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[benjipwns]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/05/26/us/politics/trump-tweets-democrats.html

The Insults Trump Has Hurled at 2020 Democrats

finally, some useful journalism from the new york slimes

[Nintex]

“Are you having a good time, Joe?”
 “I said, 'General, come here. Give me a kiss.' I felt like Joe Biden.”

LMAO

[Tasty]

What’s behind Elizabeth Warren’s comeback in the polls

Morning Consult has found that Warren voters choose Sanders over Biden as their second choice in the primary. Sanders voters actually break solidly for Biden — which might suggest name recognition rather than ideology is a factor in his support — but a solid minority do split for Warren.

Fucking berniebros.

[TakingBackSunday]

“Are you having a good time, Joe?”
 “I said, 'General, come here. Give me a kiss.' I felt like Joe Biden.”

LMAO

Could you just stop?  Nothing the dude does is funny. 

[curly]

Trump is a great comic character, too bad he's the president

[agrajag]

get triggered by Trump and Nintex brehs

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1132748515732537349

 

[agrajag]

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1132848411407814656

 

[Mollys Fruity Loops]

Could you just stop?  Nothing the dude does is funny.

I agree.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1133117805002276864

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1133119875272994816

  beast

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1131546860580147201

[Occam]

That's totally not how someone suffering from dementia talks, no sir.

[team filler]

[Nintex]

Who wrote all this text.

Which ResetEra member is this

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/06/03/can-beto-bounce-back

[team filler]

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1133117805002276864

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1133119875272994816

  beast

[benjipwns]

I think Diamond and Silk issued him a n-word pass for that.

[benjipwns]

[Joe Molotov]

I think Diamond and Silk issued him a n-word pass for that.

It is pretty impressive that he’s been tweeting since 1989.

[benjipwns]

on the one hand: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/27/opinion/trumps-formidable-2020-tailwind.html

Steven Rattner, "car czar" and counselor to the Treasury secretary in the Obama administration, cites three different modelers in his N.Y. Times commentary, "Trump’s Formidable 2020 Tailwind."

The big picture: Trump wins all three modelers. Economists predict that the tailwind is large.

Ray Fair, a professor at Yale, "found that the growth rates of gross domestic product and inflation have been the two most important economic predictors — but he also found that incumbency was also an important determinant of presidential election outcomes."
"Mark Zandi, the chief economist at Moody’s Analytics, has looked at 12 models, and Mr. Trump wins in all of them."
"Donald Luskin of Trend Macrolytics has reached the same conclusion in his examination of the Electoral College."

on the other hand: https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/05/25/scott-adams-president-trump-has-no-chance-of-re-election-due-to-the-masters-of-the-universe/

Author Scott Adams stated in a recent video that President Donald Trump has “no chance of re-election” due to the power of the social media Masters of the Universe to shut down conservatives.
Author and media personality Scott Adams stated in a recent video that he believes that President Trump’s chances of winning the 2020 selection cycle have been significantly lowered due to the power that social media has over public discourse. In a YouTube video titled “Episode 540 Scott Adams: Slaughtermeter Reset to Zero Due to Social Media Manipulation, Pelosi,” Adams discusses how Silicon Valley tech firms manipulate online discourse and how this can affect real-world elections, citing a recent incident surrounding a video of Nancy Pelosi as an example of this.



Adams begins the video stating: “You all know that I’ve been talking about what I call the slaughter meter. The slaughter meter is a measure of how the election will go and whether President Trump will win by a small slaughter or a large slaughter, and I update it based on current events so it’s not really a prediction it’s more like a moment in time in which the current conditions — if they were to continue until the end — would give you that result.”

He continues: “But of course, things always change so it’s not a prediction it’s just sort of a ‘if nothing changed this is where you’d end up.’ I have downgraded the slaughter meter from one hundred and forty percent where I said to myself the competition for the presidency is so weak that I couldn’t imagine any situation other than Trump dominating the election. I’ve reset that to zero so at my current thinking is that the president has no chance of reelection. Now remember the slaughter meter is if nothing changes, but of course, things will change so you don’t have to worry that this necessarily will be the condition on Election Day but the current situation would give him no chance.”

[benjipwns]

the Navy also operates on fresh water

[team filler]

[Tripon]

The Fresno Grizzlies are learning an old lesson the hard way: you can’t trust the internet.

