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zepblackstar

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20640 on: July 15, 2017, 01:50:15 AM »
Bangkok Army and Police raid redlight district under orders to arrest “black people"

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1406031


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=243436170#post243436170

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USA exporting the core values again
:comeon


I can't tell if its fake shock that Asian countries not really keen on Black people unless they are tourists. But not shocked that the idiots blame America

Historically, America did export its racism, especially in Asia. That's not to say that BCT rhetoric of blaming America at all times is reasonable, but to pretend this didn't happen flies in the face of facts. After WWII for example, America soldiers used their wide reach and influence to wrongly say that all black people are thieves. This is why in Japan, where there are basically barely any black people, they might assume you're going to steal if you go into a store: it's what they were told by white people. So it isn't really unprecedented. The problem is Slayven makes this point with zero evidence and nothing but feelings and conjecture.

any American influence is tiny at best in Asia.

different society caste system, dark skin meaning you are undesirable, cultural differences

The whole Asian feuds due to various wars, war crimes..etc..etc

Black people were looked down upon in that area of the world way before Americans got there in mass

Himu

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« Reply #20641 on: July 15, 2017, 02:21:13 AM »
Trust me, Asia was racist before US Soldiers got there. Japanese, Chinese and South East Asian relations aren't so good.

Point to me where I said it was the only influence. I'm not a dumbass BCTer.
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etiolate

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20642 on: July 15, 2017, 03:07:47 AM »
:lol I don't mean that. Just Slayven's idea that we can import racism and that its not a natural phenomena.

pizzashit

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« Reply #20643 on: July 15, 2017, 03:41:21 AM »
Does duck really have a list, should I be scared? Do I contact someone about this? The cops maybe?

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20644 on: July 15, 2017, 03:56:25 AM »
I wonder how many minor and petty daily irritations slayven chalks up to institutional racism?

can imagine him losing it at a vending machine demanding that a brother uses exact change.

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20645 on: July 15, 2017, 04:27:43 AM »
:lol I don't mean that. Just Slayven's idea that we can import racism and that its not a natural phenomena.

No. This is an american thing. Like clapping. The was no racism before the USA were founded. Or slavery. Or anything like that. You guys should be ashamed.

Oblivion

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« Reply #20646 on: July 15, 2017, 08:28:00 AM »
As someone who did not participate in that crap, it's very hard to get a complete picture. The internet is not exactly known for being academic when it comes to stuff like this. I suppose the facts are: There was real misoginy, gaming press is filled questionable behavior and thanks to this crap effective critique is set back for a few years. As always after the issue blew up, the only ones left standing were the crazies.

I've been trying to understand GG since it came into existence, and I'm still unclear about what it's supposed to be about. Ostensibly it has something to do with "ethics in journalism", but quite literally every news item that I've seen related to it mainly deals with alt-righters attacking women, LGBT, and racial minorities. Usually spurred by a decision by some random developer to incorporate one of the aforementioned groups. I've never seen any article or video by a GG'er (or at least, one that frequently peruses Breitbart) that every talked about major gaming corporations that may have bribed, or colluded with journalists to provide favorable reviews or whatever (you know, stuff that I think most normal people would consider actually ethically questionable).
« Last Edit: July 15, 2017, 08:40:50 AM by Oblivion »

Oblivion

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20647 on: July 15, 2017, 08:30:35 AM »
Also, "Gamergate" is an incredibly stupid name for a scandal.

Figures that a gamer came up with it.

seagrams hotsauce

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« Reply #20648 on: July 15, 2017, 09:27:53 AM »
I think the dumbest thing about both sides of the Gamergate thing and shit like it is the idea that putting minorities and women in prominent roles is part of a marxist cabal to shove social progress down peoples throats or the lack of representation of minorities and women is due to the pursuit of white supremacy. Companies that spend a half a billion dollars on a game or movie aren't casting to send some message, they're casting as a result of focus testing and targeted demographics

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« Reply #20649 on: July 15, 2017, 09:32:31 AM »
Also, "Gamergate" is an incredibly stupid name for a scandal.

Figures that a gamer came up with it.

It was a right-winger C-list actor, the non-canon Baldwin, that came up with the name. #notallgamers

Rman

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« Reply #20650 on: July 15, 2017, 09:42:33 AM »
GAF still going nuts over boxers using vulgar trash talk. Do these guys even leave their bubble? Expecting wokeness from combat fighters, brehs.

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« Reply #20651 on: July 15, 2017, 10:08:02 AM »
(Image removed from quote.)

