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« Reply #3360 on: February 08, 2017, 05:36:38 PM »
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/318514-trump-admin-seen-as-more-truthful-than-news-media-poll

jfc  :stahp

Is not like people were not calling names at CNN because they were normalizing Trump.

Is stupid but is not anormal that people confuses bravado for honesty.

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« Reply #3361 on: February 08, 2017, 05:39:03 PM »

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« Reply #3362 on: February 08, 2017, 05:43:12 PM »
I'm guessing that's a William Klein or Mary Ellen Mark photo.

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« Reply #3363 on: February 08, 2017, 05:59:01 PM »
that kid's sweater is on point

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« Reply #3364 on: February 08, 2017, 06:08:34 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-nominee-gorsuch-says-trumps-attacks-on-judiciary-are-demoralizing/2017/02/08/64e03fe2-ee3f-11e6-9662-6eedf1627882_story.html?utm_term=.ca7c80104ff5&tid=notifi_push_breaking-news&pushid=breaking-news_1486603740#comments

 :woody :woody :woody

i swear... the fuckery has been never ending since trump got sworn in

i cant wait to see trump's response to this tho

will he turn against him? let's find out!

No, Gorsuch  can talk all he wants but at the end of the day he will be a good boy and make his sc decisions based on what will push Trump's agenda. Same with Graham, Ryan, Paul or any other republican that makes statements against him.

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« Reply #3365 on: February 08, 2017, 06:17:57 PM »
Yea I'm not following here, syph. Warren broke the rules, we know that. But you're complaining about process while a literal racist is about to become the Attorney General. Warren couldn't stop the nom whether she read the letter or not, it had no bearing on his confirmation assuming republicans vote by party line.

Yes there are all types of things "both parties" could do about issues that relate to black people. Surely one of them would be doing anything to prevent or delay the Department of Justice from being run by a racist who has spent most of his life obstructing black people from voting. There is no grandstanding here on the part of Warren or anyone else. She's not protesting his views on taxes or some frivolous political issue that can be debated civilly at a later time. She read a letter that pointed out Sessions spent a lot of time preventing old black people from voting. How is that not relevant to the matter at hand, and how was it not effective when the story is literally blowing up right now.

I make process arguments sometimes (see: Black Lives Matter protests). But for the life of me I can't understand focusing your outrage on people who are reacting to being pushed into a corner or oppressed.
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« Reply #3366 on: February 08, 2017, 06:47:22 PM »
Look guys, all I'm saying that there are victims on both side. On one side there's Jeff Sessions and Trump's feelings, on the other side is millions of people. See? Both sides.

Elizabeth Warren should know her place so she doesn't victimize poor Mr. Sessions.
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« Reply #3367 on: February 08, 2017, 06:47:30 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/supreme-court-nominee-gorsuch-says-trumps-attacks-on-judiciary-are-demoralizing/2017/02/08/64e03fe2-ee3f-11e6-9662-6eedf1627882_story.html?utm_term=.ca7c80104ff5&tid=notifi_push_breaking-news&pushid=breaking-news_1486603740#comments

 :woody :woody :woody

i swear... the fuckery has been never ending since trump got sworn in

i cant wait to see trump's response to this tho

will he turn against him? let's find out!

No, Gorsuch  can talk all he wants but at the end of the day he will be a good boy and make his sc decisions based on what will push Trump's agenda. Same with Graham, Ryan, Paul or any other republican that makes statements against him.

Is probably more damaging to him shit talk notorious thin skinned Trump than trying to avoid the filibuster.


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« Reply #3369 on: February 08, 2017, 07:36:38 PM »
Yea I'm not following here, syph. Warren broke the rules, we know that. But you're complaining about process while a literal racist is about to become the Attorney General. Warren couldn't stop the nom whether she read the letter or not, it had no bearing on his confirmation assuming republicans vote by party line.

