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I know the US wants to appeal to a broader audience with their products.
Especially now that the Transformers have done really well in China.

But China-ing up GULF WAR III: OPERATION PERSIAN FREEDOM wouild be a bad idea imo.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #26657 on:** November 24, 2018, 10:37:06 AM »

Quote from: shosta on November 23, 2018, 11:33:24 PM

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1066080100658147328

Sure, it sounds great, but what are the downsides?

Tripon · « **Reply #26658 on:** November 24, 2018, 10:39:52 AM »

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1066351594843844608

kingv · « **Reply #26659 on:** November 24, 2018, 02:21:55 PM »

https://twitter.com/kokomothegreat/status/1066229857032593408

They need to bring the rappers back to the White House.

China is interesting. I work with a lot of Chinese people, and I talk to them about this stuff occasionally, and they’re USF like “yeah, Chinese people don’t really care about this concept of privacy the way Americans do”.

They told me some stories, but I’m not sure I could relay them 100% accurately.

curly · « **Reply #26660 on:** November 24, 2018, 03:49:55 PM »

I've gotten a bit sick of the show but that was one of the funniest bits they've done.

Nintex · « **Reply #26661 on:** November 24, 2018, 08:21:13 PM »

Quote from: kingv on November 24, 2018, 02:21:55 PM

https://twitter.com/kokomothegreat/status/1066229857032593408

They need to bring the rappers back to the White House.

All Trump is doing is ensuring that after this pesidency an inquisition will start against trolls and sarcasm will be outlawed.
The day after he's out of office a thread on 4chan or wherever will pop up:

"I trolled the entire planet LMAO"

benjipwns · « **Reply #26662 on:** November 24, 2018, 09:40:22 PM »

Quote from: shosta on November 23, 2018, 11:33:24 PM

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1066080100658147328

Elections to the 14th National People's Congress will be in 2022-23, Bill.

benjipwns · « **Reply #26663 on:** November 25, 2018, 12:39:48 AM »

Memos to Nobody: Inside the work of a neglected fed agency

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Mark Robbins gets to work at 8:15 each morning and unlocks the door to his office suite. He switches on the lights and the TV news, brews a pot of coffee and pulls out the first files of the day to review.

For the next eight hours or so, he reads through federal workplace disputes, analyzes the cases, marks them with notes and logs his legal opinions. When he’s finished, he slips the files into a cardboard box and carries them into an empty room where they will sit and wait. For nobody.

He’s at 1,520 files and counting.

Such is the lot of the last man standing in this forgotten corner of Donald Trump’s Washington. For nearly two years, while Congress has argued and the White House has delayed, Robbins has waited to be sent some colleagues to read his work and rule on the cases. No one has arrived. So he toils in vain, writing memos into the void.

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When Robbins’ term ends on March 1, the board probably will sit empty for the first time in its 40-year history.

It’s also a problem for Robbins. A new board, whenever it’s appointed and approved, will start from scratch. That means while new members can read Robbins’ notes, his thousand-plus decisions will simply vanish.

“There is zero chance, zero chance my votes will count,” the 59-year-old lawyer says, running his fingers over the spines leather-bound volumes lined up neatly on a shelf. Inside are the board’s published rulings. None of the opinions he’s working on will make it into one of them.

“Imagine having the last year and half of your work just ... disappear,” he said.

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kinda really wish it was a different agency tho

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Kara · « **Reply #26664 on:** November 25, 2018, 03:14:41 AM »

Quote from: shosta on November 24, 2018, 03:53:04 PM

It wears me out when it's just moralizing, which is why I've started listening to cum town as a pallette cleanser.

Trashfuture routinely cracks me up and one of the hosts tosses out enough Chapo references that you feel like you're some hot couch gnostic.

Nintex · « **Reply #26665 on:** November 25, 2018, 05:48:50 AM »

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This job, which pays about $155,000 a year,

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In the corner, a potted plant he rescued from a trash can outside his condo six years ago is now so tall that it’s bumping up against the ceiling, growing in circles.

BrokenEchelon · « **Reply #26666 on:** November 25, 2018, 07:24:25 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on November 25, 2018, 12:39:48 AM

Memos to Nobody: Inside the work of a neglected fed agency
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Mark Robbins gets to work at 8:15 each morning and unlocks the door to his office suite. He switches on the lights and the TV news, brews a pot of coffee and pulls out the first files of the day to review.

