The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.

[Trent Dole]

NMS spoilers : It's mediocre indiefeg hipster doof bullshit.

[VomKriege]

Which I still don't understand.

Like if you have a problem with a post you can send it to a mod, yeah? What's the point of saying help or highlighting words?

Chances are the mod already read the post, including the forty other posts before you  that already quoted it.

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[benjipwns]

The new Mods Help!
 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212091408&postcount=46
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 Which I still don't understand.

 Like if you have a problem with a post you can send it to a mod, yeah? What's the point of saying help or highlighting words?

 Chances are the mod already read the post, including the forty other posts before you  that already quoted it.

Which I still don't understand.

Like if you have a problem with a post you can send it to a mod, yeah? What's the point of saying help or highlighting words?

Chances are the mod already read the post, including the forty other posts before you  that already quoted it.

.

Um, wow, can the mods do something about these posts? I'll keep posting them in any thread these guys post in until you see them. In order to prevent the discussion from getting hijacked.

[Momo]

posted.

[benjipwns]

I was replying to that thread too about how the only reason they were scandals is the Clintons are sloppy at cover ups. Like a dozen people were indicted over Whitewater, there's no way they both survive that if he's not elevated to the Presidency. He was and they still walked the fuck into it because of Bill's stupidity with his dick. The FBI thing was potentially a serious crime.

The cattle futures are just fun to make fun of because of how blatant it was.

There's a tendency in young Hillary supporters to immediately go for the "that's old news, it's all been covered, Republican lies" and lump it in with other stuff like Vince Foster's murder, Benghazi, etc.

But these crimes and corruption happen in every administration and rarely does anyone get convicted. Iran-Contra, everybody got pardoned out of that like Clinton did for Whitewater. The fucking HUD scandals! Savings and Loan crisis! Who's the one guy in the W. Bush admin who went down for something? Scooter Libby, and he went down for not keeping his story straight about gossip.

It's kinda interesting reading the Corbyn/Labour threads because you still have people raging at Blair over Iraq (slightly less so over his Third Way shift to the "right" oddly) and others saying to move on. Hillary's vote, everything the Bush admin did, torture even! Nobody got charged or anything. We aren't going back to that stuff either. It should still be fucking valid to bring up if John Yoo or somebody runs for President no? It seems like it'll just be, you're fighting old battles again! Everybody covered that and there was nothing! Especially because of how the media was implicated.

Even Trump seems to be avoiding everything. Even if (or probably because?) a lot of it is just par for the course (ha! a pun!) real estate corruption.

[Momo]

Wednesday is my local elections and we have party leaders raising people wetting the bed as talking points

http://ewn.co.za/2016/07/31/Malema-threatens-to-expose-ANC-minister-who-pees-himself-when-drunk

 

[toku]

[Cerveza mas fina]

I still want to play it one day for a tenner or so.

Until Dawn is also on this list.

[Momo]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1255896

my gf does acid, help

gaf:

Acid is less harmful to you than alcohol if you look at it from a physiological standpoint (and it has never killed anyone).

If she isn't talking to aliens through her aluminum foil hat, I'd say drop some with her and have a good time.

[Momo]

Since when do moderators act in accordance to the TOS?

Hilariously, I used to be part of an anime forum where the admin would go apeshit on mods that would ban people for non TOS violations, people used to stretch that shit to the max, it was hilarious. Even when you got banned you could 'appeal' and if a mod cant point to the TOS violation they would have to unban you. I miss the stupidity, the meta of that forum became 'let's see what we can get away with without getting banned' 

[Take My Breh Away]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212103315&postcount=692

Getting triggered because of a console size comparison

This is the quality posting you can expect on neogaf in 2016

[Let's Cyber]

My ban came from saying GAF was a hivemind. And anytime anyone does, the rest of the thread gangs up on them to get them banned for saying it is a hivemind, all while being oblivious to their behavior. And you'll note that there is nothing in the TOS about calling GAF a hivemind or anything similar, but they'll perm you for that shit in an instant, which does nothing but reinforce why you called it one in the first place.

You were perma'd?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212103315&postcount=692

Getting triggered because of a console size comparison

This is the quality posting you can expect on neogaf in 2016

 

[Rufus]

Not to be a party pooper, but do you guys not know what social sanctions are?

The "other side" complains about not being able to say or like certain things publically, which is exactly what the "pink hairs" aim to do. Raise awareness, name and shame, etc. You already know how that works, the list of things is just expanding (with the usual growing pains). Yes, only some of them do more than moan on social media, but by doing so even they help, if indirectly.

