US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[Mandark]

One thing about Trumo is how crazy bad his political instincts are.

He knows how to play to his diehard base, and that’s it. This is the best news cycle he’s had in a year, and he’s going to squander it by spiking the football, and then announcing a policy that will, if successful, throw 100 million people of their health insurance in an election year. I’m sure McConnell would love to have the responsibility of continuously vetoing Medicare for All in an election year after 20% of his state gets thrown off of the Medicaid expansion.

Not just him but the party. Basically every Republican AG signed on to that lawsuit, and they got hammered by it in the midterms. They know it, too. Dems were flooding the air with attack ads over it and Republican candidates were shying away from the issue with a bunch flat-out lying about their position.

They keep doing this shit. Bush trying to privatize Social Security, McCain's plan to voucherize Medicare from 2008, etc. Just shooting themselves in the dick.

[Himu]

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[Brehvolution]

All charges dropped against Jussie Smollet.

[ToxicAdam]

For the better. The dude had suffered enough.

[Svejk]

He got pulled over for a DUI before and used his brother's name instead.  Dood seems like pathological liar to me. 

[Nola]

All charges dropped against Jussie Smollet.

Who would have thought that within a week's time we'd find out that both Jussie and Trump were totally vindicated

[Joe Molotov]

All charges dropped against Jussie Smollet.

Who would have thought that within a week's time we'd find out that both Jussie and Trump were totally vindicated

Just wait until part 3 of Leaving Neverland drops next week, it's gonna blow your mind.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/DevinNunes/status/1109921723959238656

[kingv]

He got pulled over for a DUI before and used his brother's name instead.  Dood seems like pathological liar to me. 

“I’m uh, Jessie Smollet. Wait, no, I’m Bussy”

[Brehvolution]

https://twitter.com/DevinNunes/status/1109921723959238656

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1110589758600826881

https://twitter.com/rmead777/status/1110591913978028037

https://twitter.com/DevinNunes/status/1110591225441239041

 

 

[benjipwns]

Sean Hannity says this is just proof that it's time to finally hold Hillary accountable for her crimes with e-mails and rigging the primaries.

[Boredfrom]

https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1110589758600826881

https://twitter.com/rmead777/status/1110591913978028037

https://twitter.com/DevinNunes/status/1110591225441239041

 

 

At least Etiolate tried, unlike you...

[team filler]

etiolate the absolute legend 

[Nola]

I feel like I should of anticipated this more, but it is still crazy that basically the entire Republican party, in service of getting out in front of the likely less flattering release of the redacted fuller Mueller report, is essentially twisting and weaponizing a respectfully conducted, constitutionally backed investigation stemming from oversight powers into even greater escalatory fascist rhetoric.

[Boredfrom]

Man, you are a dumb motherfucker, filler...

[Boredfrom]

I feel like I should of anticipated this more, but it is still crazy that basically the entire Republican party is essentially twisting and weaponizing a respectfully conducted, constitutionally backed investigation stemming from oversight powers into even greater escalatory fascist rhetoric.

You are saying this like your party don’t have a plan about it and will just let the propaganda work as intended...

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/DevinNunes/status/1110379279097974784

[Boredfrom]

Stan for David Nunes, you guys...

[team filler]

heels>faces 

[Nola]

You are saying this like your party don’t have a plan about it and will just let the propaganda work as intended...

lol, yeah, clearly they don't(not exactly surprised here).

Republicans have got out in front of this and dominated the media cycle. At this point Mueller could probably(hypothetically speaking) come in and testify in a couple months that the Trump family got within spitting distance of what they thought could amount to a prosecutable case on conspiracy and that had it not been for suspected obstruction they probably could of made the case and based on most of recent history that is going to be met far below the magnitude of concern justified by the larger public because the correction is never as powerful as the initial story and when two loud competing narratives clash the resting place is apathy or factionalism.

[Boredfrom]

heels>faces 

“I like to root for stupid lying politicians doing hollow victory laps because I don’t take anything seriously”.

[Boredfrom]

You are saying this like your party don’t have a plan about it and will just let the propaganda work as intended...

lol, yeah, clearly they don't(not exactly surprised here).

Republicans have got out in front of this and dominated the media cycle. At this point Mueller could probably(hypothetically speaking) come in and testify in a couple months that the Trump family got within spitting distance of what they thought could amount to a prosecutable case on conspiracy and that had it not been for suspected obstruction they probably could of made the case and based on most of recent history that is going to be met far below the magnitude of concern justified by the larger public because the correction is never as powerful as the initial story and when two loud competing narratives clash the resting place is apathy or factionalism.

Your party suck ass.

[Nintex]

I feel like I should of anticipated this more, but it is still crazy that basically the entire Republican party, in service of getting out in front of the likely less flattering release of the redacted fuller Mueller report, is essentially twisting and weaponizing a respectfully conducted, constitutionally backed investigation stemming from oversight powers into even greater escalatory fascist rhetoric.

fascist rhetoric?

