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« Reply #2400 on: January 24, 2017, 10:36:19 AM »
benji i have a stephen crowder video for you  :heartbeat :heartbeat



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SHOUTING BUZZWORDS! WE ARE SHOUTING BUZZWORDS! BUZZWORDS!

Goddamnit, these people are dumb. If they focused on the only human's rights issue US women face today which is abortion they might have achieved something, but no, they're just there to whine about Trump, spout gender studies buzzwords and wear... pussy hats? What a fucking circus.
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First off even a march solely on abortion (lol) wouldn't "achieve" change, with a republican president and congress. Seems like the march was on a variety of issues (pay gap, rape, sexual assault, trans rights, etc etc etc) and a large, mass organizing achievement that could pay dividends in the future. Or not.

White dudes telling minorities what they should and shouldn't be protesting  :holeup


A women's march focusing on abortion is a perfectly valid solution. Spouting idiotic buzzwords isn't. Ranting like that idiot Madonna who wanted to blow up the White House or some shit, isn't. Reciting shitty poems about nasty women isn't.

Also love what you did the neogaf inspired logic where white dudes aren't supposed to offer their opinion on stuff. Love your assumption that I'm a white dude too. :holeup

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« Reply #2401 on: January 24, 2017, 10:38:37 AM »
I don't know how anyone can be antiglobalization -- it's the only way we beat the aliens
>implying that the globalists aren't already aliens :doge

If we don't work with the galactic order, we'll never defeat the interdimensional darkness, quit being a nazi

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« Reply #2402 on: January 24, 2017, 10:42:59 AM »
Why is a rally solely on abortion a "valid solution" in your view, and how exactly wouldn't it also include Madonna and some other stupid voices making dumb statements? I'm not sure I'd label any protest a solution in of itself. The point of protest is focus attention on a problem, organize people and work towards change. You know, like the march this weekend.

You're right I assumed you're a white man. You could very well be a Muslim dude, a faux militant black guy, or really a cis man in general. Dismissing the plight of the less fortunate is certainly a cis man special. But "white man" is always my first answer.  :doge
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« Reply #2403 on: January 24, 2017, 10:49:16 AM »
Trump is a buffoon of epic proportions, an egomaniac that doesn't know what the fuck he's doing and cares about what people think of him, if there was ever time to convince him instead of the preferred liberal solution of antagonizing him nonstop and whining for 2 straight months, it's now. There's a reason Elon Musk is meeting with him again and is being diplomatic with him, he knows that's the only strategy to convince the moron. It's the same strategy Sanders follows too. Find an important issue and hammer it until hopefully he changes his stance or at least is more flexible on it.

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« Reply #2404 on: January 24, 2017, 10:51:21 AM »
A protest is a big networking event. What is hard to understand about that? All these men (and some women) saying "it's pointless and will be forgotten about in a week" seem to think that protesting is and ends to itself and exists in a vacuum.  At our local march thousands of names and contact information were collected and will be distributed it to local allied organizations (with their consent).

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« Reply #2405 on: January 24, 2017, 10:57:05 AM »
A protest is a big networking event. What is hard to understand about that? All these men (and some women) saying "it's pointless and will be forgotten about in a week" seem to think that protesting is and ends to itself and exists in a vacuum.  At our local march thousands of names and contact information were collected and will be distributed it to local allied organizations (with their consent).

 :cmonson

With a diluted message that basically boils down to FUCK TRUMP they won't achieve shit. The more videos I watch the more this seems more of an extension to the liberal whinefest and mass hysteria than an actual protest. Still trying to stay optimistic and hope that something will come out of this circus. Jesus Christ, this country even managed to ridicule protesting.

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« Reply #2406 on: January 24, 2017, 11:01:12 AM »
Donny, you're out of your element.

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« Reply #2407 on: January 24, 2017, 11:03:10 AM »
A protest is a big networking event. What is hard to understand about that? All these men (and some women) saying "it's pointless and will be forgotten about in a week" seem to think that protesting is and ends to itself and exists in a vacuum.  At our local march thousands of names and contact information were collected and will be distributed it to local allied organizations (with their consent).

 :cmonson

With a diluted message that basically boils down to FUCK TRUMP they won't achieve shit. The more videos I watch the more this seems more of an extension to the liberal whinefest and mass hysteria than an actual protest. Still trying to stay optimistic and hope that something will come out of this circus. Jesus Christ, this country even managed to ridicule protesting.

