US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1071470748991152129

 

[Nintex]

In Trumps view Kelly's out, he's cleared of any collusion charges so he can say whatever the fuck he wants now 

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1071479075699490816

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1071479079558213632

[Phoenix Dark]

I remember Bill Mitchell arguing that the Mueller appointment was a good thing, and later arguing Mueller was secretly working to indict Hillary. And then the Flynn/Manafort indictments happened and he completely changed his tune.

[Cryo]

 

[Phoenix Dark]

PAGING PHOENIX DARK TO THE THREAD

https://twitter.com/iantothemax/status/1070461918123413505

BTW shout outs to Empty Wheel for making me look like a genius to my parents, who literally watch hours of MSNBC every day (including Sundays btw). I told them there won't be a report because Mueller never said there will be one: the only way he has spoken is via indictments. Trump's bullshit about a counter report really shows how unprepared his team is. They want Mueller to release a report, which is why Rudy said he would (and the media ran with the narrative). It's easier to "respond" to a report than it is to respond to, you know, court filings and indictments.

BTW this is why the Q stuff has a sinister undertone to me. At some point Trump is probably going to move from simply tweeting to literally demanding his enemies be locked up. What happens when Jr or Kushner get indicted for instance. Is Trump going to simply say "oh well they're innocent so let's let the justice system do its thing." Of course not. He's going to go apeshit and blatantly obstruct justice. He might even attempt to have Mueller arrested. Or Hillary.

[Madrun Badrun]

Me too, as a Canadian. 

[El Babua]

Ineffectual Neoliberal tweeters squealing "THIS IS NOT NORMAL!" as Trump coup on the entire government is successful and his enemies are put away /Nintex

[kingv]

What happens when Jr or Kushner get indicted for instance. Is Trump going to simply say "oh well they're innocent so let's let the justice system do its thing." Of course not. He's going to go apeshit and blatantly obstruct justice. He might even attempt to have Mueller arrested. Or Hillary.

To be totally honest, I'm a bit stoked for this to happen.

I wouldn’t be surprised for him to try this, but it’s one of those things that he won’t be able to get to go through though. Too many people know it’s against the law, the judges would never allow a grand jury, and the fbi can’t really do much without one. They can investigate, I guess, but without a grand jury there’s no indictment.

[benjipwns]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/08/us/politics/trump-mueller-cohen-manafort.html

Prosecutors’ Narrative Is Clear: Trump Defrauded Voters. But What Does It Mean?

The latest revelations by prosecutors investigating President Trump and his team draw a portrait of a candidate who personally directed an illegal scheme to manipulate the 2016 election

The prosecutors made clear in a sentencing memo filed on Friday that they viewed efforts by Mr. Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, to squelch the stories as nothing less than a perversion of a democratic election — and by extension they effectively accused the president of defrauding voters, questioning the legitimacy of his victory.

“While many Americans who desired a particular outcome to the election knocked on doors, toiled at phone banks or found any number of other legal ways to make their voices heard, Cohen sought to influence the election from the shadows,” the prosecutors wrote.

“He did so by orchestrating secret and illegal payments to silence two women who otherwise would have made public their alleged extramarital affairs with Individual-1,” they continued. “In the process, Cohen deceived the voting public by hiding alleged facts that he believed would have had a substantial effect on the election.”

"defrauded" voters

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[benjipwns]

Honest question, have they ever been right on anything substantive?

I mean wasn't Mueller's Russia mandate supposed to be a front for a deeper investigation into Democratic sex-rings and weeding out the Hillary loyalists before she is put in front of a firing squad for treason and masterminding every Republican conspiracy or something? That Mueller is secretly working with Donald Trump?

Just wait... The game has changed. Let's not discuss dates.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/AccuracyInMedia/status/1070799196935081985

so the whole "Accuracy In Media" thing is more of a do as I say type deal?

[benjipwns]

lol at this being the new "official" AOC picture to put on every story

[Nintex]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/08/us/politics/trump-mueller-cohen-manafort.html

Prosecutors’ Narrative Is Clear: Trump Defrauded Voters. But What Does It Mean?