[Phoenix Dark]

I was reading this thing today and apparently in Central America they used to do human sacrifices. Maybe Trump is right about building that wall.

Did you know that in South America the Mayans played basketball using human heads as the ball!? Liberals complain about cultural appropriation unless minorities steal something from great Americans like Albert Spalding.

[Cerveza mas fina]

What if the wall is being built to keep Mexico safe?

[zomgee]

I always am a bit  at this type of reactions. Truth is, even if Trump would get a massive spanking in the election (which is wishful thinking as far as I can tell), he would probably get 30-40% of the popular vote. Of course you're bound to know some people that gonna vote for him.

Some of these people aren't even on Twitter... HOW DO WE SHAME THEM?

[zomgee]

Not to be a party pooper, but do you guys not know what social sanctions are?

The "other side" complains about not being able to say or like certain things publically, which is exactly what the "pink hairs" aim to do. Raise awareness, name and shame, etc. You already know how that works, the list of things is just expanding (with the usual growing pains). Yes, only some of them do more than moan on social media, but by doing so even they help, if indirectly.

John Stuart Mill, the first SJW.

"Whoever fails in the consideration generally due to the interests and feelings of others, not being compelled by some more imperative duty, or justified by allowable self-preference, is a subject of moral disapprobation for that failure, but not for the cause of it, nor for the errors, merely personal to himself, which may have remotely led to it. In like manner, when a person disables himself, by conduct purely self-regarding, from the performance of some definite duty incumbent on him to the public, he is guilty of a social offence."

Translation: Check your privilege shitlord.

[helios]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212096988&postcount=1107

Anyway point is [Ghostbusters 2016] has actually vastly improved costume options for women

The war is over. It was a splendid victory.

[thisismyusername]

Not to be a party pooper, but do you guys not know what social sanctions are?

The "other side" complains about not being able to say or like certain things publically, which is exactly what the "pink hairs" aim to do. Raise awareness, name and shame, etc. You already know how that works, the list of things is just expanding (with the usual growing pains). Yes, only some of them do more than moan on social media, but by doing so even they help, if indirectly.

John Stuart Mill, the first SJW.

"Whoever fails in the consideration generally due to the interests and feelings of others, not being compelled by some more imperative duty, or justified by allowable self-preference, is a subject of moral disapprobation for that failure, but not for the cause of it, nor for the errors, merely personal to himself, which may have remotely led to it. In like manner, when a person disables himself, by conduct purely self-regarding, from the performance of some definite duty incumbent on him to the public, he is guilty of a social offence."

Translation: Check your privilege shitlord.

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212121282&postcount=81

[mormapope]

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212121282&postcount=81

Look how the weapon looks from many directions as you basically move your character's hand:

This is probably the least important thing in any FPS.

Also, Red Orchestra has that style of aiming but its implemented correctly/a mouse and keyboard isn't a N64 controller.

[stufte]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212096988&postcount=1107

Anyway point is [Ghostbusters 2016] has actually vastly improved costume options for women

The war is over. It was a splendid victory.

LOL. OG ghostbusters uniform is unisex, but because they make tarted up versions for college girls (like most every other costume in existence), OG ghostbusters is bad, new ghostbusters good.

So many sex negative people on GAF afraid of the idea that some people like to feel sexy towards the opposite gender.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

That's because gaffers think so little of themselves that they can't imagine anyone being attracted to them.  They have no concept of the idea.  That's why so many of them think talking to a girl is assault, because they know how off putting they are to others.  Kind of sad but these people squee over PS4 exclusives so it's just Darwinism in action.

[zomgee]

I'm still awaiting for the grand "If you're not attracted to and willing to have a relationship with transsexuals/post transition people then you are a bigoted transphobe and deserve to be shamed" thread to actually stick. It's been tried a few times and shot down, once by Lore himself. Which was, you know, problematic.

In any case there is great room for conversation on the topic but since there is no gray area on the site, no real conversation can be had.

"well..."

"FUCK YOU"

In fact I think I caught a shitposting ban on one of the previous threads on that topic.

[SmokyDave]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212096988&postcount=1107

Anyway point is [Ghostbusters 2016] has actually vastly improved costume options for women

The war is over. It was a splendid victory.

That dopey cunt putting a 'Stripper Heel Trigger Warning' made me check out the video. Heels that chunky ain't stripper heels, for fucks sake.

Anyway, I'm glad to see that dumpy chicks can now dress up as ghostbusters too.

[stufte]

I'm still awaiting for the grand "If you're not attracted to and willing to have a relationship with transsexuals/post transition people then you are a bigoted transphobe and deserve to be shamed" thread to actually stick. It's been tried a few times and shot down, once by Lore himself. Which was, you know, problematic.

