US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Mandark]

That's such a completely dishonest response that I will enjoy the other halfwits pretending this is a conversation.

You can read the law for yourself if you want. "Sexual orientation" is right there in paragraph 2.

Do you think the sit-ins at segregated diners in the early 60's were done with the goal of shaming short-order cooks?

[etiolate]

They weren't denied service. They were denied a message on their cake.  That is normal. It was taken to social media and made a cause. This was not about rights.

Perhaps the fact that this has resulted in copycat attempts says something about the identity politics nature of the event:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/05/16/gay-pastor-admits-he-faked-homophobic-slur-on-whole-foods-cake/?utm_term=.b3fa3835c7f3

But I am not really engaging you as though you're anything but a dishonest sack of shit.

[etiolate]

here's some more fun

http://time.com/3772884/colorado-baker-refuses-anti-gay-cakes/

A Colorado government agency has ruled that a baker who refused to make cakes featuring anti-gay messages did not discriminate against the man who requested them.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Bakersfield-baker-who-turned-away-lesbian-couple-12559821.php

As the U.S. Supreme Court ponders a baker’s refusal to prepare a wedding cake for a gay couple, a California judge has ruled that the owner of a Bakersfield bakery had a free-speech right to turn away a lesbian couple who wanted a cake to celebrate their marriage.

The court rulings are all silly. The trend is stunt making. News creation. Identity politics based tribalism. Exhibited to the public which then becomes repulsed with the whole thing.

If you want anything more on this then you're bitch ass has to pay.

[Mandark]

They weren't denied service. They were denied a message on their cake.

Ah.

So you're saying if the baker refused to sell them any wedding cake, that would be an issue of rights? But since this was about a specific message they wanted on the cake, that's a first amendment issue for the baker.

[warcock]

Progressivism (Image removed from quote.)

Treating humans with respect regardless of their race, sexuality, or identity (Image removed from quote.)

Sharing the wealth (Image removed from quote.)

Being against kids getting gunned down en masse every week (Image removed from quote.)

A woman's right to choose (Image removed from quote.)

Universal health care (Image removed from quote.)

:^)

A lot of those things are just normal in most industrialized nations, it's ridiculous that what is supposed to be the leftist party here barely even fights for them.

America really fucking sucks was one of my first realization when immigrating from up north, which is why i have lost all patience with democrats arguing otherwise.

[etiolate]

So you're saying


Please clean your teeth with broken glass.

I am speaking to the nature of the event, the tactic and everything I've already said.

[Mandark]

You're saying that the baker refused specifically because of the message they wanted on the cake, and that if the baker had denied them any wedding cake, then that would have been different?

I have this right?

[kingv]

I just want to live in a country, where if I print out a picture of gostse.cx, and go to a bakery, they are obligated to try to recreate that image on the cake if I ask.

[benjipwns]

There’s that. But the fact that the left want people who are illegal and go around border security for votes shows exactly who they are. Are their interests in the American people? Nah. Meanwhile, the right stance secures borders. When you’ve got mayors doing illegal acts like warning illegals that ICE is coming and commit treason, the gig is up.

[Phoenix Dark]

The group is there for protection and dispersal of accountability.

And yet you can't see how white supremacy and the political strategies/systems it has created qualify?
 

[CatsCatsCats]

I like how et freaks out when Mandy simply asks to clarify his stance

[thehunter116]

Supposedly well-meaning liberals that claim to be progressive but actually want much of nothing to do with minorities are a big problem.

I can agree with this. Which begs the question: What can be done to get those people on board?

Nothing. You can't do shit. As long as capitalism at this state exists and the poverty cycle remains the same and continues to plague the black race they will always be considered a lower caste even by the liberal fucks that pretend to be better than everyone else.

If anything the obsession with race through SJ W rhetoric has increased hostility and clearly worsened tribalism the last few years. There's another aspect to this, political correctness forces liberals to create a fake persona and therefore masks racism and keeps people different than them at arms length. And I will explain this by being a lazy fuck and letting this great video I watched of Zizek recently make my point:

The fuck are you smoking?