They're just flinging poo at the zoo like monkeys as they do always.
You act as if the Trump White House had any plans other than:

Trump is guilty -> Spin and deny and escape to Moscow
Trump is innocent -> Lol #fakenews time to investigate #heremails

The Mueller investigation will just become part of the Trump rally/debate routine until everyone is sick of hearing "It was a WITCH HUNT, it was a WITCH HUNT. The Democrats colluded!"

[Boredfrom]

For all Nintex faults, at least he is not a coward like filler.

[Mollys Fruity Loops]

[Mandark]

The White House budgets were straight out ignored even when the GOP had both chambers. Mick Mulvaney's basically writing tea party fan fiction which won't go anywhere but will provide fodder for Dem attack ads. Bad politics but Trump's too disengaged and senile to keep it from happening.

[Nintex]

You have to wonder if White House budgets dictated by the Russians would be less evil.

[Brehvolution]

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[Nola]

Your party suck ass.

No real argument there.

At the same time it does make it hard for even a competent party to compete when the side gaslighting shit has an entire loosely coordinated propaganda ecosystem with no shame and the power to move 30-40 percent of public opinion in a country to help signal boost whatever you do. And a larger mainstream media that bends over backwards to try and placate to criticisms of counter-bias leveled toward them.

[Boredfrom]

That excuse is getting tiresome.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/jepence/status/1110521581695062016

InFrAsTrUcTuRe WeEk 

[Nola]

That excuse is getting tiresome.

I mean you can always just fuck off?

 

[Boredfrom]

That excuse is getting tiresome.

I mean you can always just fuck off?

The martyr complex rings hollow when you admit that they are not even trying do a counter measure at the possibility of Mueller not getting the results they want.

Not even mocking you, dude.

[Mandark]

https://twitter.com/MeghanMcCain/status/1110362826533732353

[agrajag]

The White House budgets were straight out ignored even when the GOP had both chambers. Mick Mulvaney's basically writing tea party fan fiction which won't go anywhere but will provide fodder for Dem attack ads. Bad politics but Trump's too disengaged and senile to keep it from happening.

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/26/706869835/trump-administration-now-says-entire-affordable-care-act-should-be-repealed

[CatsCatsCats]

I actually hated myself to read that whole article, what a weird little window into another world that was.

Edit: the Meghan McCain one

[Nola]

The martyr complex rings hollow when you admit that they are not even trying do a counter measure at the possibility of Mueller not getting the results they want.

Not even mocking you, dude.

What martyr complex? It's just the way of things right now. Ignoring or pretending things are what they aren't isn't really going to help or change anything. It's so far a shitty response made worse by a political ecosystem that predictably was already going to be working against them unless the more irrational outcomes of the Mueller Report somehow came true.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/MeghanMcCain/status/1110362826533732353

https://twitter.com/Azkaban/status/1110487908094484480

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/SenGillibrand/status/1107718915763957763

https://twitter.com/Hop_Squatch/status/1107728601619804162

https://twitter.com/claudiamiles/status/1107728694544523264

https://twitter.com/AimeeDearmon/status/1107729663663706112

https://twitter.com/FortuneDesign/status/1108402262819377152

  pussy hats

[Mandark]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/puerto-rico-faces-food-stamps-crisis-as-trump-privately-vents-about-federal-aid-to-hurricane-maria-battered-island/2019/03/25/ade500fe-4cb3-11e9-b79a-961983b7e0cd_story.html

hoo boy

[Boredfrom]

The martyr complex rings hollow when you admit that they are not even trying do a counter measure at the possibility of Mueller not getting the results they want.

Not even mocking you, dude.

What martyr complex? It's just the way of things right now. Ignoring or pretending things are what they aren't isn't really going to help or change anything. It's so far a shitty response made worse by a political ecosystem that predictably was already going to be working against them unless the more irrational outcomes of the Mueller Report somehow came true.

Dude...  if you know the situation is potentially  fucked already why is the contingency plan is “not even trying to have a plan b”. I asked you if you see the party having a plan forward given that Pelosi was smart enough to not hype the impeachment talk, I just didn’t expect that what the only thing they would you beyond independent investigations.

[Boredfrom]

Ok, Boredfrom. As an international observer of our democratic process, what do you think Democrats should do?

Give me a lot of money.

[Occam]

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Holy referrer, Batman!

That reminds me, I need to get a Firefox plugin that automatically removes this.

[benjipwns]

it'd be a shorter wall on their southern border

[benjipwns]

Bootyguy beating out Kamala/Booker is a huge surprise to me.

I thought they were shooins to be top of the pack.

11% is nothing to sneeze at. I don't actually understand it myself. Can someone explain Buttcheek's appeal?

His CNN town hall was pretty well received from what I saw. In this field that's a pretty good advantage for the candidates who are getting those and aren't lame.

