun outta it. 

[nudemacusers]

would we be having this discussion if minecraft was an original nintendo ip

Unlikely, it wouldn't have the YouTube boost. Or modding. Or functional multiplayer. Or ________

[Van Cruncheon]

kinda like mario maker, which is joyless nostalgia fetishism for tech sector salarymen

[Shadow Mod]

Last time I checked Mario wasn't really creative and world building from the jump unless you count some neckbearded ass Mario Maker, don't.

Sorry the Wii:U sucks.

 

[Van Cruncheon]

i wonder how many kids give a shit about seeing cloud strife and his convoluted animu adventures rendered with advanced shader pipelines

[Shadow Mod]

"Is that the dude from KH with the Super Saiyan hair?"

[king of the internet]

i wonder how many kids give a shit about seeing cloud strife and his convoluted animu adventures rendered with advanced shader pipelines

Plenty of adult children are psyched about it.

[Van Cruncheon]

Last time I checked Mario wasn't really creative and world building from the jump unless you count some neckbearded ass Mario Maker, don't.

Sorry the Wii:U sucks.

 

it has a very precise demo: anyone who has ever shuddered and whispered "MIYAMOTO-SAMA" while fingering their bellend through their cargo shorts

[Mr. Nobody]

i wonder how many kids give a shit about seeing cloud strife and his convoluted animu adventures rendered with advanced shader pipelines

Mine will 

[tiesto]

kinda like mario maker, which is joyless nostalgia fetishism for tech sector salarymen

[Shadow Mod]

Minecraft on consoles also has split screening and kids can play with their friends.

You know other human beings they socialize with. 

[Van Cruncheon]

The big Nintendo news today is Minecraft

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188254145&postcount=1268

Minecraft is not a game..

Minecraft is boring..

Minecraft is only for kids..


I really tried and all my nephews and nieces know how to play, and I'm really struggling to understand it

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188255717&postcount=1296

now they know how their parents felt every christmas

[curly]

Minecraft blows and in 20 years internet nerds will be complaining about how it turned a generation of children into autists

[Shadow Mod]

That thread:

muh nostalgia boner...this doesn't appeal to it...

[Van Cruncheon]

Nintendo fans being rustled over the rise of various super popular/super simple games is always entertaining. The fact that kids are way more into Minecraft than Mario must really hurt their souls.

Are they though? Anecdotal evidence and all that but I still see tons of kids in the game stores I go to picking up Mario and Nintendo titles and amiibos and shit. Not to mention, Nintendo games still have staying power after years. Though yeah I'm one of those people who really likes Mario Maker but am clueless as to the appeal of Minecraft.

This is how you know you're an old, if you don't get Minecraft.  Mario and shit still sells sure, but it has none of the mindshare that Minecraft has

Tbh I don't see how someone couldn't "get" Minecraft. It's fucking Legos and Legos rule.

What I don't get is, why not just play with legos? At least you have the physical, tactile element with them.

 

What a bizarre thing to say.

I get that you may not like Minecraft. But let's have a physical limited version of something instead of a virtual version of something that is unlimited, unending, and always can have new content pumped into it basically destroys the concept of nearly all video games.

and a vast metafictive universe full of internet content and celebrities. kids know who (fucking) pewdiepie is. miyamoto? that's what dad updates his facebook account about while dribbling pocky crumbs onto his project a-ko t-shirt

[Van Cruncheon]

it would shock every ninthing to know that my parents thought metroid was cryptic and borderline distinguished mentally-challenged

[Shadow Mod]

I got my dad to play Mario Kart with me after begging, whooped my ass, then was like "you want me to keep playing with you?" 

Then later he didn't understand why I played war games.

[Van Cruncheon]

"what the fuck is that shit! how is that so goddamn interesting! go get a boy scout merit badge or shoot a possum or pretend to be john wayne or some shit. i can't even tell whatcher doin' on the ol' picture box. shit, you kids are fucking WEIRD."

DAAAAAD THIS IS SAMUS ARAN! AND SAMUS IS A GIRL FIGHTING THE EVIL MOTHER BRAIN!

"tha fuck. you'll probably wind up gay. yer scoutmaster called and sez y'all are going camping and that you should wear the really small shorts because you'll be sweating a lot."

[mormapope]

Remember, there are Gaffers that try to show unknowing or unwilling friends and family the intro to The Last of Us.

I genuinely think gaming side gets worse and worse with time. You Gaf veterans might say it was always shit or became ultra shit at a certain point, but to me, shit is getting worse.

[Stoney Mason]

Remember, there are Gaffers that try to show unknowing or unwilling friends and family the intro to The Last of Us.

I genuinely think gaming side gets worse and worse with time. You Gaf veterans might say it was always shit or became ultra shit at a certain point, but to me, shit is getting worse.

I don't know that its getting worse but there is an elitism in games that was always there but seems increasingly more prevalent nowadays that is super annoying. It's like nobody plays videogames to actually enjoy them anymore. It's all about dissecting everything like its a fine wine.

The ratio of posts talking about the fun times in a game or experiences in a game versus meta-dissection of the genre is out of whack.

And its not just on forums. It's like the people you meet online are the same way.

[Mr. Gundam]

The only intro I ever wanted to show anyone was Katamari Damacy. Cause that shit was awesomely fucked up to 11, yo.

No art. Just crazy fun.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Remember, there are Gaffers that try to show unknowing or unwilling friends and family the intro to The Last of Us.

I genuinely think gaming side gets worse and worse with time. You Gaf veterans might say it was always shit or became ultra shit at a certain point, but to me, shit is getting worse.

I don't know that its getting worse but there is an elitism in games that was always there but seems increasingly more prevalent nowadays that is super annoying. It's like nobody plays videogames to actually enjoy them anymore. It's all about dissecting everything like its a fine wine.

The ratio of posts talking about the fun times in a game or experiences in a game versus meta-dissection of the genre is out of whack.

And its not just on forums. It's like the people you meet online are the same way.

Hear hear

*goes back to playing battlefront*

[Shadow Mod]

Remember, there are Gaffers that try to show unknowing or unwilling friends and family the intro to The Last of Us.

I genuinely think gaming side gets worse and worse with time. You Gaf veterans might say it was always shit or became ultra shit at a certain point, but to me, shit is getting worse.

I don't know that its getting worse but there is an elitism in games that was always there but seems increasingly more prevalent nowadays that is super annoying. It's like nobody plays videogames to actually enjoy them anymore. It's all about dissecting everything like its a fine wine.

The ratio of posts talking about the fun times in a game or experiences in a game versus meta-dissection of the genre is out of whack.

And its not just on forums. It's like the people you meet online are the same way.

The worst is when you go to a thread for a simple answer to like where something spawns and it just gets buried in some dumbass argument about speccing.

[Stoney Mason]

I was in a party with somebody on xbox and somebody who I wasn't familiar with was in the party. I noticed he was playing Fallout 4. It said he was like level 40 something which means he has put in a good number of hours.  So to be polite I asked, oh you are playing Fallout, what do you think of it.

I mean he could have told me anything. The experiences he had with the game. The things he thought could be better in the gameplay or whatever. Here is this massive rpg that you can have a wide range of opinions on. He says "I thought it would look better". And that's it. I mean that's valid I guess. I just thought it was the least interesting and least informative thing in the world he could have told me. It felt like a neogaf post.