Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 7072634 times)

benjipwns · « **Reply #37020 on:** July 09, 2019, 09:08:15 PM »

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David R. Barker of the University of Iowa stated that the acquisition of the Virgin Islands "is the clearest example of a negative net present value purchase" among US territorial acquisitions. "Expenses are high, and net revenues have been non-existent", he wrote; because of the Naval Appropriations Act For 1922, all tax revenue goes to the local government

we should sue Denmark

TVC15 · « **Reply #37021 on:** July 09, 2019, 10:30:10 PM »

I can’t tell if that’s real or fake.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #37022 on:** July 09, 2019, 10:32:35 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on July 09, 2019, 10:30:10 PM

I can’t tell if that’s real or fake.

In my heart, it's real.

benjipwns · « **Reply #37023 on:** July 09, 2019, 10:38:33 PM »

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BurnerAcctNo1
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Literally lost friends 2 years ago for mentioning Russian involvement in gamergate.

Mandark · « **Reply #37024 on:** July 09, 2019, 10:42:12 PM »

Even if you try to split "Seth Rich was the leaker" away from the spicier "Seth Rich was killed for leaking" theory to feel more respectable, both Fox News and the Washington Times retracted stories they ran on the first premise.

Quote from: Yahoo News

But “Conspiracyland” quotes a source familiar with the network’s investigation saying that Fox executives grew frustrated they were unable to determine the identity of the other, and more important, source for the story: an anonymous “federal investigator” whose agency was never revealed. The Fox editors came to have doubts that the person was in fact who he claimed to be or whether the person actually existed, said the source.

Pretty sure Malia Zimmerman's still working for Fox News.

benjipwns · « **Reply #37025 on:** July 09, 2019, 10:51:43 PM »

I still can't believe Obama's daughter married George Zimmerman and became a Fox News reporter.

team filler · « **Reply #37026 on:** July 09, 2019, 11:18:41 PM »

bluemax · « **Reply #37027 on:** July 09, 2019, 11:52:52 PM »

https://twitter.com/SoulBlossom_Wen/status/1148737452963745800

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #37028 on:** July 09, 2019, 11:59:47 PM »

Quote from: shosta on July 09, 2019, 10:51:22 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on July 09, 2019, 10:30:10 PM
I can’t tell if that’s real or fake.
Quote from: Great Rumbler on July 09, 2019, 10:32:35 PM
In my heart, it's real.
It's real, baby.

lol, he really went full reeeeeeeee

team filler · « **Reply #37029 on:** July 10, 2019, 12:42:30 AM »

Tripon · « **Reply #37030 on:** July 10, 2019, 01:49:32 AM »

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1148753743057432577

Tripon · « **Reply #37031 on:** July 10, 2019, 01:53:23 AM »

Is the Yang Gang a cult?

https://twitter.com/N_Rolo24/status/1148738589125238790

Kara · « **Reply #37032 on:** July 10, 2019, 02:28:23 AM »

In all the intensifying of Kulturkampf it still blows my mind that there's a liberal-ish media network called The Young Turks and that's not really controversial at all except in the local Armenian diaspora.

agrajag · « **Reply #37033 on:** July 10, 2019, 02:51:20 AM »

https://twitter.com/MorningBluberry/status/1148769796521103360

VomKriege · « **Reply #37034 on:** July 10, 2019, 03:28:42 AM »

Quote from: Kara on July 10, 2019, 02:28:23 AM

In all the intensifying of Kulturkampf it still blows my mind that there's a liberal-ish media network called The Young Turks and that's not really controversial at all except in the local Armenian diaspora.

...And ResetERA.

naff · « **Reply #37035 on:** July 10, 2019, 03:44:35 AM »

Quote from: shosta on July 10, 2019, 02:40:48 AM

Quote from: Human Snorenado on July 09, 2019, 11:59:47 PM
lol, he really went full reeeeeeeee
And yet no likes for my original research. Curious.

would've liked if linked

otherwise i'll chalk it up to fake news

agrajag · « **Reply #37036 on:** July 10, 2019, 04:29:53 AM »

https://twitter.com/adrielhampton/status/1148678423323140096

Trent Dole · « **Reply #37037 on:** July 10, 2019, 05:37:14 AM »

Quote from: Tripon on July 10, 2019, 01:53:23 AM

Is the Yang Gang a cult?

https://twitter.com/N_Rolo24/status/1148738589125238790

I still can't believe friggin TYT interviewed this fuggin guy.

agrajag · « **Reply #37038 on:** July 10, 2019, 08:00:31 AM »

https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1148923130775257089

Crash Dummy · « **Reply #37039 on:** July 10, 2019, 08:09:31 AM »

"Marxist Jihadi" sounds rad as fuck

kingv · « **Reply #37040 on:** July 10, 2019, 09:11:35 AM »

Medicare for Allah!