In any case there is great room for conversation on the topic but since there is no gray area on the site, no real conversation can be had.

"well..."

"FUCK YOU"

In fact I think I caught a shitposting ban on one of the previous threads on that topic.

I honestly love those threads.

 At what point did being progressive go from "people should be able to be with/sleep with whomever they want" to "if you don't sleep with a trans woman because she's trans then you are a horrible person"? I mean, be what you want, it's your life and no one should tell you what to be... but maybe don't expect anyone else to just be cool with it especially if you try to deceive them into sleeping with you.

Every one of the previous threads turned into an amazing shitshow full of suicide stats and advocating rape by deception.

[helios]

I'm still awaiting for the grand "If you're not attracted to and willing to have a relationship with transsexuals/post transition people then you are a bigoted transphobe and deserve to be shamed" thread to actually stick. It's been tried a few times and shot down, once by Lore himself. Which was, you know, problematic.

In any case there is great room for conversation on the topic but since there is no gray area on the site, no real conversation can be had.

"well..."

"FUCK YOU"

In fact I think I caught a shitposting ban on one of the previous threads on that topic.

My opinion now is the same as it was then: If you find someone attractive thinking they are a cisgender woman, and are grossed out by them when thinking they are a transgender woman, that is bigotry. If your response to the same physical body changes because on what you believe about their status trans / cis, then your issue is entirely in your head and less about their physical body.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212096988&postcount=1107

Anyway point is [Ghostbusters 2016] has actually vastly improved costume options for women

The war is over. It was a splendid victory.

LOL. OG ghostbusters uniform is unisex, but because they make tarted up versions for college girls (like most every other costume in existence), OG ghostbusters is bad, new ghostbusters good.

So many sex negative people on GAF afraid of the idea that some people like to feel sexy towards the opposite gender.

I'm glad that women can now wear the same clothes as men without feeling sexy.

[agrajag]

I'm still awaiting for the grand "If you're not attracted to and willing to have a relationship with transsexuals/post transition people then you are a bigoted transphobe and deserve to be shamed" thread to actually stick. It's been tried a few times and shot down, once by Lore himself. Which was, you know, problematic.

In any case there is great room for conversation on the topic but since there is no gray area on the site, no real conversation can be had.

"well..."

"FUCK YOU"

In fact I think I caught a shitposting ban on one of the previous threads on that topic.

I caught a ban arguing with Gaborn (RIP) about this very thing.

[Take My Breh Away]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212096988&postcount=1107

Anyway point is [Ghostbusters 2016] has actually vastly improved costume options for women

The war is over. It was a splendid victory.

LOL. OG ghostbusters uniform is unisex, but because they make tarted up versions for college girls (like most every other costume in existence), OG ghostbusters is bad, new ghostbusters good.

So many sex negative people on GAF afraid of the idea that some people like to feel sexy towards the opposite gender.

[Mr. Nobody]

smithers has a good excuse for that gif tho cuz he's gay

what excuse does GAF have

 

[zomgee]

I'm still awaiting for the grand "If you're not attracted to and willing to have a relationship with transsexuals/post transition people then you are a bigoted transphobe and deserve to be shamed" thread to actually stick. It's been tried a few times and shot down, once by Lore himself. Which was, you know, problematic.

In any case there is great room for conversation on the topic but since there is no gray area on the site, no real conversation can be had.

"well..."

"FUCK YOU"

In fact I think I caught a shitposting ban on one of the previous threads on that topic.

My opinion now is the same as it was then: If you find someone attractive thinking they are a cisgender woman, and are grossed out by them when thinking they are a transgender woman, that is bigotry. If your response to the same physical body changes because on what you believe about their status trans / cis, then your issue is entirely in your head and less about their physical body.

Well look at that here's a potential for conversation instead of calling me a privileged asshole who lacks the very minimum compassion for anyone who isn't me. And I might not get banned, at that. And if you*do* call me a privileged asshole, well then, ok, that's who I am to you. Who am I going to cry to?

I've been married so long I literally have no idea how I'd truly react or think about it. But I know that I'd feel bad for the guy entering a relationship and suddenly finding out they had no safe chance at children between them, especially because she never mentioned that she physically transitioned. And if by a certain amount of time the transexual person who has no interest in transitioning physically, doesn't mention 'hey I have a dong and I'm keeping it,' I can't fault the guy for saying, well... thanks but no thanks. *I* don't feel that's bigoted.

But here's the thing: Maybe my opinion is probably old fashioned or at least dying out, I have no idea. But eventually a site like Neogaf will look upon that opinion as bannable.