For the next eight hours or so, he reads through federal workplace disputes, analyzes the cases, marks them with notes and logs his legal opinions. When he’s finished, he slips the files into a cardboard box and carries them into an empty room where they will sit and wait. For nobody.

He’s at 1,520 files and counting.

Such is the lot of the last man standing in this forgotten corner of Donald Trump’s Washington. For nearly two years, while Congress has argued and the White House has delayed, Robbins has waited to be sent some colleagues to read his work and rule on the cases. No one has arrived. So he toils in vain, writing memos into the void.
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When Robbins’ term ends on March 1, the board probably will sit empty for the first time in its 40-year history.

It’s also a problem for Robbins. A new board, whenever it’s appointed and approved, will start from scratch. That means while new members can read Robbins’ notes, his thousand-plus decisions will simply vanish.

“There is zero chance, zero chance my votes will count,” the 59-year-old lawyer says, running his fingers over the spines leather-bound volumes lined up neatly on a shelf. Inside are the board’s published rulings. None of the opinions he’s working on will make it into one of them.

“Imagine having the last year and half of your work just ... disappear,” he said.

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That sounds like the most amazing job. You don't have to deal with anyone, your work doesn't matter, you can watch TV at work and you get paid.

Nintex · « **Reply #26667 on:** November 26, 2018, 02:10:03 PM »

Casting choices for the new season are wild
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-26/trump-is-said-to-consider-michigan-senate-candidate-for-un-post

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President Donald Trump is considering John James, a Michigan businessman who lost election to the U.S. Senate this year, to replace UN Ambassador Nikki Haley, according to two people familiar with the matter.

I don't think Pilot John James has any diplomatic history or experience.

benjipwns · « **Reply #26668 on:** November 26, 2018, 07:03:50 PM »

Lou Dobbs just mentioned the Karavan KRISIS, Antifa and Robert Mueller's witchhunt in the same sentence.

Mandark · « **Reply #26669 on:** November 26, 2018, 07:06:02 PM »

Mueller just filed a status report saying Manafort breached his plea deal by lying repeatedly.

This guy.

https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/967152275159506944

https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/1003841725230669824

Nintex · « **Reply #26670 on:** November 26, 2018, 07:12:55 PM »

#FreePaulManafort

If a Turkey can get a pardon so can Paul Manafort.
We need his book.

studyguy · « **Reply #26671 on:** November 26, 2018, 07:18:45 PM »

https://twitter.com/JoePerticone/status/1067190089120391168
This shit is the realest struggle beard I've seen in a minute

benjipwns · « **Reply #26672 on:** November 26, 2018, 07:19:38 PM »

"grew"

benjipwns · « **Reply #26673 on:** November 26, 2018, 07:42:51 PM »

The DIMMS lied about their OPEN BORDERS AGENDA which will BACKFIRE on them in 2020 after THE AMERICAN PEOPLE find out.

benjipwns · « **Reply #26674 on:** November 26, 2018, 07:58:42 PM »

The Case for Beto O'Rourke

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Political pundits, campaign reporters, and seasoned operatives are speculating, with most political elites cynically looking down their noses at the prospect of a Beto O’Rourke 2020 campaign. “He hasn’t paid his dues;” “He is a creation of the media;” “It’s not his time.” The whole conversation around Beto has been eerily familiar to me, because these are the exact arguments people made to me when I told them I was considering working for Barack Obama 10 years ago.

Washington was wrong about Obama and there are many reasons to believe it’s wrong about Beto. Not only should Beto run, there is a strong case to make that if he were to do so, he would be one of the strongest candidates in the field.

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Third, the DNC has played with the primary calendar multiple ways this century and yet Iowa is still kingmaker. Victory in Iowa propelled Al Gore, John Kerry, Obama, and Hillary Clinton to their nominations, and Beto seems tailor-made for the state. The O’Rourke campaign in Texas was essentially an Iowa Caucus campaign on a grander scale. He visited every one of Texas’s 254 counties. He held town halls every night and seemed to enjoy the back and forth with voters that is key to a successful Iowa campaign. If you can win in Iowa, you can win the White House, and Beto just proved he has what it takes to win in Iowa.