Neither one of us is defending Trump you fucking distinguished mentally-challenged fellow. Why do you morons always think that people must be on "the enemy side" when they disagree with your bullshit? And lol at the idea that the carcass of the tea party was responsible for this clusterfuck.

I mean...you did defend the Russia "nothingburger" that is surprisingly tasty for being nothing. 

[thehunter116]

Identity politics has indeed increased the tribalism. You got to be distinguished mentally-challenged to argue against that.

I don't disagree.

But certain "tribes" *cough* confederates *cough* should have been stamped out. Now we have to fight stupid fights when we shouldn't have to be.

Agreed.

The Southern Strategy, the moral majority, Rush Limbaugh, and the rise of Trump style populism are near the top of the most cancerous aspects of American identity politics we have had in the last half century in terms of poisoning American politics.

Case and point.

"white people" is a stupid identity to have. Not because you can't have a culture but because "white person" has evolved to include german, irish, poles, swedes, slavics and other "non white" white people over the years. It's an excuse to be racist really; ironic since it is the racist one's arguing we should stop the identity politics since they were the one's who started it all those years ago.

A beautiful case of losing the game you made. 

[Phoenix Dark]

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/12/17100496/political-correctness-data

May the lord forgive me for linking Vox but
:trollbron

[benjipwns]

[LBJ] was fond of telling a story about a Mexican boy sitting on a curb in Alice, Texas with tears rolling down his face: "A passerby asked, 'Son, are you hurt' The boy said, 'No, I no hurt.' ... 'Are you sick?' 'No, I no sick.' ... 'Are you hungry?' 'No, I no hungry.'  ... 'Well, what's the matter? What are you crying for?' 'Yesterday, my papa, he been dead four years, yesterday he come back and voted for Lyndon Johnson, didn't come by to say hello or see me.'"

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...but all the way for LBJ!

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[warcock]

yo polispergs your useless knowledge might be actually interesting for once
can we get fight metrics on trump and biden?

[Phoenix Dark]

Trump grew up wealthy and has probably never fought anyone except his ex wife. Biden grew up poor in Scranton. I'm gonna assume Biden would wash Trump without any trouble.

[thehunter116]

He wants to bring back coke fiend Mark Kasocwiz.

 

[Assimilate]

Trump grew up wealthy and has probably never fought anyone except his ex wife. Biden grew up poor in Scranton. I'm gonna assume Biden would wash Trump without any trouble.

Yeah but Biden is brittle. Trump is a pretty big guy.

[zomgee]

FOR YOU

[Phoenix Dark]

((((pause))))

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/976765417908776963

 

[Steve Contra]

Identity Politics would have been a cool name for a Face/Off + Bourne crossover action movie.

I love you.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Trump has the wingspan, but he famously loathes exercise and fighting is extremely exhausting. If Biden has done any cardio in the last decade Trump would get washed after 45 seconds

[Cream]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/976765417908776963

 

Literally “what did you say about me you little bitch”ing

[Tasty]

Identity Politics would have been a cool name for a Face/Off + Bourne crossover action movie.

I love you.

<3

[Nintex]

Trump has the wingspan, but he famously loathes exercise and fighting is extremely exhausting. If Biden has done any cardio in the last decade Trump would get washed after 45 seconds

Trump is a WWE Hall of Famer though. 

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

You'll are idiots if you think Biden has any chance against Trump.





Biden, publicly apologize and admit Trump is the stronger man or you can kiss your life goodbye.

[Nintex]

In the left CORNER The Undefeated, The UnStumped, DONALD JOHN TRUMP


In the Right Corner. The Challenger. The one and only shining DIAMOND JOE BIDEN


LET'S GET READY TO RUMMBBLEEEE!!!

"What's Wrong Joe? Forgot to Bring your guns? Now that's a shame"

[Nintex]

 

https://twitter.com/charliespiering/status/976908611879399425

prepare for war bois

[seagrams hotsauce]

Vince McMahon's selling skills are mad underrated, dawg.