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What's the story on that youtube comment?

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60 counts? Jesus christ wtf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=243468045&postcount=80

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A poster in a deleted thread found out somebody got arrested in his local area newspaper for cp possession and that person looked like Amirox. This is significant because Amirox was a former moderator of the forum and pretty much a celebrity poster.Mods deleted the thread to confirm if it was him and not just a smear campaign because he was a pretty abrasive poster who people disliked on forums that shall not be named. This was a difficult task because nobody on the moderating team knew Amirox, and nobody apparently liked him. It's been confirmed to be him and he's going to court soon for 60 something charges of CP possession.

 :money

Amazing how Evilore and the mods have controlled the narrative so quickly and easily. Jesus fuck.
Another great unexplained mystery of NeoGaf happened during that Nintendo PR woman getting fired debacle. The Neogaf Admin was weirdly super hardcore about controlling the narrative of threads about it. It was pretty aggressive. Posts being deleted, instabans, etc.

 :larry I can understand they wanted to avoid gossip and wanted to avoid seeing the thread degenerate into some weird witch hunt or help feed the whole gamergate shit. It was intense in those days. And that person was getting all her past aired out loud and yeah, it was pretty shitty. They had to do it, it was the way to handle it.

 :dayum But what was weird is how the admins and mods were correcting the narrative by saying it was all fake, all lies,  all the pics and sites were made up, etc. They kept repeating the same lines, etc. The tone felt off. Its like they had received orders. Almost.

It was just.. so intensely dealt with. It felt almost personal. The whole handling of the Amirox situation felt exactly the same.

Strange times.

FStop7

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20652 on: July 15, 2017, 10:17:46 AM »
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=243499521

what am it mean te be hooman being

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?!
« Reply #20653 on: July 15, 2017, 01:59:42 PM »
As someone who did not participate in that crap, it's very hard to get a complete picture. The internet is not exactly known for being academic when it comes to stuff like this. I suppose the facts are: There was real misoginy, gaming press is filled questionable behavior and thanks to this crap effective critique is set back for a few years. As always after the issue blew up, the only ones left standing were the crazies.

I've been trying to understand GG since it came into existence, and I'm still unclear about what it's supposed to be about. Ostensibly it has something to do with "ethics in journalism", but quite literally every news item that I've seen related to it mainly deals with alt-righters attacking women, LGBT, and racial minorities. Usually spurred by a decision by some random developer to incorporate one of the aforementioned groups. I've never seen any article or video by a GG'er (or at least, one that frequently peruses Breitbart) that every talked about major gaming corporations that may have bribed, or colluded with journalists to provide favorable reviews or whatever (you know, stuff that I think most normal people would consider actually ethically questionable).

Being fair, PostGG Gaf is less willing to call publisher and journo bullshit. There is a Kotaku thread right now discussing the validity of click bait articles or people still taking Ben Kuchera seriously.


Rman

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20655 on: July 15, 2017, 02:12:32 PM »
GAF still going nuts over boxers using vulgar trash talk. Do these guys even leave their bubble? Expecting wokeness from combat fighters, brehs.

But it's 2017, you're not allowed to use gendered insults anymore!

They do suck, but sometimes I just feel like these guys don't live in the real world.  Are we expecting this level of sensitivity from combat athletes? It's just baffling to me.  You don't have endorse it. But telling people to boycott the fight? LOL.

zepblackstar

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20656 on: July 15, 2017, 02:14:19 PM »
Whats left in GAF are people who don't live in the real world and those who are larping  for approval.

Boredfrom

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20657 on: July 15, 2017, 02:38:40 PM »
GAF still going nuts over boxers using vulgar trash talk. Do these guys even leave their bubble? Expecting wokeness from combat fighters, brehs.

But it's 2017, you're not allowed to use gendered insults anymore!

They do suck, but sometimes I just feel like these guys don't live in the real world.  Are we expecting this level of sensitivity from combat athletes? It's just baffling to me.  You don't have endorse it. But telling people to boycott the fight? LOL.

Being fair, some people on that thread were fine admitting that is just trash talk to sell a PAy For View for what is expected to be even worse than the Paquio fight. Some even celebrate their ability of getting pay by delivering less.

Meanwhile PewDiePie is brainwashing our children.

