Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 5509567 times)

benjipwns · « **Reply #23160 on:** August 19, 2018, 07:37:16 PM »

Time for a major L, Mandark, Saffire's article can't be debunked for another millenia: https://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/31/opinion/to-fight-freedom-s-fight.html

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'To Fight Freedom's Fight'
By WILLIAM SAFIRE
AUG. 19, 3200

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If Bush follows words with deeds, he will avert that disaster. Instead he will apply his Afghan template: Supply arms and money to 70,000 Kurdish fighters in northern Iraq and a lesser Shiite force in the south, covering both with Predator surveillance and tactical U.S. air support.

In Phase II, I'll bet it was recently agreed in Washington that Turkish tank brigades and U.S. Special Ops troops will together thrust down to Baghdad. Saddam will join Osama and Mullah Omar in hiding. Iraqis, cheering their liberators, will lead the Arab world toward democracy.

It's not a pipe dream.

curly · « **Reply #23161 on:** August 19, 2018, 07:48:27 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on August 19, 2018, 07:21:56 PM

Quote from: Shostakovich on August 19, 2018, 10:49:57 AM
I wish William Saffire was still alive. He'd be having a field day with the obfuscations and euphemisms.

What's with you treating these dead Iraq War stans like they were all Diogenes?

Theory: shosta suffered a major head injury in 2004 and is perpetually stuck in that year a la Andy Richter's character in 30 Rock.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #23162 on:** August 19, 2018, 08:39:41 PM »

Shosta is actually Ahmed Chalabi, who faked his death so he could dedicate his time to re-litigating the Iraq war exclusively on The Bore.

Boogie · « **Reply #23163 on:** August 19, 2018, 08:42:29 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on August 18, 2018, 05:48:58 AM

Mueller has concluded that Papadopoulos is guilty.

He received $10 000 from a foreign agent (but not from Russia) and lied about a few things to the FBI that hampered the investigation.
The requested sentence is:
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6 months in prison
$9500 fine
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This was one of the main 'TREASON!' suspects. So uh....

Quote from: Nintex on August 18, 2018, 08:56:35 AM

I dunno, it still seems like basically nothing compared to what we were promised. Public hangings of the traitors. $:-\$

Steve Bannon is traveling Europe, he was supposed to be executed months ago

Aren't witches supposed to be burned or drowned? So much for a witch hunt.

Do, by all means, tell us what you expected to see here.

Because I'm curious how if, in your world, suspects who cooperate fully with law enforcement are handed down lengthy, punishing sentences, you expect to induce suspects to cooperate with law enforcement in the first place?

And feel free to work that line of thinking into what it could possibly mean here.

VomKriege · « **Reply #23164 on:** August 19, 2018, 09:30:35 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 19, 2018, 08:39:41 PM

Shosta is actually Ahmed Chalabi, who faked his death so he could dedicate his time to re-litigating the Iraq war exclusively on The Bore.

Still a bigger base than he really had in Iraq.

kingv · « **Reply #23165 on:** August 19, 2018, 09:46:17 PM »

Quote from: Boogie on August 19, 2018, 08:42:29 PM

Quote from: Nintex on August 18, 2018, 05:48:58 AM
Mueller has concluded that Papadopoulos is guilty.

He received $10 000 from a foreign agent (but not from Russia) and lied about a few things to the FBI that hampered the investigation.
The requested sentence is:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
6 months in prison
$9500 fine
[close]

This was one of the main 'TREASON!' suspects. So uh....

Quote from: Nintex on August 18, 2018, 08:56:35 AM

I dunno, it still seems like basically nothing compared to what we were promised. Public hangings of the traitors. $:-\$

Steve Bannon is traveling Europe, he was supposed to be executed months ago

Aren't witches supposed to be burned or drowned? So much for a witch hunt.

Do, by all means, tell us what you expected to see here.

Because I'm curious how if, in your world, suspects who cooperate fully with law enforcement are handed down lengthy, punishing sentences, you expect to induce suspects to cooperate with law enforcement in the first place?

And feel free to work that line of thinking into what it could possibly mean here.

It could very well be that there are other unfiled charges pending for Papadopoulos and this kick in the nuts could be the “no motherfucker, we are actually very serious” to get him to cooperate more fully.

One interesting thing I think I saw was they mentioned something about his actions misleading them into not apprehending a suspect. I wonder who it could be.

shosta · « **Reply #23166 on:** August 19, 2018, 10:14:29 PM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #23167 on:** August 20, 2018, 02:11:01 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 19, 2018, 08:39:41 PM

Shosta is actually Ahmed Chalabi, who faked his death so he could dedicate his time to re-litigating the Iraq war exclusively on The Bore.