Meanwhile the doughy motherfucker who runs the world somehow sells a stunner worse than his shitty fuckin' steaks

[Brehvolution]

Joe won't be bringing any of the fake shit.

[benjipwns]

Vince McMahon's selling skills are mad underrated, dawg.

Meanwhile the doughy motherfucker who runs the world somehow sells a stunner worse than his shitty fuckin' steaks
(Image removed from quote.)

The more likely explanation is that it simply didn't faze him as if he was a weakling college intellectual social studies major.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

 

[Mandark]

I like how et freaks out when Mandy simply asks to clarify his stance

https://twitter.com/dsquareddigest/status/841296837512433666

[benjipwns]

coincidentally "posting hentai gets you banned" is why Eric Trump isn't allowed to use the Trump Tower wifi anymore

[benjipwns]

network admin Barron gave him quite the lecture i heard

[Tasty]

What about yaoi?

[Nintex]

 

Trump is the most hilarious president.

No one will ever take that away from him and George Bush was quite a good comedian himself.

[Nintex]

 
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/976948306927607810

 

[Mandark]

[nudemacusers]

What better way to engender loyalty for a potential cross examination 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/MicahZenko/status/976950368595795968

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/976955650667417600
 

[Phoenix Dark]

@etoilet

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/976957256771276801

[Great Rumbler]

We truly are in the darkest timeline.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/976962163767160832

 

[Phoenix Dark]

brehs


you've got to be shitting me

[benjipwns]

This wouldn't be happening if black people voted Republican.

[benjipwns]

Ralph Peters is probably contemplating suicide now.

[El Babua]

Don't worry, Trump will drain him of anything that made him dangerous and he'll leave the administration a shell of himself like the rest 

[benjipwns]

This is probably just part of Trump's nineteenth dimensional backgammon negotiations with Kim Jong Un, he goes guess I'll let John handle this...and then...

  WORLD PEACE

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[thehunter116]

  Bolton

[kingv]

@etoilet

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/976957256771276801

There's not enough bits to Moscow!!!111

[agrajag]

@etoilet

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/976957256771276801

But Seth Rich doe

[TakingBackSunday]

We're definitely going to bomb Iran aren't we

[etiolate]

@etoilet

https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/976957256771276801

hearsay until real proof is shown

If the character was made hastily then it doesn't even make sense for Russia to do so. It makes more sense to be created as a hoax.

Though it's worth noting that wikileaks denied Guccifer 2 being the source.

[Mandark]

They weren't denied service. They were denied a message on their cake.  That is normal.

A Supreme Court Clash Between Artistry And The Rights Of Gay Couples (NPR)

In this case, Jack Phillips argues that the couple could have bought any pre-made cake in the bakery's cooler, but he was not willing to use his artistry as a cake creator to further a cause he is opposed to, namely gay marriage.

...

All agree there was no discussion of any writing on the cake or its design. The message, Waggoner contends, is the fact that this is a cake announcing a same-sex wedding.

Even if Mullins and Craig wanted a simple three-tiered white cake without writing, the First Amendment protects Jack Phillips' artistic and religious right not to create it, she argues.

Supreme Court brief on the case

In July 2012, Craig and Mullins visited Masterpiece, a bakery in Lakewood, Colorado, and requested that Phillips design and create a cake to celebrate their same-sex wedding. Phillips declined, telling them that he does not create wedding cakes for same-sex weddings because of his religious beliefs, but advising Craig and Mullins that he would be happy to make and sell them any other baked goods. Craig and Mullins promptly left Masterpiece without discussing with Phillips any details of their wedding cake. The following day, Craig’s mother, Deborah Munn, called Phillips, who advised her that Masterpiece did not make wedding cakes for same-sex weddings because of his religious beliefs and because Colorado did not recognize same-sex marriages.

[Great Rumbler]

Though it's worth noting that wikileaks denied Guccifer 2 being the source.

Is it really, though?

[Phoenix Dark]

https://www.emptywheel.net/2018/03/22/the-daily-beast-guccifer-scoop-and-those-gru-officers-sanctioned-last-week/

hmmm

And tomorrow the DOJ is announcing some new cyber crimes charges.