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benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8040 on: January 11, 2017, 06:16:50 PM »
Just so I'm clear.

There was a document floating around for months, multiple news outlets had it, it's full of unconfirmed facts and nameless sources, it was leaked by Buzzfeed (24 Examples Of Corinne Being The Greatest "Bachelor" Villain Yet A short story in 24 GIFs), and GAF is creaming themselves over this?

Is that the gist or am I missing something?
Johm McCain forwarded it to the FBI.

Also, it apparently originated in OPPO research by the Jeb! camp.

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Himu

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8041 on: January 11, 2017, 06:17:21 PM »
Didn't Trump already fire back at the media like the day he was elected in a meeting with the press? Isn't there already a "precedent"? Or have they forgotten this? :what
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8042 on: January 11, 2017, 06:20:15 PM »
Just so I'm clear.

There was a document floating around for months, multiple news outlets had it, it's full of unconfirmed facts and nameless sources, it was leaked by Buzzfeed (24 Examples Of Corinne Being The Greatest "Bachelor" Villain Yet A short story in 24 GIFs), and GAF is creaming themselves over this?

Is that the gist or am I missing something?
Johm McCain forwarded it to the FBI.

Also, it apparently originated in OPPO research by the Jeb! camp.

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benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8043 on: January 11, 2017, 06:20:33 PM »
Didn't Trump already fire back at the media like the day he was elected in a meeting with the press? Isn't there already a "precedent"? Or have they forgotten this? :what
That was the other dangerous precedent he violated, back when he was dangerously violating precedent by suggesting the election my be rigged, which was treasonous and set a dangerous precedent for allowing sedition.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8044 on: January 11, 2017, 06:20:38 PM »
Just so I'm clear.

There was a document floating around for months, multiple news outlets had it, it's full of unconfirmed facts and nameless sources, it was leaked by Buzzfeed (24 Examples Of Corinne Being The Greatest "Bachelor" Villain Yet A short story in 24 GIFs), and GAF is creaming themselves over this?

Is that the gist or am I missing something?


They were also creaming themselves over another unverified story about Trump's lawyer being a Putin shill which was proven false. They immediately forgot about it.

studyguy

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8045 on: January 11, 2017, 06:27:12 PM »
Also isn't the Nintendo Switch presentation tomorrow?
:donot

What's wrong Benji, we're taking the next step in human evolution tomorrow.
 :neogaf
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Optimus

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8046 on: January 11, 2017, 06:33:49 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228110931&postcount=7941

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But then, we do have a President Peelect Donald Trump so maybe amaze is the wrong word. Scares me. That's it.

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President Peelect


Get it? President Peelect. Because of the pee.
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Nola

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8047 on: January 11, 2017, 06:37:26 PM »
Just so I'm clear.

There was a document floating around for months, multiple news outlets had it, it's full of unconfirmed facts and nameless sources, it was leaked by Buzzfeed (24 Examples Of Corinne Being The Greatest "Bachelor" Villain Yet A short story in 24 GIFs), and GAF is creaming themselves over this?

Is that the gist or am I missing something?


They were also creaming themselves over another unverified story about Trump's lawyer being a Putin shill which was proven false. They immediately forgot about it.

Thats where the Democrats will screw up, dropping these stories when its beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are untrue. Didn't Democrats learn anything from Trump??? Lack of proof only means the real truth hasn't been exposed yet.

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Nola

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8048 on: January 11, 2017, 06:44:07 PM »
Just so I'm clear.

There was a document floating around for months, multiple news outlets had it, it's full of unconfirmed facts and nameless sources, it was leaked by Buzzfeed (24 Examples Of Corinne Being The Greatest "Bachelor" Villain Yet A short story in 24 GIFs), and GAF is creaming themselves over this?

Is that the gist or am I missing something?
Johm McCain forwarded it to the FBI.

Also, it apparently originated in OPPO research by the Jeb! camp.

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The sticking point in all this is why it was included in the intelligence briefings to the president, the gang of 8, and I guess now the entire House?

At this point it is speculation. But now that the snake is out of the bag and the memes are flowing, this one probably has staying power.

studyguy

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8049 on: January 11, 2017, 06:58:17 PM »
I don't really get the appeal of speedruns, but the autism on display is always on another level.
https://twitter.com/hatstwit/status/819029091173142529

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8050 on: January 11, 2017, 07:08:37 PM »
I love watching speedrunning, but yah the social distinguished mentally-challenged of some of the attendees is off the charts. There are lots of great cringe clips on youtube from past AGDQs.