Himu

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« Reply #20658 on: July 15, 2017, 02:39:03 PM »
Expecting martial artists to give a fuck about this shit

:neogaf

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VomKriege

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20659 on: July 15, 2017, 02:41:57 PM »
Link to :bobby on boxing ? :aah
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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20660 on: July 15, 2017, 02:46:51 PM »
Bobby Roberts has 46 posts in the "Conor Mcgregor refers to black men in Rocky III as dancing monkeys." (most posts in that thread)

Bobby Roberts has 27 posts in the "Boxer Floyd Mayweather called Conor McGregor a gay slur (the f one)" (most posts in that thread)

Bobby Roberts has 0 posts in the "Mayweather vs McGregor World Press Tour: July 11-14, 4 Cities, Open to the Public"

 :thinking
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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20661 on: July 15, 2017, 02:47:37 PM »
(Image removed from quote.)

Quote
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What's the story on that youtube comment?

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60 counts? Jesus christ wtf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=243468045&postcount=80

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A poster in a deleted thread found out somebody got arrested in his local area newspaper for cp possession and that person looked like Amirox. This is significant because Amirox was a former moderator of the forum and pretty much a celebrity poster.Mods deleted the thread to confirm if it was him and not just a smear campaign because he was a pretty abrasive poster who people disliked on forums that shall not be named. This was a difficult task because nobody on the moderating team knew Amirox, and nobody apparently liked him. It's been confirmed to be him and he's going to court soon for 60 something charges of CP possession.

 :money

Amazing how Evilore and the mods have controlled the narrative so quickly and easily. Jesus fuck.
Another great unexplained mystery of NeoGaf happened during that Nintendo PR woman getting fired debacle. The Neogaf Admin was weirdly super hardcore about controlling the narrative of threads about it. It was pretty aggressive. Posts being deleted, instabans, etc.

 :larry I can understand they wanted to avoid gossip and wanted to avoid seeing the thread degenerate into some weird witch hunt or help feed the whole gamergate shit. It was intense in those days. And that person was getting all her past aired out loud and yeah, it was pretty shitty. They had to do it, it was the way to handle it.

 :dayum But what was weird is how the admins and mods were correcting the narrative by saying it was all fake, all lies,  all the pics and sites were made up, etc. They kept repeating the same lines, etc. The tone felt off. Its like they had received orders. Almost.

It was just.. so intensely dealt with. It felt almost personal. The whole handling of the Amirox situation felt exactly the same.

Strange times.


I mean, her views on CP/pedophilia probably earned her an instant honorary account on GAF. Too bad she's too busy scamming nerds on patreon with a couple of shitty nudes a month.

Dennis

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20662 on: July 15, 2017, 02:48:55 PM »
Bobby Roberts has 46 posts in the "Conor Mcgregor refers to black men in Rocky III as dancing monkeys." (most posts in that thread)

Bobby Roberts has 27 posts in the "Boxer Floyd Mayweather called Conor McGregor a gay slur (the f one)" (most posts in that thread)

Bobby Roberts has 0 posts in the "Mayweather vs McGregor World Press Tour: July 11-14, 4 Cities, Open to the Public"

 :thinking

It is almost like Bobby Roberts don't care about the actual fight  :doge

Boredfrom

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20663 on: July 15, 2017, 03:06:28 PM »
Bobby Roberts has 46 posts in the "Conor Mcgregor refers to black men in Rocky III as dancing monkeys." (most posts in that thread)

Bobby Roberts has 27 posts in the "Boxer Floyd Mayweather called Conor McGregor a gay slur (the f one)" (most posts in that thread)

Bobby Roberts has 0 posts in the "Mayweather vs McGregor World Press Tour: July 11-14, 4 Cities, Open to the Public"

 :thinking

It is almost like Bobby Roberts don't care about the actual fight  :doge

Most of the people in that threads don't care. Even the people that plan to see it admit it is going to be a shit show.

VomKriege

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20664 on: July 15, 2017, 03:06:42 PM »
Link to :bobby on boxing ? :aah

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1406343


He only has the most posts by a dozen and has been repeating himself over and over for a full 24 hours.

Quote from:  Robby
What?

I'm not playing a character, and even if I were, it sure as shit isn't fuckin' teflon, Bunny.

Again - your offense at displays of confidence (as meager as they might be in the form of forum posts, of all the goddamn things) is not my problem.

And at this point (far beyond due) I feel like if you wanna discuss me and aspects of my personality that chafe your dong, just PM me. We can talk there if you'd like to further enumerate the things about me that fuel any number of subthreads and off-board forums dedicated to tiny cliques of people who share your concern over how cool people might or might not look here at NeoGAF.com

Who gets heated up about stuff written in forums ? Indeed
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etiolate

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20665 on: July 15, 2017, 03:08:42 PM »
(Image removed from quote.)

