Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 5447665 times)

shosta · « **Reply #27600 on:** November 14, 2018, 10:09:08 PM »

check again

kingv · « **Reply #27601 on:** November 14, 2018, 10:59:48 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on November 14, 2018, 09:59:20 PM

They hired a company to smear their critics with the Soros conspiracy theory and they pressured the ADL to label criticism of Facebook as antisemitic.

That's chutzpah.

Just a couple of Jews stirring up a little anti-Semitism for money...

Brehvolution · « **Reply #27602 on:** November 15, 2018, 09:21:26 AM »

Quote from: shosta on November 14, 2018, 09:49:14 PM

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While Mr. Zuckerberg has conducted a public apology tour in the last year, Ms. Sandberg has overseen an aggressive lobbying campaign to combat Facebook’s critics, shift public anger toward rival companies and ward off damaging regulation. Facebook employed a Republican opposition-research firm to discredit activist protesters, in part by linking them to the liberal financier George Soros.

Do you guys remember when Facebook made a lot of noise that they were fighting fake news

Sandberg was also furious at employees looking into Russian influence without permission saying any evidence would make the company look bad.
https://www.recode.net/2018/11/15/18095967/facebook-new-york-times-story-mark-zuckerberg-sheryl-sandberg-fired

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The story claims that Sandberg was angry when she first learned executives were digging into Russian election meddling without permission in early 2016, and was later an advocate internally for keeping critical information about that investigation out of the public eye.

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This section of the story about the company’s decision not to name Russia in its first public white paper about the incident summarizes how both executives came across more broadly throughout the piece:

If Facebook implicated Russia further, Mr. Kaplan said, Republicans would accuse the company of siding with Democrats. And if Facebook pulled down the Russians’ fake pages, regular Facebook users might also react with outrage at having been deceived: His own mother-in-law, Mr. Kaplan said, had followed a Facebook page created by Russian trolls.

Ms. Sandberg sided with Mr. Kaplan, recalled four people involved. Mr. Zuckerberg — who spent much of 2017 on a national “listening tour,” feeding cows in Wisconsin and eating dinner with Somali refugees in Minnesota — did not participate in the conversations about the public paper. When it was published that April, the word “Russia” never appeared.

Admitting the truth makes you look like you are siding with the Democrats.

Nintex · « **Reply #27603 on:** November 15, 2018, 10:19:27 AM »

Perhaps big finance and world leaders should've not shoveled percentages of their GDP to Silicon Valley and their private data theft operation because computers in the cloud are cool.

Perhaps.

jorma · « **Reply #27604 on:** November 15, 2018, 10:25:17 AM »

Quote from: kingv on November 14, 2018, 12:37:31 PM

How the fuck does LEGO not have a trademark on the basic design of a lego figurine that prevents people from legally making knockoff legos?

It’s not like they don’t use the LEGO figures in tons of promotional shit, or tv shows. Did they just not defend it?

they did, but the patents expired and they didn't have that disney clout to extend them perpetually. it's the patenting system working as intended, i guess.

agrajag · « **Reply #27605 on:** November 15, 2018, 10:36:08 AM »

https://twitter.com/Comey/status/1062853932576321538

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #27606 on:** November 15, 2018, 10:40:06 AM »

Quote from: agrajag on November 15, 2018, 10:36:08 AM

https://twitter.com/Comey/status/1062853932576321538

Occam · « **Reply #27607 on:** November 15, 2018, 10:41:12 AM »

The acting AG of the US:
https://m.

You can't make this up.

agrajag · « **Reply #27608 on:** November 15, 2018, 10:42:47 AM »

please pay your respects to Benji's passing.

VomKriege · « **Reply #27609 on:** November 15, 2018, 10:56:24 AM »

As often, the War College podcast has a good topic selection, here a short discussion on when thousands of bombings were recorded in America, sometimes several a day.

https://www.acast.com/warcollege/whenpoliticalviolenceexplodedinamerica

Brehvolution · « **Reply #27610 on:** November 15, 2018, 10:58:19 AM »

Quote from: agrajag on November 15, 2018, 10:42:47 AM

please pay your respects to Benji's passing.