Nonsense, he's his grandson. Or great grandson, I mean, I didn't look up how old Chalabi was.

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okay, i did, he would have been 74

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Nintex · « **Reply #23168 on:** August 20, 2018, 04:39:19 PM »

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1031608819867156486

The Chelsea vs. Ivanka debate will be lit.

In other news

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- Trump brought a border patrol officer on stage and said: "He speaks perfect English"

- Melania did a Cyber bullying speech

- Melania will visit Africa by herself to see a bunch of poor children in shithole countries

- Rudy has called out Brennan via Twitter and says Trump asked him to handle 'the case'

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kingv · « **Reply #23169 on:** August 20, 2018, 05:23:33 PM »

If Chelsea had a kid with Jeff Sessions it would be a dead ringer for Gollum.

team filler · « **Reply #23170 on:** August 20, 2018, 05:25:09 PM »

chelsea ugly af, even hildawg looked decent when she was young

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #23171 on:** August 20, 2018, 06:30:55 PM »

Well, looks like Chelsea's political career has been cut short now that the incel block has come out strong against her.

Nintex · « **Reply #23172 on:** August 20, 2018, 06:36:01 PM »

https://twitter.com/jeffmason1/status/1031662963445456901

Mandark · « **Reply #23173 on:** August 20, 2018, 06:45:03 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/amirah.ellison/posts/10216952176467802

Keith Ellison's daughter on the accusations against him.

agrajag · « **Reply #23174 on:** August 20, 2018, 06:53:57 PM »

she's a BernieBro don't believe her lies

benjipwns · « **Reply #23175 on:** August 20, 2018, 08:23:05 PM »

Who better to know where to look for his crimes?

kingv · « **Reply #23176 on:** August 20, 2018, 09:42:39 PM »

Quote from: filler on August 20, 2018, 05:25:09 PM

chelsea ugly af, even hildawg looked decent when she was young

she needs to ask ivanka who her doctor is.

benjipwns · « **Reply #23177 on:** August 20, 2018, 10:50:02 PM »

https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1031689315183730688

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #23178 on:** August 20, 2018, 11:46:12 PM »

https://mobile.twitter.com/ActorAaronBooth/status/1031736260577177601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1031736260577177601&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%231031736260577177601

Dems probably can't win back the state house but man if those governor numbers pan out...

kingv · « **Reply #23179 on:** August 20, 2018, 11:50:26 PM »

They need to get that spenditnow attack ad going again.

Mandark · « **Reply #23180 on:** August 21, 2018, 12:03:18 AM »

Just looked up the 2016 MI results. 50-50 popular vote and a 63-47 split in the statehouse.

Has anyone compiled a list of partisan districting advantage for state legislatures?

agrajag · « **Reply #23181 on:** August 21, 2018, 12:31:32 AM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #23182 on:** August 21, 2018, 03:58:30 AM »

heh I didn't even hear that Gary Johnson entered the New Mexico Senate race, it basically took away 2/3rds of the GOP's candidates polling

benjipwns · « **Reply #23183 on:** August 21, 2018, 04:07:18 AM »

the MI numbers don't surprise me, but I imagine Whitmer is closer to her ceiling, and Schuette will close the gap meaninglessly

before the primary, a GOPer I know was talking about how difficult it was to decide between the two candidates for Senate, I told him it doesn't really matter because they'll lose by 25-30 points anyway until Stabenow retires or dies

if the guy ever actually becomes a legitimate threat in the polls due to her ignoring the race, Debbie Spenditnow just has to pay for the guy to have 30 minutes of his own free airtime to talk about his favorite subjects and he might struggle to crack 25%

benjipwns · « **Reply #23184 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:04:24 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on August 21, 2018, 12:03:18 AM

Just looked up the 2016 MI results. 50-50 popular vote and a 63-47 split in the statehouse.

Has anyone compiled a list of partisan districting advantage for state legislatures?

http://gerrymander.princeton.edu/tests/ has some evaluations

MI is gerrymandered but there is a small geographical problem with the population and THE LAKES which means it will slightly favor the R's even if drawn "blind" because the vote is so massively overwhelmingly D in only a few locations, most of which are also along the coast and generally have to be majority-minority. So both parties wind up with a number of districts where they're racking up meaningless points, especially in some of the D ones where the primary is the race.