The latest revelations by prosecutors investigating President Trump and his team draw a portrait of a candidate who personally directed an illegal scheme to manipulate the 2016 election

The prosecutors made clear in a sentencing memo filed on Friday that they viewed efforts by Mr. Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, to squelch the stories as nothing less than a perversion of a democratic election — and by extension they effectively accused the president of defrauding voters, questioning the legitimacy of his victory.

“While many Americans who desired a particular outcome to the election knocked on doors, toiled at phone banks or found any number of other legal ways to make their voices heard, Cohen sought to influence the election from the shadows,” the prosecutors wrote.

“He did so by orchestrating secret and illegal payments to silence two women who otherwise would have made public their alleged extramarital affairs with Individual-1,” they continued. “In the process, Cohen deceived the voting public by hiding alleged facts that he believed would have had a substantial effect on the election.”

"defrauded" voters

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With the way things were going in 2016 Trump would've gotten more votes if it was known that he had affairs with porn stars. It wouldn't have had any substantial effect to the outcome of the election.
That would've been more legal than most of the things he was suspected of doing before, after and during the campaign.

Hell, he told the world he would shoot someone in the street to show he wouldn't lose any voters. The story would've been overshadowed by I don't know, having a baby removed from a campaign rally oh wait that actually happened hmm....

Did the prosecutors watch the same campaign we did?

[Mandark]

If he didn't think it would hurt him he wouldn't have paid to squash the story.

[Phoenix Dark]

If he didn't think it would hurt him he wouldn't have paid to squash the story.

To be fair, he would have paid to stop the "grabbing pussy" tape too if he could have. Still won.

[BIONIC]

lol at this being the new "official" AOC picture to put on every story

(Image removed from quote.)

RBG is sure looking good these days 

[Madrun Badrun]

Stormy might have hurt him in the primaries, but once he was nominated, I think we would have seen the same reaction from GOP as we do now. 

[Phoenix Dark]

Let's not forget that during the primaries he said McCain was not a war hero because he got captured and made a racist attack against a judge. And then as the nominee attacked a Gold Star family.

While Russian intervention clearly helped him win, I still think we wouldn't be having this conversation or be dealing with this presidency if Hillary Clinton had run a competent campaign.

[Joe Molotov]

Hillary should have ran on 90's nostalgia. Every rally should have opened with Eiffel 65 - My Console.

[Nintex]

It wasn't the Russians and it wasn't even Clinton (although her campaign played a big role in it, especially allowing Trump to bulldozer through the Republican party because he would be an easy opponent).
In the end it was the media that got Trump elected and once they had figured out their mistake they tried to undo what they had done but by then it was too late.

And nothing Morning Joe, SNL or Steven Colbert says or does can cover up the fact that he went on their shows multiple tiimes and be allowed to spread his message and/or act like good ol' innocent Donald in on the joke like everyone else.
Those Morning Joe segments were really something. "Let's call Donald to see what crazy antics he's up to today!" But really, who can blame them. Trump gave access to his campaign, you could get him to give an opinion on any story of the day plus people would tune in to watch the cricus. Not to mention CNN covered the insanity of his campaign 24/7. It was actually Fox who didn't really like Trump when he started out because they thought he wasn't a real conservative.

Fox News strangely enough wasn't Trump's propaganda channel until he was elected.

The Russian campaign would've never worked without wall to wall coverage of Wikileaks' revelations on CNN/MSNBC etc. . The Facebook ad buys of the Russians were just a drop in the bucket.


Anyhow, just in. Ayers is out. He doesn't want to replace Kelly so that has Trump scrambling to look for a replacement despite having already announced Kelly's departure.
He's now floating around about 4 names. Axios has figured out the first:  Mark Meadows.

Trump has asked confidants what they think about the idea of installing Rep. Mark Meadows, the chairman of the ultra-conservative House Freedom Caucus, as John Kelly's permanent replacement, according to these three sources. Trump has also mentioned three other candidates besides Meadows, according to a source with direct knowledge. I don't yet have their names.

