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« Reply #28801 on: January 22, 2019, 10:34:54 PM »
I don’t get why people keep stabbing for the black Israelites so much on some “oh they say provocative things sometimes!”

Like being a grown ass man standing around calling a bunch of 15 year olds crackers is a smart and good thing to do.

By that standard trump says Provocative things sometimes, as does the Donald reddit, and q supporters.

Like it’s ok for none of these people to be worth defending.

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« Reply #28802 on: January 22, 2019, 11:00:39 PM »
Okay but do you denounce and reject them?

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« Reply #28803 on: January 22, 2019, 11:22:13 PM »
I don’t get why people keep stabbing for the black Israelites so much on some “oh they say provocative things sometimes!”

Like being a grown ass man standing around calling a bunch of 15 year olds crackers is a smart and good thing to do.

By that standard trump says Provocative things sometimes, as does the Donald reddit, and q supporters.

Like it’s ok for none of these people to be worth defending.

Eh, theyre like the LaRouche folks.

Equal opportunity assholes.

If you live in the city, theyre just another pigeon or plastic bag in your way
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« Reply #28804 on: January 23, 2019, 12:10:18 AM »
People who live in cities understand the black Israelites are an amusing joke at best, a tedious annoyance at worst.

But to someone who lives in a McMansion in a subdivision in exurban Cincinnati and attends a mediocre Catholic school, they’re the most frightening thing imaginable.


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« Reply #28807 on: January 23, 2019, 01:31:58 AM »
the black israelites are the real heroes in all this

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« Reply #28808 on: January 23, 2019, 02:44:26 AM »
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1087865000671236096

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1087834805348298752

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1087832114072932352

The guy in charge of thumbnails should be given a raise.  :lol

Anyway it seems that the Democrats are feeling the heat because some of them don't want to be 'weak' on border security.
While Republicans are feeling the heat because the government is still shutdown.

In general it seems like everyone is just working around Pelosi/Drumpf who are not budging and flinging shit at one another to come up with a compromise.
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« Reply #28809 on: January 23, 2019, 03:28:27 AM »
Unionizing. Paying interns $15 an hour. Ensuring time off. Institutionalizing salary transparency.

To staffers on presidential campaigns past, who were long accustomed to brutal hours and low pay, that was the stuff of liberal fantasies.

But this cycle, there is an intensifying conviction among progressive operatives that internal campaign culture should reflect the very values that 2020 Democratic hopefuls passionately tout on the trail.

“Every candidate should practice what they preach,” said Rebecca Katz, a veteran progressive strategist. “If they’re talking about the American Dream, they should provide it for their own staffers as well.”

“It’s hard to be going door-to-door, telling people you should vote for this candidate because they support a $15 minimum wage when you yourself are making less than that,” added Ihaab Syed, secretary of the Campaign Workers Guild, a union for campaign staffers. “It’s hard to go door-to-door, calling for Medicare for All, when you’re not being given health care.”

McClatchy contacted representatives for 12 Democrats who have declared or are considered likely to declare presidential campaigns and asked detailed questions about their approaches to internal campaign culture. The questions ranged from whether they would support a campaign unionization effort to whether they would commit to paying workers a minimum wage.

Only one already-declared presidential contender made a commitment: Julián Castro, the former Obama administration housing secretary and the ex-mayor of San Antonio, would support his staffers if they want to unionize and will pay a $15 minimum wage, a representative for his team told McClatchy.
I'm not being snarky, but I actually do wonder if some of these might actually run afoul of the often impossible to meet standards of campaign finance law.

Unionizing seems like the most obvious one to me as running into a thicket of issues, in fact, that actually seems like an epic way to knee cap an opposing campaign.

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« Reply #28810 on: January 23, 2019, 04:03:37 AM »
Sam Seder considering a bid for the Libertarian nomination: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPwAJhd_4AM&t=2h42m0s

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« Reply #28811 on: January 23, 2019, 04:33:49 AM »
posting Sam Seder clips is my schtick!

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« Reply #28812 on: January 23, 2019, 05:04:55 AM »
i am a journalist you can't criticize me

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« Reply #28813 on: January 23, 2019, 06:58:16 AM »
Unionizing. Paying interns $15 an hour. Ensuring time off. Institutionalizing salary transparency.

