US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[OnlyRegret]

I mean, I’ll flip on this board if they send the money, I like money

The crucial Bore platform ripe for the picking

[Joe Molotov]

A 3D Bubsy game

Does this make Tom Steyer a 2D Bubsy game?

Yeah, but the PS4 one.

[OnlyRegret]

two-fer, as you can also squint and see it as tacit admittance that he fears The Bern

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1229888362841985025

[benjipwns]

Mike Bloomberg leads Oklahoma’s Democratic primary field in a new poll two weeks before the election

In a Sooner Survey poll, 20% of past Oklahoma Democratic primary voters said they’d vote for Bloomberg on March 3, followed by 14% for Bernie Sanders, 12% for Joe Biden and 11% for Pete Buttigieg.

Elizabeth Warren had 8% of past Democratic primary voters' support, while Amy Klobuchar had 6%. Another 7% of voters said they would support other candidates, 9% said they are undecided and 14% said they probably won't vote.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1229871176614199296

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1229871184193282048

 

[Himu]

[nachobro]

[team filler]

love the switch to just calling him "mini"  nice touch 

[Trurl]

Remember a couple weeks ago when someone posted some internal analysis that the Sanders campaign did like a year ago that reflects today's situation fairly accurately?  Does anyone know where that is?  I can't find it.

[nachobro]

https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/1229939131171643392

[benjipwns]

A super PAC supporting Amy Klobuchar is dropping a seven-figure ad buy into Nevada and South Carolina, giving the Minnesota senator a much-needed financial boost.

The super PAC, called Kitchen Table Conversations, was formed late last week

[james]

This is over on super Tuesday

https://mobile.twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/1229966040198766594

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/aidachavez/status/1229947380495052800

https://twitter.com/banditelli/status/1229950357976969216

 

[benjipwns]

the debates started off with candidates doing bad spanish, it's like poetry

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/BootsRiley/status/1229938806150717440

 

[team filler]

warren saying "vote for me! I'm a woman! women are good house servants!" 

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/TSBigMoney/status/1225920697786126337  Is the media just this thin skinned?

[OnlyRegret]

https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1228548136580370433

[bluemax]

https://twitter.com/djrothkopf/status/1229753071414259714

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1228548136580370433

I dunno if I'd trust Hobby Lobby 2.0.

https://twitter.com/djrothkopf/status/1229753071414259714

"--To me, the male candidates all have fatal flaws that the women do not have...and are not as strong, smart, capable as the women."
>Says this about Bernie
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[Tripon]

Does the Iowa debacle make you want to scream? Are you tuned out of Mike Bloomberg’s endless TV ads? Can’t stand the idea of yet another diner interview? I hear you. A stump speech is rarely interesting, let alone inspiring, the second time around. A year of them from a half-dozen or more candidates is most people’s definition of hell.

But to a reporter from Australia, who’s lived in Britain and Brussels, and observed elections from Egypt to New Zealand, and now lives in these United States, I can tell you this: American democracy has a level of rigor and engagement that’s as precious as it is unusual. And there’s no better expression of that energy than the yearlong (or is it yearslong?) presidential primary.

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The grueling transparency of the long campaign is a feature rather than a bug of your democracy. It’s time to embrace it.

If you want to lead the free world, there’s no better down payment than staying in a string of Holiday Inns or sleeping in a supporter’s twin bed. None of the world’s dictators — with their gold-plated toilets and towering portraits — had to do Iowa in January to get their job, and it shows.

The cultural DNA of the primary is also deeply American. Think about the commitment that many single Americans demonstrate to dating multiple people at the same time. If that’s not the definition of a primary, I don’t know what is. It takes time to find love. Sometimes you sleep with the wrong person. It’s OK to wake up with a candidate and realize you see them as more of a Health and Human services Secretary than a presidential partner. But you need the space of a long primary to recover from those mistakes.

Now to your endless debates: They are a buffet of democracy! It could be worse—you could be Czech. Presidential candidates in the Czech Republic debated 37 times in their 2018 election. The professionalism (and repetition) of American debates reveals character flaws and knowledge gaps among the candidates, while exposing vanity and penalizing inauthenticity, in ways debates in many countries around the world do not.