:drudge *edit* FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS *edit*  :drudge

https://streamable.com/c94ol?t=7.720243
« Last Edit: January 11, 2017, 07:12:48 PM by stufte »

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8051 on: January 11, 2017, 07:19:10 PM »
I love watching speedrunning, but yah the social distinguished mentally-challenged of some of the attendees is off the charts. There are lots of great cringe clips on youtube from past AGDQs.

:drudge *edit* FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS *edit*  :drudge

https://streamable.com/c94ol?t=7.720243

The dude dabbing for the camera a second later makes up for it.

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8052 on: January 11, 2017, 07:22:05 PM »
The sticking point in all this is why it was included in the intelligence briefings to the president, the gang of 8, and I guess now the entire House?
NBC says neither Trump nor Obama were briefed on it*. A summary was included as part of an example of disinformation campaigns included on the "briefing" meeting they had last week. (Which was really a "here's how the process works, here's Dave he'll be the guy you yell at for bad news, here's Steve he's in Bruce Springstein's band he'll be sending you pictures of balls as satellite photos, etc." meeting from what I can tell.)

The "gang of eight" can technically release anything but I thought it had to be joint agreement. That's how the House is getting now apparently because....

Johm McCain got it from the same former MI6 guy the Wall Street Journal DOXXED by sharing his publicly known name publicly and sent it to the FBI (who already had it three months before) because he's an abject moron apparently yet people still refuse to realize he's never been "one of the good ones" or "different" from Trump let alone competent as if his freak out before the debates in 2008 never happened.

Quote from: original CNN story
The two-page summary was written without the detailed specifics and information about sources and methods included in the memos by the former British intelligence official. That said, the synopsis was considered so sensitive it was not included in the classified report about Russian hacking that was more widely distributed, but rather in an annex only shared at the most senior levels of the government: President Obama, the President-elect, and the eight Congressional leaders.

CNN has also learned that on December 9, Senator John McCain gave a full copy of the memos -- dated from June through December, 2016 -- to FBI Director James Comey. McCain became aware of the memos from a former British diplomat who had been posted in Moscow. But the FBI had already been given a set of the memos compiled up to August 2016, when the former MI6 agent presented them to an FBI official in Rome, according to national security officials.
I think people don't realize the "synopsis was considered so sensitive" here doesn't mean the information was damaging to some broader notion of the country or Trump or whatever but that it was so flimsy that it was damaging to intelligence officials for them to include it in the already vague and poorly sourced report since they knew everyone would latch onto it as we see now.

*Chuck Todd confronted the Buzzfeed guy over this on his show and asked him "what's the difference between what you're doing and so-called fake news?" and the Buzzfeed dude got mad. edit: posted video in politik thread

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8053 on: January 11, 2017, 07:24:20 PM »
So, Comey is a true American hero again or something now? I lost track.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8054 on: January 11, 2017, 07:28:07 PM »
When David Corn wouldn't touch the story, thats a sign.

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8055 on: January 11, 2017, 07:30:19 PM »
I love watching speedrunning, but yah the social distinguished mentally-challenged of some of the attendees is off the charts. There are lots of great cringe clips on youtube from past AGDQs.

:drudge *edit* FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS *edit*  :drudge

https://streamable.com/c94ol?t=7.720243
he left a bottle under his chair the fucker :crazy

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8056 on: January 11, 2017, 08:19:57 PM »
I don't really get the appeal of speedruns, but the autism on display is always on another level.
https://twitter.com/hatstwit/status/819029091173142529

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uh... that guy's newest post is something... never knew speedrunning had groupies

Propagandhim

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8057 on: January 11, 2017, 08:26:12 PM »
I know if I wanted to get in on some buttsmells, a decoy under-the-chair bottle would be the perfect ruse.

Propagandhim

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8058 on: January 11, 2017, 08:33:57 PM »
I don't normally support the death penalty, but I'm going to make a convenient moral exception for Dylan Roof Dabber over there at the end of that video.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8059 on: January 11, 2017, 08:41:29 PM »
The sticking point in all this is why it was included in the intelligence briefings to the president, the gang of 8, and I guess now the entire House?
NBC says neither Trump nor Obama were briefed on it*. A summary was included as part of an example of disinformation campaigns included on the "briefing" meeting they had last week. (Which was really a "here's how the process works, here's Dave he'll be the guy you yell at for bad news, here's Steve he's in Bruce Springstein's band he'll be sending you pictures of balls as satellite photos, etc." meeting from what I can tell.)