Yes there are all types of things "both parties" could do about issues that relate to black people. Surely one of them would be doing anything to prevent or delay the Department of Justice from being run by a racist who has spent most of his life obstructing black people from voting. There is no grandstanding here on the part of Warren or anyone else. She's not protesting his views on taxes or some frivolous political issue that can be debated civilly at a later time. She read a letter that pointed out Sessions spent a lot of time preventing old black people from voting. How is that not relevant to the matter at hand, and how was it not effective when the story is literally blowing up right now.

I make process arguments sometimes (see: Black Lives Matter protests). But for the life of me I can't understand focusing your outrage on people who are reacting to being pushed into a corner or oppressed.
My complaint was admittedly quite narrow. I agree with everything you said except for the grandstanding. I'm not even really saying she shouldn't have read the letter, and again, I'm not disagreeing that it's relevant, I'm just saying Warren herself tweeting things like
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"I spoke out about @SenatorSessions – until @SenateMajLdr McConnell decided to silence me."
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"Tonight @SenateMajLdr silenced Mrs King's voice on the Sen floor - & millions who are afraid & appalled by what's happening in our country."
are meant to frame her as brave, and come off to me as disingenuous.

Again, I had an admittedly narrow complaint, and again, focused on Warren, and not on Sessions (who I dislike and do not support) or the relevancy of King's statements (which are enduringly relevant).


edit: apparently "enduringly" isn't a word...wat
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« Reply #3371 on: February 08, 2017, 07:50:20 PM »
Because he's  from West Virginia. Still won't help him, he probably loses in 2018

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« Reply #3372 on: February 08, 2017, 07:52:09 PM »
In neither of those tweets is she claiming to be brave. She is stating what happened. Think about why they come off as disengenuous to you.

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« Reply #3373 on: February 08, 2017, 08:21:58 PM »
*writes paragraphs complaining about Elizabeth Warren's methods for opposing Jeff Sessions*

"also I don't like Jeff Sessions either"

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« Reply #3375 on: February 08, 2017, 08:33:33 PM »
*writes paragraphs complaining about Elizabeth Warren's methods for opposing Jeff Sessions*

"also I don't like Jeff Sessions either"

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« Reply #3376 on: February 08, 2017, 08:38:45 PM »
also you are the white genocide guy

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« Reply #3377 on: February 08, 2017, 08:47:29 PM »
Syph, you're really not looking good here

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« Reply #3378 on: February 08, 2017, 09:03:21 PM »

We talking about process. Not a racist. Process.
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« Reply #3379 on: February 08, 2017, 09:21:09 PM »
Syph, you're really not looking good here

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guess you should censor me
sorry for taking the time to actually respond to people instead of just dismissing people's opinions as "hurr durr white genocide guy" (which again, feel free to check my post history to see if i've ever in my life used that phrase. spoilers: i havent)
ill be quiet then
enjoy the echo chamber

shout out to PD for a well-written response earlier
(and also a 10/10 gif response just now lol actually golden)

ciao
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« Reply #3380 on: February 08, 2017, 09:24:27 PM »
Why do you have anime Micheal Jackson for yours?

Syph

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« Reply #3381 on: February 08, 2017, 09:27:58 PM »
Then why do you have nazi icon Taylor Swift as your avatar?
shit i've been exposed
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« Reply #3382 on: February 08, 2017, 09:30:21 PM »
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/318514-trump-admin-seen-as-more-truthful-than-news-media-poll

jfc  :stahp


Corporate media have lost all credibility and that applies to both liberals and conservatives. Good.

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« Reply #3383 on: February 08, 2017, 09:37:50 PM »

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« Reply #3384 on: February 08, 2017, 09:45:53 PM »
Deadpool wishes he were a panda with nylon stockings over his face. 