Finally, Democrats have fallen behind Republicans on the campaign-innovation curve—it’s a key reason we lost in 2016. But a Beto O’Rourke presidential campaign has the potential to change this. Like Obama’s 2008 campaign, Beto’s Senate campaign felt different because it was different. He didn’t hire a pollster. He spoke like an actual human instead of an AI-generated amalgamation of focus grouped talking points and consultant approved buzzwords like “fight” and “everyday Americans.” ... If Democrats run the same old campaign, using the same tired and outdated tactics, we will certainly lose to Trump. Our nominee must have the courage to run a different kind of campaign. Beto has demonstrated that courage.

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The current list of possible 2020 candidates is as impressive, diverse, and talented as any I’ve ever seen, and we don’t need to go casting about for alternatives. No one knows what voters will be looking for two years from now, and you never know how good candidates are until they stand up in diners in New Hampshire and Iowa and try to explain why they, out of 300 plus million Americans, are best suited to become president. But to write Beto off is to repeat the same mistake pundits made with Obama.

In the closing days of the 2008 Iowa Caucuses, Michelle Obama would meet with undecided Iowans who liked her husband but were considering caucusing for one his opponents with the hope of voting for Obama in some future election. The future first lady, who we referred to as “the closer” for her ability to persuade undecided voters, would always respond with a version of the following: “This is Barack’s moment. This is our chance to bring real change. It won’t be the same in four or eight years. If you believe in Barack, the moment is now.”

Millions of people already believe in Beto O’Rourke, and that moment, for them and him, may be upon us.

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#BETOFORSPEAKER

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benjipwns · « **Reply #26675 on:** November 26, 2018, 08:03:50 PM »

Franken scandal haunts Gillibrand’s 2020 chances

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As Franken and his wife, Franni Bryson, made the rounds, thanking supporters in the philanthropists’ San Francisco home at the February 2018 event, the conversation broke off into another subject: Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand. The New York Democrat had, in their opinion, pulled the rug out from under Franken, a Minnesota Democrat beloved by the group, forcing him out without any real vetting of the allegations facing him.

“It was said not in front of Al to impress him; it was said privately in a corner. A group of us were standing there talking about it. He was one of our best weapons against this administration, his presence on these committees. [Gillibrand] did the damage that Republicans could not do themselves,” one of the attendees told POLITICO. “There were other people at this event who were saying the same thing. They said, ‘Absolutely, I will never do anything for her.’”

Today, nearly a year after Gillibrand led the charge in calling for Franken’s resignation, the anger is fresh on the minds of major donors across the country.

More than a dozen prominent West Coast, New York and national donors and bundlers — many of them women — said they would never again donate to or fundraise for Gillibrand or would do so only if she ended up as the Democratic presidential nominee.

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Among those donors is Susie Tompkins Buell, a prominent Democratic fundraiser and co-founder of Esprit and the North Face clothing brands, who said the matter remains fresh in her mind and among those in her circles. The episode, she said, “stained [Gillibrand’s] reputation as a fair player.”

“I do hear people refer to Kirsten Gillibrand as ‘opportunistic’ and shrewd at the expense of others to advance herself, and it seems to have been demonstrated in her rapid treatment of her colleague Al Franken,” she said. “I heard her referred to as ‘She would eat her own,’ and she seems to have demonstrated that. I know [Gillibrand] thought she was doing the right thing, but I think she will be remembered by this rush to judgment. I have heard [that] some of her women colleagues regret joining her.”

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“I could stay on the phone all afternoon talking about this,” said a Manhattan-based member of the ‘Majority Trust’ of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, an elite group of top donors, who has donated to Gillibrand in the past. “Let me tell you how strongly I felt about it — I didn’t even vote for her in the recent election. I left it blank.”

Another major Manhattan-based donor said the episode raised suspicions that it was a craven political move by Gillibrand.

“I thought she was duplicitous,” the donor said. “Once the whole thing happened with Al Franken, it was confirmed 1 billion percent that she’s not to be trusted. I think that she hurt the Democratic Party. I think that she hurt the Senate. I think that what she did for women in politics was dreadful.”

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“I know Kirsten well, and I know Al well. ... It’s tragic what happened to Al, and a lot of my donors feel anywhere from strongly to adamantly about anger at Kirsten for what she did. Others see that it was a way to kind of grab the high ground with no ambiguity,” the fundraiser said. “Personally, I lean towards I think Kirsten overdid it. It’s such a shame that Al couldn’t just go through the process and be reprimanded, or censured. At the moment it happened, it was understandable.”