Between games of a Memorial Day doubleheader, the Grizzlies aired what was supposed to be a moving tribute to fallen soldiers, a speech by the late President Ronald Reagan on sacrifice and courage in the name of duty. But as Reagan’s voice mentioned “enemies of freedom,” the video tucked present-day figures, including U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) between images of North Korea’s Kim Jong-Un and the late Fidel Castro of Cuba.

Obviously, the video — which you can watch here — wasn’t patriotic but a not-particularly-subtle bit of propaganda, one completely at odds with the concept of “moral courage” that Reagan spoke of earlier in the speech. The Grizzlies employee responsible for airing the video apparently didn’t watch it all the way through, according to the team.

The Grizzlies offered up an apology shortly after the incident, expressing regret for the “misleading and offensive editing, which made a statement that was not our intent and certainly not our opinion.”

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/fresno-grizzlies-apologize-to-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-for-offensive-tribute-video-131328486.html

 

[ToxicAdam]

I still can't (and won't) believe the likely candidates for 2020 are Trump, Biden and Sanders.

Jesus fuck, how did we get to a place where all the candidates are older than McCain was in 2008?

[nachobro]

(Image removed from quote.)

working hard to make anime real, god bless

[Brehvolution]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/05/27/nazi-sympathizer-pleaded-guilty-defacing-synagogue-his-lawyer-says-conservatives-helped-radicalize-him/?utm_term=.c2ee455debd7

Ansell argued that Brewer’s radicalization was heavily influenced by what his wife, who was 17 at the time of the crime, had been reading online. “According to Nolan, she began with rightwing yet mainstream views such as those presented on Fox News,” Ansell’s sentencing memo said. “She then moved on to writings by Ben Shapiro and articles on Breitbart News which bridged the gap to the notorious white supremacist and anti-Semitic propaganda site Stormfront.”

Nolan Brewer “bought into the propaganda,” Ansell wrote.

How Trumpian, it was the girlfiend's fault.

[Nintex]

on the one hand: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/27/opinion/trumps-formidable-2020-tailwind.html

Steven Rattner, "car czar" and counselor to the Treasury secretary in the Obama administration, cites three different modelers in his N.Y. Times commentary, "Trump’s Formidable 2020 Tailwind."

The big picture: Trump wins all three modelers. Economists predict that the tailwind is large.

Ray Fair, a professor at Yale, "found that the growth rates of gross domestic product and inflation have been the two most important economic predictors — but he also found that incumbency was also an important determinant of presidential election outcomes."
"Mark Zandi, the chief economist at Moody’s Analytics, has looked at 12 models, and Mr. Trump wins in all of them."
"Donald Luskin of Trend Macrolytics has reached the same conclusion in his examination of the Electoral College."

on the other hand: https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/05/25/scott-adams-president-trump-has-no-chance-of-re-election-due-to-the-masters-of-the-universe/

Author Scott Adams stated in a recent video that President Donald Trump has “no chance of re-election” due to the power of the social media Masters of the Universe to shut down conservatives.
Author and media personality Scott Adams stated in a recent video that he believes that President Trump’s chances of winning the 2020 selection cycle have been significantly lowered due to the power that social media has over public discourse. In a YouTube video titled “Episode 540 Scott Adams: Slaughtermeter Reset to Zero Due to Social Media Manipulation, Pelosi,” Adams discusses how Silicon Valley tech firms manipulate online discourse and how this can affect real-world elections, citing a recent incident surrounding a video of Nancy Pelosi as an example of this.



Adams begins the video stating: “You all know that I’ve been talking about what I call the slaughter meter. The slaughter meter is a measure of how the election will go and whether President Trump will win by a small slaughter or a large slaughter, and I update it based on current events so it’s not really a prediction it’s more like a moment in time in which the current conditions — if they were to continue until the end — would give you that result.”

He continues: “But of course, things always change so it’s not a prediction it’s just sort of a ‘if nothing changed this is where you’d end up.’ I have downgraded the slaughter meter from one hundred and forty percent where I said to myself the competition for the presidency is so weak that I couldn’t imagine any situation other than Trump dominating the election. I’ve reset that to zero so at my current thinking is that the president has no chance of reelection. Now remember the slaughter meter is if nothing changes, but of course, things will change so you don’t have to worry that this necessarily will be the condition on Election Day but the current situation would give him no chance.”

