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team filler · « **Reply #41940 on:** September 26, 2019, 10:46:22 PM »

she's right

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #41941 on:** September 26, 2019, 10:59:35 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on September 26, 2019, 10:29:33 PM

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https://twitter.com/evanmcmurry/status/1176988004445036546
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ABC credited its scoop to Serhiy Leshchenko, a former member of Ukraine's parliament and former adviser to Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky. Leshchenko now disputes the story, denying he told ABC News that discussion of a potential probe into the Biden family's business activity in the country was a precondition for communication with Trump.

ABC quoted Leshchenko as saying, "it was a clear fact that Trump wants to meet only if Biden case will be included." According to ABC, he added that the Biden case was "raised many times" and "Ukrainian officials understood."

Leshchenko rejected the ABC story just hours after it was published, telling Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty's Christopher Miller that he "DID NOT tell ABC insistence for leaders to discuss Biden probe was precondition for call." Leshchenko also spoke to BBC's Jonah Fisher, who added that the former Ukrainian official learned of "quid pro quo" rumors "only from media reports."

Though Leshchenko advised the Zelensky administration through its post-election transition, the administration distanced itself from Leshchenko as early as May. He was not advising Zelensky during the July 25 call between Zelensky and Trump.
Other than that, the story was possibly accurate.

This guy got some very angry phone calls immediately after the story was published, I'd imagine.

team filler · « **Reply #41942 on:** September 26, 2019, 11:23:02 PM »

https://twitter.com/SenWarren/status/625744496911872000

curly · « **Reply #41943 on:** September 26, 2019, 11:27:17 PM »

https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/563707982337568768

benjipwns · « **Reply #41944 on:** September 26, 2019, 11:28:17 PM »

Trump's going to read that hashtag as #wallneedscience

Tripon · « **Reply #41945 on:** September 27, 2019, 12:32:43 AM »

https://twitter.com/ChelseaClinton/status/1177317191429120000

Occam · « **Reply #41946 on:** September 27, 2019, 01:06:04 AM »

This is great: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/26/trumps-getting-impeached-i-defy-you-convince-anyone-this-cursed-truck-stop/

I'd like to see this filmed, or rather, animated.

Mandark · « **Reply #41947 on:** September 27, 2019, 01:15:55 AM »

He was a big fan of Mark Steyn and Elon Musk so there's that.

team filler · « **Reply #41948 on:** September 27, 2019, 01:29:05 AM »

https://twitter.com/areltahry/status/1177443480810844163

benjipwns · « **Reply #41949 on:** September 27, 2019, 01:36:33 AM »

You guys drove him to graffiti:

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #41950 on:** September 27, 2019, 01:37:36 AM »

odds are he hams it up a bit for laughs, honestly, some of you probably enjoy getting to style on him and want it to be real

benjipwns · « **Reply #41951 on:** September 27, 2019, 01:47:23 AM »

Nintex is Lou Dobbs. Change my mind.

benjipwns · « **Reply #41952 on:** September 27, 2019, 01:48:47 AM »

I said CHANGE my mind.

Mandark · « **Reply #41953 on:** September 27, 2019, 01:51:09 AM »

guys he's just dumb

that's it

benjipwns · « **Reply #41954 on:** September 27, 2019, 02:07:55 AM »

all I know is that I'm developing strong opinions about the 2021 Dutch elections and how the SPD and FDP will form an alliance after sweeping the House of Lords

benjipwns · « **Reply #41955 on:** September 27, 2019, 02:18:53 AM »

Remember when Trump wanted to cut their budget and everyone who matters said this time he had gone too far and was eliminating journalism on Putin's orders.