Quote
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What's the story on that youtube comment?

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60 counts? Jesus christ wtf

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=243468045&postcount=80

Quote
A poster in a deleted thread found out somebody got arrested in his local area newspaper for cp possession and that person looked like Amirox. This is significant because Amirox was a former moderator of the forum and pretty much a celebrity poster.Mods deleted the thread to confirm if it was him and not just a smear campaign because he was a pretty abrasive poster who people disliked on forums that shall not be named. This was a difficult task because nobody on the moderating team knew Amirox, and nobody apparently liked him. It's been confirmed to be him and he's going to court soon for 60 something charges of CP possession.

 :money

Amazing how Evilore and the mods have controlled the narrative so quickly and easily. Jesus fuck.
Another great unexplained mystery of NeoGaf happened during that Nintendo PR woman getting fired debacle. The Neogaf Admin was weirdly super hardcore about controlling the narrative of threads about it. It was pretty aggressive. Posts being deleted, instabans, etc.

 :larry I can understand they wanted to avoid gossip and wanted to avoid seeing the thread degenerate into some weird witch hunt or help feed the whole gamergate shit. It was intense in those days. And that person was getting all her past aired out loud and yeah, it was pretty shitty. They had to do it, it was the way to handle it.

 :dayum But what was weird is how the admins and mods were correcting the narrative by saying it was all fake, all lies,  all the pics and sites were made up, etc. They kept repeating the same lines, etc. The tone felt off. Its like they had received orders. Almost.

It was just.. so intensely dealt with. It felt almost personal. The whole handling of the Amirox situation felt exactly the same.

Strange times.

The part of this that everyone overlooks is that Exxy/Patrick Klepek got on his high horse about this, chiming in on the terrible situation of women in the industry. His making it an issue caused Nintendo to reply and state why she was actually fired for: moonlighting. And that revealed that she was working as a call girl at the time.

So a press douche demanding to be a knight for a woman cost that woman her privacy.

VomKriege

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20666 on: July 15, 2017, 03:12:26 PM »
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=243519378

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It's not about your confidence, Bobby Roberts. It's about frequency, repetitiveness, and an apparent inability to ever stop talking.

And had I no confidence in sharing those frequent, repetitive comments, I'm sure the frequency of them might be less, yes? Correct?

If my very presence bothers you this much then put me on ignore, Dream.

My invite to Bunny is fully extended to you as well. All dong-chafed kiddoes can drop me a line anytime. I've got a free weekend.

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Amazing thread.
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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20667 on: July 15, 2017, 03:33:00 PM »
Is that a gendered insult?  :thinking
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Raist

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20668 on: July 15, 2017, 03:46:59 PM »
Hooooo another pewdiepie thread.

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etiolate

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20669 on: July 15, 2017, 03:51:59 PM »
Is it because pewdie dropped the wage gap myth?

edit: oh its that bullshit Crave article wow

Like the byline is false by the first minute of Pewdie's video.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2017, 04:02:32 PM by etiolate »

FStop7

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20670 on: July 15, 2017, 03:55:05 PM »
Floyd v. Conor is carny as fuck, even by carny boxing standards.  But preaching at people about how they spend their money on a forum where grown ass adults spend thousands of dollars on electronic toys is ten times more annoying than any of the hype for the fight.

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etiolate

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20674 on: July 15, 2017, 04:04:34 PM »
Is it because pewdie dropped the wage gap myth?

PewDiePie defends Polish politician who believes women are less intelligent than men

It's a great thread.

I am watching Pewdie's video and before 3 minutes are over he's trashed the guy and said he's not defending him. And yet that's the title of the article.

And GAF is going along with the article :lol

CANNONS UP FOR PEWDIE, CANNONS SHEATHED FOR PEDO FRIENDS

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20675 on: July 15, 2017, 04:05:03 PM »
a chinese "masseuse" touched my no no zone, how do i ensure no one ever touches my no no zone ever again

i know

post on gaf about it

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1406569

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« Reply #20676 on: July 15, 2017, 04:10:45 PM »
a chinese "masseuse" touched my no no zone, how do i ensure no one ever touches my no no zone ever again

i know

post on gaf about it

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1406569

I am a hero

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You need to warn people.

Business at that place goes up 800%

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20677 on: July 15, 2017, 04:15:12 PM »
a chinese "masseuse" touched my no no zone, how do i ensure no one ever touches my no no zone ever again

i know

post on gaf about it

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1406569

I am a hero

Was there any need to bring up the person's race in the story, you racist fuck?
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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20678 on: July 15, 2017, 04:16:57 PM »
Dream completely wrecked Bobby. I got burnt just reading it.