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/olgaNYC1211/status/1071040833963610112

hmmm

[benjipwns]

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/09/corsi-mueller-lawsuit-klayman-stone-wikileaks-1054204

An author and conspiracy theorist who says he’s being threatened with indictment by special counsel Robert Mueller’s team in the Trump-Russia probe filed a federal lawsuit Sunday night accusing Mueller of constitutional violations and leaking grand jury secrets.

Jerome Corsi’s new suit against Mueller also accuses the special prosecutor of trying to badger Corsi into giving false testimony that he served as a conduit between Wikileaks found Julian Assange and Roger Stone, a longtime adviser to then-candidate Donald Trump.

“Defendant Mueller and his prosecutorial staff have demanded that Plaintiff Corsi falsely testify that he acted as a liaison between Roger Stone and WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange concerning the public release of emails downloaded from the DNC’s servers,” the complaint says.

Corsi is demanding $100 million in actual damages and $250 million in punitive damages for injury to his reputation.

“Defendants Mueller, DOJ, NSA, CIA, and FBI have engaged in ongoing illegal, unconstitutional surveillance on Plaintiff Corsi, in violation of the Fourth Amendment and the USA FREEDOM Act as well targeted ‘PRISM’ collection under Section 702 of the Foreign Sovereignties Immunity Act at the direction of Defendant Mueller,” the suit says, with the latter reference apparently intending to invoke a different statute, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

Corsi’s suit also levels harsh invective at the special counsel’s team, at one point referring to “Defendant Mueller and his leftist and Democrat partisan prosecutorial and ethically and legally conflicted staff.”

Mueller Witch Hunt annihilated

[kingv]

Foreign Sovereign immunities act?! 😂

He meant FISA. Foreign intelligence surveillance act....

But you know, uhhh. Top notch lawyering.

[benjipwns]

Charlie Sloan
Michael Duplessis they must had got that tactic from your DEMAKKKRATs.....they seem to know a lot about false sex allegations...stupid bitch

BRUTALITY

[Brehvolution]

Only the best people.

You will be sick of so much winning.

No collusion.

Is America great again yet?

[Mandark]

BTW this is why the Q stuff has a sinister undertone to me. At some point Trump is probably going to move from simply tweeting to literally demanding his enemies be locked up. What happens when Jr or Kushner get indicted for instance. Is Trump going to simply say "oh well they're innocent so let's let the justice system do its thing." Of course not. He's going to go apeshit and blatantly obstruct justice. He might even attempt to have Mueller arrested. Or Hillary.

The core fantasy of all Trump's enemies being arrested and put in front of a military tribunal is as fascist as you can get.

[agrajag]

remember kids, it's not fascism unless you literally dress up in 1930's Italian military garb

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1072095127894667265

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1072098604599394305

"smocking gun"

[Joe Molotov]

No covfefe

[stufte]

Covfefe flavored smock.

[Great Rumbler]

Can't wait until Q posts about how "smocking" is actually a code word that proves Hillary and Obama and Jeb! will be arrested soon.

[stufte]

It kills me that he misspelled it TWICE.



*EDIT*

OH SHIT I FOUND THE SMOCKING GUNN

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1072136450030878720

 

[Joe Molotov]

If taking bribes is a crime, then smock me up!

[kingv]

Can't wait until Q posts about how "smocking" is actually a code word that proves Hillary and Obama and Jeb! will be arrested soon.

https://twitter.com/sninkems/status/1072194982939897856

[kingv]

I created that from my burner twitter account had retweets within, no shit, 30 seconds.

On a 0 follower account, 😂

[Nintex]

"Totally innocent, THANK YOU!"
https://twitter.com/cryanbarber/status/1072155757976698881

 

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[TakingBackSunday]

This country is fucking stupid

[agrajag]

let me be a spy and post all my activities on social media

[I'm a Puppy!]

The Dow is down another 500 today. Ouch.

[Nintex]

The Dow is down another 500 today. Ouch.

SO MUCH WINNING.

Please Mr. President, stop winning. We've won so much. We can't take all the winning anymore!

The economy got so hot it had to cool off. Otherwise the ice caps would've melted and Al Gore was right.

[Trent Dole]

let me be a spy and post all my activities on social media

Don Jr. account spotted.

