US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[TVC15]

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1032030337738698752

HE STOLE MY BAD JOKE!

[agrajag]

The president cannot be indicted?

According to a long-standing DOJ policy, no.

[Nintex]

The president cannot be indicted?

Rudy made this point before as well (that source is probably Rudy anyway).
A President can be impeached by 2/3 of congress or removed through a cabinet vote.

However, Trump's cabinet is ... well yeah. And congress, depends entirely on the GOP.

[shosta]

Nintex got me watching cable news

[agrajag]

The only person this congress is impeaching is Rod Rosenstein

[shosta]

That's all this is? 250k in hush money over the prostitute stuff?

[Nintex]

That's all this is? 250k in hush money over the prostitute stuff?

Yup, somehow I don't think that's going to sink Trump but it would be the most Trump thing ever if it did.

[Boredfrom]

That's all this is? 250k in hush money over the prostitute stuff?

?

He just admited that it was Trump the one telling him to do it...

[curly]

Hunter's seat was safe R but I'm reading they won't be able to replace him on the ballot. *eyes emoji*

I live in the district and it was already getting more attention from national Dem politicians and groups than you would expect for a safe seat because Hunter is so obviously corrupt and a moron who inherited the seat from his dad. The Democratic candidate is Mexican/Palestinian and his grandfather was a PLO leader during the Munich Massacre so highly likely Hunter starts race-baiting as his whole brand is build-the-wall and being extremely pro-military.

[Mandark]

Just looked up the 2016 MI results. 50-50 popular vote and a 63-47 split in the statehouse.

Has anyone compiled a list of partisan districting advantage for state legislatures?

http://gerrymander.princeton.edu/tests/ has some evaluations

Thank you!

edit: sheesh, looking at the IA/MN/WI/MI state legislatures

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/LannyDavis/status/1032026098320789504

[shosta]

The first video is just a random, personable video of Michael Cohen.

Wait, Omarosa shared this specifically because "America is demonizing him". Chris Matthews visibly annoyed at this waste of time

[Joe Molotov]

The first video is just a random, personable video of Michael Cohen.

Wait, Omarosa shared this specifically because "America is demonizing him". Chris Matthews visibly annoyed at this waste of time

You're watching cable news, clearly you don't value your time.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/hardball/status/1032042737552580610
 

Alex Jones weighs in
https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/1032042775259295744

[Mandark]

The president cannot be indicted?

The issue isn't settled, but a bunch of people in legal professions believe this. The idea is it prevents people bogging down the president by selectively overprosecuting shit for political purposes (Brazil might be an example of this currently), especially since the whole process is so slow and such a drain on time and attention. Plus the Constitution provides for impeachment.

This is partly why some people expect Mueller to release a report if he believes Trump has committed any crimes. Mary Wheeler (whose opinions I steal wholesale on these matters) has been saying that Mueller could just include accusations against Trump in the indictments/pleas of other defendants, which is what just happened with Cohen.

[shosta]

You're watching cable news, clearly you don't value your time.

Honestly I should have known better than to listen to Nintex hype.

[shosta]

LOL, THEY TOOK HER OFF THE PROGRAM DURING THE AD BREAK

Omarosa sucks waste of everyone's time

Also this one isn't your fault but, still, fuck you Nintex.

[agrajag]

If she had some fucking smoking gun evidence you think she'd present it to the court or to Chris Matthews?

[Nintex]

OP Omarosa failed. The 4D chess barrier is breaking. 

To be fair to Mueller, I don't think he expected to find hush payments to porn stars made with campaign funds by Cohen to cover up affairs which happened during the pregnancy of Trump's wife when he started this investigation.

 

[shosta]

Shit, dude, I thought we'd get something juicy at least, but it was just her trying to get into Michael Cohen's pants. Lol.

[Nintex]

Shit, dude, I thought we'd get something juicy at least, but it was just her trying to get into Michael Cohen's pants. Lol.

I think the integrity issues of Omarosa that kelly mentioned weren't really... well based on her taping conversations she shouldn't (he probably didn't know that). 

[agrajag]

She tried to get into Piers Morgan's pants, allegedly. It's just what she does.