To staffers on presidential campaigns past, who were long accustomed to brutal hours and low pay, that was the stuff of liberal fantasies.

But this cycle, there is an intensifying conviction among progressive operatives that internal campaign culture should reflect the very values that 2020 Democratic hopefuls passionately tout on the trail.

“Every candidate should practice what they preach,” said Rebecca Katz, a veteran progressive strategist. “If they’re talking about the American Dream, they should provide it for their own staffers as well.”

“It’s hard to be going door-to-door, telling people you should vote for this candidate because they support a $15 minimum wage when you yourself are making less than that,” added Ihaab Syed, secretary of the Campaign Workers Guild, a union for campaign staffers. “It’s hard to go door-to-door, calling for Medicare for All, when you’re not being given health care.”

McClatchy contacted representatives for 12 Democrats who have declared or are considered likely to declare presidential campaigns and asked detailed questions about their approaches to internal campaign culture. The questions ranged from whether they would support a campaign unionization effort to whether they would commit to paying workers a minimum wage.

Only one already-declared presidential contender made a commitment: Julián Castro, the former Obama administration housing secretary and the ex-mayor of San Antonio, would support his staffers if they want to unionize and will pay a $15 minimum wage, a representative for his team told McClatchy.
I'm not being snarky, but I actually do wonder if some of these might actually run afoul of the often impossible to meet staendards of campaign finance law.

Unionizing seems like the most obvious one to me as running into a thicket of issues, in fact, that actually seems like an epic way to knee cap an opposing campaign.

What issues?  Seems more fraught for a Dem candidate to union bust than not to oppose unionization.
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« Reply #28814 on: January 23, 2019, 07:30:51 AM »
I didn’t realize Harris was Tamil. Gabbard will try to stab her at the first debate.

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« Reply #28815 on: January 23, 2019, 07:59:51 AM »
South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg is forming an exploratory committee to run for president, he announced Wednesday, making him the seventh Democrat to throw his hat in the ring to take on President Donald Trump in 2020.

In a video announcing his exploratory committee, Buttigieg framed his candidacy as offering a “new generation” of leadership and a “fresh start” for the country. At 37 years old, Buttigieg would be the first millennial president if he were elected.

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« Reply #28817 on: January 23, 2019, 08:32:11 AM »
Started my taxes last night. Looks like I’m going to be on the hook to send Uncle Sam $800 this year.

I knew this tax bill was going to fuck me.

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« Reply #28818 on: January 23, 2019, 08:49:10 AM »
South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg is forming an exploratory committee to run for president, he announced Wednesday, making him the seventh Democrat to throw his hat in the ring to take on President Donald Trump in 2020.

In a video announcing his exploratory committee, Buttigieg framed his candidacy as offering a “new generation” of leadership and a “fresh start” for the country. At 37 years old, Buttigieg would be the first millennial president if he were elected.

No one is going to elect president Butt Geek
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« Reply #28819 on: January 23, 2019, 09:39:11 AM »
They would, however, elect President Butt Chug  :noah
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« Reply #28820 on: January 23, 2019, 09:39:21 AM »
I feel like it should be an onion article. Is this dude delusional? South bend has like 100k people.

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« Reply #28821 on: January 23, 2019, 10:11:57 AM »
Started my taxes last night. Looks like I’m going to be on the hook to send Uncle Sam $800 this year.

I knew this tax bill was going to fuck me.

Another satisfied Trump voter
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« Reply #28822 on: January 23, 2019, 10:53:27 AM »
https://twitter.com/politico/status/1088048731671412736

BEAST MODE THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN HAS OWNED THE LIBS AGAIN
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« Reply #28823 on: January 23, 2019, 11:31:41 AM »
All polls but Rasmussen are fake.

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« Reply #28824 on: January 23, 2019, 11:40:05 AM »
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1088058134713823233

Not that it probably even needs to be said, since I assume for most people it is just the default, but factually speaking, Trump is wrong. If his wall actually did go against expert opinions and actually deter illegal immigration by a significant amount, per capita crime would rise, not fall.

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« Reply #28825 on: January 23, 2019, 11:59:29 AM »
I feel like it should be an onion article. Is this dude delusional? South bend has like 100k people.