Follow the money is all I'm saying.

benjipwns · « **Reply #41956 on:** September 27, 2019, 02:31:28 AM »

Because the Twitter experts have promised that something will happen soon or maybe not but definitely something is going to happen; let us all recall why the first presidential impeachment was awesome and will be always be hard to top and why presidential impeachment almost demands absurdity considering this and Bill Clinton's:

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Andrew_Johnson

Johnson had inherited, as Secretary of War, Lincoln's appointee Edwin M. Stanton, a staunch Radical Republican, who as long as he remained in office would comply with Congressional Reconstruction policies.[10] To ensure that Stanton would not be replaced, Congress passed the Tenure of Office Act in 1867 over Johnson's veto. The act required the President to seek the Senate's advice and consent before relieving or dismissing any member of his Cabinet (an indirect reference to Stanton) or, indeed, any federal official whose initial appointment had previously required its advice and consent.[11][12]

Because the Tenure of Office Act did permit the president to suspend such officials when Congress was out of session, when Johnson failed to obtain Stanton's resignation, he instead suspended Stanton on August 5, 1867, which gave him the opportunity to appoint General Ulysses S. Grant, then serving as Commanding General of the Army, interim Secretary of War.[13] When the Senate adopted a resolution of non-concurrence with Stanton's dismissal in December 1867, Grant told Johnson he was going to resign, fearing punitive legal action. Johnson assured Grant that he would assume all responsibility in the matter, and asked him to delay his resignation until a suitable replacement could be found.[12] Contrary to Johnson's belief that Grant had agreed to remain in office,[14] when the Senate voted and reinstated Stanton in January 1868, Grant immediately resigned, before the president had an opportunity to appoint a replacement.[15] Johnson was furious at Grant, accusing him of lying during a stormy cabinet meeting. The March 1868 publication of several angry messages between Johnson and Grant led to a complete break between the two. As a result of these letters, Grant solidified his standing as the frontrunner for the 1868 Republican presidential nomination.[13][16]

Johnson agonized about Stanton's restoration to office, and undertook a desperate search for someone to replace Stanton whom the Senate might find acceptable. He turned first to General William Tecumseh Sherman, who was an enemy of Stanton's, but Sherman turned the president down.[17] Sherman subsequently suggested to Johnson that Republican radicals and moderates would be amenable to replacing Stanton with Jacob Cox, but he found the president to be no longer interested in appeasement.[18] On February 21, 1868, the president appointed Lorenzo Thomas, a brevet major general in the Army, as interim Secretary of War, ordered the removal of Stanton from office, and informed the Senate of his actions. Thomas personally delivered the president's dismissal notice to Stanton, who refused either to accept its legitimacy or to vacate the premises. Instead, Stanton informed Speaker of the House Schuyler Colfax and President pro tempore of the Senate Benjamin Wade of his plight, then barricaded himself in his office and ordered Thomas arrested for violating the Tenure of Office Act.[19] Thomas remained under arrest for several days, until Stanton, realizing that the case against Thomas would provide the courts with an opportunity to review the constitutionality of the Tenure of Office Act, had the charges dropped.[20]

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One week later, the House adopted eleven articles of impeachment against the president. The articles charged Johnson with:

Dismissing Edwin Stanton from office after the Senate had voted not to concur with his dismissal and had ordered him reinstated.
Appointing Thomas Secretary of War ad interim despite the lack of vacancy in the office, since the dismissal of Stanton had been invalid.
Appointing Thomas without the required advice and consent of the Senate.
Conspiring, with Thomas and "other persons to the House of Representatives unknown", to unlawfully prevent Stanton from continuing in office.
Conspiring to unlawfully curtail faithful execution of the Tenure of Office Act.
Conspiring to "seize, take, and possess the property of the United States in the Department of War".
Conspiring to "seize, take, and possess the property of the United States in the Department of War" with specific intent to violate the Tenure of Office Act.
Issuing to Thomas the authority of the office of Secretary of War with unlawful intent to "control the disbursements of the moneys appropriated for the military service and for the Department of War".
Issuing to Major General William H. Emory orders with unlawful intent to violate federal law requiring all military orders to be issued through the General of the Army.
Making three speeches with intent to "attempt to bring into disgrace, ridicule, hatred, contempt and reproach, the Congress of the United States".
Bringing disgrace and ridicule to the presidency by his aforementioned words and actions.