Did you go to the March?  Did you talk to anyone who went?  Have you read the official positions of the March?
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« Reply #2408 on: January 24, 2017, 11:09:19 AM »
A protest is a big networking event. What is hard to understand about that? All these men (and some women) saying "it's pointless and will be forgotten about in a week" seem to think that protesting is and ends to itself and exists in a vacuum.  At our local march thousands of names and contact information were collected and will be distributed it to local allied organizations (with their consent).

 :cmonson

With a diluted message that basically boils down to FUCK TRUMP they won't achieve shit. The more videos I watch the more this seems more of an extension to the liberal whinefest and mass hysteria than an actual protest. Still trying to stay optimistic and hope that something will come out of this circus. Jesus Christ, this country even managed to ridicule protesting.

Did you go to the March?  Did you talk to anyone who went?  Have you read the official positions of the March?

No.  Yes, they're a couple and both socialists too so I can't repeat what they said, some liberals here will get triggered, hard. We're talking about Washington, right? No, but I know what it'll say and what it actually looks like.

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« Reply #2409 on: January 24, 2017, 11:28:39 AM »
Hundreds of thousands of people and his focus is on a couple socialists and Madonna
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My issue with the protest is moreso a feeling that a lot of people there simply didn't vote, or voted third party in contested states. Not to mention the fact that 53% of white women voted for Trump while every other group fiercely opposed him. This seems bigger than the anti-Iraq protests I remember but still, I have a feeling I'm watching a re-run. Will this result in anything in 2018? Not saying dems should retake the house or senate, both maps are pretty tough. But why do I have a feeling we're going to see apathy creep back just in time for midterms.

Not to mention thinking that far left liberals will take their ball and go home when Sanders/Warren/etc fail to win the dem nomination. Being a decent person/candidate/etc matters more than Wall St ties to people (see: Obama), and I doubt anyone can be worse than Hillary Clinton...but I still see potential for people to fuck this up again.
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« Reply #2410 on: January 24, 2017, 11:38:29 AM »
I focused on how it looked like to anyone outside the liberal bubble and on what goals it could achieve, you know, goals, those things that people protest for. 

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« Reply #2411 on: January 24, 2017, 11:48:22 AM »
I focused on how it looked like to anyone outside the liberal bubble and on what goals it could achieve, you know, goals, those things that people protest for.
BUZZWORD

Protests always feature bad apples and ugly scenes. But I'm pretty damn impressed at the scope of the event, the awareness that was created, people who were introduced to organizing/groups/etc. This was a pretty well done and seemingly effective protest march. BLM should take notes, but don't get me started on that.  :doge


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« Reply #2412 on: January 24, 2017, 12:52:10 PM »
Hundreds of thousands of people and his focus is on a couple socialists and Madonna
:dead

My issue with the protest is moreso a feeling that a lot of people there simply didn't vote, or voted third party in contested states. Not to mention the fact that 53% of white women voted for Trump while every other group fiercely opposed him. This seems bigger than the anti-Iraq protests I remember but still, I have a feeling I'm watching a re-run. Will this result in anything in 2018? Not saying dems should retake the house or senate, both maps are pretty tough. But why do I have a feeling we're going to see apathy creep back just in time for midterms.

Not to mention thinking that far left liberals will take their ball and go home when Sanders/Warren/etc fail to win the dem nomination. Being a decent person/candidate/etc matters more than Wall St ties to people (see: Obama), and I doubt anyone can be worse than Hillary Clinton...but I still see potential for people to fuck this up again.

Like someone on NPR mentioned, the problem with the liberal movement when it comes to the election is amongst other things, it is demographically working counter to how you win elections.

You can win the popular vote but Democrats are fleeing areas that Trump just won. So my real question is, how many of these people come from places where their vote heavily mattered to begin with? At least with respect to the presidency?

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« Reply #2413 on: January 24, 2017, 01:38:05 PM »






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« Reply #2414 on: January 24, 2017, 01:40:54 PM »
If the protests got 13-18 year old girls to start thinking about these issues, then it was worth it.


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« Reply #2415 on: January 24, 2017, 03:04:49 PM »
Hundreds of thousands of people and his focus is on a couple socialists and Madonna
:dead

My issue with the protest is moreso a feeling that a lot of people there simply didn't vote, or voted third party in contested states. Not to mention the fact that 53% of white women voted for Trump while every other group fiercely opposed him. This seems bigger than the anti-Iraq protests I remember but still, I have a feeling I'm watching a re-run. Will this result in anything in 2018? Not saying dems should retake the house or senate, both maps are pretty tough. But why do I have a feeling we're going to see apathy creep back just in time for midterms.