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Even so, American debates could be improved. Americans are innovators, but you let Belgium beat you to rotating candidates on- and offstage for minidebates and face-offs on key topics. Catch up! Personally, I’d vote the poor performers off at halftime. That would create ratings and crowds even President Donald Trump would feel no need to exaggerate.

And let me tell you how much I love the rivers of money in American politics. I get a tingle every time I see the quarterly fundraising totals and numbers of donors come in. Granted, dark money is nasty, and few like the idea of billionaires spending themselves into office. But all that money also trains new generations of campaigners and pays them a living wage, letting the good and the hardworking find their place in democratic institutions. In other countries, campaign staff are often on the public docket or are limited to those who can afford to work as volunteers. Without a long primary and the money needed to run it, the campaign would be even more of an upper-class affair.

Money in politics has a bad reputation, but it is a pure expression of political engagement. Millions of Americans put their money where their mouth is each month. And all they get is a crappy bumper sticker or wine cave visit in return. Do you know how many times my family members have donated to a political campaign in Australia? Zero. I’m certain it’s the same with our neighbors. Is it any wonder Australians have been living in a self-inflicted fireball in recent months?

But what about how distracting the primary is? Shouldn’t Democrats be registering people to vote in Wisconsin, and running court challenges in Georgia, and painting Yuma, Arizona, blue? Yes, Democrats, you should be doing that. But if you can’t figure out how to donate $10 to your candidate as well as $10 to Stacey Abrams’ organization, don’t blame the long primary. Blame yourselves.

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The long American primary is an inversion of the parliamentary system in many other countries. Instead of assembling a governing coalition before the general election as a U.S. primary allows, those countries spend months constructing the governing majority afterwards. A decade ago, Belgium took more than 500 days to form a new government. A few days eating State Fair fried foods on the campaign trail seems reasonable by comparison.

The hundreds of international TV crews and reporters who traipsed through the snow in Iowa and New Hampshire will now hit the deserts of Nevada. It’s not because they get tingles listening to Elizabeth Warren’s plans. They do it because of the hope that is implicit in so many Americans trying to caucus their way to a brighter future.

The long primary is an exotic luxury, but in the grand sweep of human history, so is democracy. That’s what makes America’s commitment to it beautiful.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/02/18/memo-to-america-your-primary-system-is-great-115306

[OnlyRegret]

can the boys clock a sobbing intern in the face with a military grade stapler at 30 paces?
thought not, checkmate

[thisismyusername]

DoYouHaveASingleFactToBackThatUp.jpg

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/JasonOverstreet/status/1229916398345834498

https://twitter.com/emilycrockett/status/1229906864000901121

[Transhuman]

Maybe in the matchup Warren lost and they didn't want to embarrass her

[OnlyRegret]

 

https://twitter.com/liz_franczak/status/1229969550029938688

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/1230039557673897984

 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Or they're just fillers

[Trurl]

WHAT IF:


MSNBC/CNN actually DO want Bernie to win and are treating him like the media treated Trump in 2015-2016, learning the lesson that the harder they pushed against him, the more people wanted him to win. Chris Matthews is actually a die hard Bernie Bro :conspiracy

Trump got lots of free coverage while being treated like a joke.  Unless things have changed, Bernie only gets the second part of the deal.

[Trurl]

For as much as people talk about health, does anyone actually vote based on that?  We have rules for the Potus dying.  As long as the president doesn't have some drawn out cognitive decline I have never cared as much as it seems I'm supposed to

[james]

https://twitter.com/marwilliamson/status/1230039557673897984

 

I fully agree with Marianne. That is why we must slaughter the losers and reclaim our country.

[nachobro]

https://twitter.com/CNNPR/status/1230132400790831107

 

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/CNNPR/status/1230132400790831107

 

https://twitter.com/OpinionatedLab/status/1230157029408493570

[Brehvolution]

Not a Bloomberg fan, but he is the only one of the candidates who can challenge trump on his wealth. Reminding the public that trump inherited his money hurts trump more than any other attack. trump has convinced a lot of people that he is self made. That lie will turn a lot of those people off.

trump commuting/pardoning the sentences of obviously corrupt white men isn't doing him any favors either.