The Senate ultimately voted on the 2nd, 3rd and last.

Nintex · « **Reply #41957 on:** September 27, 2019, 04:04:21 AM »

https://twitter.com/tictoc/status/1177488070196645888

"Would anybody else in the room like to represent Ukraine for 50k a month?"

Trent Dole · « **Reply #41958 on:** September 27, 2019, 05:30:05 AM »

https://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1177406322565713920

Boogie · « **Reply #41959 on:** September 27, 2019, 06:48:08 AM »

So, here's a little amuse bouche you may enjoy.

A year ago, I was on a course at the Canadian Police College in Ottawa, and I was browsing its law-enforcement-centric library when I came across this gem, published in June or July, 2000.

I opened it up, and saw the following prologue:

That first paragraph. Well said, Rudy.

Rman · « **Reply #41960 on:** September 27, 2019, 07:27:22 AM »

Rudy was a hotshot US Attorney of the SDNY. Most of the commentariat weren't born at that time lol.

Boogie · « **Reply #41961 on:** September 27, 2019, 07:59:58 AM »

Quote from: Rman on September 27, 2019, 07:27:22 AM

Rudy was a hotshot US Attorney of the SDNY. Most of the commentariat weren't born at that time lol.

Yes, I am aware of that.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #41962 on:** September 27, 2019, 08:07:05 AM »

Quote from: Trent Dole on September 27, 2019, 05:30:05 AM

https://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/1177406322565713920

https://twitter.com/anangbhai/status/1177393356370042885

kingv · « **Reply #41963 on:** September 27, 2019, 08:15:25 AM »

Does anyone think that some one ghost wrote that for Rudy now?

Like does anybody else see Rudy in an interview and say “it is 100% impossible that man is capable of writing that”?

thisismyusername · « **Reply #41964 on:** September 27, 2019, 08:21:00 AM »

Quote from: Tripon on September 27, 2019, 12:32:43 AM

https://twitter.com/ChelseaClinton/status/1177317191429120000

Trying to hawk her book, I guess.

But the question is: Is Greta going to be any different than David (show) Hogg? AKA: Makes some noise, needle isn't moved, life goes on (to the eventual extinction of the species and many more)

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #41965 on:** September 27, 2019, 09:06:56 AM »

Quote from: kingv on September 27, 2019, 08:15:25 AM

Does anyone think that some one ghost wrote that for Rudy now?

Like does anybody else see Rudy in an interview and say “it is 100% impossible that man is capable of writing that”?

He did used to sound like a normal functioning human being at one point.

benjipwns · « **Reply #41966 on:** September 27, 2019, 09:09:17 AM »

remember when he handled the Yogurt Crisis so well he won election as mayor?

Tripon · « **Reply #41967 on:** September 27, 2019, 09:12:51 AM »

https://twitter.com/davidjoachim/status/1177569887990034433

benjipwns · « **Reply #41968 on:** September 27, 2019, 09:18:13 AM »

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/opinion/impeachment-trump-mistake.html

Quote from: David Brooks

This is completely elitist. We’re in the middle of an election campaign. If Democrats proceed with the impeachment process, it will happen amid candidate debates, primaries and caucuses. Elections give millions and millions of Americans a voice in selecting the president. This process gives 100 mostly millionaire senators a voice in selecting the president.

As these two processes unfold simultaneously, the contrast will be obvious. People will conclude that Democrats are going ahead with impeachment in an election year because they don’t trust the democratic process to yield the right outcome. Democratic elites to voters: We don’t trust you. Too many of you are racists!

...

This could embed Trumpism within the G.O.P. If Trump suffers a withering loss in a straight-up election campaign, then his populist tendency might shrink and mainstream Republicans might regain primacy. An election defeat would mean the people don’t like Trumpism. But the impeachment process reinforces the core Trumpist deep-state message: The liberal elites screw people like us. If Trump’s most visible opponents are D.C. lawyers, Trumpism becomes permanent.

