US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Himu]

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mercatus.org%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2Fblahous-costs-medicare-mercatus-working-paper-v1_1.pdf

Table 2, "Change in healthcare spending" and "Administrative cost savings."

Basically Mercatus, a pro-market think tank, did a cost-projection study on M4A which showed it would save money (oopsie!), then notified the press by blasting out a summary which talks about the "unprecedented strain on the federal budget" while leaving out that finding, burying it in the charts and assuming reporters would be too lazy to dig it up themselves.

Whatever you think of the projections (maybe they're wrong! this kind of thing is hard to do), their motive is pretty clear.

Thank you very much for the correction!

[Trent Dole]

Fucking polacks

One of my dumb ass cousins in the states is a trump supporter

His parents are effing immigrants but he thinks they made it due to hard work when in reality his momma got her doctor degree for free kn Poland before they emigrated and he is coasting of that as her kid

Hes also against immigrants

Wish he could be deported back to Poland so he could take some Ls on life

Oh, I can do better than this - one side of my family were in the fucking holding camps before coming over to the US and guess who some of them support!

What the fuck is he even saying.
Even when you rearrange the sentence:
"Must also clear trees to stop fire from spreading"

it still makes no fucking sense. 

Also, water diverted to the ocean. Isn't that just the endpoint of the rivers? 

WHERE WE GO ONE WE GO ALL

[kingv]

I think to go understand this tweet, you need to understand that Trump thinks he’s uniquely genius

Actually, I think that this is a sign of his stupidity. IMO, as you get more and more domain expertise it actually tends to make you less certain of outcomes, because there are more variables you are considering.

[Kara]

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/03/635373608/fight-against-low-low-pay-in-minor-league-baseball-continues-despite-new-obstacl

[Nola]

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1026163246057828357

Definitely think this accurately sums up the base of the 2018 Trump/Republican Party. 

[agrajag]

My cousin's family are Q people.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1026494598263328769

 

[Kara]

Obnoxious Twitter link that could have been a link to the article instead.

As 2018 arrived, the Auto Alliance even pushed junk science, questioning in a legal document whether tailpipe pollution causes early deaths. (Decades of research has found that it does.) The Alliance also quoted legitimate studies out of context, implying that climate scientists “tune” their models to arrive at certain outcomes and that global warming does not exacerbate drought or hurricanes.

Very important for legal entities to have them free speech [sic].

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1026524292396273664

Trump's really obsessed with this water thing.

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1026524292396273664

Trump's really obsessed with this water thing.

[Himu]

DUMP THE PACIFIC OCEAN, ALL OF IT, ON CALIFORNIA. SOLVES DROUGHT AND FIRE WOES.

Checkmate libs

[El Babua]

Corncob the cons

[Joe Molotov]

Think of California with plenty of Water - Nice!

[kingv]

https://twitter.com/msnbc/status/1026569104608702464?s=21

 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/msnbc/status/1026569104608702464?s=21

 

Only the BEST people 

[team filler]

Don't believe the lies of snitchy Rick Gates. Witchhunt!

[VomKriege]

Will have to switch from Witch Hunt to Moscow Trials.

[Nintex]

Seems like Bolton is trying to start a war with Iran before he loses this opportunity.

Sanctions against Iran will be reimposed around midnight, basically snapping the neck of their already ailing economy.
If they don't want the sanctions to be imposed they should come to the table and negotiate with Trump.

[Mandark]

If they don't want the sanctions to be imposed they should come to the table and negotiate with Trump.

Yeah, this is a great idea and not at all dumb.

[Nintex]

The Rick story has a twist.

He says he embezzled hundreds of thousands of dollars he handled for Manafort and Manafort did not know

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1026578182563086337

 

[Optimus]

A few months ago the idiots in this forum were melting down because I said the San Fransisco tech hipsters are coordinating with each other to censor and enforce specific anti-free speech policies.

Today Spotify, youtube, Apple, facebook banned all Alex Jones' channels. The guy is a dipshit but holy shit at these fuckers conspiring with each other to pretty much completely de-platform someone from social media and almost every big media platform on the internet. 

Infowars fires back after Apple, Facebook, YouTube remove Alex Jones content

You were wrong again, geniuses.

[shosta]

I wish someone would censor you, too.

[shosta]

Sanctions against Iran will be reimposed around midnight, basically snapping the neck of their already ailing economy.
If they don't want the sanctions to be imposed they should come to the table and negotiate with Trump.

This post is as hyperbolic as any of your others. The EU already said it would be continuing to participate in the deal with Iran. I don't think anything has changed in that regard.

[Phoenix Dark]

A few months ago the idiots in this forum were melting down because I said the San Fransisco tech hipsters are coordinating with each other to censor and enforce specific anti-free speech policies.

