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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49741 on: January 23, 2020, 07:56:30 PM »
I'm sure Warren, the republican from Oklahoma, has a perfect past
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49742 on: January 23, 2020, 08:11:12 PM »
the marvel/swingers guy?

Just has the same name. Pod save America also have a gay guy named Jon lovitz. Do not listen to pod save America. It is hella boring.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49743 on: January 23, 2020, 09:14:52 PM »
The poll is Jan 16-19, and that quote came out on the 21st.

At least put some effort into your trolling.

https://twitter.com/EmersonPolling/status/1220527465002622979
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49744 on: January 23, 2020, 09:21:46 PM »
The last Emerson poll had him at 25, so that's a change of (+2). Better luck next time, kid.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49745 on: January 23, 2020, 09:34:04 PM »



THIS is what the dumbass was fucking talking about with "lawyer lawsuits" ?? ??

Are you shitting me, I couldn't make out what he was going on about yesterday, but holy wow.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49750 on: January 23, 2020, 11:43:44 PM »
Doesn't Bezos own that one?

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49751 on: January 23, 2020, 11:53:27 PM »

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49752 on: January 24, 2020, 12:02:46 AM »
Trump is so unpopular anyone can win against him. Even sloppy joe.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49753 on: January 24, 2020, 12:03:00 AM »
We will elect daddy bernie

Or else
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49754 on: January 24, 2020, 12:25:01 AM »
I'd say if we don't the country as we know it is dead but it kind of already is, so uh, it'll be more dead? :thinking
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49755 on: January 24, 2020, 01:52:23 AM »
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49756 on: January 24, 2020, 02:26:51 AM »
Probably voting for Bernie in the primary it looks like.

Hopefully Stro, Nachobro and James can all get flat tires or something when he wins so their days still suck just a bit.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49757 on: January 24, 2020, 03:10:13 AM »
Bernie surging right after Bloomberg promises to spend vast amounts of money supporting the eventual nominee puts us on track for the funniest outcome.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49758 on: January 24, 2020, 03:13:15 AM »
steyer, bloomberg

bernie leading the billionaire boys :rejoice

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49759 on: January 24, 2020, 03:46:04 AM »
God I hate how he gives everyone a nick name. Fuck.

Some people really deserve nicknames, for instance Moscow Mitch.
IMPOTUS is nice but why isn't he referred to as Traitor Trump?
Anyone got enough twitter followers to spread #TraitorTrump ?

Edit: And/or Dotard Donald.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49760 on: January 24, 2020, 04:02:03 AM »
Because we're not 7 and the nicknames aren't cute

Just another example of how Trump absolutely lowered the baseline intelligence of the country. The most bewildering thing ever was watching the Republican party gradually adopt the idiosyncratic way Trump constructs sentences.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49761 on: January 24, 2020, 04:03:31 AM »

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49762 on: January 24, 2020, 05:01:51 AM »
God I hate how he gives everyone a nick name. Fuck.

Some people really deserve nicknames, for instance Moscow Mitch.
IMPOTUS is nice but why isn't he referred to as Traitor Trump?
Anyone got enough twitter followers to spread #TraitorTrump ?

Edit: And/or Dotard Donald.

You make Transhuman look like a comedic genius :kobeyuck
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49763 on: January 24, 2020, 05:13:29 AM »
Why be mean when you can be nice  :)

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49764 on: January 24, 2020, 05:21:59 AM »
Why be nice when you can be mean :pimp
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49765 on: January 24, 2020, 05:32:10 AM »
It's mean to be important but it's more important to be mean.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49766 on: January 24, 2020, 05:56:27 AM »
Jesus Christ you guys need to dedicate 10 minutes to Schiff's closing statement for day four and salute your goddamn flag because FUCK

REMOVE

TRUMP

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49767 on: January 24, 2020, 07:22:15 AM »
https://www.predictit.org/markets/11/President-Trump

Bet on impeachment and make that bank Cindi

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49768 on: January 24, 2020, 08:42:59 AM »
Probably voting for Bernie in the primary it looks like.