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(((SOROS)))

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Gillibrand has stood her ground, never publicly backing down from the criticism, even when it came from the Democratic Party’s most prolific donor, George Soros. In June, he told The Washington Post he blamed Gillibrand for cornering Franken into resigning, accusing her of doing so “in order to improve her chances” in 2020.

In August, Gillibrand responded specifically to Soros, telling HuffPost in a statement: “If standing up for women who have been wronged makes George Soros mad, that’s on him.”

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Kara · « **Reply #26676 on:** November 26, 2018, 09:28:00 PM »

I preferred the earlier version of your post (even if it was an elaborate honey trap designed to get me to divulge the kind of legal entities through which I'd commit crimes; as they used to say in the Rezidentura, you ain't slick Supervisory Special Agent).

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #26677 on:** November 27, 2018, 03:59:05 PM »

Somehow not The Onion.

benjipwns · « **Reply #26678 on:** November 27, 2018, 04:11:44 PM »

HANG HIM

Nintex · « **Reply #26679 on:** November 27, 2018, 06:05:26 PM »

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1067507024303452161

2015: "LOL that wall idea is so dumb"
2016: "LMAO Mexico will never pay for that wall"
2017: "You ain't never getting money for your wall lol"
2018: "Ok Ok here's 1.6 billion for your wall"

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/1067499052516945921
Bolton: "You expect me to look at evidence? GURL"

Anyhow, good to know John Bolton does not have an interpreter.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #26680 on:** November 27, 2018, 06:19:27 PM »

"How many people in this room speak arabic?

*hands go up*

=[O

Nintex · « **Reply #26681 on:** November 27, 2018, 06:24:05 PM »

"Sir, we've intercepted Russian communications it seems another attack is planned. The President needs to hear this ASAP!"

"What is this? I am the National Security Advisor of the United States! Do you think I speak Russian?"

"No Sir"

"You get back to me when you get some English on the record son and stop wasting my time"

"But sir...."

During these public appearences it always looks like John Bolton is spamming the 'escape' button but he can't leave the Pokemon fight.

Kara · « **Reply #26682 on:** November 27, 2018, 07:21:44 PM »

This week's Chapo has a call in segment and one of the callers from outside the U.S. used "AmeriKKKa."

Mandark · « **Reply #26683 on:** November 27, 2018, 07:32:10 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on November 27, 2018, 06:05:26 PM

2015: "LOL that wall idea is so dumb"
2016: "LMAO Mexico will never pay for that wall"
2017: "You ain't never getting money for your wall lol"
2018: "Ok Ok here's 1.6 billion for your wall"

We went through this with the 2018 budget, where Trump wanted like $25 billion for "the wall," got 5% of what he asked for, and most of that was to replace existing fences.

The madman's done it again.

benjipwns · « **Reply #26684 on:** November 27, 2018, 07:40:45 PM »

http://reason.com/archives/2018/11/27/three-strikes-life-prison-drugs-851/

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In 2014, 26-year-old Tennessee resident Chris Young was sentenced to life in federal prison for a drug offense. The judge in his case had no choice but to sentence him to die behind bars under an obscure "three strikes" law for prior drug crimes after prosecutors filed what's known as an 851 notice.

The filing, known for the section of the U.S. Code from which it's derived, was originally intended to give prosecutors leeway to avoid some of the harshest mandatory minimums on the books. But as the drug war expanded, the threat of an 851 filing became a prosecutorial bullying tactic used to dissuade defendants from exercising their constitutional right to a jury trial. It also ties the hands of judges, taking away any discretion they have over sentencing, and has sent hundreds of drug offenders to prison for life.

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Young was a peripheral figure in the bust of large drug ring. Yet even though he was facing serious charges for cocaine trafficking, he rejected the plea deal that federal prosecutors dangled in front of him.

Prosecutors responded by filing an 851 notice against him, using two prior low-level crack cocaine offenses that he'd caught when he was 18 and 19 years old. The combined weight of the drugs in Young's previous convictions amounted to about 7.5 grams, or roughly the weight of three pennies.

In 2013, a jury found Young guilty of drug conspiracy and possession with intent to distribute more than 500 grams of cocaine, attempted possession with intent to sell within 1,000 feet of a school, and possession of a firearm in the furtherance of a drug crime. Because Young had at least two prior drug convictions, Sharp was bound by the law to sentence the 26-year-old to life in federal prison.