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #37041 on:** July 10, 2019, 09:18:36 AM »

Quote from: Human Snorenado on July 09, 2019, 11:59:47 PM

Quote from: shosta on July 09, 2019, 10:51:22 PM
Quote from: TVC 15 on July 09, 2019, 10:30:10 PM
I can’t tell if that’s real or fake.
Quote from: Great Rumbler on July 09, 2019, 10:32:35 PM
In my heart, it's real.
It's real, baby.
lol, he really went full reeeeeeeee

Let's be honest, he was like this long before Resetera ever existed.

agrajag · « **Reply #37042 on:** July 10, 2019, 09:24:01 AM »

I'll stick with Mitch then

Crash Dummy · « **Reply #37043 on:** July 10, 2019, 11:23:22 AM »

https://twitter.com/UweBollocks/status/1148712933561708544

VomKriege · « **Reply #37044 on:** July 10, 2019, 11:42:52 AM »

I went to Infowars and the article opens with :

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No, he didn’t drink right from the toilet, like Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) alleged illegals were doing, but from the attached sink unit that provides clean, drinkable water common in the facilities.

Not even from the toilet, not that it proved anything.

kingv · « **Reply #37045 on:** July 10, 2019, 01:23:26 PM »

Imo this is actually his least stupid policy idea.

I think it’s a terrible move politically, as Americans tend to like a strong dollar inexplicably, but it’s a good move for the economy.... at least in terms of trying to lessen the trade deficit.

EightBitNate · « **Reply #37046 on:** July 10, 2019, 01:26:20 PM »

Quote from: Esch on July 10, 2019, 01:23:06 PM

https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1148761751414087680

filler, come get yr boi

Imagine how good it’d feel to punch Tucker Carlson in the face

Nintex · « **Reply #37047 on:** July 10, 2019, 01:36:46 PM »

Tucker prevented WW3.

What have you done for society?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #37048 on:** July 10, 2019, 01:44:24 PM »

It would probably just ooze around your fist.

curly · « **Reply #37049 on:** July 10, 2019, 01:56:25 PM »

If you have complaints, take them to Maureen Dowd like a real professional does

VomKriege · « **Reply #37050 on:** July 10, 2019, 02:02:11 PM »

Quote from: curly on July 10, 2019, 01:56:25 PM

If you have complaints, take them to Maureen Dowd like a real professional does

And eat one of her potato, that's how real politicians establish dominance.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #37051 on:** July 10, 2019, 02:03:41 PM »

Bring your complaints to the HBIC, you little piss ants, you won't.

Kara · « **Reply #37052 on:** July 10, 2019, 02:03:48 PM »

Quote from: Esch on July 10, 2019, 09:17:07 AM

https://twitter.com/Morning_Joe/status/1148550104560930822

So her platform is "You voted for Trump but Mitch is stopping his platform. Vote for me to make Trump's platform happen." and she's a Democratic candidate.

Nintex · « **Reply #37053 on:** July 10, 2019, 02:23:17 PM »

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1148995794613280769

LMAO

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #37054 on:** July 10, 2019, 02:33:39 PM »

Quote from: Kara on July 10, 2019, 02:03:48 PM

Quote from: Esch on July 10, 2019, 09:17:07 AM

https://twitter.com/Morning_Joe/status/1148550104560930822

So her platform is "You voted for Trump but Mitch is stopping his platform. Vote for me to make Trump's platform happen." and she's a Democratic candidate.

Well, she is trying to unseat a long-tenured R in a very red state, there are only so many ways you accomplish that.