Hopefully Stro, Nachobro and James can all get flat tires or something when he wins so their days still suck just a bit.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49769 on: January 24, 2020, 09:03:46 AM »
Hate to say that it's killing me a little bit that Bernie can't campaign right now.  Senate Republicans have been way too successful in turning me into an impeachment defeatist.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49770 on: January 24, 2020, 09:05:53 AM »
The nicknames are great. I reject shostas idea that he lowered the standards of the country or whatever. America has no standards.



I linked this before but it feels more relevant each day

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49771 on: January 24, 2020, 09:21:35 AM »
Probably voting for Bernie in the primary it looks like.

Hopefully Stro, Nachobro and James can all get flat tires or something when he wins so their days still suck just a bit.

Okay, who has this account now?

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49772 on: January 24, 2020, 09:49:48 AM »
Because we're not 7 and the nicknames aren't cute

Just another example of how Trump absolutely lowered the baseline intelligence of the country. The most bewildering thing ever was watching the Republican party gradually adopt the idiosyncratic way Trump constructs sentences.

Sloppy Joe and Daddy Bernie are good and wholesome nicknames.

The problem with the nicknames is that Trump is dumb and not a funny person, so his nicknames are bad. I’m kind of surprised he hasn’t started calling Buttigieg like Buttmuncher or something.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49773 on: January 24, 2020, 09:55:01 AM »
Because we're not 7 and the nicknames aren't cute

Just another example of how Trump absolutely lowered the baseline intelligence of the country. The most bewildering thing ever was watching the Republican party gradually adopt the idiosyncratic way Trump constructs sentences.

Sloppy Joe and Daddy Bernie are good and wholesome nicknames.

The problem with the nicknames is that Trump is dumb and not a funny person, so his nicknames are bad. I’m kind of surprised he hasn’t started calling Buttigieg like Buttmuncher or something.

These aren't too bad:



Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49774 on: January 24, 2020, 10:07:22 AM »
https://twitter.com/MsLisaHendricks/status/1219779282311925761

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« Reply #49775 on: January 24, 2020, 10:21:33 AM »
Probably voting for Bernie in the primary it looks like.

Hopefully Stro, Nachobro and James can all get flat tires or something when he wins so their days still suck just a bit.

Glenda, welcome to our revolution

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« Reply #49776 on: January 24, 2020, 10:39:58 AM »
Hate to say that it's killing me a little bit that Bernie can't campaign right now.  Senate Republicans have been way too successful in turning me into an impeachment defeatist.

It's not just that, but impeachment has been pulling away coverage and interest for the primaries for a while now; I'm pretty sure the ratings for the recent debates have been much lower than the earlier ones.

But I don't think it's a big problem for Bernie. He and Biden are the high name-recognition candidates this time around and he always does well among people who say they're not paying much attention to the campaign.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49777 on: January 24, 2020, 11:24:23 AM »
https://twitter.com/MsLisaHendricks/status/1219779282311925761

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49778 on: January 24, 2020, 11:26:35 AM »
I guess fox newz didn't even show impeachment last night and instead played their pro trump opinion shows.  :lol
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49780 on: January 24, 2020, 12:02:59 PM »
I mean combined with the text messages of these guys pretty clearly talking about an assassination.. just lay that out.  Trump said "Take her out", his associates discussed tracking her location, needing to be wary of her security detail, and how you can pay for just about anything in the Ukraine.

Think of their position.

They're journalists. If they say that Trump ordered an assassination of an ambassador - a serious charge - it would be viewed with slant. Provide evidence, conclusive and not a hint of evidence, that Trump ordered an assassination. With the current facts you can't.

A lot of frustrations with journalists will go away when you realize that often they can't just say,"Trump ordered her assassination". That would be the journalists' opinion rather than a statement of the facts. It would further divide the nation that already does not trust the media. Also consider that journalists cannot be for one specific side. Their job is to report news. The tweet you're referring is just that: news.