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Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #27611 on:** November 15, 2018, 11:10:58 AM »

Quote from: agrajag on November 15, 2018, 10:36:08 AM

https://twitter.com/Comey/status/1062853932576321538

I guess you can't wag the dog too much.

Nintex · « **Reply #27612 on:** November 15, 2018, 12:11:55 PM »

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1063111419158245376

Wasn't Flynn's case about this

Skullfuckers Anonymous · « **Reply #27613 on:** November 15, 2018, 12:16:37 PM »

Quote from: agrajag on November 15, 2018, 10:36:08 AM

https://twitter.com/Comey/status/1062853932576321538

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Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #27614 on:** November 15, 2018, 12:47:28 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on November 15, 2018, 12:11:55 PM

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1063111419158245376

Wasn't Flynn's case about this

flynn who?

Mandark · « **Reply #27615 on:** November 15, 2018, 01:32:15 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on November 07, 2018, 03:18:40 PM

Looking forward to a week of spin about how the Sessions firing is completely unrelated to Mueller before Trump just blurts out the truth in front of a camera.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/14/transcript-trump-daily-caller-interview/

Literally one week. Ha ha ha.

HardcoreRetro · « **Reply #27616 on:** November 15, 2018, 01:39:15 PM »

You gotta love Trump's eloquence.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #27617 on:** November 15, 2018, 01:58:43 PM »

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-hippodrome-20181114-story.html

curly · « **Reply #27618 on:** November 15, 2018, 04:59:43 PM »

https://twitter.com/eScarry/status/1063183409458102272

AOC got them pressed

Mandark · « **Reply #27619 on:** November 15, 2018, 05:04:43 PM »

That dude's commitment to keeping the tweet up is creating an apocalyptic ratio.

Nintex · « **Reply #27620 on:** November 15, 2018, 06:08:55 PM »

Now watch them hook up and this season will get really weird.

Mandark · « **Reply #27621 on:** November 15, 2018, 06:10:13 PM »

creepier than your usual fanfiction

seagrams hotsauce · « **Reply #27622 on:** November 15, 2018, 06:12:21 PM »

Quote from: curly on November 15, 2018, 04:59:43 PM

https://twitter.com/eScarry/status/1063183409458102272

AOC got them pressed

homeboy is wearing a floral skinny tie, so it seems like he's speaking from a place of authority when it comes to the topic of struggle fashion

Nintex · « **Reply #27623 on:** November 15, 2018, 06:31:20 PM »

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1063208373192146945

YAASSS SLAY QUEEN

Shine bright & keep it pushing.✨

agrajag · « **Reply #27624 on:** November 15, 2018, 06:34:25 PM »

what's mockworthy about that tweet, honest question

Mandark · « **Reply #27625 on:** November 15, 2018, 06:47:27 PM »

Quote from: agrajag on November 15, 2018, 06:34:25 PM

what's mockworthy about that tweet, honest question

Literally every conservative dude is both horny for and enraged by AOC. Kind of fascinating to watch.

Nintex · « **Reply #27626 on:** November 15, 2018, 06:49:23 PM »

https://twitter.com/TheBeatWithAri/status/1063212539532767234

Thank you Florida

Quote from: agrajag on November 15, 2018, 06:34:25 PM

what's mockworthy about that tweet, honest question

Nothing, I'm just glad she's keeping the Twitter feud alive. Maybe Trump will weigh in too.

agrajag · « **Reply #27627 on:** November 15, 2018, 06:54:20 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on November 15, 2018, 06:47:27 PM

Quote from: agrajag on November 15, 2018, 06:34:25 PM
what's mockworthy about that tweet, honest question

Literally every conservative dude is both horny for and enraged by AOC. Kind of fascinating to watch.

right. Not sure if there was confusion, I was asking Nintex why he was seemingly mocking her for defending herself against a, let's be honest, sexist attack.

Mandark · « **Reply #27628 on:** November 15, 2018, 06:55:51 PM »

Oh, I meant that specifically as an explanation for his post.

shosta · « **Reply #27629 on:** November 15, 2018, 06:56:24 PM »

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1063189124503416833

cernovich is still unpredictable to me

agrajag · « **Reply #27630 on:** November 15, 2018, 06:57:31 PM »

a wild good guy Cernovich appears?