The "gang of eight" can technically release anything but I thought it had to be joint agreement. That's how the House is getting now apparently because....

Johm McCain got it from the same former MI6 guy the Wall Street Journal DOXXED by sharing his publicly known name publicly and sent it to the FBI (who already had it three months before) because he's an abject moron apparently yet people still refuse to realize he's never been "one of the good ones" or "different" from Trump let alone competent as if his freak out before the debates in 2008 never happened.

Quote from: original CNN story
The two-page summary was written without the detailed specifics and information about sources and methods included in the memos by the former British intelligence official. That said, the synopsis was considered so sensitive it was not included in the classified report about Russian hacking that was more widely distributed, but rather in an annex only shared at the most senior levels of the government: President Obama, the President-elect, and the eight Congressional leaders.

CNN has also learned that on December 9, Senator John McCain gave a full copy of the memos -- dated from June through December, 2016 -- to FBI Director James Comey. McCain became aware of the memos from a former British diplomat who had been posted in Moscow. But the FBI had already been given a set of the memos compiled up to August 2016, when the former MI6 agent presented them to an FBI official in Rome, according to national security officials.
I think people don't realize the "synopsis was considered so sensitive" here doesn't mean the information was damaging to some broader notion of the country or Trump or whatever but that it was so flimsy that it was damaging to intelligence officials for them to include it in the already vague and poorly sourced report since they knew everyone would latch onto it as we see now.

*Chuck Todd confronted the Buzzfeed guy over this on his show and asked him "what's the difference between what you're doing and so-called fake news?" and the Buzzfeed dude got mad. edit: posted video in politik thread

Fake news tends to be fake and, well, deliberate. Knowingly so. This is unsubstantiated news. At this point recklessly released. Even if it was prefaced as such by Buzzfeed. I think that is a distinction that should be accounted for and that Chuck Todd blurb kinda sums up why I don't really ever turn on cable news. Just explain to the audience the proper context, they are supposed to be journalists for fuck sakes lol, this is kinda where those journalism degrees should come in handy.

As I have been working much of the day until a couple hours ago, this has been my foundation so far.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/trump-intelligence-report-explainer.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

My point with the motivation of the intelligence community was not to infer any default in the absence of evidence, but to point out that the answer to that question will likely be rather consequential in elevating or cutting the head off this story. Right now it seems to have a partisan break.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8060 on: January 11, 2017, 08:45:01 PM »
uh... that guy's newest post is something... never knew speedrunning had groupies
lol that pic is from like 5/6 years ago and isn't even speedrunning related.

it's fighting game player related :doge

agrajag

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8061 on: January 11, 2017, 08:45:05 PM »
Chuck Todd looks way more mad and gotten to than the Buzzfeed guy. :trumps

Nola

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8062 on: January 11, 2017, 08:56:23 PM »
I honestly didn't have the energy to track down the link to watch it. Just took Benji's word for it. I know he's good for it.  :respect

agrajag

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8063 on: January 11, 2017, 09:03:15 PM »
Chuck Todd was definitely the bothered one, as an avatar of the old guard media clutching to keep its status quo.  :doge

etiolate

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8064 on: January 11, 2017, 09:15:49 PM »
Ben posted it to get more clicks. Todd was looking for a journalistic angle, but there was none. Ben just wanted to cash in on the info.

Buzzfeed knows what it's doing and knows it will go viral. They are just being dishonest about it. You can't take the stance that you're getting with the nature of our times by posting unverified things just so the public can see it and then try to act like saying it's unverified excuses you when the viral "nature of the times" of the thing will remove all that conditional pretense.

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8065 on: January 11, 2017, 09:19:19 PM »
Yeah, Todd is lecturing, that's what he always does as a pillar of the mainstream CORPORATE media. Smith is trying to disassemble and justify it as some kind of high minded cornerstone of democracy argument from the word go rather just than saying "we wanted to publish it before anyone else did! We're fucking Buzzfeed!"

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8066 on: January 11, 2017, 09:20:49 PM »
drop the oppo receipts testoftide: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228119896&postcount=8451

Quote from: TestOfTide
Quote from: Chumley
Why do pieces of shit like this even come here.

I don't get it.
Oh usually what happens (such was the case with that dude) is they are on GAF for the gaming stuff, then peak over to the off-topic section and decide to spew their uninformed opinions in the off-topic section because gaming side tends to deal mostly with subjective things like taste rather than objective things like political facts (that isn't to say the gaming side is wrong).