For Sharp, Young's 2014 sentencing hearing was little more than judicial theater. "The sentence that everybody knows is coming is certainly more harsh than is necessary, and I wish it was not that way," he said at the hearing.

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Section 851 of the U.S. Code is applied in only a small chunk of annual federal drug cases, but "the shocking, dirty little secret of federal sentencing," as one U.S. district judge called it, is an incredibly powerful tool that prosecutors use to coerce defendants into plea deals and hammer those who reject them.

Federal judges, criminal justice advocates, and former prosecutors say they are used arbitrarily. Studies by the U.S. Sentencing Commission have found 851 notices are filed more, and withdrawn less often, against minority defendants.

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The decision by a federal prosecutor to file an 851 notice is no small thing. When an 851 notice is filed in a drug case, it makes an offender's third felony drug offense—state or federal, no matter how long ago the previous two offenses were—subject to mandatory life in federal prison without the possibility of parole. Judges have no way to deviate from the sentence.

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Sharp is not the only federal judge who's been bothered by such incredibly punitive enhancements. The results when prosecutors file 851 notices "don't just tinker with sentencing outcomes," U.S. District Court Judge John Gleeson wrote in a 2013 opinion. "By doubling mandatory minimums and sometimes mandating life in prison, they produce the sentencing equivalent of a two-by-four to the forehead."

The defendant in that case, Lulzim Kupa, was facing a 10-year mandatory minimum sentence for cocaine trafficking. Prosecutors gave him 24 hours to decide whether to plead guilty in exchange for seven years in federal prison. When he turned down the offer, prosecutors filed an 851 notice, informing him that, because of two prior state-level marijuana convictions, he was instead looking down the barrel of a mandatory life sentence if he exercised his constitutional right to go to trial and lost. When prosecutors came back with another plea offer—this time ratcheted up to 10 years—Kupa, quite rationally, buckled. "I want to plead guilty, your Honor, before things get worse," he told Gleeson.

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In Chris Young's case, prosecutors offered him 14 years in prison if he pleaded guilty. The only defendants in the sweeping drug trafficking prosecution who received life sentences were Young and two others who went to trial. The ringleader in the case, Robert Porter, pleaded guilty and received 25 years, according to court filings.

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Moore's two prior convictions, 16 years apart from each other, were for possession of a small amount of meth and some Codeine pills. Both resulted in probation. The prosecutor filed two 851 notices in her case: The first was filed several days before her arraignment, and the second, which resulted in her mandatory life sentence, was filed several months after she pleaded not guilty.

"I had never dreamed anything like that was possible," Moore says. "I mean, I wouldn't have bought one box of Sudafed if I had known I would be facing life, because I had never been to prison before."

However, Moore's lawyer convinced her she could win at trial, and at her age, the difference between 20 years in prison and life seemed negligible.

At her sentencing hearing, the judge in Moore's case, Robert Junell of the Western District of Texas, described the penalty as "so severe, I took extra time yesterday making sure that this was correct." None of the co-conspirators in Moore's case, including the meth cook, received a life sentence.

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Black defendants were also the most likely to be eligible for an 851 enhancement, and notices were filed against them at a higher rate than white defendants: 14.9 percent compared to 11.4 percent, respectively.

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Brett Tolman, who served as the U.S. attorney for the district of Utah from 2006 to 2009, says in an interview with Reason that he recalls conversations where federal prosecutors told defense attorneys, "Look, your client doesn't want to cooperate. That's fine. I'll go back, I'll add 851, and he'll spend the rest of his life in prison."

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There was a brief period where it wasn't happening, or at least wasn't supposed to be. In 2014, former Attorney General Eric Holder issued a memo ordering U.S. attorneys not to use 851 filings to coerce plea deals.

"Prosecutors are encouraged to make the § 851 determination at the time the case is charged, or as soon as possible thereafter," Holder wrote. "An § 851 enhancement should not be used in plea negotiations for the sole or predominant purpose of inducing a defendant to plead guilty."

However, the recently resigned Attorney General Jeff Sessions rescinded that memo in 2017, along with several others encouraging federal prosecutors to avoid seeking the longest possible sentence by default.