Today Spotify, youtube, Apple, facebook banned all Alex Jones' channels. The guy is a dipshit but holy shit at these fuckers conspiring with each other to pretty much completely de-platform someone from social media and almost every big media platform on the internet. 

Infowars fires back after Apple, Facebook, YouTube remove Alex Jones content

You were wrong again, geniuses.

You don't know what free speech is, do you. Maybe you really are Russian after all.

[kingv]

Sometimes I feel like YouTube and Facebook are conspiring against me.

They keep taking down my “cross dressing bear shoots massive load” videos from my timeline :-/

[Optimus]

A few months ago the idiots in this forum were melting down because I said the San Fransisco tech hipsters are coordinating with each other to censor and enforce specific anti-free speech policies.

Today Spotify, youtube, Apple, facebook banned all Alex Jones' channels. The guy is a dipshit but holy shit at these fuckers conspiring with each other to pretty much completely de-platform someone from social media and almost every big media platform on the internet. 

Infowars fires back after Apple, Facebook, YouTube remove Alex Jones content

You were wrong again, geniuses.

You don't know what free speech is, do you. Maybe you really are Russian after all.

Cue the idiotic SJW definition of "free speech is just law only specific to the government" and then me explaining that is definitely false plus corporations should not have so much power to control and manipulate public discussion forums like the internet. I've had this shitty discussion a million times about this dumb talking point, find a better one I'm too tired today to do this all over again.

Before you get all high and mighty, you should read the Infowars coverage of this, Optimus. Where they compare it to Skynet becoming sentient, link it with search engine censorship in China, ask why 5 unrelated comedy channels that make fun of Alex Jones aren't banned, say it's because the lamestream media are silencing Trump's agenda (which means Infowars is propaganda for Trump then?), among other wacky things like complaining about how they've been shadow banned for months anyway.

The bullshit Jones is peddling have nothing to do with the issue.

[agrajag]

Be upset that Alex Jones is banned from the internet brehs.

[Phoenix Dark]

A few months ago the idiots in this forum were melting down because I said the San Fransisco tech hipsters are coordinating with each other to censor and enforce specific anti-free speech policies.

Today Spotify, youtube, Apple, facebook banned all Alex Jones' channels. The guy is a dipshit but holy shit at these fuckers conspiring with each other to pretty much completely de-platform someone from social media and almost every big media platform on the internet. 

Infowars fires back after Apple, Facebook, YouTube remove Alex Jones content

You were wrong again, geniuses.

You don't know what free speech is, do you. Maybe you really are Russian after all.

Cue the idiotic SJW definition of "free speech is just law only specific to the government" and then me explaining that is definitely false plus corporations should not have so much power to control and manipulate public discussion forums like the internet. I've had this shitty discussion a million times about this dumb talking point, find a better one I'm too tired today to do this all over again.

Before you get all high and mighty, you should read the Infowars coverage of this, Optimus. Where they compare it to Skynet becoming sentient, link it with search engine censorship in China, ask why 5 unrelated comedy channels that make fun of Alex Jones aren't banned, say it's because the lamestream media are silencing Trump's agenda (which means Infowars is propaganda for Trump then?), among other wacky things like complaining about how they've been shadow banned for months anyway.

The bullshit Jones is peddling have nothing to do with the issue.

But...private corporations and businesses have pretty broad discretion when it comes to the type of speech they allow on their platform. Spotify/Apple/etc can do what they want in this regard. There is no legal or moral obligation for them to allow everything on their platform. Hate music is banned on Spotify for instance, that's their call. I assume you're arguing hate music should be allowed on Spotify too right?

This is not a free speech issue and you clearly are confused.

[Mandark]

Is there any reason to believe this is the result of a collusive effort to undermine free speech generally vs. a reluctant move in response to public pressure?

[nachobro]

Jones claimed that he had expected the ban and had prepared for it. He urged his followers to react to the ban by buying more of his InfoWars dietary supplements, imploring them to “feed your gladiator.”

[curly]

really upset that the guy who harasses parents whose kids died at Sandy Hook is being deprived of a platform

[Great Rumbler]

Alex Jones is a habitual line-stepper, he should have been kicked off these outlets a long time ago.

[Nintex]

Years from now, perhaps long after he's dead future generations will see the genius of Alex Jones and appreciate his talent as an actor and entertainer.
Much like how our generation discovered that Blade Runner was actually good.

[Nola]

Probably not

[Nintex]

Rudy's back!
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1026607588719439873

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[Great Rumbler]

There is a moron on Fox claiming I chain smoke cigarettes worrying about the President’s tweets. Don’t smoke cigarettes. Hate ‘me. Smoke only premium cigars and I hope this idiot is not a lawyer because if he is he should sue his Law School.

[Rufus]

Cue the idiotic SJW definition of "free speech is just law only specific to the government" and then me explaining that is definitely false

Go ahead.

plus corporations should not have so much power to control and manipulate public discussion forums like the internet.