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8067 on: January 11, 2017, 09:22:43 PM »
The sticking point in all this is why it was included in the intelligence briefings to the president, the gang of 8, and I guess now the entire House?
NBC says neither Trump nor Obama were briefed on it*. A summary was included as part of an example of disinformation campaigns included on the "briefing" meeting they had last week. (Which was really a "here's how the process works, here's Dave he'll be the guy you yell at for bad news, here's Steve he's in Bruce Springstein's band he'll be sending you pictures of balls as satellite photos, etc." meeting from what I can tell.)

The "gang of eight" can technically release anything but I thought it had to be joint agreement. That's how the House is getting now apparently because....

Johm McCain got it from the same former MI6 guy the Wall Street Journal DOXXED by sharing his publicly known name publicly and sent it to the FBI (who already had it three months before) because he's an abject moron apparently yet people still refuse to realize he's never been "one of the good ones" or "different" from Trump let alone competent as if his freak out before the debates in 2008 never happened.

Quote from: original CNN story
The two-page summary was written without the detailed specifics and information about sources and methods included in the memos by the former British intelligence official. That said, the synopsis was considered so sensitive it was not included in the classified report about Russian hacking that was more widely distributed, but rather in an annex only shared at the most senior levels of the government: President Obama, the President-elect, and the eight Congressional leaders.

CNN has also learned that on December 9, Senator John McCain gave a full copy of the memos -- dated from June through December, 2016 -- to FBI Director James Comey. McCain became aware of the memos from a former British diplomat who had been posted in Moscow. But the FBI had already been given a set of the memos compiled up to August 2016, when the former MI6 agent presented them to an FBI official in Rome, according to national security officials.
I think people don't realize the "synopsis was considered so sensitive" here doesn't mean the information was damaging to some broader notion of the country or Trump or whatever but that it was so flimsy that it was damaging to intelligence officials for them to include it in the already vague and poorly sourced report since they knew everyone would latch onto it as we see now.

*Chuck Todd confronted the Buzzfeed guy over this on his show and asked him "what's the difference between what you're doing and so-called fake news?" and the Buzzfeed dude got mad. edit: posted video in politik thread

Fake news tends to be fake and, well, deliberate. Knowingly so. This is unsubstantiated news. At this point recklessly released. Even if it was prefaced as such by Buzzfeed. I think that is a distinction that should be accounted for and that Chuck Todd blurb kinda sums up why I don't really ever turn on cable news. Just explain to the audience the proper context, they are supposed to be journalists for fuck sakes lol, this is kinda where those journalism degrees should come in handy.

As I have been working much of the day until a couple hours ago, this has been my foundation so far.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/us/politics/trump-intelligence-report-explainer.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

My point with the motivation of the intelligence community was not to infer any default in the absence of evidence, but to point out that the answer to that question will likely be rather consequential in elevating or cutting the head off this story. Right now it seems to have a partisan break.


So it's the intention that counts not the result which is always misinformation. And who exactly is the expert on media intentions so that we can separate fake from "real" news?

And how you know the motivation of the intelligence community? Because they haven't intentionally lied before to the American public?

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8068 on: January 11, 2017, 09:23:39 PM »
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How? This evidence is damning, but what impact can it have on his presidency? He's been elected and he's about to be inaugurated. The past year and a half has shown that American conservatives will fall behind a ham sandwich as long as it speaks out against Democrats and minorities loud enough.
Uh, either he or senior members of his campaign staff will be arrested for high/crimes treason.

GOP will impeach him.

They aren't going to keep a compromised Russian agent sitting in the presidency, regardless of if he actually gets arrested.
Keep hope alive! :american

GET THE GIFS: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228120051&postcount=8464

also quote it fifty times!

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8069 on: January 11, 2017, 09:26:30 PM »
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You know I've thought about it a lot and the only things I can think of is that they are so deep in their own bubble that they view the opposing view point as absolutely insane and they either genuinely want to help save our minds or are just fascinated.

Or they're insecure about their viewpoint so they must constantly "win" internet battles.

Or they just like to troll people.
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I'll never understand how losing a primary to Clinton turns you into a pro-Trump, pro-Putin, mega-shill. How does that work?
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I find some of those far left Bernie or Bust types to be phony socialists. They're more like Russophiles.
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Again, it's the same alt right Neo Nazi Gamer Gate trash that have been trying to troll and spread misinformation here for a long time now.
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Mostly is because they know that even if they're banned, Gaf is all about second chances to shitheads so it will only be temporary and they'll be able to slith their away again soon until they fuckup or someone like TestOfTide takes the time to grab some receipts .
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God knows how many fucking burner accounts these lowlifes have on GAF.