Not to mention thinking that far left liberals will take their ball and go home when Sanders/Warren/etc fail to win the dem nomination. Being a decent person/candidate/etc matters more than Wall St ties to people (see: Obama), and I doubt anyone can be worse than Hillary Clinton...but I still see potential for people to fuck this up again.

Apathy is a real danger, but the EC system or telling people should not vote third party probably is not helping. From an outsider perspective, the Sanders vs Hillary stuff got so hated that is no wonder why people still resenful, but it is also clear that there is a problem if your party is unable to be more cohesive even after Sanders concedes.

 More or less of two thirds of the US hates Trump guts but he gets (or at least is percived) carte blank from his party because they want to push their laws in congress before dealing with him, so I cannot blame people feeling apathic about it  and it only going to be worse as Trump opens his mouth at daily basis while congress soldiers up until the breaking point.

Protest can be positive to avoid that if is apparent that at least is making a denth (and if the activist groups are smart about it)

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« Reply #2416 on: January 24, 2017, 03:08:35 PM »
Nah, third party voting is always dumb and that point should be continually reinforced to minimize how many people do it.

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« Reply #2417 on: January 24, 2017, 03:23:37 PM »
I think the march was good and was a peaceful, very large gathering, and that can be hard to do.

I also think its akin to the end of a Golden Girls episode where they gather at the table, bitch about what happened, and eat pie and coffee until Rose takes off her top, busts our her tits and says they used to have a pussy grabber back on the farm.

They should probably focus their voices on Planned Parenthood funding. Maybe ask for government program for family maternity leave, which Ivanka had previously mentioned. Stay away from the wage gap myth. Try to avoid the embarrassing stuff and stop having idiot speakers. I am not sure they talked much about women abroad, since this was a very NA thing. Black women are at risk, but white women might have it the best in all the western world. Differences like that make a message about rights or goals difficult, but to be fair, protests become a messy mix of ideas that can be tough to detangle and unify into useful goals. Trans issues aren't exactly women issues and may end up conflicting with each other.

So, like I said, because of those issues, it served best as a collective gathering to be sad about Trump. That's fine because it was very successful at that.
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« Reply #2418 on: January 24, 2017, 03:28:01 PM »
Nah, third party voting is always dumb and that point should be continually reinforced to minimize how many people do it.

Fringe conservatives understood that and turned the Republican party into what they wanted. Now they have a president who wants to start a trade war with allies and ease tensions with Russia right after a huge cyber attack. Trump is in spirit a third party candidate and the most successful one ever.

Things are so fucked up that my Iranian side is hoping the CIA saves us by building a real case against Trump or at least preventing a major terror attack so he doesn't get reelected.

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« Reply #2419 on: January 24, 2017, 03:43:06 PM »
Remember when cons were cheering Aetna leaving Obamacare exchanges as a sure sign of it failing. It turns out they were just being brats.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/24/investing/aetna-obamacare-humana-merger/index.html

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That decision to retreat from Obamacare came just a month after the Department of Justice blocked Aetna's $34 billion merger with Humana on antitrust grounds.
But Bates said this week the DOJ presented "persuasive support" -- including internal Aetna emails -- for the conclusion that Aetna (AET) withdrew from the Obamacare exchanges in those counties "to improve its litigation position."
"The Court does not credit the minimal efforts of Aetna executives to claim otherwise," Bates wrote in a ruling following a trial over the merger.
He added that Aetna's decision regarding participation in the 2017 exchanges in these counties was "in fact manipulated."

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"It is very likely that we would need to leave the public exchange business entirely...should our deal ultimately be blocked," Aetna CEO Mark Bertolini wrote in a letter to the DOJ last July
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« Reply #2420 on: January 24, 2017, 03:53:14 PM »
Doesn't matter now since Obamacare is about to be dismantled and the Trump DOJ will rubber stamp the merger [if Aetna still wants it].
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« Reply #2422 on: January 24, 2017, 04:06:49 PM »
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« Reply #2424 on: January 24, 2017, 04:18:06 PM »
Nah, third party voting is always dumb and that point should be continually reinforced to minimize how many people do it.