There is a measure on the general election ballot this year to establish a redistricting commission, there's to date no actual active opposition formed against it for the election. There were attempts to get it kicked off the ballot but those all failed and the opposition group hasn't fundraised or spent.
https://www.votersnotpoliticians.com/

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An extra layer of protection guards against partisan tinkering when the Commission votes on maps. While it only takes a simple majority to approve a voting map, that majority must represent the political spectrum. That majority must include at least two Republicans, two Democrats, and two non-affiliated members. This prevents, for example, Democratic members from aligning with like-minded non-affiliated members to gang up on the Republicans and ram through maps that favor Democrats.

This isn't for state legislatures but Congressional and kinda fun to tinker around with: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-maps/

Brehvolution · « **Reply #23185 on:** August 21, 2018, 08:51:20 AM »

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #23186 on:** August 21, 2018, 04:55:21 PM »

you guys, so much is happening right now

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #23187 on:** August 21, 2018, 04:55:56 PM »

Manafort guilty on 8 of 18 charges [no verdict on the other 10]. Cohen copped a plea deal of some kind with the DOJ.

Boredfrom · « **Reply #23188 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:00:33 PM »

Cohen implicates a "candidate" and admits violating campaign law.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #23189 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:00:44 PM »

Said plea deal has Cohen confessing to violating campaign after being ordered to do so by Trump – and then reimbursed BY Trump.

Nintex · « **Reply #23190 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:02:16 PM »

And Trump's doing a rally today.

https://twitter.com/PPVSRB/status/1032005898888245256

Trump's rally is at 7, so is this
https://twitter.com/HardballChris/status/1032000961911422977

team filler · « **Reply #23191 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:14:11 PM »

Nintex · « **Reply #23192 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:14:27 PM »

TRUMP: "I resign for I am become death the Destroyer the Worlds"

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kingv · « **Reply #23193 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:15:41 PM »

I can’t believe Hillary fucking did this shit with Cohen.

Also, Manafort got another trial coming up in DC.

team filler · « **Reply #23194 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:16:59 PM »

people really excited for mike pence to take over. no idea he had so many fans here

Nintex · « **Reply #23195 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:19:19 PM »

It's pretty amazing.

Mueller started out to find a link between the Kremlin and Donald Trump in an elaborate conspiracy to influence the election.
The most damaging think he came back with (so far) is Cohen paying off porn stars on behalf of Trump with campaign funds.

team filler · « **Reply #23196 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:20:25 PM »

https://twitter.com/walterowensgrpa/status/1032012580519403520

agrajag · « **Reply #23197 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:21:26 PM »

Quote from: filler on August 21, 2018, 05:16:59 PM

people really excited for mike pence to take over. no idea he had so many fans here

Mandark · « **Reply #23198 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:23:31 PM »

hey Nintex

Nintex · « **Reply #23199 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:24:19 PM »

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1032012422738001920

Interesting. Maybe he can convince Rudy?

oh shit
https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1032013851162804224

team filler · « **Reply #23200 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:24:42 PM »

Quote from: agrajag on August 21, 2018, 05:21:26 PM

Quote from: filler on August 21, 2018, 05:16:59 PM
people really excited for mike pence to take over. no idea he had so many fans here

If I gotta choose between pence and trump I choose

Nintex · « **Reply #23201 on:** August 21, 2018, 05:29:43 PM »

Reagan survived the Iran - Contra thing. (As did Ollie North).
Clinton made it through Lowinski and the Whitewater scandal.

There's still hope.

Although I must say. Not going after Bush for Iraq but dumping Trump for paying off pornstars... is the most stereotypical American THING ever.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1032017630662729728
This will be a global broadcast at this point.

The WH staff thinks Trump will pardon Manafort at the Rally and there's nothing they can do.

https://twitter.com/tparti/status/1032015672333795328

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #23202 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:06:05 PM »

Quote from: filler on August 21, 2018, 05:16:59 PM

people really excited for mike pence to take over. no idea he had so many fans here

I got a thing for midwest republican governors.

Nintex · « **Reply #23203 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:09:00 PM »

The rally starts with a prayer, the pledge of allegiance and the anthem and next on the schedule is Trump.

This timeline is so fucking weird.

Rudy weighs in

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Rudy responds: "There is no allegation of any wrongdoing against the President in the government's charges against Mr. Cohen. It is clear that, as the prosecutor noted, Mr. Cohen's actions reflect a pattern of lies and dishonesty over a significant period of time."