A lot of frustration I had towards the media went away when I realized this. You're frustrated because you want them to confirm your bias - as true as it may be.

In an article, they would bring up a line about some believe that Trump ordered a hit but it's still scuttlebutt and not verifiable.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49781 on: January 24, 2020, 12:15:08 PM »
Re-read what I wrote.

Saying that the president ordered the assassination of an ambassador is a SERIOUS charge.

Maybe the writer of the article thinks Trump did link it with assassination. But right now show me EVIDENCE that Trump ordered an ASSASSINATION.

You simply can't. So they're keeping the story alive with the relevant FACTS. In other words, information about a recording.

Maybe it will result in proof of Trump ordering an assassination but it's a step by step process.

A lot of people would be a lot less mad about the media if they didn't always want the media to just confirm their opinions. That isn't to say the media also doesn't have issues. I'm telling you ways to make your life less stressful. Take it or leave it. No real journalist is just going to make that claim without sizable evidence. They'll talk about murmurs and what people feel about it but they won't report that themselves until it is confirmed. Otherwise every outlet would be Fox.
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« Reply #49782 on: January 24, 2020, 12:21:45 PM »
I'd like to have an opinion on this but maaaaaannnnnn I don't want to have to read up on all this Ukraine stuff.

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« Reply #49783 on: January 24, 2020, 12:23:37 PM »
Re-read what I wrote.

Saying that the president ordered the assassination of an ambassador is a SERIOUS charge.

The hell?  What makes you think I didn't read your post?  Maybe re-read mine.

I'm not suggesting anyone write an article that says the words "Trump ordered an assassination."  Your entire rant is ranting against something I didn't suggest.

I'm suggesting they write an article that says:

- An audio recording shows trump saying these things:  "Take her out"
- Some text messages on this date show his associates from that meeting discussing her security detail, how you can pay for anything in Ukraine.

Present the facts, not an opinion of those facts.. a reading of those facts.. an interpretation of those facts.

All I'm saying is to not expect it and this will make your life less stressful. You might find what you're looking for in an opinion section.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49784 on: January 24, 2020, 12:25:27 PM »
A combined  L for tradcaths and the NFL :hmm

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1220724744833597446

Birds of a feather and all that.
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« Reply #49785 on: January 24, 2020, 12:30:42 PM »
My main critique is this line.

The media are cowards re-phrasing / explaining that as firing her.

"Rephrasing" "cowards" "facts"

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« Reply #49786 on: January 24, 2020, 12:33:53 PM »
https://twitter.com/MsLisaHendricks/status/1219779282311925761

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« Reply #49787 on: January 24, 2020, 12:36:35 PM »
Cindi, riotous isn't asking for the article to include analysis/interpretation linking it to an assassination demand, he's saying he wants the article to present the facts and not include a softer interpretation the way it did (ie "calling for her firing" is the author's voice).

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« Reply #49788 on: January 24, 2020, 12:43:31 PM »
Cindi, riotous isn't asking for the article to include analysis/interpretation linking it to an assassination demand, he's saying he wants the article to present the facts and not include a softer interpretation the way it did (ie "calling for her firing" is the author's voice).

I know what he wants. I'm disagreeing with him that it's a fact. What he has is an interpretation of the facts. Hence, opinion. He said they're rephrasing it. For the record, I agree that Trump likely put a hit on her. I'm just saying that life is less stressful when you don't expect them to report like that, which shouldn't be controversial.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49789 on: January 24, 2020, 12:59:18 PM »
I hate trump as much as the next guy, but I’m reading take her out as take her out of ukraine, a likely first step to firing an overseas employee.  I’d love to believe he’s out there ordering hits but it just doesn’t make sense that he would have someone killed when he could have sent one tweet and fired them.  The Hyde stuff looks like it’s all on Hyde so far.