Coitus · « **Reply #37055 on:** July 10, 2019, 02:37:49 PM »

All she needs to do is make clear that when she talks about lowering prescription drug prices she specifically means vicodin.

team filler · « **Reply #37056 on:** July 10, 2019, 02:44:02 PM »

https://twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/1148920660648955904

Brehvolution · « **Reply #37057 on:** July 10, 2019, 02:52:31 PM »

American oligarchy will never let the public vote away it's wealth.

team filler · « **Reply #37058 on:** July 10, 2019, 03:35:20 PM »

https://twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/1148909839797628928

Kara · « **Reply #37059 on:** July 10, 2019, 04:14:31 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on July 10, 2019, 02:33:39 PM

Well, she is trying to unseat a long-tenured R in a very red state, there are only so many ways you accomplish that.

Turnout in Kentucky in 2016 was less than 60% even though Trump promised to bring back coal. We've been down this road before.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #37060 on:** July 10, 2019, 04:40:12 PM »

Does Kentucky care about coal? The industry around it is very small and concentrated in the far flung ends of the state. I think it employs less than 6000 workers now, in a state that has 240k people employed.

The decline of coal is because of two factors Trump can't control. Expanding regional power-sharing (marketplaces) and the ability of natural gas-fired electricity to dominate those markets.

So, you would have to do the unthinkable of breaking up those regional grid providers into smaller parts or putting some kind of tax on natural gas to make coal more competitive again.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #37061 on:** July 10, 2019, 04:43:48 PM »

trump is bringing those jobs back any day now.

Kara · « **Reply #37062 on:** July 10, 2019, 04:55:22 PM »

Quote from: shosta on July 10, 2019, 04:46:50 PM

Imagery like cowboys, the military, and coal miners are all critical to white kkkulture and identity. Making an appeal to those people is really about making an appeal to all the people who see themselves in those people even though they've never had a dirty job in their life. That's why you see Joe the Plumber on Fox Business News.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wfpl.org/heres-what-kentuckys-specialty-license-plates-say-about-kentuckians/amp/

VomKriege · « **Reply #37063 on:** July 10, 2019, 05:22:40 PM »

Yeah White America, have real heroes, like traders.

It's kind of ludicrous to lump that with cowboys, cops or the military who all have guns (at least so far as the popular myth goes).
There's a mystique alright to (coal) miners and it predates global warming and since it's present in most industrial countries (you might have heard of Stakhanov ?) it's not because of the gold rush image of a dashing, independent entrepreneur making it big.

Miners are actual working class heroes. Obsolete perhaps, but myths die hard. The pandering is pretty absurd but you know what they say about pictures speaking a thousand words...

VomKriege · « **Reply #37064 on:** July 10, 2019, 05:30:04 PM »

Quote from: shosta on July 10, 2019, 05:27:42 PM

french guy outchea tryna teach me about american culture

I actually might have better credentials on White KKKulture tho.

VomKriege · « **Reply #37065 on:** July 10, 2019, 05:34:07 PM »

Quote from: Stro on July 10, 2019, 05:33:17 PM

VomKriege openly admitting to being a racist. Maybe this truly is a hate site after all.

Well I'm white (same thing really).

VomKriege · « **Reply #37066 on:** July 10, 2019, 05:37:55 PM »

Quote from: shosta on July 10, 2019, 05:35:32 PM

Quote from: VomKriege on July 10, 2019, 05:30:04 PM
I actually might have better credentials on White KKKulture tho.
Nice try, but the white half of my family is poverty level white-trash from Appalachia.

VomKriege · « **Reply #37067 on:** July 10, 2019, 05:56:34 PM »

And there's plenty to criticize in the myth. It's a very masculine (in the traditional sense) one and it can take some fatalist and self sacrificial overtones. But I'm always confused when leftists take aim at one of the few labor myths, especially one where huge strikes are really prominent in the mystique no matter how much you try to sanitize it. Auto factory employees, the other archetypal industrial age workers, don't seem to trigger those sort of Pavlovian hostile reactions despite being seeped in the same toxic masculinity, participating in an industry that is fucking up the planet presently & having its set of issues like semi regular incident about racism in the work place. Really, it often reads like lashing out at workers for having betrayed "the Left" instead on reflecting on why it may has lost clout in those demographics.