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While in office, Sessions opposed reform measures. In a February letter to the Senate opposing the Sentencing Reform and Corrections Act (SRCA), which would have cut mandatory sentences for repeat offenders. Sessions wrote that the bill would "reduce sentences for a highly dangerous cohort of criminals, including repeat dangerous drug traffickers and those who use firearms." His replacement, Matthew Whitaker, has told President Trump that he also has concerns about a newer bill that would reduce the "three strikes" penalty for drug offenders like Young.

https://www.buriedaliveproject.org/

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benjipwns · « **Reply #26685 on:** November 27, 2018, 07:53:21 PM »

Trump's construction and business expertise saving HUGE costs on the border wall

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #26686 on:** November 27, 2018, 07:59:51 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on November 27, 2018, 07:53:21 PM

Trump's construction and business expertise saving HUGE costs on the border wall

Beast Mode

kingv · « **Reply #26687 on:** November 27, 2018, 08:26:16 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on November 27, 2018, 07:32:10 PM

Quote from: Nintex on November 27, 2018, 06:05:26 PM
2015: "LOL that wall idea is so dumb"
2016: "LMAO Mexico will never pay for that wall"
2017: "You ain't never getting money for your wall lol"
2018: "Ok Ok here's 1.6 billion for your wall"

We went through this with the 2018 budget, where Trump wanted like $25 billion for "the wall," got 5% of what he asked for, and most of that was to replace existing fences.

The madman's done it again.

Schumer is terrible at messaging. Actually Pelosi is too.

Schumer is like “yeah, breh, here’s 1.6 for wall” which makes him look like the biggest pushover and dumbass, even though the reality is way better. He should have said “we oppose any increase in border security funding”
Or something like that. Which wouldn’t have required him to clarify the context 5 hours later.

If trump shuts down the government on this he’s a super dumbass.
1) it will fuck gdp growth when it’s already coming in about 1.5 points weaker than Q3
2) it will Piss off ten million people trying to travel in December.
3) the Democrats hold all the cards in terms of popular support on the issue. The news will be filled with racists saying terrible shit

kingv · « **Reply #26688 on:** November 27, 2018, 08:26:37 PM »

Maybe he thinks this will shut down mueller.

benjipwns · « **Reply #26689 on:** November 27, 2018, 08:39:54 PM »

He won't need to shut down Mueller. I earlier saw an article that Mueller is entering his end game, and no one would publish a story like that if it wasn't true. And others would certainly not republish it across multiple media entities like the WaPo, Wired, etc. And certainly not do this every few months.

kingv · « **Reply #26690 on:** November 27, 2018, 08:50:46 PM »

The next week or two are looking to be pretty explosive on mueller. Seems like Paulie will be directly tied to coordinating with Wikileaks, and maybe even the Ecuadorean government to launder Russia’s stolen Hillary emails.

...

Hillary must be a real cunt to get this many people hard at trying to get rid of her.

benjipwns · « **Reply #26691 on:** November 27, 2018, 09:03:23 PM »

Quote from: shosta on November 27, 2018, 08:44:30 PM

Kai su, teknon?

What? I'm on the hook too! I said I thought Mueller may have been wrapping up when he was settling cases like Flynn and handing off to regular prosecutors the supposed "big fish" but then he started delaying sentencings, everyone started trying to go back on deals, and Manafort decided that criminal charges are no reason to stop committing crimes. Not to mention half his team being exposed as agents of the Deep State Obama-Gladio Operation and having to resign in disgrace.

And I've never gone back on my struggle to figure out exactly what he could possibly still be investigating (or even been investigating) that's been kept 100% secret for the entire decade of this investigation.

All you did was put a date to it, typical rookie mistake. And you want to get Big Koch Money, smh.

Tripon · « **Reply #26692 on:** November 27, 2018, 09:03:53 PM »

https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1067559961453096962
https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1067597148341047298
https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1067597551338225666

benjipwns · « **Reply #26693 on:** November 27, 2018, 09:06:25 PM »

More proof that somebody got to him to get him to drop the Mooch.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #26694 on:** November 27, 2018, 10:19:14 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on November 27, 2018, 09:03:53 PM

https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1067559961453096962

Jesus fucking Christ. We’ve come full fucking circle

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #26695 on:** November 28, 2018, 08:48:46 AM »

More like Big Cock Money

Nintex · « **Reply #26696 on:** November 28, 2018, 02:02:37 PM »

Quote from: kingv on November 27, 2018, 08:26:16 PM

Quote from: Mandark on November 27, 2018, 07:32:10 PM
Quote from: Nintex on November 27, 2018, 06:05:26 PM
2015: "LOL that wall idea is so dumb"
2016: "LMAO Mexico will never pay for that wall"
2017: "You ain't never getting money for your wall lol"
2018: "Ok Ok here's 1.6 billion for your wall"

We went through this with the 2018 budget, where Trump wanted like $25 billion for "the wall," got 5% of what he asked for, and most of that was to replace existing fences.