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« Reply #3385 on: February 08, 2017, 09:54:32 PM »
interesting

id always thought that was some weird cockroach thing
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« Reply #3386 on: February 08, 2017, 10:13:52 PM »
Syph, you're really not looking good here

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guess you should censor me
sorry for taking the time to actually respond to people instead of just dismissing people's opinions as "hurr durr white genocide guy" (which again, feel free to check my post history to see if i've ever in my life used that phrase. spoilers: i havent)
ill be quiet then
enjoy the echo chamber

shout out to PD for a well-written response earlier
(and also a 10/10 gif response just now lol actually golden)

ciao

It's just kind of, I dunno.. others have pointed this out already. It's like, you're the token republican here and the senate just voted in a confirmed racist as attourney general, but the thing you take umbrage with is that Elizabeth Warren committed some technical infraction and then tweeted about it, which is so  :yeshrug

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« Reply #3387 on: February 08, 2017, 10:15:30 PM »
Deadpool wishes he were a panda with nylon stockings over his face.

I always assumed it was some sort of insect. Like a cricket in a top hat or something

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« Reply #3388 on: February 08, 2017, 10:45:58 PM »
Trump is going to try to implement racist policies and the Senate just handed the DOJ to an absolute racist. Did Warren fall on her sword as publicly as possible? Yes, because shaming racists is the one thing those silent majority types pay attention to.

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« Reply #3389 on: February 08, 2017, 10:55:16 PM »
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/house-democrats-trump-strategy-234815
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BALTIMORE — House Democrats have come here to regroup, reconnect and rally around a message to take back the House in 2018. Their political playbook already seems written, in fact, and it’s pretty simple: We’re not Donald Trump.
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If their plan sounds vaguely familiar, it is. House Democrats tried the same thing in the run-up to the 2016 election, tying House Republicans to whatever the Trump controversy du jour was, with dismal results. Democrats picked up only six House seats, despite predicting big gains for weeks ahead of the election. But Democratic leaders and aides think this time will be different and that if they play their cards right, the strategy could even help deliver them the double-digit wins they need to take back the House in 2018.
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The message, essentially “Let Trump be Trump,” is something Pelosi has been preaching for months. During the campaign, she repeatedly referred to him as “the gift that keeps on giving,” predicting he would hand Republicans huge losses in both the House and Senate.
After the election sent Democrats licking their wounds and questioning their longtime House leadership regime, Pelosi again renewed her declarations about Trump as a pitch for why the caucus should keep her in power for at least two more years.
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Democratic aides say they will eventually shift to a positive economic message that Rust Belt Democrats can run on. But for now, aides say, the focus is on slaying the giant and proving to the voters who sent Trump into the White House why his policies will fail.
House Democrats’ strategy is basically this: They’ll publicly goad Trump on subjects he’s clearly sensitive about, like insinuating he’s being blackmailed by Russian President Vladimir Putin; and on other issues, like Obamacare and tax reform, they’ll get out of the way and let Trump and House Republicans fall on their face.

 :snoop :snoop :snoop :snoop :snoop :snoop

The dems really might fuck this up

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« Reply #3390 on: February 08, 2017, 11:03:39 PM »
This place is only an echo chamber if you think disagreement between better and best is not disagreement.

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« Reply #3391 on: February 08, 2017, 11:15:24 PM »
Because he's  from West Virginia. Still won't help him, he probably loses in 2018

We elected a Democratic governor. A billionaire, coal-mine company owning Democrat.

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« Reply #3393 on: February 09, 2017, 03:09:27 AM »
:snoop :snoop :snoop :snoop :snoop :snoop

The dems really might fuck this up
Dems gonna Dem. :ufup :trash
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« Reply #3394 on: February 09, 2017, 03:39:59 AM »


 :snoop :snoop :snoop :snoop :snoop :snoop

The dems really might fuck this up

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House Democrats’ strategy is basically this: They’ll publicly goad Trump on subjects he’s clearly sensitive about, like insinuating he’s being blackmailed by Russian President Vladimir Putin; and on other issues, like Obamacare and tax reform, they’ll get out of the way and let Trump and House Republicans fall on their face.