But heh

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #37068 on:** July 10, 2019, 06:12:53 PM »

Quote from: Kara on July 10, 2019, 04:55:22 PM

Quote from: shosta on July 10, 2019, 04:46:50 PM
Imagery like cowboys, the military, and coal miners are all critical to white kkkulture and identity. Making an appeal to those people is really about making an appeal to all the people who see themselves in those people even though they've never had a dirty job in their life. That's why you see Joe the Plumber on Fox Business News.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wfpl.org/heres-what-kentuckys-specialty-license-plates-say-about-kentuckians/amp/

"I'm bringing back *checks notes* colleges to Kentucky!"

Kara · « **Reply #37069 on:** July 10, 2019, 06:19:55 PM »

I would say that an extractive industry has different symbolic meanings in:

settler colonial states with previous inhabitants whose dispossession and oppression is fundamental to the settlement

European ethnostates / states with a dominant "nation" / common imaginary friend

Revolutionary states

But we're drifting into "Is Wario A Libertarian" - the greatest thread in the history of forums, locked by a moderator after 12,239 pages of heated debate,

VomKriege · « **Reply #37070 on:** July 10, 2019, 06:41:41 PM »

But... Is Wario a libertarian then ?

curly · « **Reply #37071 on:** July 10, 2019, 06:42:44 PM »

Quote from: VomKriege on July 10, 2019, 05:56:34 PM

And there's plenty to criticize in the myth. It's a very masculine (in the traditional sense) one and it can take some fatalist and self sacrificial overtones. But I'm always confused when leftists take aim at one of the few labor myths, especially one where huge strikes are really prominent in the mystique no matter how much you try to sanitize it. Auto factory employees, the other archetypal industrial age workers, don't seem to trigger those sort of Pavlovian hostile reactions despite being seeped in the same toxic masculinity, participating in an industry that is fucking up the planet presently & having its set of issues like semi regular incident about racism in the work place. Really, it often reads like lashing out at workers for having betrayed "the Left" instead on reflecting on why it may has lost clout in those demographics.

But heh

Ehhhh I think a lot of the hostility is premised on the basic idiocy of the idea of bringing back coal. Auto workers are still a fundamental part of the American labor movement while coal boosterism is almost entirely nostalgia for a misremembered past that's been stripped of any connection to labor militancy. Also we're much more ready culturally to be honest about the environmental effects of coal than we are to be about the effects of car culture.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #37072 on:** July 10, 2019, 07:21:02 PM »

Quote from: Esch on July 10, 2019, 06:31:31 PM

https://twitter.com/NYMag/status/1148627147717824512

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines

Kara · « **Reply #37073 on:** July 10, 2019, 07:27:27 PM »

Quote from: VomKriege on July 10, 2019, 06:41:41 PM

But... Is Wario a libertarian then ?

In Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 our eponymous hero is mad that Mario expropriated his castle in the last game so he decides to get a new one by going to an island (libertarians love using Robinson Crusoe to make economic arguments) that's inhabited by pirates (libertarians love Somalia even though they'll never go there) to take their wealth by force (libertarians don't believe the non-aggression principle applies to people who haven't followed the law) and sell it back to Princess Peach / Mario (libertarians are giant dads) so that he can buy a new castle. Mario expropriates the pirates' wealth after Wario had beat them up for it (see previous aside) so Wario asks a wish granting genie to give him a castle and the genie demands payment in gold / treasure before doing so which Wario gladly complies with and he is rewarded with a castle commensurate with prices you were ignorant of until that point.

Kara · « **Reply #37074 on:** July 10, 2019, 07:27:44 PM »

This is the only good Mario game btw.

agrajag · « **Reply #37075 on:** July 10, 2019, 07:57:06 PM »

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1147601073697370114

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #37076 on:** July 10, 2019, 08:44:32 PM »

"I've got all this money that I just don't know what to do with it all!"

"Maybe...give raises to your employees?"

"...nah."

Kara · « **Reply #37077 on:** July 10, 2019, 08:52:35 PM »

I'm sure that has nothing to do with the absurd securities bubble we're in atm.

Tripon · « **Reply #37078 on:** July 10, 2019, 09:45:38 PM »

https://twitter.com/BruceBartlett/status/1148964966051078144

Tripon · « **Reply #37079 on:** July 10, 2019, 10:14:56 PM »

https://twitter.com/josheidelson/status/1149015622564626432

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