Enjoy your 8 years of Trump.

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« Reply #2425 on: January 24, 2017, 04:31:06 PM »
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« Reply #2427 on: January 24, 2017, 05:43:23 PM »
Doesn't matter now since Obamacare is about to be dismantled and the Trump DOJ will rubber stamp the merger [if Aetna still wants it].

I am so bi-polar on this issue.

Ask me a week ago and I would of said the ACA is likely gone, today I am not so sure.

As of right now the only agreements Republicans have on the replacement is cutting taxes for the rich, cutting the Medicare expansion(and block granting it) and health savings accounts.

Basically as one Democratic congressman put it, its a plan exclusively for the "wealthy and healthy."

Democrats are gonna feast if Republicans can't swallow their pride and provide something that at least tricks people into thinking things will get better for them. For instance arguing in favor of high deductible plans and allowing insurers to charge old people more is not a winning argument. Even if your opponent is the rhetorically inept Democratic party.



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« Reply #2428 on: January 24, 2017, 05:45:31 PM »
Part of a post on my FB feed, on Obama:

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8 years of tripling our debt creating a healthcare system that taxes the holy hell out of us working people set the race war back hated cops and never showed any compassion for those effected by natural disaster or terrorism, and literally tried to destroy this country from with in.

So, um...
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set the race war back

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« Reply #2429 on: January 24, 2017, 05:48:36 PM »
Remember when cons were cheering Aetna leaving Obamacare exchanges as a sure sign of it failing. It turns out they were just being brats.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/24/investing/aetna-obamacare-humana-merger/index.html

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That decision to retreat from Obamacare came just a month after the Department of Justice blocked Aetna's $34 billion merger with Humana on antitrust grounds.
But Bates said this week the DOJ presented "persuasive support" -- including internal Aetna emails -- for the conclusion that Aetna (AET) withdrew from the Obamacare exchanges in those counties "to improve its litigation position."
"The Court does not credit the minimal efforts of Aetna executives to claim otherwise," Bates wrote in a ruling following a trial over the merger.
He added that Aetna's decision regarding participation in the 2017 exchanges in these counties was "in fact manipulated."

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"It is very likely that we would need to leave the public exchange business entirely...should our deal ultimately be blocked," Aetna CEO Mark Bertolini wrote in a letter to the DOJ last July

It still annoys me that Republicans have never been held accountable for being a major contributing factor in driving up premiums and killing off numerous start up insurers on the exchange when Rubio and friends gutted the re-insurance program.

It is a moment Democrats and Obama should of vehemently fought back on, made it a marquee fight and tried to claw back the narrative, but instead, seemingly did little if anything.



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« Reply #2431 on: January 24, 2017, 06:00:52 PM »
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i mean the real shade should be thrown at the guys not looking in that direction amirite
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edit: piers morgan is trash but this is still funny:

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« Reply #2433 on: January 24, 2017, 09:04:47 PM »
I actually respect Ted Cruz more than Grayson Allen.

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« Reply #2434 on: January 24, 2017, 09:55:51 PM »
What a pussy way to cop out of that little attempt to be clever, Deadspin. Somehow they did the impossible: Make Ted Cruz somewhat human.
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« Reply #2435 on: January 24, 2017, 10:17:19 PM »
Deadspin was part of Gawker, right? That certainly explains why they're acting like a bunch of obnoxious brats.

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« Reply #2436 on: January 24, 2017, 10:20:41 PM »
yeah, they keeping that Gawker tradition alive

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« Reply #2438 on: January 24, 2017, 10:50:46 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/23/progressives-launch-justice-democrats-to-counter-primary-corporate-legislators/

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Cenk Uygur, founder of the Young Turks video network that has become virally popular among progressive voters, is launching a project called Justice Democrats to defeat members of the Democratic Party who have cast votes seen as unacceptable.

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« Reply #2439 on: January 24, 2017, 10:59:46 PM »
Why did Cenk Uygur peak across the urinals?

Cuz there's nothing wrong with C U P








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« Reply #2441 on: January 24, 2017, 11:43:59 PM »
Musk has to somehow convince that fucking clown.

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« Reply #2443 on: January 24, 2017, 11:53:49 PM »
Make the feds available for the other 30,000 shootings this year.
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« Reply #2444 on: January 24, 2017, 11:56:15 PM »
Send in the National Guard to fight street violence, brehs.
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« Reply #2445 on: January 25, 2017, 12:17:18 AM »
That reminds me of this desk job I had earlier in my career where I literally did nothing maybe 99% of time and no one seemed to notice or care for a year or two.