Second time's the charm!

They don't have an economic plan because they're still planning on marginalizing Sanders, you know, just like they did before the election. What a disaster of a party, Jesus Christ.

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« Reply #3395 on: February 09, 2017, 07:19:42 AM »
The rule she "broke" was that you can't be critical of a fellow senator.

If there were a time and a place for that rule to apply, it shouldn't be the debate for the nomination of said senator for a different position.  :idont

Just making sure people saw this. I'm seeing a few posts here that are acknowledging she broke the rules, but. . .

The rule doesn't make any sense, shouldn't apply, and was selectively applied.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/02/a-brief-history-of-the-senate-rule-that-silenced-elizabeth-warren/516042/

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« Reply #3396 on: February 09, 2017, 09:09:58 AM »
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/house-democrats-trump-strategy-234815
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BALTIMORE — House Democrats have come here to regroup, reconnect and rally around a message to take back the House in 2018. Their political playbook already seems written, in fact, and it’s pretty simple: We’re not Donald Trump.
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If their plan sounds vaguely familiar, it is. House Democrats tried the same thing in the run-up to the 2016 election, tying House Republicans to whatever the Trump controversy du jour was, with dismal results. Democrats picked up only six House seats, despite predicting big gains for weeks ahead of the election. But Democratic leaders and aides think this time will be different and that if they play their cards right, the strategy could even help deliver them the double-digit wins they need to take back the House in 2018.
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The message, essentially “Let Trump be Trump,” is something Pelosi has been preaching for months. During the campaign, she repeatedly referred to him as “the gift that keeps on giving,” predicting he would hand Republicans huge losses in both the House and Senate.
After the election sent Democrats licking their wounds and questioning their longtime House leadership regime, Pelosi again renewed her declarations about Trump as a pitch for why the caucus should keep her in power for at least two more years.
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Democratic aides say they will eventually shift to a positive economic message that Rust Belt Democrats can run on. But for now, aides say, the focus is on slaying the giant and proving to the voters who sent Trump into the White House why his policies will fail.
House Democrats’ strategy is basically this: They’ll publicly goad Trump on subjects he’s clearly sensitive about, like insinuating he’s being blackmailed by Russian President Vladimir Putin; and on other issues, like Obamacare and tax reform, they’ll get out of the way and let Trump and House Republicans fall on their face.

 :snoop :snoop :snoop :snoop :snoop :snoop

The dems really might fuck this up

So basically the Hillary playbook of having no plans but just going with "I am not that other guy"

I am sure that this time around it will work. Why bother having an actual plans for anything when the opponent is the Devil.

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« Reply #3397 on: February 09, 2017, 09:36:40 AM »
from the WaPo frontpage

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Trump once described China as an "enemy." But this week, he sent a letter to Xi Jinping, saying he wanted to "develop a constructive relationship," according to the White House. Trump also wished China a happy lunar new year — 11 days late.

:rofl

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I mean... do WaPo journos only wish people a happy new year on Jan. 1st?

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« Reply #3398 on: February 09, 2017, 10:09:20 AM »
from the WaPo frontpage

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Trump once described China as an "enemy." But this week, he sent a letter to Xi Jinping, saying he wanted to "develop a constructive relationship," according to the White House. Trump also wished China a happy lunar new year — 11 days late.

:rofl

the best negotiator


I mean... do WaPo journos only wish people a happy new year on Jan. 1st?
I got a Happy New Year from someone just yesterday.  That one did strike me as a bit late though.