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« Reply #49790 on: January 24, 2020, 01:03:50 PM »
Anyways, I highly recommend watching this CSPAN clip where callers call in. A Republican and Independent called in and it's heartbreaking. A man chokes up crying as our republic crumbles for the sacrifices he's undergone during the call.



It's currently time stamped. Keep watching for the calls.

It gives me hope that public pressure might force Republicans to grow a spine and force Trump to resign.
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« Reply #49791 on: January 24, 2020, 01:07:26 PM »
I hate trump as much as the next guy, but I’m reading take her out as take her out of ukraine, a likely first step to firing an overseas employee.  I’d love to believe he’s out there ordering hits but it just doesn’t make sense that he would have someone killed when he could have sent one tweet and fired them.  The Hyde stuff looks like it’s all on Hyde so far.

For sure could be what he meant;  thing is they didn't do that in 2018 when this alleged meeting occurred.  They enacted a smear campaign against her, and then his associates had shady as fuck conversations that certainly weren't about officially / legally removing her.

The smear campaign makes sense since other people use Fox News to get trump to do something it’s possible they thought it would work in reverse as well.  As far the texts they seem pretty damning but even parnas threw cold water on those in his interview with Maddow.  It’s certainly possible that Parnas wasn’t willing to admit he was coordinating an assassination but some of his responses seem like he was just obliging Hyde.  If more information drops that connects this plot to trump than great, but right now it seems too good to be true.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49792 on: January 24, 2020, 01:15:26 PM »
It wasn't gaslighting. It was my interpretation of your own words. You immediately lashed out and acted like a dick.
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« Reply #49793 on: January 24, 2020, 01:21:38 PM »
More gaslighting.  I immediately tried explaining it to you, you continued to ignore my posts.. don't care if it isn't gaslighting on purpose, it's gaslighting by you refusing to actually read posts.

I agree with Cindi here that it would be reckless to run that story as the president ordered an assassination of a US ambassador without something a bit more concrete.

I also agree;  which is why I never suggested it.

The media are cowards re-phrasing / explaining that as firing her.

Just say Trump said he wanted her taken out, don't explain it away.


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« Reply #49794 on: January 24, 2020, 01:27:33 PM »
Cindi, riotous isn't asking for the article to include analysis/interpretation linking it to an assassination demand, he's saying he wants the article to present the facts and not include a softer interpretation the way it did (ie "calling for her firing" is the author's voice).

I know what he wants. I'm disagreeing with him that it's a fact. What he has is an interpretation of the facts. Hence, opinion. He said they're rephrasing it. For the record, I agree that Trump likely put a hit on her. I'm just saying that life is less stressful when you don't expect them to report like that, which shouldn't be controversial.

The direct quotes that were recorded are facts. When the article says the recording "appears to capture President Donald Trump telling associates he wanted the then-U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch fired," that is the author's interpretation, not a direct fact. That is what riotous is talking about.

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« Reply #49795 on: January 24, 2020, 01:29:06 PM »
This is why I hate arguing over text. I understand what Riotous meant now. Jesus Christ. Sorry.
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« Reply #49796 on: January 24, 2020, 01:33:30 PM »
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| Hillary Clinton revanchists at it again
« Reply #49797 on: January 24, 2020, 01:45:21 PM »
Why would trump tell someone he doesn't even know to take her out? :thinking
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« Reply #49798 on: January 24, 2020, 01:49:10 PM »
"Butheremails" is run into the ground, but still kinda funny that after an election where one candidate's opsec was treated as a major issue, multiple people are recording their conversations with the president without him knowing.

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« Reply #49799 on: January 24, 2020, 02:03:56 PM »

It gives me hope that public pressure might force Republicans to grow a spine and force Trump to resign.
That certainly seems to be working:
https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1220744442765828097

https://twitter.com/BrandyZadrozny/status/1220766146808500226

Meanwhile Trump is mostly worried about Saturday's ratings of his lawyers
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1220687131292643329

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