[Mandark]

Stocks are only doing badly if you measure them using fake government fiat money. Valued in crypto, the Dow is way up this year.

[Nintex]

Journo's are starting to realize that with Trump's latest tweets he basically confirmed the Stormy Daniels story that he called 'fake news' for months. 


Mulvaney, Meadows and Mnuchin don't want to be chief of staff.

So who's left? Hicks? Hannity? Trump is apparently "SUPER PISSED" that people are declining the job 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1072257177178521601
Of course they want to do that. 

[Joe Molotov]

Majestic.

[Dickie Dee]

His hands really are so fucking small

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1072271165459185664

 

“Unrelated to specific presidential campaigns,”  Erickson wrote in an October 2016 email to an acquaintance that was later obtained by the FBI, “I’ve been involved in securing a VERY private line of communication between the Kremlin and key [unnamed political party] leaders through, of all conduits, the [unnamed gun-rights organization].”
 

And during an FBI raid of Erickson’s South Dakota home, investigators discovered a handwritten note suggesting Erickson may have been aware of a possible job offer from Russian intelligence services: “How to respond to FSB offer of employment?”  Erickson scratched, an apparent reference to the Russian equivalent of the CIA.

[Tripon]

How in the hell do you even write FSB. Do these people think nobody was watching them?

[kingv]

https://twitter.com/acarpenterslife/status/1072199824014012416

 

That’s a good wisdom

[benjipwns]

How in the hell do you even write FSB. Do these people think nobody was watching them?

"remember to send resume to jobs@FSB.ru"

[Great Rumbler]

How in the hell do you even write FSB. Do these people think nobody was watching them?

I mean, they probably would have gotten away with it if they hadn't been swept up in the Trump investigation.

[Yeti]

[benjipwns]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/beto-o-rourke-sounding-out-prominent-black-democrats-he-ponders-n946281

Beto O’Rourke hasn’t made up his mind about a possible presidential run in 2020, but behind the scenes he’s speaking to potential kingmakers among a constituency whose support he’ll need in a Democratic primary: African-Americans.

In the last two weeks, the soon-to-be-former Texas congressmen met with former President Barack Obama at his Washington office, a source familiar with the meeting confirmed to NBC News, and spoke by phone with the Rev. Al Sharpton and fellow 2018 progressive darling Andrew Gillum.

Wow! Al Sharpton!

[benjipwns]

This was some epic high level Lou Dobbs play that left me in awe:

Our top story tonight, the radical Dimms and the left-wing national media, on a tirade against the president offering up constant and ceaseless attacks on his presidency, joining in on their warrantless assault have been all of their deep state cronies in the Intelligence Agencies, obsessing over imaginary campaign finance allegations and Trump family business dealings... That's right, Trump family business dealings now apparently the pursuit of the so-called "special" counsel.

...

Despite all of that the only way it seems to stop all of this madness and satisfy the DIMMS would be to throw our borders wide open; to outsource millions more of our jobs to cheap foreign labor markets; and hold perhaps a surrender ceremony in the South Lawn of the White House in which the president could turn over power to the left's cohorts on Wall Street, the Koch brothers, the Business Roundtable, and the Chamber of Commerce. Nothing less it seems would satisfy them, so they will remain unsatisfied.

[kingv]

Koch brother and the chamber of commerce are the left now!?

[benjipwns]

So are Macron and Theresa May btw, and the protests in France are against their globalist socialist open borders policies.

My theory is that Lou exists within a pocket universe, his show provides compelling evidence this is the case, as only two people ever appear in studio with him (one of whom lives in the studio), and he basically only has the same set of guests on ever, all by remote interview. And the subject is always the radical DIMMS and LEFT WING MEDIA attacks on our President stopping him from creating THE BORDER WALL to save us from the OPEN BORDERS AGENDA of Wall Street, the Koch brothers, the Business Roundtable, and the Chamber of Commerce. He always says those four, in that order. And multiple times an episode. Often interrupting guests to say it. Sometimes more than once. It's really quite fascinating.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-cherishes-lou-dobbs-so-much-he-puts-him-on-speakerphone-for-oval-office-meetings

It’s not just that President Donald Trump loves Dobbs’ show and his on-air style. It’s not just that the president asks West Wing aides and confidants if they’ve seen specific, recent segments of Dobbs’ program, or that Trump calls the cable-news personality semi-regularly to gossip or solicit counsel, or that he’s boosted Dobbs on his Twitter account. It’s not just that the president has sat for a friendly interview with Dobbs or that he is on a first-name basis with “Lou.”