The economists are forgetting about the lunacy of a Trump campaign being the hardest thing to beat.
By the time Biden has announced his first policy proposal Trump is already at a nuclear stand off with the vatican or in the process of leaving NATO.

Maybe they will fake an alien invasion and postpone the election. There's no telling what might happen between now and November 2020 that tips the scales.

[Mandark]

The economists are forgetting about the lunacy of a Trump campaign being the hardest thing to beat.

the economists are predicting he'll win

[Nintex]

The economists are forgetting about the lunacy of a Trump campaign being the hardest thing to beat.

the economists are predicting he'll win

Yes, but based on their 'models'.

Breh, your model ain't going to survive a Trump campaign.
He could end up with all states or 0 states.

[Dickie Dee]

It'd be interesting look at how approval rating normally correlates with those predictors in similar models - and it how Trumps #'s actually compare

[Trent Dole]

Joe Biden - Nobody Cares
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/28/biden-energy-crisis-1345359

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1133492876296511491

 

[Tripon]

 

[Tripon]

Former Vice President Joe Biden revealed his plan for education on Tuesday, focusing on increased access to education and boosting teacher salaries.

The big picture: The plan aims to raise the salaries of those who teach at low-income schools by increasing funding for Title I. Biden also emphasizes ensuring every child has equal access to education regardless of their race or socio-economic status. He joins other 2020 candidates who have released sweeping education policies — including Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.)

Why it matters: Biden shared his plan from Houston, Texas while meeting with American Federation of Teachers, a national teachers' union, in hopes of securing a coveted endorsement, per Politico.

Key Details:

• Triple funding for Title I to increase the salaries of teachers at low-income schools, and close the $23 billion funding gap between white and non-white schools.
  
  Compensate teachers for the extra work they do outside of the classroom, such as mentoring or coaching.
  
  The Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program would be revised to better help teachers with their own student loans.
  
  Double school psychologists, guidance counselors, nurses, social workers and other health-care professionals.
  
  Pass infrastructure legislation to remodel schools.
  
  Combat school shootings by banning assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.
  Improve teacher diversity and increase funding to help schools in low-income communities train students for the future.
  
  He wants to reinstate an Obama-era policy that ensure schools are continually working to desegregate.
  
  Fully fund extra cost of special education required by the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act.
  
  Increase vocational and technical training at schools.
  
  Offer pre-K for 3- and 4-year-olds, increase access to early development professionals and expand home visiting from specialists

https://www.axios.com/biden-2020-education-policy-2d585fe2-1e22-43e4-9784-b7785d1e44aa.html

[Tripon]

I still can't (and won't) believe the likely candidates for 2020 are Trump, Biden and Sanders.

Jesus fuck, how did we get to a place where all the candidates are older than McCain was in 2008?

gen x was kind of a dud

Obama was okay.

[Nola]

Bob Mueller: He did that shit, read the fuckin report and leave me the fuck alone

https://twitter.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1133751970320175105

My response though, this is the Trump age, where the country and media have debilitating short-term memory issues, and the GOP has no moral backbone left, you need to nut up and show up to Congress to reiterate these points if you want your work to mean anything, sorry.

[james]

Mueller is a cluck.

Instead of being a Chad and walking into the oval office with a rifle and handcuffs, he wants to sit on the side and let others do the job

[agrajag]

Nancy ban Donald Trump, do it you coward!

[Nola]

Mueller is a giant dad.

Instead of being a Chad and walking into the oval office with a rifle and handcuffs, he wants to sit on the side and let others do the job

He clearly is out of touch with how political justice gets traction today, but he couldn't have been more clear in his report what he reiterated today.

The entire second section is essentially a charging document outlining ten cases of obstruction, accompanied by him making it as clear as possible without stepping over perceived boundaries that they think he is guilty of these crimes.

[james]

Nancy: I agree we should impeach. But do the voters? I declare that 2020 is a referendum on impeachment. Vote D to impeach, vote R to not impeach.

[james]

So I looked up the Democrat candidate for the primary election next week.

Surprise surprise, the progressive running against the incumbents doesnt even have a fucking website.