Nintex · « **Reply #27631 on:** November 15, 2018, 07:00:00 PM »

Jesus christ, now Shapiro and the rest are posting their takes.
All we need now is Dr. Peterson to come in and tell everyone female crabs polish their shells like humans put on nice clothes and what are you gonna do about eet.

Nope, not soiling our sacred grounds with that drivel.

shosta · « **Reply #27632 on:** November 15, 2018, 07:00:43 PM »

I remember that one time cernovich was like "guys, I'm starting to think Trump was a mistake of a president" when the Charlottesville stuff happened but then he took out Al Franken so basically he's a cindi tier political commentator

Mandark · « **Reply #27633 on:** November 15, 2018, 07:02:24 PM »

Cernovich and Posobiec are both trying to rebrand as "respectable" and ditch their pizzagate roots, I think.

Nintex · « **Reply #27634 on:** November 15, 2018, 07:05:49 PM »

Quote from: shosta on November 15, 2018, 07:00:43 PM

I remember that one time cernovich was like "guys, I'm starting to think Trump was a mistake of a president" when the Charlottesville stuff happened but then he took out Al Franken so basically he's a cindi tier political commentator

The only good thing Cernovich did was head to the DNC to show the protests and how the progressives were shut out from the nomination proceedings.
That's what got him his followers too. He was basically the only guy outside on the streets showing the fence around the DNC and the protestors trying to get in.

Otherwise he has always been this weird awful creep that doesn't shower because he's addicted to the smell of his own piss, shit and vomit.

kingv · « **Reply #27635 on:** November 15, 2018, 09:53:25 PM »

Once you understand all these alt-right Twitter trump supporters are just grifters it makes a lot more sense.

Look at Candace Owens being a hill bot until like November 2016.

shosta · « **Reply #27636 on:** November 15, 2018, 11:08:23 PM »

since it's late 2018 might as well start talking about the 2020 candidates now. from npr:

Senators
Cory Booker of New Jersey
Sherrod Brown of Ohio
Kamala Harris of California
Kirsten Gillibrand of New York
Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota
Jeff Merkley of Oregon
Bernie Sanders of Vermont
Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts

Representatives
John Delaney of Maryland (declared)
Beto O'Rourke of Texas
Eric Swalwell of California

Governors
Steve Bullock of Montana
John Hickenlooper of Colorado
Jay Inslee of Washington
Terry McAuliffe of Virginia (former)
Deval Patrick of Massachusetts (former)

Others
Former Vice President Joe Biden
Businessman and former Mayor Michael Bloomberg, New York City
~~Attorney Michael Avenatti~~
Mayor Eric Garcetti, Los Angeles
State Sen. Richard Ojeda of West Virginia (declared)
Activist and philanthropist Tom Steyer

surprised sherrod is on this list pondering a run tbh

Mandark · « **Reply #27637 on:** November 15, 2018, 11:14:05 PM »

The case for Brown is pretty straightforward: he keeps winning elections in Ohio while running on economic populism, so the hope is he'd connect with WWC voters in the midwest while still being acceptable to the progressive wing of the party.

Downside is you're probably conceding a Senate seat since no other Dems are winning statewide there, and there was an old accusation of abuse in some divorce proceedings that were unsealed (though his ex-wife supports him now and denounced his opponent for trying to use that).

shosta · « **Reply #27638 on:** November 15, 2018, 11:29:17 PM »

Yeah, the case for him has always been strong, I just thought I remembered him signalling pretty strongly he was not interested in running for president, and in a believable way, not the way Gillibrand said it while having puff pieces about her written in the New Yorker. I wonder what Sanders does if Sherrod runs.

Anyway I checked to see who's leaking to politico and this Joaquin Castro guy is thinking about running? After failing to snag the VP spot? I feel like 2020 is going to be filled with all of these wet towel Dems who think just being anti-racist is enough to win over voters.

kingv · « **Reply #27639 on:** November 16, 2018, 12:31:19 AM »

I just wrote a long post about how Obama fucked Castro by making him his secretary, and then just realized there’s two of these fuckers and they are brothers.

I would vote for Sherrod Brown but IMO there is a really narrow path for a cishet white dude to win with the current dynamics of a democratic primary.

You basically have to either get the backing of the neoliberals or the Bernie liberals and ignite passion from some demographic group that transcends their base policy preferences.