Indeed, much of this can describe Trump’s relationships with various other television personalities. What sets Dobbs apart is the degree to which the president views him as a populist political godfather, the #MAGA Socrates to Trump’s Plato.

As such, Dobbs doesn’t get to just interview and socialize with the president; he is involved in some of the administration’s more sensitive discussions. During the first year of the Trump era, the president has patched in Dobbs via speakerphone to multiple meetings in the Oval Office so that he could offer his two cents, according to three sources familiar with these conversations. Trump will ask Dobbs for his opinion before and after his senior aides or Cabinet members have spoken. Occasionally, he will cut off an official so the Fox Business host can jump in.

Dobbs, these sources all independently recounted, has been patched in to senior-level meetings on issues such as trade and tax policy—meetings that featured officials such as senior policy adviser Stephen Miller, former top economic adviser Gary Cohn, former chief strategist Steve Bannon, trade adviser Peter Navarro, and Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin.

During the more intense days of the tax-bill push, Trump made sure to have his White House personal secretary get Dobbs on the line. And toward the conclusion of one memorable meeting, when the line was disconnected and Dobbs said farewell, Trump looked up, smiled, and simply told the room, “Love Lou.”

“I wish the president watched no TV, except Lou Dobbs,” Ann Coulter—a conservative columnist who has over the past year expressed her sense of betrayal at President Trump’s actions versus candidate Trump’s assurances—wrote to The Daily Beast in an email.

Coulter had recently appeared on Dobbs’ show to discuss her horror at how the Trump era has played out so far. “I don’t know what happened. But that’s a different president. I haven’t changed. He has,” she insisted.

Dobbs was quick to stick up for the president he informally advises and the man he has known for years. Nothing here, to Trump’s “Lou,” was President Trump’s fault, as he pushed back on Coulter’s broadside.

“Affirmation complexes are never attractive and unfortunately I believe there is some truth to the fact that there are those in the White House who would like to guide him toward this liberal fantasy that is a nightmare for America and has proved to be such for our middle class, which has been dwindling for the past 20 years,” Dobbs replied. “Under this president, they’re starting to grow and money is starting to come in and we’re starting to see housing prices rise.”

Dobbs' show is the highest rated on the business channels. And if he wasn't so valuable in selling Fox Business, he would have taken O'Reilly's slot instead of Tucker.

Fox shared some evidence that its viewers with both channels pop over to watch Dobbs at 7PM, some go back to Tucker at 8PM and the rest come back for Hannity at 9PM. That was one reason they moved Kennedy (of MTV fame) to 9PM and stuck in a Dobbs as a Fox News Lady show at 8PM, the audience drop off was massive. Especially with Kennedy being Trump-skeptical and pro-immigration. (For Fox at least.)

[Dickie Dee]

Goes in here I guess?

https://twitter.com/TIME/status/1072474968078893056

Time magazine has chosen "The Guardians," a group of journalists who have been targeted for their work, as Person of the Year.

A series of four black-and-white covers highlights what the magazine calls "the War on Truth."
The group includes Jamal Khashoggi, the Washington Post contributor who was killed at the Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul in October. This is the first time that a Person of the Year is a deceased person.
Another cover features Wa Lone and Kyaw Soe Oo, two Reuters journalists who were arrested late last year in Myanmar while they were working on stories about the killings of Rohingya Muslims, a minority population in Myanmar's Rakhine state. The two men remain behind bars. Their wives were photographed for the cover.

[benjipwns]

As a fellow TIME Person of the Year (2006), I am glad they didn't pick Q. Nor runners-up Ryan Coogler and Meghan Markle.

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1072483770819846144

Literally tens of people want this job! Some of them not even employees of Fox News.