[benjipwns]

https://www.apnews.com/ec81a4bb277a46ab99bdd4502f4c7315

The Democratic National Committee is upping the ante for its second round of presidential primary debates, doubling the polling and grassroots fundraising requirements from its initial summer debates.

The parameters, announced Wednesday, are likely to help cull a crop of 24 candidates and, in the process, intensify scrutiny on Democratic Chairman Tom Perez and his pledge to give all candidates a chance to be heard .

The DNC’s outline for its September debate — the third of at least a dozen promised matchups during the 2020 nominating fight — decrees that candidates can participate only by reaching 2% in four approved polls released between June 28 and Aug. 28 while also collecting contributions from a minimum of 130,000 unique donors before Aug. 28. That donor list must include a minimum of 400 individuals in at least 20 states. The qualifications would remain the same for an October debate, though the party hasn’t set the deadline for measuring fundraising and polling.

In its announcement, the party states that the second September night would be held only if necessary.

DNC officials were prepared for potential criticism, releasing a statement from ActBlue Executive Director Erin Hill ahead of Wednesday’s announcement.

“Candidates who will be prepared to take on Trump in the general should already be working to build programs that can bring in 130,000 donors by the second round of debates,” Hill said.

Besides the increased thresholds, it’s significant that candidates must meet both the polling and fundraising marks in the next round. For the first two sessions, a candidate can qualify by meeting one or the other.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

That hill guys sure really cares about beating trump and not *checks notes* getting donors to donate through Actblue.

[Nintex]

So I looked up the Democrat candidate for the primary election next week.

Surprise surprise, the progressive running against the incumbents doesnt even have a fucking website.

The progressive Democrats are basically the 'other' candidates they used to have in former Eastern European countries to create the illusion of an election.
But they have forgotten that is their role in this play.

[james]

So I looked up the Democrat candidate for the primary election next week.

Surprise surprise, the progressive running against the incumbents doesnt even have a fucking website.

The progressive Democrats are basically the 'other' candidates they used to have in former Eastern European countries to create the illusion of an election.
But they have forgotten that is their role in this play.

I swear to god the 2015 progressive candidate didnt even exist. They were a ghost. No website, no interviews, no facebook page, nothing.

[benjipwns]

That hill guys sure really cares about beating trump and not *checks notes* getting donors to donate through Actblue.

At some point we're definitely going to see fundraising pushes targeting people to try and get them to donate to "second and third" choices. The polling standards are so low that they'll avoid it for the first set of debates.

I bet the DNC walks back that "have to meet both criteria" thing on this second set of debates, fall is still too soon to cut from 20 candidates to like eight since there's no point to actually dropping out until after Iowa/NH.

[james]

We're going to hit 25,000 again

Groundhog day

[ToxicAdam]

I still can't (and won't) believe the likely candidates for 2020 are Trump, Biden and Sanders.

Jesus fuck, how did we get to a place where all the candidates are older than McCain was in 2008?

gen x was kind of a dud

Christ, I didn't think about it until now, but Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz is our legacy so far.


Obama technically counts, but's it's hard to think of someone that was 30 in 1991 as being of that generation.

[james]

This is why we need a mandatory retirement age for people.

You hit 72, you go to the big farm in the sky.

[james]

Does anyone have a map of counties that voted Trump compared to counties hit by tornados in last week?

Because I think Mr Weather God is trying to say something

[benjipwns]

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nidhiprakash/democratic-presidential-debates-dnc-rules

New rules to qualify for the Democratic debates this fall are frustrating operatives and activists who see the criteria as an arbitrary and overly restrictive shift that could dramatically winnow the presidential field months before voting begins, pose an unfair limit to women and candidates of color, and force campaigns to spend more time wooing donors than talking to voters.

The DNC announced the format for the Sept. 12 debate — which could be split into debates held on two consecutive nights if the field of qualifying candidates is large enough — at 6 a.m. in a press release. Operatives for multiple campaigns said on Wednesday that the DNC gave them no notice in advance. An adviser to one campaign told BuzzFeed News they heard about the requirements through an article published by Politico before they heard from the DNC.

The summer debates are expected to include as many as 20 candidates over two nights, with multiple women and people of color. The new move means that the most diverse field of Democratic candidates ever could be vastly less diverse by the end of the year — especially because the two white men who have been dominating the polls so far, Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, came into the race with already high profiles and solid donor bases.