I was talking to my girlfriend about this at the gym. It's a big question and one that's probably been gone over a lot here, but what has to happen in someones life to be like this? One of the "deplorables" online I guess would be a way to describe it. These people who lie, spread disinformation, laugh at the disabled, love gamergate, hate women, idolize Trump, the list goes on and on. They're all a part of the same community.

Like, I'm a 28 year old only child raised by a Mom who loved me and a Dad who just didn't care at all, but I grew up on the internet and message boards like a lot of these people probably did. But when I see how utterly evil they are I think they must have just been born this way, that no matter what may have happened to them in their life, it's not an excuse. There's just something missing there.
those poor deluded people trapped inside their bubble, it's so sad they can't see the facts in front of their face to sway them away from evil :snob

agrajag

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8070 on: January 11, 2017, 09:29:38 PM »
drop the oppo receipts testoftide: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228119896&postcount=8451

Quote from: TestOfTide
Quote from: Chumley
Why do pieces of shit like this even come here.

I don't get it.
Oh usually what happens (such was the case with that dude) is they are on GAF for the gaming stuff, then peak over to the off-topic section and decide to spew their uninformed opinions in the off-topic section because gaming side tends to deal mostly with subjective things like taste rather than objective things like political facts (that isn't to say the gaming side is wrong).

lol, I saw that.

Remember when that guy Jado was a GAF hero because he compiled compromising posting dossiers on Gaffers?

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8071 on: January 11, 2017, 09:34:18 PM »
Quote from: Chumley
Why do pieces of shit like this even come here.

I don't get it.

Quote from: Chumley
God knows how many fucking burner accounts these lowlifes have on GAF.

I was talking to my girlfriend about this at the gym. It's a big question and one that's probably been gone over a lot here, but what has to happen in someones life to be like this? One of the "deplorables" online I guess would be a way to describe it. These people who lie, spread disinformation, laugh at the disabled, love gamergate, hate women, idolize Trump, the list goes on and on. They're all a part of the same community.

Like, I'm a 28 year old only child raised by a Mom who loved me and a Dad who just didn't care at all, but I grew up on the internet and message boards like a lot of these people probably did. But when I see how utterly evil they are I think they must have just been born this way, that no matter what may have happened to them in their life, it's not an excuse. There's just something missing there.

Quote from: Chumley
I'm a loner too. Very small circle of friends. Plenty of things that didn't go my way through life, and I was certainly bullied as a kid. But I grew out of that, became a grown up, and have empathy for human beings. Having empathy always seemed like a given to me, but the last year has shown me it flat out doesn't exist and is actively looked down on by people who may have had very similar upbringings to me. And that's what's so depressing.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228121108&postcount=8544

Beautiful self reflection :usacry

EDIT :

Quote from: Snowman Prophet of Doom
Between assuming that everybody with a more conservative opinion is just someone from that Voat board with an alt account and the assumption that everybody who's not sold on the Trump/Russia shit is just a paid Russian troll, NeoGAF is getting very difficult and annoying to navigate in recent weeks.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228121152&postcount=8547

Wow hoped he got good rubles for that post.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2017, 09:39:49 PM by VomKriege »
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benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8072 on: January 11, 2017, 09:39:08 PM »
Quote from: Chumley
But I grew out of that, became a grown up, and have empathy for human beings.

Pretend I wasn't banned and just posted like 20 links (or more like quoted him 20 times) to him losing his shit Walrus-style-but-real at people in political threads over the last two years.

edit: lol he got banned as i posted this, proof i am Steve Youngblood after all


benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8074 on: January 11, 2017, 09:43:01 PM »
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Spare a thought for Mr Steele
According to the daily telegraph he has had to go into hiding since he was outed by the WSJ(?) in my view that's pretty shitty to have put his name into the public domain assuming that he could have remained on the down low.
His life is definitely at risk now and of course his career/company is toast. I don't imagine he would feel to comfortable even visiting the USA after inauguration..
:mindblown

VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8075 on: January 11, 2017, 09:43:25 PM »
Neogaf is fucking infested with paid Russian trolls who do almost nothing but drive-by post defending Russia and whataboutisming the U.S. in every single thread where Russia is a topic of conversation.