[curly]

https://twitter.com/dhm/status/1032040029051400192

[Nintex]

In Kelly's book we will read that he walked in on her and The Mooch that one day Mooch worked at the WH. 


https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1032043997286543361

 

[benjipwns]

If [Omarosa] had some fucking smoking gun evidence you think she'd present it to the court or to Chris Matthews?

Chris Matthews 101 times out of 100.

[Mr Gilhaney]

https://twitter.com/lib_crusher/status/1032029043439398917

could at least buy something better than 5 dollar games. like some cs:go gloves.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1032045095707701248

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1032048726297194496

 

[Atramental]

https://www.drudgereport.com/

[Nintex]

He's kinda bombing at the rally which is one of the first that is aired on a lot of channels because of all today's happenings. Omarosa was a dud. Rudy is not yet on TV and Alex Jones seems to really be losing it over this.

The wheels are coming off the MAGA train 

[agrajag]

well if Nintex's faith in Trump has been shaken..

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1032053604327337985

He's now openly asking people to find the collusion.

"Human traffickers are the worst in the world it's ever been and it's because of the internet" 

[Mandark]

I get that after 2016 a lot of people are mistrustful of polls and think Trump is teflon, but since he's been in office all he's done is get rolled and cost his party seats in special elections.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1032055906790514688

This is history in the making 

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Even the Q train is derailing

 

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[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1032055906790514688

This is history in the making 

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Even the Q train is derailing

 

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[Mandark]

Nintex tryna get in on the Q ridicule like we won't remember him saying it was 50% real.

[Nintex]

Nintex tryna get in on the Q ridicule like we won't remember him saying it was 50% real.

Maybe I'm Q
 

[Mandark]

Your posts aren't right anywhere close to 50% of the time.

[kingv]

That's all this is? 250k in hush money over the prostitute stuff?

I think there’s people on the Donald less forgiving of Donald trump than you are.

He committed a couple of felonies.

[shosta]

I didn't say they weren't felonies

[benjipwns]

I get that after 2016 a lot of people are mistrustful of polls and think Trump is teflon, but since he's been in office all he's done is get rolled and cost his party seats in special elections.

I admit I pretty much assumed his job approval would be more like -20 still, not stabilize/improve.

[thehunter116]

https://twitter.com/selectedwisdom/status/1032050624895086592

[kingv]

I didn't say they weren't felonies

It just goes to show how much we grade trump on a scale.

Bill Clinton got a free blowjob and it was a huge scandal. Trump pays off pornstars while his wife is pregnant and enters a conspiracy to cover the crime and were like “well, it’s Tuesday”.

[Great Rumbler]

I didn't say they weren't felonies

It just goes to show how much we grade trump on a scale.

Bill Clinton got a free blowjob and it was a huge scandal. Trump pays off pornstars while his wife is pregnant and enters a conspiracy to cover the crime and were like “well, it’s Tuesday”.

Yeah, but it's not evidence of him literally killing someone while praising Allah, so it's really not that big of a deal.

[Mandark]

I get that after 2016 a lot of people are mistrustful of polls and think Trump is teflon, but since he's been in office all he's done is get rolled and cost his party seats in special elections.

I admit I pretty much assumed his job approval would be more like -20 still, not stabilize/improve.

I was hoping it would stay that low but I'm not terribly surprised. No new major ground wars*, very low unemployment and reasonable gas prices. Conservative media's rallied around him and he's caved to the orthodox GOP position on everything except tariffs, which normal people don't care much about.

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The fact I have to add all those qualifiers to distinguish between acts of war and acts of war that register with the electorate is kinda depressing.

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[thehunter116]

https://twitter.com/petersuderman/status/1032059129819525120
https://twitter.com/dogcrap69/status/1032048722228600832
 

[benjipwns]

It just goes to show how much we grade trump on a scale.

Bill Clinton got a free blowjob and it was a huge scandal. Trump pays off pornstars while his wife is pregnant and enters a conspiracy to cover the crime and were like “well, it’s Tuesday”.

We can also frame these two situations in an entirely different yet still accurate way. Clinton committed perjury and obstruction of justice in a sexual harassment case elevated to federal investigation. "Paying off pornstars while your wife is pregnant" isn't the alleged crime probably because it's not inherently a crime.

I think it's a mistake to try and make any affairs the supposed scandals or any kind of focus.

[benjipwns]

Salad Tossing Shitspaghetti should be the name on the indictment.