“White men have led in the polls, in the donors, and in the press,” said Jess Morales Rocketto, a Democratic operative and political director of the National Domestic Workers Alliance. “Women and people of color will not make it to the main stage for debate,” she added, saying she’s concerned the requirements will force campaigns to spend money chasing donors instead of on organizers on the ground.

“We’re talking about a donor base not being activated outside of, really, predominantly white men,” said a senior adviser to Julián Castro’s campaign. “I think it requires a lot of creativity about how we activate a donor class that hasn’t been reached yet, and that is a challenge over the course of the summer, because there is a finite number of donors. There may not be 130,000 different donors outside of [those giving to] the people who already have campaign infrastructure.”

“One thing people are really missing in this conversation is that there is not an unlimited pool of donors,” said Morales Rocketto. “At best, you’re talking about all Democratic primary voters. But we are over 6 months away from the first voters voting so you’re actually talking about a much smaller pool than that.”

Former member of Congress John Delaney, who has been polling at about 1% or below, wrote a letter to Perez on Wednesday to ask how the party came to its decision to increase the fall limits and whom they consulted in that process.

“Are you prioritizing certain candidates — or attributes of certain candidates — in formulation of the criteria,” Delaney wrote in a series of six questions to Perez. “Please disclose your rationale as to why the number of donors is a better standard than polling or other standards.”

A Delaney spokesperson said the campaign had not heard back from the DNC as of Wednesday afternoon.

For james:

Earlier this month, in an interview with CNN, Kirsten Gillibrand described the 65,000-donor threshold for the first debate as “an odd measurable.”

Gillibrand, in her 10th year as a US senator from New York, has yet to say she’s hit the benchmark.

“Like, why do you make that your measurable as opposed to have you won elections before and have you ever run statewide before and how many votes have you gotten before and have you passed legislation and are you effective in your job?” Gillibrand asked.

[james]

Go fuck your upstate cousin bumpkins Gillibitch

[Nintex]

I wonder how the Democrats will sabotage themselves

A) Agressively attack candidate Bernie for being too much of a leftie and throwing their support behind a third party candidate like Howard Schultz instead
B) Nominate a woman (perhaps of color) to play the diversity card even if she's not the most popular candidate outside of their batshit base
C) Not vote for Joe Biden because he's a straight white male
D) Hllary Clinton

[Tripon]

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The Democratic National Committee’s stricter new requirements for presidential contenders to appear in party debates this fall triggered swift backlash Wednesday from Democratic candidates, many of whom are now in danger of being cut from the showcase events in September and October.

Some campaigns have already been struggling to reach the 65,000-donor threshold — or secured one percent in three qualified polls — to gain access to the first debates in June and July. But the DNC’s new criteria for the next round of debates — support from 130,000 unique donors as well as at least 2 percent support in four polls — is set to winnow out senators, governors and a number of other Democratic candidates who are not on a trajectory to hit the polling requirement and could have particular trouble hitting the donor requirement absent a viral moment or another future campaign-shaking event.

“The DNC is playing a gatekeeping function and they’re creating a filter to determine which candidates can make their arguments to the American people,” former Rep. John Delaney, who is largely self-funding his presidential campaign, said in an interview with POLITICO after sending a letter to the DNC to request more information on how the requirements were set. “A lot of very consequential rules are being created by the DNC, and we don’t know what goes into them.”

The rules are also reshuffling spending priorities among less-prominent candidates, some of whom have shifted plans to hire organizers based in Iowa or New Hampshire in order to pour money into donation-generating digital advertising.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/29/dnc-democratic-presidential-debates-1347273

The DNC must be tired of having so many candidates.

[benjipwns]

I'm pretty sure the President can rename ships through the Sea Czar, he should rename it to the U.S.S. Uncaptured.

edit: oh, it's actually named after his grandfather and then father and then the Senator as well

It also seems to be appropriately named:

The destroyer was involved in a collision with the merchant ship Alnic MC on 21 August 2017 off the coast of Singapore

[james]

I can see him calling it the uss Hillary Clinton and then order it sunk to build an oyster reef

[Mandark]

[obligatory snark about safe spaces/tigger warnings]

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/chinfo/status/1133918353490403329

LMAO
https://twitter.com/chinfo/status/1133950652185530368

 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1134116464426921985

Trump responds by saying he didn't know about it then trashes McCain.