It's to be expected. They aren't just on Twitter, FB, and Reddit. NeoGAF is a large forum and drives a lot of traffic to (D) sites, I'd be more surprised if it weren't a target.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228121599&postcount=8572

The hunt is on. FSB central command in Moscow must be shitting its pants at the idea that some Gaffer will detective his way through their post history.
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benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8076 on: January 11, 2017, 09:45:32 PM »
Do you think Russian Intelligence or the gaming industry pays more attention to NeoGAF.com?

Check...and mate.

VomKriege

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8077 on: January 11, 2017, 09:45:59 PM »
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Holy shit Mr. Birther himself wants to whine and cry about how unfair this is. Fucking rich. What happened to your private investigator in Kenya, Trump? You said he was digging up unbelievable info, you disgusting little cretin.

Literally Nazi Germany. Literally.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228121745&postcount=8583

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That thread is :mindblown
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Optimus

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8078 on: January 11, 2017, 09:51:10 PM »
Neogaf is fucking infested with paid Russian trolls who do almost nothing but drive-by post defending Russia and whataboutisming the U.S. in every single thread where Russia is a topic of conversation.


Gaffers are so spoiled and allergic to opposing viewpoints that are now inventing Russian villains that have infested their super important forum that is totally not imploding.

Gotta keep the hugbox pure any means necessary, even with moronic conspiracy theories.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8079 on: January 11, 2017, 09:55:10 PM »
GAF clearly is at the center of all of this. Putin himself deemed GAF so important, his top men have infiltrated the board to sabotage its very foundations.

If only the users of NeoGAF.com could have killed GamerGate years ago, the alt right would have never risen to power, Hillary Clinton would be president right now and the evil Russians would have been beaten back.

 :stahp

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8080 on: January 11, 2017, 09:56:13 PM »
Snowman Prophet of Doom is a really good poster, y'all should hail them over here.
dude's defended me before, straight garbage tier poster smh

Optimus

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8081 on: January 11, 2017, 09:56:48 PM »
GAF clearly is at the center of all of this. Putin himself deemed GAF so important, his top men have infiltrated the board to sabotage its very foundations.

If only the users of NeoGAF.com could have killed GamerGate years ago, the alt right would have never risen to power, Hillary Clinton would be president right now and the evil Russians would have been beaten back.

 :stahp


The plot thickens. Gamergate is in on it with the Russians?

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8082 on: January 11, 2017, 10:00:52 PM »
GAF clearly is at the center of all of this. Putin himself deemed GAF so important, his top men have infiltrated the board to sabotage its very foundations.
Part of this seems plausible. Like they're so bumbling and bureaucratic they saw the #5 site referral ranking in an article and some staffer read the hysteric Trumphobic OT for a week and marked it as a prime target.

Only, like, the whole plan got up to Putin and he called it stupid because he doesn't even go there anymore after the NPD leaks got banned and put the kibosh on the whole thing. And had the person shot.

Er, I mean, the person committed suicide by hanging after shooting themselves in the back of the skull.

The plot thickens. Gamergate is in on it with the Russians?
Gamergate created Russia.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8083 on: January 11, 2017, 10:05:00 PM »
If there are paid trolls on GAF, they're being paid way too much.

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8084 on: January 11, 2017, 10:06:44 PM »
If there are paid trolls on GAF, they're being paid way too much.
Government contracting :trumps

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8085 on: January 11, 2017, 10:11:20 PM »
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What makes me said paid is that isn't never a variety of posters in various threads. I'm a big Bernie supporter and critic of Hillary and how her campaign was run. But whenever there's a thread where the whole Bernie vs. Clinton fight flares up, it's from a variety of posters all posting sporadically.

Whenever Russia comes up in a thread. You see one single drive-by poster infest and bog down that thread for as long as possible. They usually shut up when people go through their post history. At which point a new user who shows up and suddenly starts bogging the thread down with semantics and whataboutisms to defend and muddy the waters regarding Russia.

We also know for a fact that the Russian government do have paid propaganda agents who go out and troll all over the internet. There's probably one or two guys with dozens or more accounts committed to defending Putin in this forum at all times and cheering about his Beautiful Letters.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8086 on: January 11, 2017, 10:11:57 PM »
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It's a bad situation, but the intelligence he produced may just be one of the most important documents in recent history. That is, if it's information is valid and it contributes to taking down a U.S. President.

My thoughts go out to Mr. Steele.
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Omg I know this is horrible but could it mean a do-over on the election? Please please please!! An extended Obama term while it gets worked out would be icing on the cake.
STILL HOPE?!?