[Joe Molotov]

CNN...welcome to the Resistance Yang Gang.

[Nintex]

Trump rallies going on a world tour 
https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1229965972452167680

[Himu]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/18/fix-primaries-let-elites-decide/



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I'm so glad I'm no longer a subscriber to WaPo. They're truly terrible. Yes, it's an opinion and not news. But NYT is 20 times better than WaPo.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1230190344731602944

lmao

[BIONIC]

4D B E A S T

[Brehvolution]

https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2020/02/ballot-initiative-effort-to-move-eastern-oregon-counties-to-idaho-gains-momentum-leader-calls-it-peaceful-revolution.html

“It’s a lifestyle/values judgment between urban and rural more than anything else,” he insists. He says many residents of rural Oregon “aren’t as conservative as me” but still see the benefits of being part of a more rural-minded state like Idaho.

He and Gottschalk acknowledge there are a lot of questions eastern-Oregon voters would need to chew on, such as schools funding (Oregon spends more per student than Idaho) and the advantages/drawbacks of a sales tax (Idaho has one, Oregon doesn’t) and an estate tax (Oregon has one, Idaho doesn’t).

He admits the Oregon counties would have to accept that they’d likely receive fewer services from the state if they jumped to Idaho. But this also could be one of the reasons Oregon might be willing to let them go.

“Most of the counties east of the Cascades are upside down,” he says. “They have to be supplemented by the state. So, potentially, Salem might be willing to do it.”

Needless to say, those counties’ services needs probably wouldn’t make a border switch more attractive to Boise.

Mah conservatisms aren't being respected. Are liberties are at stake. Portland can keep it's socialism as long as Idaho will pick it up for us. We hates socialism , but don't want to go without either.

From another article:

“Rural counties have become increasingly outraged by laws coming out of the Oregon Legislature that threaten our livelihoods, our industries, our wallet, our gun rights, and our values," he said. "We tried voting those legislators out but rural Oregon is outnumbered and our voices are now ignored. This is our last resort.”

It's called democracy, Cletus.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/schwartzbCNBC/status/1230212699096862727

Goodbye!
Uncle Joe

In Cinemas On Netflix November 2021

[Cauliflower Of Love]

The Pentagon's top policy official who warned against withholding military aid to Ukraine last year resigned on Wednesday at the request of President Donald Trump, according to a copy of his resignation letter obtained by CNN.

"It is my understanding from Secretary Esper that you requested my resignation from serving as Under Secretary of Defense for Policy. Senior administration officials appointed by the President serve at the pleasure of the President, and therefore, as you have requested, I am providing my resignation effective February 28, 2020," Rood wrote in his letter to President Donald Trump, dated Wednesday.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/19/politics/john-rood-pentagon-official-depart/index.html

Everybody is bouncing. It's gonna be empty rooms where trump is just yelling shit soon

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/19/rod-blagojevich-released-prison-after-trump-commutes-sentence/4804835002/

Blagojevich expressed his "profound and everlasting gratitude" to Trump, declaring himself "a Trumpocrat."

"He didn’t have to do this. He’s a Republican president. I was a Democratic governor. And doing this does nothing to help his politics," Blagojevich said.

[OnlyRegret]

The Pentagon's top policy official who warned against withholding military aid to Ukraine last year resigned on Wednesday at the request of President Donald Trump, according to a copy of his resignation letter obtained by CNN.

"It is my understanding from Secretary Esper that you requested my resignation from serving as Under Secretary of Defense for Policy. Senior administration officials appointed by the President serve at the pleasure of the President, and therefore, as you have requested, I am providing my resignation effective February 28, 2020," Rood wrote in his letter to President Donald Trump, dated Wednesday.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/19/politics/john-rood-pentagon-official-depart/index.html

Everybody is bouncing. It's gonna be empty rooms where trump is just yelling shit soon

Sounds like draining the swamp to me

[Nintex]

The Trump administration is pivoting back into the Trump campaign.