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« Reply #2446 on: January 25, 2017, 12:42:39 AM »
Build a wall, call in the feds...how are you going to pay for all that realistically? Looks like the tax and spend republicans are back
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« Reply #2447 on: January 25, 2017, 01:33:24 AM »
Build a wall, call in the feds...how are you going to pay for all that realistically? Looks like the tax and spend republicans are back

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/01/25/netherlands-counters-trump-international-abortion-fund

I thought about this and the Wall talk about getting Mexico to pay for it and began to wonder if Trump was going to cut funding on things that could probably exist without federal funding, but namely the 'good feeling' stuff. The idea being that these select group of causes can survive without Uncle Sam, especially if the virtue signaling of funding them can be passed on to someone else. And the loss of that virtue doesn't matter to Trump because his supporters don't particularly care about or care for virtue signaling on these things.

Now that would free up money, but not enough for a Wall.

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« Reply #2448 on: January 25, 2017, 01:47:42 AM »
Build a wall, call in the feds...how are you going to pay for all that realistically? Looks like the tax and spend republicans are back

Letting the poor and sick die, per usual.


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« Reply #2450 on: January 25, 2017, 05:31:50 AM »
I know GAF isn't real life but reading the thread about the border wall (on which Trump wants to get the ball rolling today) I get the feeling some people are way too optimistic about the legislative branch willingness to outright antagonize the White House, especially this early. I mean they didn't make a fuss on all of the Cabinet confirmations. Yeah maybe the so called "fiscal conservatives" will get finicky with how the funding is setup (though as already said here, they can probably defund a lot of safety net and aid stuff and get cheered for it), but I don't think they'll stomp on this : I mean that's one of the core measures he was elected for.

Also I feel the hope that Trump would head a slacker presidency is fading fast. They seem to fire on all cylinders.
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« Reply #2451 on: January 25, 2017, 06:46:46 AM »
The gender wage gap is not a myth. It's not quite 78 cents on the dollar once you adjust for some factors, but it's not 1:1 either.

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« Reply #2454 on: January 25, 2017, 08:09:34 AM »
Build a wall, call in the feds...how are you going to pay for all that realistically? Looks like the tax and spend republicans are back

Mexicans pay for the wall, "thugs" pay for the guard, cooks pay for your food, it makes sense.
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« Reply #2456 on: January 25, 2017, 08:32:20 AM »
Why is Tucker Carlson's only facial expression that of a slightly confused dog?
i can't get enough of tucker and his being flabbergasted by at least one guest a night, thankfully this guy posts them all so i don't have to watch anything else from the show



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« Reply #2457 on: January 25, 2017, 09:52:06 AM »
They're still going on about this fucking inauguration shit? harrisonfordwhogivesashit.gif


I thought the important issue here was the super secret deep ties between Trump and Putin. What happened to that?

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« Reply #2458 on: January 25, 2017, 09:52:52 AM »
Why is Tucker Carlson's only facial expression that of a slightly confused dog?
i can't get enough of tucker and his being flabbergasted by at least one guest a night, thankfully this guy posts them all so i don't have to watch anything else from the show




Can they make those video stills any less flattering?  :doge
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Twilight in America
« Reply #2459 on: January 25, 2017, 09:56:56 AM »
The gender wage gap is not a myth. It's not quite 78 cents on the dollar once you adjust for some factors, but it's not 1:1 either.

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Fuck you.

Edit: here you go, fucker.

http://ftp.iza.org/dp9656.pdf

So the estimate from the most rigorous study done to date has it at 92 cents. And even if the remaining 8 cents really is a motherhood penalty instead of discrimination, that's still an issue that could be partly mitigated with policies like paid family leave and whatnot.


Fuck you? Fucker? Triggered all the way up to eleven much? :lol

First of all, it's not a wage gap but an income one. There's a huge difference.

Second, I don't need another 30 pages study.
There have been tons of these, including by independent academics, or even feminist institutions, and yes, there's a few cents left once all obvious factors (that are of course always completely ignored by the "muh 77 cents on the dollar for the same job" crew) are taken into account.
Every single one of these studies has discussed that what remain could be due to several other factors that are difficult to test or account for and it's basically impossible to determine whether or not there is any sort of discrimination.