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8087 on: January 11, 2017, 10:18:56 PM »
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If there was communication between Trump's Campaign and Russia, Pence gets hit. He was a part of the campaign.

However, if the entirity of Trump's campaign side is convicted of Treason, I can see a very strong case being made for a re-election happening. Because with this election, America will have not only had foreign interference within the Democratic Process, but also an unprecedented loss of the EC while winning the Popular Vote.

It's not just the interference, it's not just the Treason, it's not just the Popular Vote being 2+ Million for the loser, etc. All this together is a shistorm of Constitutional Crisis, and it would help America hopefully move past it.

For lack of a better way, it lets Republicans move on from Trump(Because Pence/Ryan would be viewed as illegitimate heirs by the Trumpettes) while losing virtually nothing, gives them time to try and actually develop a way to "fix" the ACA, and allows for the establishment who were against Trump(McCain,Graham,Rubio,etc) to take back some semblance of Control over the party.
:dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :sabu :neogaf :lawd

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8088 on: January 11, 2017, 10:20:03 PM »

benjipwns

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« Reply #8089 on: January 11, 2017, 10:22:10 PM »
*dies from shitpost overdose on bed the obama's slept in*

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Jesus christ you guys, I have never seen a news station calling Trump out like this.

CNN is making this the second watergate.

Directly saying Trump lied today.
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Might be wise to wait for your marching orders from Mike Cernovitch on what message to go with next.
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Nola

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8090 on: January 11, 2017, 10:30:02 PM »



So it's the intention that counts not the result which is always misinformation. And who exactly is the expert on media intentions so that we can separate fake from "real" news?

And how you know the motivation of the intelligence community? Because they haven't intentionally lied before to the American public?

So if the intelligence community is not to be trusted, ever. Are you just assuming everything they say is bullshit? How does this rather simplistic approach to vetting our intelligence agencies work exactly?

So say if the CIA comes out and says this 35 page dossier is bullshit. Or whatever label indicates the highest level of certainty from them. How do you deal with that?.. Just to clarify, my point had nothing to do with how much or how little I trust intelligence agencies.

As to your "fake news" point. It's "all of the above and more." Basically, you know, look for context and evidence of the charge.  Now for starters Buzzfeed - agree with their decision or not - published the dossier after CNN broke its existence(so did Slate eventually and a few others). A dossier that had been circulating for months apparently. CNN chose to do so because their sources claimed the president had been briefed and through whatever alchemy they make decisions, they went ahead with reporting the story. There is so far no evidence CNN knew it was fake and deliberately tried to mis-inform. And Buzzfeed, even though I suspect motivations that were likely less then pure, and kinda hate them, its hard to label this as unequivocally proof of them propagating fake news.

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« Reply #8091 on: January 11, 2017, 10:36:30 PM »
lol at about fifty thousand people quoting that twitter oppo post and suddenly DetectiveGAF/DOXXXING is a good thing again?
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Just... well wow. Detective GAF doing good work.
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I vote detective gaf become honorary gaf special agents.
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Yeah. Uh, wow. I went and looked after that DetectiveGAF post, and Jesus CHRIST.

also, this guy just woke up today:
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The media is turning on trump already and he's not even in office yet

REPORTING:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228124154&postcount=8775
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Reposting my earlier post tracking the reporting done last year that was basically clues leading to this moment.
only links to three long debunked stories?!?

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« Reply #8092 on: January 11, 2017, 10:37:10 PM »
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If there was communication between Trump's Campaign and Russia, Pence gets hit. He was a part of the campaign.

However, if the entirity of Trump's campaign side is convicted of Treason, I can see a very strong case being made for a re-election happening. Because with this election, America will have not only had foreign interference within the Democratic Process, but also an unprecedented loss of the EC while winning the Popular Vote.

It's not just the interference, it's not just the Treason, it's not just the Popular Vote being 2+ Million for the loser, etc. All this together is a shistorm of Constitutional Crisis, and it would help America hopefully move past it.

For lack of a better way, it lets Republicans move on from Trump(Because Pence/Ryan would be viewed as illegitimate heirs by the Trumpettes) while losing virtually nothing, gives them time to try and actually develop a way to "fix" the ACA, and allows for the establishment who were against Trump(McCain,Graham,Rubio,etc) to take back some semblance of Control over the party.
:dead :dead :dead :dead :dead :sabu :neogaf :lawd

I almost forgot how much I hate the overuse of the word "treason." Didn't spend enough time on right-wing forums during Obama's term, and the Bush era seems so long ago.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #8093 on: January 11, 2017, 10:38:02 PM »

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benjipwns

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« Reply #8094 on: January 11, 2017, 10:40:40 PM »
I almost forgot how much I hate the overuse of the word "treason." Didn't spend enough time on right-wing forums during Obama's term, and the Bush era seems so long ago.