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Here's the thing: we know that you think this PPV is a scam, that it's at best a squash match between a "racist" and a "homophobe." We knew this at 12:49am, eastern time, on July 15, 2017. We knew that without you repeating it ad infinitum in the subsequent hours. All you've been doing since then is jerking yourself off.

And if there was any inkling--even the slightest hint--that you knew what you're talking about, the way you do when you muse on, say, the Skywalker clan, there might be a discussion to be had. But when the twenty-seven posts that you've made in this thread basically amount to "don't buy this PPV because I am right," there's no real discussion here. There's just the monotonous sounds of a bleating Bobby Roberts.


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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20679 on: July 15, 2017, 04:21:07 PM »
a chinese "masseuse" touched my no no zone, how do i ensure no one ever touches my no no zone ever again

i know

post on gaf about it

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1406569

I am a hero

Was there any need to bring up the person's race in the story, you racist fuck?

Oh yeah, I forgot masseuse is a maginalized term.

I meant to say slave.
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« Reply #20680 on: July 15, 2017, 04:22:42 PM »
Etiolate:

https://www.reddit.com/r/askphilosophy/comments/6n6rhg/why_are_jordan_petersons_philosophical_opinions/

:shaq

I am reading through some of the replies. My issue with Peterson is I think he misses on people like Derrida, as there's a beneficial reading of Derrida to be had. The problem is that the post-modernists and Marx as what they said is different from the reality of how it's played out. Peterson's concern is the current situation. There's a whole discussion about whether Marxism as it works in the world now reflects Marx's thoughts well at all.

However, for the human being, Marx or Derrida being misheard isn't as important as the damage done by the proliferation of the academic approach today, which has become anti-science, anti-debate, and generally fucked up. So you can argue Marx doesn't reflect the problems Peterson describes, but the problems Peterson describes do exist and they root in a bad form of post-modernism. Like when I said in your thread that there is healthy religion and unhealthy religion, those two types of religions often form from the same source text. This is true of post-modernism as it exists in wider culture. It's the unhealthy form and its the popular form. This reflects the observation that there is multitudes of interpretation, which comes from the literary form of post-modernism (which is the type I studied). Peterson agrees with this, but rejects the idea that all these forms can be valid. He cites AI research to make a point that the interpretation that is functional succeeds since it serves humankind. Destructive interpretations get rejected or need to be rejected for the good of humankind as a species, both social and biological.

Most of the Trans arguments against him are weak and politicized nonsense. To tie both together, I'd point out the most important and startling point he makes in his testimony to the Ontario council on Bill C-16. It comes at the very end where a councilmember asks about the view that Gender is fluid and social. Peterson restates the science on how that isn't so, so the Councilmember asks does it actually matter for the good of the trans individual if its social or biological? To this, Peterson responds that if you argue its social and fluid and you put that argument into codified rule, then you've just given the greatest argument for bringing back conversion therapy. If being Trans is dangerous to the individual, which statistically it is, and as well so is homosexuality, and if these things were social and fluid, then the good and moral thing to do would be conversion therapy to change them.

Thus the danger of the prevailing form of post-modernism and its slithering into Trans politics.

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20681 on: July 15, 2017, 04:24:53 PM »
Dream completely wrecked Bobby. I got burnt just reading it.

Quote from: dream
Here's the thing: we know that you think this PPV is a scam, that it's at best a squash match between a "racist" and a "homophobe." We knew this at 12:49am, eastern time, on July 15, 2017. We knew that without you repeating it ad infinitum in the subsequent hours. All you've been doing since then is jerking yourself off.

And if there was any inkling--even the slightest hint--that you knew what you're talking about, the way you do when you muse on, say, the Skywalker clan, there might be a discussion to be had. But when the twenty-seven posts that you've made in this thread basically amount to "don't buy this PPV because I am right," there's no real discussion here. There's just the monotonous sounds of a bleating Bobby Roberts.

(Image removed from quote.)

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Great Rumbler

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20682 on: July 15, 2017, 04:29:21 PM »
Is it because pewdie dropped the wage gap myth?

PewDiePie defends Polish politician who believes women are less intelligent than men

It's a great thread.

I am watching Pewdie's video and before 3 minutes are over he's trashed the guy and said he's not defending him. And yet that's the title of the article.