Hillary locked up centrists and women and black people.

Obama Locked up progressives and black people.

The only path for Sherrod brown (or any white guy) in 2020, IMO would be some kind of trump like strategy where you have a strong loyal plurality in a lane you have to yourself in a really crowded field otherwise. I don’t think Sherrod brown has the cult of personality to pull that off.

I think Bernie has an outside shot at a strategy like that, but alsothink the superdelegates would work to prevent nominating him unless he won an outright majority.

Joe Biden might be able to put together a coalition that works with an Obama endorsement.

But the above dynamics make me think the most likely nominee is Kamala Harris. Black + woman + shrewd enough to st least play lip service to a lot of Bernie type of ideas. I do question her grandstanding though. Her line of questioning on Kavanaugh was really dumb. She tried to play it like she knew something but was bluffing.

Nola · « **Reply #27640 on:** November 16, 2018, 12:56:13 AM »

Idk, from a purely political standpoint, I’m not sure there is a better candidate on that list than Beto(I reserve the right to change this opinion).

Has that Obama/Trump Rorschach quality to him, appeals well to the base, makes moderates feel safe, has some of the best charisma of the bunch, recognizes the importance of mobilizing urban areas but loves to put effort into connecting with non-urban voters, seems to be inspiring people to want to come and work their ass off for him.

That has typically all been a successful recipe in the past for Democrats.

Maiden Voyage · « **Reply #27641 on:** November 16, 2018, 06:55:03 AM »

I would be willing to bet that Amy Klobuchar does not run.

agrajag · « **Reply #27642 on:** November 16, 2018, 07:23:40 AM »

Bet on Beto. He has that "it" factor to build a cult of personality around him. His speeches will go viral.

EightBitNate · « **Reply #27643 on:** November 16, 2018, 08:09:15 AM »

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez just retweeted Brianna Wu.

Oof

kingv · « **Reply #27644 on:** November 16, 2018, 08:31:23 AM »

If Beto has beat Ted Cruz i would say he was a shoe-in... but losing such a high profile race, I’m not as sure.

agrajag · « **Reply #27645 on:** November 16, 2018, 08:59:37 AM »

it's texas

kingv · « **Reply #27646 on:** November 16, 2018, 09:23:14 AM »

I get that, but I also just think it’s hard to lose your way into the Presidency.

He doesn’t have a particularly presidential resume otherwise as a relatively obscure Congressman.

kingv · « **Reply #27647 on:** November 16, 2018, 09:24:12 AM »

If he picks Mo Bama
Ha as his campaign song though... all bets are off.

agrajag · « **Reply #27648 on:** November 16, 2018, 09:42:35 AM »

Trump had a spectacular run of presidential campaign fails until he won. No one even remembered that shit.

Nintex · « **Reply #27649 on:** November 16, 2018, 01:07:12 PM »

Quote from: EightBitNate on November 16, 2018, 08:09:15 AM

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez just retweeted Brianna Wu.

Oof

Yikes

Nintex · « **Reply #27650 on:** November 16, 2018, 02:35:18 PM »

POTUS has handed out medals. It went exactly as expected

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://twitter.com/jackiekcalmes/status/1063503430965227521

https://twitter.com/jackiekcalmes/status/1063504392773611520

https://twitter.com/jackiekcalmes/status/1063506670435950592

[close]

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #27651 on:** November 16, 2018, 04:23:56 PM »

what a guy

curly · « **Reply #27652 on:** November 16, 2018, 04:32:33 PM »

Quote from: EightBitNate on November 16, 2018, 08:09:15 AM

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez just retweeted Brianna Wu.

Oof

thanks for the update breh

benjipwns · « **Reply #27653 on:** November 16, 2018, 06:53:42 PM »

Quote from: agrajag on November 16, 2018, 09:42:35 AM

Trump had a spectacular run of presidential campaign fails until he won. No one even remembered that shit.

he never actually ran though, the only time he actually even entered was the Reform primaries in 2000 and he dropped out before they were held

Lincoln was the last person to lose their way into the Presidency along the lines Beto would, short-term Representative who lost a Senate race, then two years later won his party's nomination for President (then won the Presidency despite not being on the ballot in half the states)

Quote from: shosta on November 15, 2018, 11:08:23 PM