[Joe Molotov]

Salad Tossing Shitspaghetti should be the name on the indictment.

When they came to arrest him, it was like that Ron White bit. "Are you Duncan Hunter, aka Blue Fission, aka Jew Fission, aka Salad Tossing Shitspaghetti, aka..."

[benjipwns]

https://www.weeklystandard.com/stephen-f-hayes/rand-paul-russian-stooge

In arguing for leniency on Putin’s Russia, Paul invoked Ronald Reagan’s nuclear talks with Mikhail Gorbachev, whom he met during his recent visit. Trump needs to buck the remnants of Cold War orthodoxy if he’s to have any hope of forging better relations with Russia, Paul argues. This means, first, rejecting the kind of punitive measures favored by the hawks in both political parties. And, second, it means ignoring the kinds of criticism that Ronald Reagan got for his meetings with Mikhail Gorbachev. To make his point, Paul turns to his favorite villain: the neocons.

“For Reagan and Gorbachev to come together, Reagan had to defy some neoconservative criticism, the Bill Kristols and a whole, you know, ah, group of the neoconservatives who criticized Reagan for talking to Gorbachev. Reagan had to rise above that, rise out of the orthodoxy of the Cold War to meet with Gorbachev.”

Set aside the rather significant fact that no one was more responsible for the “orthodoxy of the Cold War” than Ronald Reagan. Ignore the fact that the Cold War “orthodoxy” Paul rejects—the kind of confrontational rhetoric Reagan preferred and the aggressive anti-Communist policies that defined his foreign policy—gave the United States precisely those advantages that allowed diplomacy to succeed. And focus instead on Bill Kristol.

Bill Kristol wasn’t leading criticism of Ronald Reagan’s foreign policy in the 1980s. He was working in Reagan’s administration.

o snap

[shosta]

It just goes to show how much we grade trump on a scale.

Bill Clinton got a free blowjob and it was a huge scandal. Trump pays off pornstars while his wife is pregnant and enters a conspiracy to cover the crime and were like “well, it’s Tuesday”.

Congratulations, asshole, you really pissed me off with this post. I don't know why you insist on caricaturing me over and over when my posts are perfectly clear on how I feel. Are you actually binning me with the other thoughtless trendoids who dragged this country through disgrace over some sexual misconduct?

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like Christopher Hitchens

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[Mandark]

Rand Paul acting like sanctions are the new Cuban missile crisis and he's saving the world.

Boy go back to endorsing child molesters and getting stomped out for bad lawn care.

[shosta]

wtf, thehunter is back

Wait... TheHunter... Duncan Hunter...

[thehunter116]

wtf, thehunter is back

Wait... TheHunter... Duncan Hunter...

 

[agrajag]

The hunter came back to stick it to Jay Dubya who doesn't post in this thread and etiolate who, well..

[thehunter116]

The hunter came back to stick it to Jay Dubya who doesn't post in this thread and etiolate who, well..

Someone's gotta tell the imaginary shit stains to go fuck themselves.

Also I felt the urge to finally re log in here after lurking for a bit.

[thehunter116]

thehunter is back

 

Finally another poster here worth reading.

Lies, the only poster worth his salt is Benji.

[thehunter116]

benji is a couple thousand lines of garbage computer code written by a garbage human.

He's Cohen's Blackberry?

[Tasty]

https://twitter.com/jsmooth995/status/1032070108443762688

[Phoenix Dark]

The president cannot be indicted?

The issue isn't settled, but a bunch of people in legal professions believe this. The idea is it prevents people bogging down the president by selectively overprosecuting shit for political purposes (Brazil might be an example of this currently), especially since the whole process is so slow and such a drain on time and attention. Plus the Constitution provides for impeachment.

This is partly why some people expect Mueller to release a report if he believes Trump has committed any crimes. Mary Wheeler (whose opinions I steal wholesale on these matters) has been saying that Mueller could just include accusations against Trump in the indictments/pleas of other defendants, which is what just happened with Cohen.

Her argument is basically that Trump can be named as an un-indicted conspirator in a crime, and points to some of the framing of Mueller's indictments so far. For instance the one where it notes the hacks began shortly after the candidate asked for Russians to hack Hillary in a public speech.

[Tasty]