And GAF is going along with the article :lol

CANNONS UP FOR PEWDIE, CANNONS SHEATHED FOR PEDO FRIENDS

Nah, he definitely does defend the politician, the first few minutes are just "internet overreaction rage" humor.
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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20683 on: July 15, 2017, 04:44:19 PM »
dunno why gaming/entertainment youtubers constantly swim outside their lane on social/political topics. and seem to always go head first in to the deep end of the pool. just makes em look dumb & ignorant. captain disillusion nails it pretty well here:

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20684 on: July 15, 2017, 04:50:13 PM »
Is it because pewdie dropped the wage gap myth?

PewDiePie defends Polish politician who believes women are less intelligent than men

It's a great thread.

I am watching Pewdie's video and before 3 minutes are over he's trashed the guy and said he's not defending him. And yet that's the title of the article.

And GAF is going along with the article :lol

CANNONS UP FOR PEWDIE, CANNONS SHEATHED FOR PEDO FRIENDS

Nah, he definitely does defend the politician, the first few minutes are just "internet overreaction rage" humor.

Not really. I watched the whole thing.

Pewdie gives the video a clickbait title, probably begging some activist to write a piece on it, which he mockingly refers to at the end with WSJ.

The video is mostly a mockery of the whole interview, because the interview is a spectacle of trash. Piers is an arrogant know-nothing, arguing for women while not letting the woman next to him speak. The Polish guy is so struck by Piers' approach that he stumbles over his words.

But in the end Pewdie points out that the Polish politician was stating the reasons why women may earn less, not that they should. This is something any reasonable person could figure out on their own. He doesn't back up the less intelligence claim. He just points out the obvious about what the politician was saying.

He then ends with the wage gap myth, which he ties into why Piers was acting like an idiot.

Overall, the whole thing is a trap to get something like the Crave article written, which further reduces the prestige of the press by writing it and ends up upping his viewer count.

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20685 on: July 15, 2017, 04:53:10 PM »
Is it because pewdie dropped the wage gap myth?

PewDiePie defends Polish politician who believes women are less intelligent than men

It's a great thread.

I am watching Pewdie's video and before 3 minutes are over he's trashed the guy and said he's not defending him. And yet that's the title of the article.

And GAF is going along with the article :lol

CANNONS UP FOR PEWDIE, CANNONS SHEATHED FOR PEDO FRIENDS

Nah, he definitely does defend the politician, the first few minutes are just "internet overreaction rage" humor.

He sounds extremely ignorant but not wife-beater by proxy like Gaf is already claiming. Then again, that politician sounds like a scumbag.

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20686 on: July 15, 2017, 05:10:32 PM »
GAF minimum signup age is 13 years old.

GAF had a moderator who got popped for beating his mom and yet he retained his access.

Same mod then got caught using donation money to buy drugs.

THEN he got demodded after he was caught (by a user) using his access to manipulate forum data to cover up his own lies.

THEN he got popped for KIDDIE PORN. 

So... the ex-moderator with a documented history of real life violence, theft, and of manipulating the population of a  video game forum with a lot of sensitive data pertaining to children is charged with over 60 counts of possessing child porn.  This should be raising red flags left and right for a dozen different reasons.

What's the official response from NeoGAF?  Are parents being notified? Of course not.  The response is to lie, deny, cover up, and to attack/silence criticism from its own community.  Just like Penn State - go full on cult of denial rather than face reality.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2017, 05:20:08 PM by FStop7 »

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20687 on: July 15, 2017, 05:21:55 PM »
Dream completely wrecked Bobby. I got burnt just reading it.

Quote from: dream
Here's the thing: we know that you think this PPV is a scam, that it's at best a squash match between a "racist" and a "homophobe." We knew this at 12:49am, eastern time, on July 15, 2017. We knew that without you repeating it ad infinitum in the subsequent hours. All you've been doing since then is jerking yourself off.

And if there was any inkling--even the slightest hint--that you knew what you're talking about, the way you do when you muse on, say, the Skywalker clan, there might be a discussion to be had. But when the twenty-seven posts that you've made in this thread basically amount to "don't buy this PPV because I am right," there's no real discussion here. There's just the monotonous sounds of a bleating Bobby Roberts.

(Image removed from quote.)


I bet many Gaffers found that post cathartic.

How can one man have so much unearned arrogance and smugness and not bat an eye? What is Bobby's secret?
« Last Edit: July 15, 2017, 05:26:22 PM by Averon »

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20688 on: July 15, 2017, 05:23:56 PM »
Dream completely wrecked Bobby. I got burnt just reading it.