It's been defined down even farther than "fascist" at this point thanks to the collective power of the fanbase of our "two" "responsible" political corporations.

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If they impeach Trump over treason, it'll fracture the party and doom Pence to half a term of complete irrelevancy. If these accusations hold water, the entire GOP as a whole, is in for a rough couple of years.
If they don't impeach him, in the face of evidence and proof of treason, things could be worse. That's grounds for revolution, described in the 2nd amendment as the peoples' right to protect themselves from a tyrannical government. It sucks but that's basically what it's for.

benjipwns

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« Reply #8095 on: January 11, 2017, 10:47:01 PM »
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No, what put us in this mess was letting jackasses like these peddling their crazy-ass conspiracy theories and misinformation campaigns as simple "opinions".

Fuck them, there is nothing to engage. They are delusional idiots that won't ever listen to reason.
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The whole point is that the people we call out are posters who are NOT showing intellectual honesty. there is no convincing these people

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« Reply #8096 on: January 11, 2017, 10:47:43 PM »
I almost forgot how much I hate the overuse of the word "treason." Didn't spend enough time on right-wing forums during Obama's term, and the Bush era seems so long ago.

It's been defined down even farther than "fascist" at this point thanks to the collective power of the fanbase of our "two" "responsible" political corporations.

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If they impeach Trump over treason, it'll fracture the party and doom Pence to half a term of complete irrelevancy. If these accusations hold water, the entire GOP as a whole, is in for a rough couple of years.
If they don't impeach him, in the face of evidence and proof of treason, things could be worse. That's grounds for revolution, described in the 2nd amendment as the peoples' right to protect themselves from a tyrannical government. It sucks but that's basically what it's for.

I don't pretend to be a constitutional law professor, but I am pretty sure that even under the most unlikely circumstance that all of the allegations in the document become proven somehow, it would be hard, if not impossible to realistically charge Trump with treason.

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« Reply #8097 on: January 11, 2017, 10:52:47 PM »
Quote from: Article III, section 3
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
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whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States

The entire theory basically hinges on the idea that Russia is an enemy (a position the government does not hold officially to the best of my knowledge) and that Trump winning the election by Russia third-hand releasing John Podesta and the DNC's e-mails (which had NOTHING IN THEM) is the equivalent of levying War against the United States on behalf of Russia.

We haven't even sent anyone to jail for treason since 1949 ffs. And that was over actions during World War II. And Obama, with less than a week to go, is going to throw the winner of the election in jail for it?

The fucking Rosenberg's weren't charged with treason of all people because we weren't officially at war with the Soviets.

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« Reply #8098 on: January 11, 2017, 10:59:31 PM »
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They have no judgment on it, which means that Trump wasn't briefed about it, which was the original story. They're not going to brief him on material they haven't made a determination on.
Retweeting MAGA & insulting an American war hero John McCain in favor of a fascist racist traitor Trump, and insulting islam = you are a lap dog for a white power hive mind.

Why?

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« Reply #8099 on: January 11, 2017, 11:05:23 PM »
Quote from: Article III, section 3
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
Quote from: 18 U.S.C. 2381
whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States

The entire theory basically hinges on the idea that Russia is an enemy (a position the government does not hold officially to the best of my knowledge) and that Trump winning the election by Russia third-hand releasing John Podesta and the DNC's e-mails (which had NOTHING IN THEM) is the equivalent of levying War against the United States on behalf of Russia.

We haven't even sent anyone to jail for treason since 1949 ffs. And that was over actions during World War II. And Obama, with less than a week to go, is going to throw the winner of the election in jail for it?

The fucking Rosenberg's weren't charged with treason of all people because we weren't officially at war with the Soviets.

For optics and foreign policy reasons alone I think you would steer clear of that shit in any process if any allegations turn out to have some credibility.

As the very process in my mind would likely re-ignite a Cold War. I mean exactly what would Putin - who feels pressures from his own right wing - do in a scenario where the legislative branch is beginning to frame Russia as a sworn enemy, ramping up rhetoric necessary to build the case against Trump? Other then respond to escalation with escalation?