I guess he also won SXSW?

[benjipwns]

Robert Mueller never asked the ghost "where is the Time Travel Briefcase?!?"

[Boredfrom]

You got it, bud

 

[team filler]

trumpy invites team of russians into the white house 

[Trent Dole]

You are saying this like your party don’t have a plan about it and will just let the propaganda work as intended...

lol, yeah, clearly they don't(not exactly surprised here).

Republicans have got out in front of this and dominated the media cycle. At this point Mueller could probably(hypothetically speaking) come in and testify in a couple months that the Drumpf family got within spitting distance of what they thought could amount to a prosecutable case on conspiracy and that had it not been for suspected obstruction they probably could of made the case and based on most of recent history that is going to be met far below the magnitude of concern justified by the larger public because the correction is never as powerful as the initial story and when two loud competing narratives clash the resting place is apathy or factionalism.

Your party suck ass.

The fun thing about this statement is that regardless of whichever of the two parties you mean it's true.

[team filler]

there are two parties 

[Nola]

 

Dude...  if you know the situation is potentially  fucked already why is the contingency plan is “not even trying to have a plan b”. I asked you if you see the party having a plan forward given that Pelosi was smart enough to not hype the impeachment talk, I just didn’t expect that what the only thing they would you beyond independent investigations.

I mean you didn't really ask me that, at all lol.

The response obviously hasn't been good if the goal was contextualize these findings more appropriately than the GOP spin is doing, but as Shosta put it, I'm also not exactly sure what a good alternative strategy looks like? Or how you make it work? Given the constraints and opposing forces you have to overmatch to win out on the narrative and all that. Frankly the more I'm confronting this question through you the more you have pushed me toward giving the Dems more of a pass than I was.

[team filler]

[Boredfrom]

Dude...  if you know the situation is potentially  fucked already why is the contingency plan is “not even trying to have a plan b”. I asked you if you see the party having a plan forward given that Pelosi was smart enough to not hype the impeachment talk, I just didn’t expect that what the only thing they would you beyond independent investigations.

I mean you didn't really ask me that, at all lol.

The response obviously hasn't been good if the goal was contextualize these findings more appropriately than the GOP spin is doing, but as Shosta put it, I'm also not exactly sure what a good alternative strategy looks like? Or how you make it work? Given the constraints and opposing forces you have to overmatch to win out on the narrative and all that. Frankly the more I'm confronting this question through you the more you have pushed me toward giving the Dems more of a pass than I was.

 

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1110560126941958144

 

What does AIPAC say about this?

[Nola]

Not sure what is dodgy about that?

And no offense, you haven't exactly articulated much in the way of a counter point besides labeling an attempt at an abbreviated explanation as an excuse and deride me for that mischaracterization.

Overall though(if that is what you are getting at) I think it's been clear what the Democrats larger core strategy is, which is to run on issues and conduct oversight cautiously given the forces I mentioned. Which up to now has led them to a pretty successful midterm, whether they can segue that into 2020 in the way the 2010 Republicans failed to do is an open question. Probably largely determinant on who the nominee ends up being.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1110560126941958144

 

What does AIPAC say about this?

this would have been better if he was quoting it to accuse the Democrats of anti-semitism

[Boredfrom]

Not sure what is dodgy about that?

And no offense, you haven't exactly articulated much in the way of a counter point besides labeling an attempt at an abbreviated explanation as an excuse and deride me for that mischaracterization.

Overall though(if that is what you are getting at) I think it's been clear what the Democrats larger core strategy is, which is to run on issues and conduct oversight cautiously given the forces I mentioned. Which up to now has led them to a pretty successful midterm, whether they can segue that into 2020 in the way the 2010 Republicans failed to do is an open question. Probably largely determinant on who the nominee ends up being.

I’m just kind of tired, specially since was not acting in a trolling and dickish way like the other two usual users with hot takes and self admited childish nihilism. Kind of disheartening to hear that the pushback just make you going for hard again for tribial politics even if I don’t disagree with your choice.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1110634840632770567

That's uh, what?

[benjipwns]

That's actually a distinction that's been used in a lot of cases. They should have just argued it places an undue burden on the President to determine if someone tweeting at him is an American citizen/legal resident.

In his argument, Jaffer warned of a slippery slope if the court were to find that Trump could block certain users while occupying the White House.

Raising the notion of a President preventing certain commenters from posting on a government website, Jaffer said, "I think you would be opening the door to the distortion and manipulation of those types of spaces as well if you were to accept this argument."

"The whole point of Twitter is to facilitate interaction among users," he said. "If the government had wanted one-way action, it could have used a blog"

I'm always amazed when a level of tweeter like Trump actually blocks someone, you'd think most of these celebrities at that level of followers ratio wouldn't read tweets from randoms at all. Like there's that whole kerfuffle about Wil Wheaton blocking hundreds of thousands of people who claim they were unfairly blocked like...what even?