Quote from: dream
Here's the thing: we know that you think this PPV is a scam, that it's at best a squash match between a "racist" and a "homophobe." We knew this at 12:49am, eastern time, on July 15, 2017. We knew that without you repeating it ad infinitum in the subsequent hours. All you've been doing since then is jerking yourself off.

And if there was any inkling--even the slightest hint--that you knew what you're talking about, the way you do when you muse on, say, the Skywalker clan, there might be a discussion to be had. But when the twenty-seven posts that you've made in this thread basically amount to "don't buy this PPV because I am right," there's no real discussion here. There's just the monotonous sounds of a bleating Bobby Roberts.

(Image removed from quote.)


I bet many Gaffers found that post cathartic.

How can one man be have so much unearned arrogance and smugness and not bat an eye? What is Bobby's secret?

short man syndrome

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20689 on: July 15, 2017, 05:30:20 PM »
GAF minimum signup age is 13 years old.

GAF had a moderator who got popped for beating his mom and yet he retained his access.

Same mod then got caught using donation money to buy drugs.

THEN he got demodded after he was caught (by a user) using his access to manipulate forum data to cover up his own lies.

THEN he got popped for KIDDIE PORN. 

So... the ex-moderator with a documented history of real life violence, theft, and of manipulating the population of a  video game forum with a lot of sensitive data pertaining to children is charged with over 60 counts of possessing child porn.  This should be raising red flags left and right for a dozen different reasons.

What's the official response from NeoGAF?  Are parents being notified? Of course not.  The response is to lie, deny, cover up, and to attack/silence criticism from its own community.  Just like Penn State - go full on cult of denial rather than face reality.

Let's keep in mind that none of the NeoGAF moderators knew him very well, let alone liked him, and any record of him, and Dennis, has rightfully been wiped from all records.

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20690 on: July 15, 2017, 06:38:00 PM »
Etiolate:

https://www.reddit.com/r/askphilosophy/comments/6n6rhg/why_are_jordan_petersons_philosophical_opinions/

:shaq

Most of the Trans arguments against him are weak and politicized nonsense. To tie both together, I'd point out the most important and startling point he makes in his testimony to the Ontario council on Bill C-16. It comes at the very end where a councilmember asks about the view that Gender is fluid and social. Peterson restates the science on how that isn't so, so the Councilmember asks does it actually matter for the good of the trans individual if its social or biological? To this, Peterson responds that if you argue its social and fluid and you put that argument into codified rule, then you've just given the greatest argument for bringing back conversion therapy. If being Trans is dangerous to the individual, which statistically it is, and as well so is homosexuality, and if these things were social and fluid, then the good and moral thing to do would be conversion therapy to change them.

Thus the danger of the prevailing form of post-modernism and its slithering into Trans politics.

What the fuck.
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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20691 on: July 15, 2017, 06:58:32 PM »
Quote from: FrozenPrince
Politics is a circle with the far ends touching tips.

Always been that way.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=243526080&postcount=119


Quote from: FrozenPrince
Shit like this just gives people who would oppress queer people more ammo and drives people of color on the spectrum even farther away (not that this is new, mind you).

Bigotry begets nothing but more bigotry.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=243527583&postcount=128


I think a certain somebody is becoming a moderate darling.  Believing in "Horseshoe Theory" and "Bu bu bu . . . Both sides!!!"


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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20692 on: July 15, 2017, 06:59:30 PM »
I mean, scientists are still studying gender. For him to say this is...wrong

Especially given what the actual science says. For example:

http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2016/gender-lines-science-transgender-identity/
« Last Edit: July 15, 2017, 07:18:03 PM by Queen of Ice »
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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20693 on: July 15, 2017, 07:00:07 PM »
Etiolate:

https://www.reddit.com/r/askphilosophy/comments/6n6rhg/why_are_jordan_petersons_philosophical_opinions/

:shaq

Most of the Trans arguments against him are weak and politicized nonsense. To tie both together, I'd point out the most important and startling point he makes in his testimony to the Ontario council on Bill C-16. It comes at the very end where a councilmember asks about the view that Gender is fluid and social. Peterson restates the science on how that isn't so, so the Councilmember asks does it actually matter for the good of the trans individual if its social or biological? To this, Peterson responds that if you argue its social and fluid and you put that argument into codified rule, then you've just given the greatest argument for bringing back conversion therapy. If being Trans is dangerous to the individual, which statistically it is, and as well so is homosexuality, and if these things were social and fluid, then the good and moral thing to do would be conversion therapy to change them.