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« Reply #3400 on: February 09, 2017, 01:35:59 PM »
Lmao @ Trump accusing other people of wussing out of Vietnam and bashing McCain for being critical of a military action

:neogaf
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« Reply #3402 on: February 09, 2017, 03:11:58 PM »
https://twitter.com/missmayn/status/829590447467032577?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

I was about to post that, smh.
How much do I have to pay to upgrade to the Baghdadi version tho.
All these features for a monthly subscription of a few billions dollars?
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« Reply #3403 on: February 09, 2017, 03:44:59 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/conway-may-have-broken-key-ethics-rule-by-touting-ivanka-trumps-products-experts-say/2017/02/09/fd1cc64a-eeda-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.1f744534a3bf
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Conway, speaking to “Fox & Friends” viewers from the White House briefing room, was responding to boycotts of Ivanka Trump merchandise and Nordstrom’s discontinuation of stocking her clothing and shoe lines, which the retailer said was in response to low sales and which the president assailed as unfair.

“I’m going to give it a free commercial here,” Conway said of the president’s daughter’s merchandise brand. “Go buy it today.”

Yeah...I don't see how she could possibly think this was a good idea
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« Reply #3404 on: February 09, 2017, 03:54:02 PM »
Trump probably told her to do it. Is not like she had any shame left.

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« Reply #3405 on: February 09, 2017, 03:54:47 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/conway-may-have-broken-key-ethics-rule-by-touting-ivanka-trumps-products-experts-say/2017/02/09/fd1cc64a-eeda-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.1f744534a3bf
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Conway, speaking to “Fox & Friends” viewers from the White House briefing room, was responding to boycotts of Ivanka Trump merchandise and Nordstrom’s discontinuation of stocking her clothing and shoe lines, which the retailer said was in response to low sales and which the president assailed as unfair.

“I’m going to give it a free commercial here,” Conway said of the president’s daughter’s merchandise brand. “Go buy it today.”

Yeah...I don't see how she could possibly think this was a good idea

Who knows, maybe we'll never know.  :trumps
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« Reply #3406 on: February 09, 2017, 03:55:58 PM »
I kind of suspect that they know they're going to get sacked eventually so might as well go all in. :trumps
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« Reply #3407 on: February 09, 2017, 04:15:26 PM »
I kind of suspect that they know they're going to get sacked eventually so might as well go all in. :trumps

The party is more concerned about defending the feelings of racist senators and throwing bones to mega donors.

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« Reply #3408 on: February 09, 2017, 04:48:44 PM »
I don't support Bannon for IS leadership either. Why change horses in midstream? Besides, both are doing a fine job fucking up the world together, right where they are now.
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« Reply #3409 on: February 09, 2017, 05:39:18 PM »
I kind of suspect that they know they're going to get sacked eventually so might as well go all in. :trumps


 Are you talking politics, or people who believe the end of the world is coming?

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« Reply #3410 on: February 09, 2017, 06:22:35 PM »
Maybe insulting the entire judiciary wasn't such a bright idea, Trumplestiltskin.


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« Reply #3411 on: February 09, 2017, 06:34:07 PM »
Appeals court in San Francisco upheld the suspension of Trump's travel ban:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/us-appeals-court-trump-travel-ban
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« Reply #3412 on: February 09, 2017, 06:41:57 PM »
His statements (tweets) about it being a "muslim ban" are called out in the ruling.

Whoopsie.

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« Reply #3414 on: February 09, 2017, 06:43:07 PM »
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/829836231802515457

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« Reply #3415 on: February 09, 2017, 06:46:48 PM »
What a fuckin loser
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« Reply #3416 on: February 09, 2017, 07:00:14 PM »
Arguments being heard now about the immigration EO.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=229876370&postcount=864

This post didn't leave me with a lot of confidence about what comes next.  We'll see.

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Trump is going to end up winning on this. I've read both sides, its not even close.

remind me to never get a libertarian lawyer
lol everyone expected this
wait till the SCOTUS
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« Reply #3417 on: February 09, 2017, 07:04:06 PM »
https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/829832294923902981/photo/1
snitch on yourself brehs

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« Reply #3419 on: February 09, 2017, 07:23:26 PM »
It's his right. Who cares.
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