[tiesto]

99.99999% of Neogaf are idiots regardless of their vote for Hilary or Trump. This forum has become more of a campus safe space with ads that line Evilores eurowhore adventures than an open place of discussion, aka a forum.

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212090577&postcount=267

[zomgee]

brave

[agrajag]

No, not wanting to have sex with someone with a dick does not make you bigoted.

[helios]

I'm still awaiting for the grand "If you're not attracted to and willing to have a relationship with transsexuals/post transition people then you are a bigoted transphobe and deserve to be shamed" thread to actually stick. It's been tried a few times and shot down, once by Lore himself. Which was, you know, problematic.

In any case there is great room for conversation on the topic but since there is no gray area on the site, no real conversation can be had.

"well..."

"FUCK YOU"

In fact I think I caught a shitposting ban on one of the previous threads on that topic.

My opinion now is the same as it was then: If you find someone attractive thinking they are a cisgender woman, and are grossed out by them when thinking they are a transgender woman, that is bigotry. If your response to the same physical body changes because on what you believe about their status trans / cis, then your issue is entirely in your head and less about their physical body.

Well look at that here's a potential for conversation instead of calling me a privileged asshole who lacks the very minimum compassion for anyone who isn't me. And I might not get banned, at that. And if you*d8* call me a privileged asshole, well then, ok, that's who I am to you. Who am I going to cry to?

I've been married so long I literally have no idea how I'd truly react or think about it. But I know that I'd feel bad for the guy entering a relationship and suddenly finding out they had no safe chance at children between them. And if by a certain amount of time the transexual person who has no interest in transitioning physically, doesn't mention 'hey I have a dong and I'm keeping it,' I can't fault the guy for saying, well... thanks but no thanks. *I* don't feel that's bigoted.

But here's the thing: Maybe my opinion is probably old fashioned or at least dying out, I have no idea. But eventually a site like Neogaf will look upon that opinion as bannable.

I mean, I think that being prejudiced against / cissexist towards / bigoted against - and I use these interchangeably - transgender people is the norm in modern American society. To me, saying "almost all cisgender people have cissexist attitudes towards transgender people in 2015 in America" is like saying, "almost every white person had racist attitudes against black people in the U.S. in 1960, and a large plurality (or majority if you go by some surveys) still do." If someone is racist, it doesn't mean that they are A Super Bad Person Now And Forever With No Redeeming Values, after all. They probably have lots of redeeming values, and pet dogs and save stray cats and let their neighbors borrow butter and whatever else you might use to define someone having basic decency. But they're still racist, and (at least my by lights), I think someone who is cissexist is still so.

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=151922516&postcount=1626

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=151951280&postcount=1753

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I don't believe any of this

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[zomgee]

Oh I wish *I* had a big wall of stuff I could copy paste from sites that you like more. 

I guess my point is... I forget.

[octopushover]

if you judge a profession or character by the halloween costume version of their outfit, you're gonna have an erection every time

[helios]

Oh I wish *I* had a big wall of stuff I could copy paste from sites that you like more. 

I wish I copy-pasted stuff from a site I liked, too.

[tiesto]

if you judge a profession or character by the halloween costume version of their outfit, you're gonna have an erection every time

Even computer programmer?

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especially computer programmer

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[Let's Cyber]

And here. We. Go...no review copies of No Man's Sky will be sent out prior to launch

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1256418

Let the fuckery commence

[mormapope]

There will be review copies, but they won't be sent out in advance. Meaning that there won't be day 1 reviews and critics will be playing it the same time as consumers.

For some reason, there's a defense force for there not being day 1 reviews.

EDIT: saw you posted prior to launch in your post, thought you meant in general

[VomKriege]

If the leaks are to be believed, a big day one patch is needed. Maybe that's that. No early reviews is not proof it's bad, but it's not exactly filling with confidence.

Maybe I'm off base, but between the delay, leaks and now this... Wonder if there was some panic in the last stretch and they tried to "salvage" it.

[Let's Cyber]

EDIT: saw you posted prior to launch in your post, thought you meant in general

you have it correct.  This just means we won't get reviews on the day of launch.

If the leaks are to be believed, a big day one patch is needed. Maybe that's that. No early reviews is not proof it's bad, but it's not exactly filling with confidence.

Maybe I'm off base, but between the delay, leaks and now this... Wonder if there was some panic in the last stretch and they tried to "salvage" it.

Here is the thing.  I feel like they could have pushed it to Holiday if it was really that broken and needed to be "salvaged".  They only delayed it 7 weeks and it went gold only 3 weeks after the original release date.  They will have had a month to work on the first update by the time August 9th rolls around.  I'm in wait-and-see mode 

[VomKriege]

I feel like they could have pushed it to Holiday if it was really that broken and needed to be "salvaged".