Majority of people running for president aren't in any way thinking they'll win a nomination.

It's lucrative for them as an individual;  they almost always have a book to sell or some other ambition.

See: absolute crock of shit liar politicians like Ron Paul.

Didn’t Sleepy Ben Carson literally stop campaigning for a week during his bid so he can market his book lmao

Motherfucker didn’t even try to hide the hustle.
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« Reply #28826 on: January 23, 2019, 12:26:37 PM »





You're going to get tired of all the winning.

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« Reply #28827 on: January 23, 2019, 01:06:08 PM »


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« Reply #28828 on: January 23, 2019, 01:09:45 PM »
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« Reply #28829 on: January 23, 2019, 01:13:41 PM »

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They (most of the republicrats) all serve the same circles of highly connected corporations while ACTING left or right. Due to their own extreme levels of immorality; They have no shame when they lie. They both hate Trump because he doesn't play along with them in the exact way they want him to. Though he's no moral compass by any stretch, he does things that interrupts the smoothness of their collusions and crimes. It's a mutual back scratching club where corporations gain wealth & power through consolidations and guaranteed government contracts while their puppets in government protect them and expand their own size & authority. This kind of America should and soon will dissolve. It's an empire and those always fall.
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« Reply #28830 on: January 23, 2019, 01:19:08 PM »
not crazy about this blackpill filler gimmick tbh

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« Reply #28831 on: January 23, 2019, 02:04:12 PM »
filler blacked  :-[
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« Reply #28832 on: January 23, 2019, 02:15:06 PM »
Dave is in for one hell of a surprise.
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« Reply #28833 on: January 23, 2019, 02:21:25 PM »
https://twitter.com/NickBaumann/status/1088147069364260864

Welp that's a campaign ender right there.


https://twitter.com/business/status/1088153775758544897
We ain't hearing from Cohen anytime soon.
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« Reply #28835 on: January 23, 2019, 03:25:12 PM »
so he'll just host it in the senate instead and no one will notice the difference? :doge

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« Reply #28836 on: January 23, 2019, 03:26:41 PM »
No he send Pelosi a long form tweet stating: "I'll show up anyway"

https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1088124637844828162
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« Reply #28837 on: January 23, 2019, 03:30:03 PM »
so he'll just host it in the senate instead and no one will notice the difference? :doge

That seems like the obvious solution for him, but like a lot of commentators seem to think, I don't think Trump grasps that the House is a co-equal branch of government and that his authority doesn't override the House's unless the power explicitly granted.

So there is almost certainly some ego and ignorance at work here.

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« Reply #28838 on: January 23, 2019, 03:30:12 PM »
so he'll just host it in the senate instead and no one will notice the difference? :doge

Nah, people will definitely notice if he's slumming it in the Senate after he specifically said he was going to have it in the House and then Pelosi told him to get fucked.
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« Reply #28839 on: January 23, 2019, 03:33:18 PM »
I would say the odds of Trump just traveling there and having a stand off with Pelosi in front of the door are high.

Even if she manages to keep him out he'll do the speech on his favorite spot. Blurting below whirring Helicopter blades.
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« Reply #28840 on: January 23, 2019, 03:35:07 PM »
A lot of Trump people seem to think he'd get a big boost from the SOTU.

He already gave a televised speech that was carried live by all the networks and his ratings only went down.

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« Reply #28841 on: January 23, 2019, 03:39:00 PM »
A lot of Trump people seem to think he'd get a big boost from the SOTU.

He already gave a televised speech that was carried live by all the networks and his ratings only went down.
Don't forget he also did another speech (though not carried by all networks) and no one cared.
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« Reply #28842 on: January 23, 2019, 03:45:01 PM »
A lot of Trump people seem to think he'd get a big boost from the SOTU.

He already gave a televised speech that was carried live by all the networks and his ratings only went down.

Do you know what an integer overflow is?
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« Reply #28843 on: January 23, 2019, 04:01:38 PM »
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Trump says Nancy canceled the SOTU
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1088179407477366784
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« Reply #28844 on: January 23, 2019, 04:02:39 PM »
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« Reply #28845 on: January 23, 2019, 04:19:35 PM »
Honestly, I am already working through my head how this move against Trump will undoubtedly be used in a totally disingenuous manner by some future Republican congress toward some future Democratic president to rationalize the justification for why they are denying the president a platform for the State of The Union because of some Benghazi/birther/email-gate style bullshit placating to their base. All the while the collective Washington editorial establishment will come out talking about "both sides" and drumming it up with a bunch of ridiculous moral equivalencies.