Good thing they aren't doing that then. They only control their own fiefdoms. Or what do you mean by "the internet"?

[agrajag]

There is a moron on Fox claiming I chain smoke cigarettes worrying about the President’s tweets. Don’t smoke cigarettes. Hate ‘me. Smoke only premium cigars and I hope this idiot is not a lawyer because if he is he should sue his Law School.

Du
Du hast mich
Du hast mich
Du hast mich gefragt
Du hast mich gefragt
Du hast mich gefragt und ich hab nichts gesagt

[Phoenix Dark]

There is a moron on Fox claiming I chain smoke cigarettes worrying about the President’s tweets. Don’t smoke cigarettes. Hate ‘me. Smoke only premium cigars and I hope this idiot is not a lawyer because if he is he should sue his Law School.

The Bore has officially gone mainstream. Assy McGee Teen Angst Thread's influence

[Steve Contra]

Christ I come back from vacation and accidentally read an Optimus post about Alex Jones and free speech. :'(

[agrajag]

So a Democrat might win Ohio's 12th district

 

[Phoenix Dark]

Don't fall for early returns tomorrow. The democrat will probably be up 30 points due to the early voting at the start, according to Nate Cohn, but ultimately it's going to be close. Regardless...it's a R +12 district, the fact that we're even having this conversation suggests republicans are fucked across the country. Regardless of whether dems win the seat tomorrow or not.

[agrajag]

I know, which is why I said might. He was up in the latest poll by 1 pt, fwiw

[benjipwns]

Cue the idiotic SJW definition of "free speech is just law only specific to the government" and then me explaining that is definitely false plus corporations should not have so much power to control and manipulate public discussion forums like the internet. I've had this shitty discussion a million times about this dumb talking point, find a better one I'm too tired today to do this all over again.

So the government should determine what these companies have to allow on their networks?

[benjipwns]

So should the government should determine what these companies have to allow on their networks?

[Mandark]

Was just thinking about how the conservatives spent years freaking out over the possibility of Obama bringing back the Fairness Doctrine now want to regulate social media like public utilities and I think I gave myself a concussion.

[El Babua]

Nationalize the internet

[Kara]

RE: Trump and water - Water is a meat and potatoes issue for rural conservatives in California. For example, when you drive through the agricultural areas in the central part of the state you'll see many deranged signs posted on the roadside of farms that rant about a Congressionally-mandated dust bowl because the farmers that own them don't actually want to accept personal responsibility for engaging in cash cropping instead of productive cultivation.

San Franciscans also whine about water too, demonstrating once and for all that fishhook theory is correct thought and horseshoe theory is deviationism.

[benjipwns]

I think you mean CORNCOB THEORY:

[Kara]

I only recognize one political use of corncob.

[benjipwns]

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[benjipwns]

wow Kara

https://twitter.com/AlGiordano/status/892949286543077377

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https://twitter.com/neeratanden/status/892951648452128768

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[shosta]

a lot of #resistance stuff [...] stinks of weaponized homophobia by people who didn't think people who weren't straight were people 10-15 years ago.

smh at this blatant hypocrisy
#cobgate

[Kara]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/al-giordano-sexual-harassment-school-of-authentic-journalism_us_5aeb5113e4b041fd2d24580c

[benjipwns]

Naming it the "School of Authentic Journalism" kinda seems like protesting too much.

[agrajag]

They just want to make sure they're not associated with the Fake News Media that is starting wars.

[Kara]

I love how extremely online Neera Tanden is, BTW. When it came out that Lana Del Raytheon (an extremely online--hopefully--former member of DSA Los Angeles) was a creep she actually tweeted about it because they used to pick on her all the time as part of building class consciousness a personal #brand.

[Crash Dummy]

RE: Trump and water - Water is a meat and potatoes issue for rural conservatives in California. For example, when you drive through the agricultural areas in the central part of the state you'll see many deranged signs posted on the roadside of farms that rant about a Congressionally-mandated dust bowl because the farmers that own them don't actually want to accept personal responsibility for engaging in cash cropping instead of productive cultivation.

San Franciscans also whine about water too, demonstrating once and for all that fishhook theory is correct thought and horseshoe theory is deviationism.

my theory is trump recently saw quantum of solace

[El Babua]

[Optimus]

Cue the idiotic SJW definition of "free speech is just law only specific to the government" and then me explaining that is definitely false plus corporations should not have so much power to control and manipulate public discussion forums like the internet. I've had this shitty discussion a million times about this dumb talking point, find a better one I'm too tired today to do this all over again.

So the government should determine what these companies have to allow on their networks?

No, companies should be regulated like the government does regarding free-speech because these fucks are colluding to censor a public space. And to per-empt, don't give me this "make your own social media!" bullshit reply please.

Be upset that Alex Jones is banned from the internet brehs.

Keep missing the point, bruh.