Thus the danger of the prevailing form of post-modernism and its slithering into Trans politics.

What the fuck.

Not sure what part you are responding to here.

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20694 on: July 15, 2017, 07:01:48 PM »
Quote from: FrozenPrince
Politics is a circle with the far ends touching tips.

Always been that way.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=243526080&postcount=119


Quote from: FrozenPrince
Shit like this just gives people who would oppress queer people more ammo and drives people of color on the spectrum even farther away (not that this is new, mind you).

Bigotry begets nothing but more bigotry.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=243527583&postcount=128


I think a certain somebody is becoming a moderate darling.  Believing in "Horseshoe Theory" and "Bu bu bu . . . Both sides!!!"

What does "moderate darling" mean?

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20695 on: July 15, 2017, 07:32:57 PM »


What does "moderate darling" mean?

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20696 on: July 15, 2017, 07:33:15 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=243517638&postcount=164

Quote from: wolfhowwl
Souls. The Bloodborne betrayal.

From Software betrayed their PC fanbase by whoring themselves for Sony cash after the series didn't even get big until the PC port to begin with. If they actually cared about their craft as an art instead of just money they would want it to be on the most powerful platform available instead of shackled to a dumbed down walled garden fake computer.

Their treachery doesn't deserve a penny. I boycotted Dark Souls 3 as well.

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20697 on: July 15, 2017, 07:35:46 PM »
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I'll just say it.

I'd happily take a pay cut if it meant women could get a fair wage.

If you aren't prepared to do that, then you aren't really for wage equality. Loads of guys who say they're for wage equality are for it in this nebulous 'so long as it doesn't take a penny out of my earnings' sort of way... and many people who are against it, are afraid it'll do just that.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=243535372&postcount=314

lol, what a sucker

Himu

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20698 on: July 15, 2017, 07:46:21 PM »
Etiolate:

https://www.reddit.com/r/askphilosophy/comments/6n6rhg/why_are_jordan_petersons_philosophical_opinions/

:shaq

Most of the Trans arguments against him are weak and politicized nonsense. To tie both together, I'd point out the most important and startling point he makes in his testimony to the Ontario council on Bill C-16. It comes at the very end where a councilmember asks about the view that Gender is fluid and social. Peterson restates the science on how that isn't so, so the Councilmember asks does it actually matter for the good of the trans individual if its social or biological? To this, Peterson responds that if you argue its social and fluid and you put that argument into codified rule, then you've just given the greatest argument for bringing back conversion therapy. If being Trans is dangerous to the individual, which statistically it is, and as well so is homosexuality, and if these things were social and fluid, then the good and moral thing to do would be conversion therapy to change them.

Thus the danger of the prevailing form of post-modernism and its slithering into Trans politics.

What the fuck.

Not sure what part you are responding to here.

For one, you (and by extension, he) show a gross misunderstanding of what people mean by gender fluidity. When people talk of agender and being gender fluid, that is a completely different meaning from when people say,"gender is fluid." Being fluid has little to do with being a trans woman or man or cis because these are people who can live in either state. Comparing someone who identifies with being gender fluid/agender to a trans woman/man or gay/bi person is nonsensical. It's like comparing someone who is asexual to someone who is straight. When people say gender is fluid they generally mean that there are multiple possibilities. Science - which you say Peterson says denies this - corroborates this with hard data. There are many societies already such as Native American (two spirit) and Samoan (Fa'afafine) that prove this. Agender/being gender fluid is something totally different from what we are describing. I cannot go back or else I would kill myself. Even with being trans and hardship it's much better than being a dude. Using gender fluidity to argue for conversion therapy is a vast misinterpretation of the terms under the example you gave. There's so little we know about agender people that the conclusion is premature and dangerous. It's not even a full consideration of all the facts.
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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #20699 on: July 15, 2017, 08:00:18 PM »
So after raging for pages on a random rumour about Disney maybe going for "white people" for the Live action Aladdin, the main cast was announced. Needless to say, the new thread is still a shit show.

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From a quick Internet search, all I found was that Massoud is Canadian. Anybody know where his background is from?

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Great casting. Shame they didn't cast an Arab Jasmine.

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Basing this purely off their looks since I don't know their work...they look like very 'safe' choices. That is to say, they look Westernised enough that they won't 'scare' audiences away but Disney can still say they fit the ethic brief.

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They don't look ethnic at all, sorry to say

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Naomi looks a bit too white imo, even though I know she's only mixed.

And so on. And on and on and on.