The madman's done it again.

Schumer is terrible at messaging. Actually Pelosi is too.

Schumer is like “yeah, breh, here’s 1.6 for wall” which makes him look like the biggest pushover and dumbass, even though the reality is way better. He should have said “we oppose any increase in border security funding”
Or something like that. Which wouldn’t have required him to clarify the context 5 hours later.

If trump shuts down the government on this he’s a super dumbass.
1) it will fuck gdp growth when it’s already coming in about 1.5 points weaker than Q3
2) it will Piss off ten million people trying to travel in December.
3) the Democrats hold all the cards in terms of popular support on the issue. The news will be filled with racists saying terrible shit

Unlike other Presidents Trump doesn't really care about a government shutdown. That's why it didn't work last time when the Democrats threatened to shutdown the government.
Obama didn't want the social programs to go up in flames and the national parks unattended. Not to mention the millions of government workers who would not get paid during the holidays.
Trump doesn't care about any of those things. He would care that it makes him 'look bad' but that's easy enough to spin as FAKE NEWS!!.

Trump will happily declare on Fox News he saved a ton of money by not paying the government from his Mar-a-lago resort.

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If something bad happens he'd just go to Twitter:
"WOW, so bad <insert natural disaster here>. Lot of people dying and hurt. If only the Democrats hadn't shutdown the government we could've helped"

"I've stopped all military aid to Ukraine because of the government shutdown. Too bad the Democrats will give Putin a free pass huh"

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Remember this is the guy that said yesterday that California should've raked to prevent the fires and there's nothing else they can do now.

Schumer made a smart move. "Keep negotiations open" (Trump likes to make deals) and giving him a number.
He'll throw a few tantrums and make a 'deal' for $2 billion. Then he'll say something like: "I would've liked 5 but it's actually better not to spend everything at once, now we can do it possibly cheaper"
Then he can go back to his cultists to claim that "Everyone" wants walls now and everyone turned around on the walls and it is the best idea ever apart from raking all of California.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #26697 on:** November 28, 2018, 03:16:33 PM »

Yeah, but I heard Schumer steals her jokes from other comedians, so I doubt she's that smart.

Mandark · « **Reply #26698 on:** November 28, 2018, 04:22:27 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on November 28, 2018, 02:02:37 PM

Unlike other Presidents Trump doesn't really care about a government shutdown. That's why it didn't work last time when the Democrats threatened to shutdown the government.

August 25, 2017: Trump is threatening a government shutdown. Here’s what that looks like.

September 1, 2017: Trump pulls back threat to shut down government over border wall

February 6, 2018: Trump threatens government shutdown if Congress doesn't fix immigration laws

April 28, 2018: Trump threatens government shutdown in September if there's no funding for wall

July 29, 2018: Trump threatens again to shut down federal government over border-wall funding

September 5, 2018: Trump backs off government shutdown threat ahead of elections: report

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #26699 on:** November 28, 2018, 04:46:52 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on November 28, 2018, 04:22:27 PM

Quote from: Nintex on November 28, 2018, 02:02:37 PM
Unlike other Presidents Trump doesn't really care about a government shutdown. That's why it didn't work last time when the Democrats threatened to shutdown the government.

August 25, 2017: Trump is threatening a government shutdown. Here’s what that looks like.

September 1, 2017: Trump pulls back threat to shut down government over border wall

February 6, 2018: Trump threatens government shutdown if Congress doesn't fix immigration laws

April 28, 2018: Trump threatens government shutdown in September if there's no funding for wall

July 29, 2018: Trump threatens again to shut down federal government over border-wall funding

September 5, 2018: Trump backs off government shutdown threat ahead of elections: report

It’s kinda like he talks a bunch of shit, and then folds up at the slightest bit of actual opposition.

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