That may be, though it would maybe have a harder time in the crowded holiday schedule. As of now, I'm just speculating, the game isn't totally broken or anything either, AFAWK.

It's just something I was thinking yesterday while reading the back and forth, and notably about the leaker saying he encountered some life on all worlds he had seen so far. Some felt it wasn't right, as the dev has mentioned "barren worlds". If "barren" means ressource poor (guessing on my part, but that's a reasonable possibility) and the game really has millions upon millions of planets, you may encounter the problem of having a string of them in succession, with the risk of certain players bouncing back (We know most people are front loading their experience with any title). I wondered if the dev didn't try to cover for this by making life forms and such more likely to be generated.

TLDR : Speculations.

[kick51]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212166165&postcount=3

support kickstarter, claim ownership 

[FStop7]

And here. We. Go...no review copies of No Man's Sky will be sent out prior to launch

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1256418

Let the fuckery commence

I just realized that I can't be assed to care about NMS beyond wanting to know what the game actually consists of.

[Stoney Mason]

You won't be able to get an honest take on No man's sky for awhile. Too many people invested in that game to give honest opinions.

[Atramental]

My heart goes out to the mainstream reviewers that end up giving NMS a 6 or 7.

The game probably deserves a 5 but you're just asking to get crucified with a score that low.

 

[Take My Breh Away]

If the leaks are to be believed, a big day one patch is needed. Maybe that's that. No early reviews is not proof it's bad, but it's not exactly filling with confidence.

Maybe I'm off base, but between the delay, leaks and now this... Wonder if there was some panic in the last stretch and they tried to "salvage" it.

No review copies went out for Doom and people thought it was because the multiplayer Beta went down like a lead balloon. Worked out for them since the Single player was surprisingly good. NMS, I have no idea. Street Fighter V had the cat out of the bag two weeks before it came out due to people in the middle east getting copies, streaming it and found out it was barebones. Capcom still sent code out about a week before launch.

The NMS review thread is going to be a fucking dumpster fire.   

[mormapope]

Based on gameplay footage, No Man's sky is a exploration game with Destiny's menus and resource management, combined with very light mining and crafting. The menus look almost 1:1 with Destiny, how you navigate the menus, how much resources you have and what you need, the trackers and notifications.

You do a lot more menu shit than I expected for a game like this. Its more like Destiny than it is Minecraft.

[Dennis]

I made Shenmue 3.

[archie4208]

I've made hundreds of forum posts about Dota 2.  I'm basically BFF with Icefrog.

[FStop7]

cargo shorts threads

that's my pleasure

[SmokyDave]

I'd like to claim Auto Modellista since I'm the only person on earth that cares deeply about the game. It's my game now.

[nudemacusers]

I hope none of you wear cargo shorts. I expect better of you

[thisismyusername]

I made Shenmue 3.

In your toilet? That's nice, dear. Now go flush Shenmue 3 down.

[Dennis]

I made Shenmue 3.

In your toilet? That's nice, dear. Now go flush Shenmue 3 down.

I am not going to lie, this triggered me.

 

[stufte]

I'm downloading the New Retro Arcade now. It better be good or I'm complaining to the poster that owns it.

[stufte]

Also, I'm going to enjoy NMS no matter what you turds say about it.

[Nola]

My ban came from saying GAF was a hivemind. And anytime anyone does, the rest of the thread gangs up on them to get them banned for saying it is a hivemind, all while being oblivious to their behavior. And you'll note that there is nothing in the TOS about calling GAF a hivemind or anything similar, but they'll perm you for that shit in an instant, which does nothing but reinforce why you called it one in the first place.

There definitely is a steadily growing hypocrisy with policing on the board(has been slowly getting worse for years TBH). With modding behavior that has resulted in creating a heavily insulated community. It has really ruined the quality of discussion that can be had IMO. The piling on is really a symptom of that IMO. Instead of arguing a point it just becomes a race to the bottom to illicit that minor reaction from the designated "out" poster that will give just enough cover for one of the over-reaching mods to ban that person for one slip up. Ignoring all the shit the mob was often doing to goat that reaction.

I get and respect the argument of protecting minority voices and opinions but you still have to apply oversight equitably.

If you are shit posting, generalizing, borderline personal attacking, but are at least doing it arguing in favor of liberal sentiments(I'm liberal FYI) your leash is long and only lightly tugged. If ever. Do the same against protected viewpoints or posters and you will get the hammer fast(Like I just got).

[D3RANG3D]

Sounds like twitter.