It seems to just be the cycle of things these days.

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« Reply #28846 on: January 23, 2019, 04:41:03 PM »
Imagine being 1 of the unpaid 800k federal workers and then discovering that all the GOP and the VP did during their S H U T D O W N meetings was to get Trump to sign up to a staged coup in Venezuela.
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« Reply #28847 on: January 23, 2019, 04:55:50 PM »
And likely a failed staged coup.
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« Reply #28848 on: January 23, 2019, 04:59:45 PM »
I thought Facebook cracked down on fake news

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« Reply #28849 on: January 23, 2019, 05:30:02 PM »
Alternatively, it doesn't matter if this president, or any president, is given an allotted time to conduct a ceremonial speech in the presence of Congress.

I should of added that the balcony of political nihilists and deep-thinking lefties that love to bring up Obama drone strikes or other such objectivity/superiority signaling will find a way to jump in and be dismissive of escalating trends no matter what ;)

But really, my point was less about the pageantry than the trend of our discourse - mostly through various beltway outlets - that seems to bend over backwards to normalize and equivocate Republican fuckery.

SEE: The Washington Post editorial board "both sides-ing" this shutdown and faulting Democrats for not giving into Republican extortion.
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« Reply #28850 on: January 23, 2019, 05:45:38 PM »
Mulvaney wants to start cutting programs as the shut down drags on.
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1088188637714571277

https://twitter.com/DanaBashCNN/status/1088193282826559488

The Qanons and 4D chess players also have their take (obviously).
Apparently if the government is closed for more than 30 days it is possible to fire government workers temporaily furloughed.
A "Reduction in Force" or RIF to drain the swamp (of course).
 
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« Reply #28851 on: January 23, 2019, 05:51:54 PM »
Mulvaney wants to start cutting programs as the shut down drags on.
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1088188637714571277

https://twitter.com/DanaBashCNN/status/1088193282826559488

The Qanons and 4D chess players also have their take (obviously).
Apparently if the government is closed for more than 30 days it is possible to fire government workers temporaily furloughed.
A "Reduction in Force" or RIF to drain the swamp (of course).

Is that as real and binding as the five minute rule when the teacher/professor doesn't show up for class?

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« Reply #28852 on: January 23, 2019, 06:05:10 PM »
That's 15 minutes, not five.

(And it's a myth, of course.)
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« Reply #28853 on: January 23, 2019, 06:18:05 PM »
I am a professor and I arrive to my class after 17 minutes to ensure that I teach only the most dedicated students.
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« Reply #28854 on: January 23, 2019, 08:03:32 PM »
Honestly, I am already working through my head how this move against Trump will undoubtedly be used in a totally disingenuous manner by some future Republican congress toward some future Democratic president to rationalize the justification for why they are denying the president a platform for the State of The Union because of some Benghazi/birther/email-gate style bullshit placating to their base. All the while the collective Washington editorial establishment will come out talking about "both sides" and drumming it up with a bunch of ridiculous moral equivalencies.

It seems to just be the cycle of things these days.

Back to written messages! And the shorter the better!

"The State of the Union is alright, some good, some bad, the latter is my opponents fault, I'm the best. God Bless America."

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« Reply #28855 on: January 23, 2019, 08:29:38 PM »
wait, I just realized the obvious, Trump should just tweet the State of the Union message

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« Reply #28856 on: January 23, 2019, 08:31:26 PM »
@America, Ladies and Genteleman of the United States, the State of our Union is strong #SOTU #MAGA #BUILDTHEWALL 1/256,728

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« Reply #28857 on: January 23, 2019, 08:31:48 PM »
why can't he just do another televised address from the oval office 

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« Reply #28858 on: January 23, 2019, 08:35:48 PM »
first prize goes to the first Congressperson to tweet back: @realDonaldTrump *applause* #SOTU
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« Reply #28859 on: January 23, 2019, 08:48:46 PM »
throwback: @realDonaldTrump YOU LIE! #SOTU