The people 'fired' from the administration that went on to work for the 'campaign', Super PACs or 'Fox News' are transitioning back into the administration.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

gaslighters

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/18/bernie-sanders-ocasio-cortez-medicare-for-all-115913

Sen. Bernie Sanders broke with one of his highest-profile surrogates Tuesday on his signature Medicare for All proposal, suggesting that his policy proposal is already a compromise.

New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez told HuffPost last week that a worst-case scenario with Sanders in the White House is a compromise on health care that ends up adding a public option.


“But my view is that Medicare for All, the bill that we wrote, is in a sense already a compromise,” Sanders said.

But Ocasio-Cortez is also realistic about how far even a President Sanders could actually move Congress.

“The worst-case scenario? We compromise deeply and we end up getting a public option. Is that a nightmare? I don’t think so,” she said.

Look at these two fighting!

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1230190344731602944

lmao

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1230221005924294663

[Nintex]

Is it just me or is Assange slowly morphing into Putin with a beard and wig?

The smoking USB stick, clever. I use those to hack the internet all the time.

[Trent Dole]

It's 2016 forever!

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/TwinklingTania/status/1230209281607102465

bae is back  had the view crowd applauding anti-capitalism 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Imagine criticizing someone who didn't get into public space with someone elses name.

[thisismyusername]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/18/fix-primaries-let-elites-decide/



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I'm so glad I'm no longer a subscriber to WaPo. They're truly terrible. Yes, it's an opinion and not news. But NYT is 20 times better than WaPo.

WOAH NOW

Let's not say anything crazy/foolish, hon. They're both trash fires.

[Himu]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/02/18/fix-primaries-let-elites-decide/



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I'm so glad I'm no longer a subscriber to WaPo. They're truly terrible. Yes, it's an opinion and not news. But NYT is 20 times better than WaPo.

WOAH NOW

Let's not say anything crazy/foolish, hon. They're both trash fires.

They both have their agendas, certainly. But NYT is still a good source for news. If you only get your news from The Young Turks or HuffPo or something you're no different than a Trumpist that gets their news only from Fox. The reality is that every news source in America has a bias. Look at NPR currently. They're all bought. NYT is still pretty great.

[thisismyusername]

I'm using Cenk as an emote, I don't watch the Young Turks. 

NYT IMO isn't a good source of news anymore. Hasn't been since like 2010 or so. Profiling Neo-Nazi's with (#NeoNazisTheyreJustLikeYou!) style articles and the like just sealed them into the same area that Washington Post put itself in (#DemocracyDiesInDarkness on Trumps Win)

[Joe Molotov]

People read HuffPo 

[Himu]

I'm using Cenk as an emote, I don't watch the Young Turks. 

NYT IMO isn't a good source of news anymore. Hasn't been since like 2010 or so. Profiling Neo-Nazi's with (#NeoNazisTheyreJustLikeYou!) style articles and the like just sealed them into the same area that Washington Post put itself in (#DemocracyDiesInDarkness on Trumps Win)

Mind sharing this article on Neo Nazi's with me?

Also "Democracy dies in darkness" is so embarrassingly tacky.

[OnlyRegret]

huffing post

[Flannel Boy]

https://twitter.com/myhlee/status/1230209480849285122
https://twitter.com/myhlee/status/1230210945433178113

This year, Google and Facebook have served up 2 billion Bloomberg ads, which works out to 30,000 a minute. Of course, the number probably dips when people are offline and rises during big primary events that Bloomberg advertises around. Since joining the race in November, he has outspent all other candidates combined on Google by more than $10 million.

[OnlyRegret]

tsunami of cash flooding the landscape and leaving him the tallest thing left standing indeed

[Cauliflower Of Love]

bloomberg is a dickhead

Bernie was all "we are raising record amounts of money in history".

hold my beer said bloomberg

"we are spending records amounts of money"

[Occam]

Trump offered WikiLeaks' Julian Assange a pardon if he covered up Russian hacking of Democrats, lawyer tells court

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/19/trump-offered-julian-assange-pardon-for-covering-up-russian-hacking.html

This is insane. This alone would have sunk any politician in any democratic country.