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #23204 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:10:36 PM »

Just thinking dumb out loud, if it’s charges related to the campaign, isn’t that Pence’s campaign too?

Mandark · « **Reply #23205 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:14:12 PM »

In a sense, but it's not that everyone who benefited or was part of the campaign is automatically culpable. I'd guess that anyone who was involved in planning or coordinating the payments would potentially be on the hook, which is why it's a big deal Cohen said he was directed by Trump.

obviously IANAL etc.

edit: and politically, Pence has been pretty good at being a good Trump soldier while staying out of the loop.

Nintex · « **Reply #23206 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:21:21 PM »

Jesus christ, this low level GOP flunky governors are pledging their love for Trump at the WV rally.

Mandark · « **Reply #23207 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:22:07 PM »

https://twitter.com/MLevineReports/status/1032026579881349126

Apparently he was the second Congressman to endorse Trump. The first was Chris Collins, who got nailed for insider trading.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #23208 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:35:48 PM »

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1032030337738698752

agrajag · « **Reply #23209 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:36:59 PM »

Quote from: Jack Remington on August 21, 2018, 06:26:55 PM

Quote from: Dufus on August 21, 2018, 05:06:07 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/20/opinion/trump-republican-truth-climate-change.html

an actual good op-ed by krugman

All of K-Thug's op-eds are good.

Mueller playing it tactical.

Q

curly · « **Reply #23210 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:38:05 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on August 21, 2018, 06:22:07 PM

https://twitter.com/MLevineReports/status/1032026579881349126

Apparently he was the second Congressman to endorse Trump. The first was Chris Collins, who got nailed for insider trading.

also the first person to vape during a congressional hearing

and (probably) the first congressman to be investigated for using campaign money to buy video games

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A Union-Tribune review of Hunter’s campaign finance disclosures shows the campaign paid 78 charges to the online video game site Steam Games totaling $1,424 between June 22, 2015 and Dec. 16, 2015.

Hunter and his wife, Margaret, reimbursed 11 charges totaling $122 in three payments, made June 30, 2015, Oct. 21, 2015, and April 8, 2016.

Sixty-five charges totaling $1,272 were marked as “fraudulent charge — refunded” on April 5, 2016, amended campaign reports show.

The couple also reimbursed the campaign an unspecified amount for payments to Blizzard.com, another video game website, according to a report the campaign filed with the FEC in April 2016. The Blizzard charges were paid July 23, 2015, Aug. 24, 2015 and Sept. 23, 2015.

thehunter116 · « **Reply #23211 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:38:48 PM »

Hey all you Trumpists and naysayers.

SUCK MY DICK.

Where is your god now?

curly · « **Reply #23212 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:40:16 PM »

trumpets annihilated

Mandark · « **Reply #23213 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:41:33 PM »

Hunter's seat was safe R but I'm reading they won't be able to replace him on the ballot. *eyes emoji*

thehunter116 · « **Reply #23214 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:42:38 PM »

Nintex · « **Reply #23215 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:44:28 PM »

Quote from: thehunter116 on August 21, 2018, 06:38:48 PM

Hey all you Trumpists and naysayers.

SUCK MY DICK.

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Where is your god now?

When the MAGA states secede and the civil war starts between Commander Jones and General Acosta we will just be sitting here posting our hot takes.

thehunter116 · « **Reply #23216 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:45:26 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on August 21, 2018, 06:44:28 PM

Quote from: thehunter116 on August 21, 2018, 06:38:48 PM
Hey all you Trumpists and naysayers.

SUCK MY DICK.

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Where is your god now?
When the MAGA states secede and the civil war starts between Commander Jones and General Acosta we will just be sitting here posting our hot takes.

Nah Fuck Jay Dubya and Mr SETH RICH.

Nintex · « **Reply #23217 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:55:12 PM »

https://twitter.com/johnrobertsFox/status/1032036171038244864

Fugget about it

Just hit the Trump verse, there will be 40 days of Trump campaigning between now and the midterm election.

agrajag · « **Reply #23218 on:** August 21, 2018, 06:58:49 PM »

Quote from: Exodust on August 21, 2018, 06:53:28 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on August 21, 2018, 06:35:48 PM
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1032030337738698752

He hasn't been the same since losing the Donkey Kong record.

Have you spent the past year in a cryogenic chamber?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #23219 on:** August 21, 2018, 07:00:11 PM »

The president cannot be indicted?

News:

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