This could distort the Democratic primary process. It’s already obvious that impeachment upstages the Democratic primaries. In the months ahead, the Democratic candidates are going to have a harder time getting attention. Democratic policy debates are going to be obscured. Congressional Democrats will become the most visible party leaders.

Impeachment will doubtless roil the Democratic primary race in unpredictable ways. The most bellicose candidates may profit as the impeachment wars grow more vitriolic. The moderates may be further marginalized.

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Josh
Columbus
Sept. 26
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First off, let me say how much I enjoy your columns. You are often the voice of reason on these pages.

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You’re right we don’t need to impeach Trump this close to an election year. But we do need to effectively “impeach” Republicans in the senate. And that’s what all these Watergatesque sound bites will deliver when McConnell refuses to convict.

Pelosi be nimble.
Pelosi be quick.
Pelosi will knock McConnell out with this trick.

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team filler · « **Reply #41969 on:** September 27, 2019, 09:35:42 AM »

https://twitter.com/tcita/status/1177572805325524992

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #41970 on:** September 27, 2019, 09:42:22 AM »

Did he tell them that they won a boat too?

Quote from: Tripon on September 27, 2019, 09:12:51 AM

https://twitter.com/davidjoachim/status/1177569887990034433

This seems like a trap.

team filler · « **Reply #41971 on:** September 27, 2019, 09:44:10 AM »

team filler · « **Reply #41972 on:** September 27, 2019, 10:29:16 AM »

https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/status/1177582328803155968

benjipwns · « **Reply #41973 on:** September 27, 2019, 10:57:00 AM »

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“I’m the real whistleblower,” declared Giuliani, who claimed to possess more damaging information and insisted that he, too, should be entitled to whistleblower protections. “If I get killed now,” he warned, “You won’t get the rest of the story.”

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“Everybody,” he said, “thinks Soros is at the bottom of it.”

whoops

Nintex · « **Reply #41974 on:** September 27, 2019, 11:37:50 AM »

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“If I get killed now,” he warned, “You won’t get the rest of the story.”

ffs Rudy no spoilers!

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #41975 on:** September 27, 2019, 12:01:03 PM »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177539052683309056

Occam · « **Reply #41976 on:** September 27, 2019, 12:08:36 PM »

Who says mental illnesses can't be funny.

And then you remember he has the nuclear launch codes.

VomKriege · « **Reply #41977 on:** September 27, 2019, 12:14:14 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on September 27, 2019, 10:57:00 AM

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“I’m the real whistleblower,” declared Giuliani, who claimed to possess more damaging information and insisted that he, too, should be entitled to whistleblower protections. “If I get killed now,” he warned, “You won’t get the rest of the story.”
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“Everybody,” he said, “thinks Soros is at the bottom of it.”
whoops

Just saw the clip commented by Sam Seder so I am maybe missing key elements here but I don't follow (does anyone) the bit where his answer with why he was tasked with making/receiving a call for diplomatic affairs because he is Trump's lawyer.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #41978 on:** September 27, 2019, 12:43:31 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on September 27, 2019, 12:01:03 PM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177539052683309056

But that's...not a hyphen...

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"discribing"

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Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #41979 on:** September 27, 2019, 12:46:23 PM »

Trump so salty he has Liddle Syndrome.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #41980 on:** September 27, 2019, 12:47:10 PM »

“Wow, he’s purposefully looking stupid to illustrate the absurdity of the situation! Get fucked libs!”

Ninetx, probably

team filler · « **Reply #41981 on:** September 27, 2019, 01:17:32 PM »

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1177553723746344961

team filler · « **Reply #41982 on:** September 27, 2019, 01:27:55 PM »

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #41983 on:** September 27, 2019, 02:03:01 PM »

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“He recently went into a kind of trance and delivered his own prophetic version of what he believed must have happened between President Trump and the president of Ukraine. Keep in mind, that isn’t some guy babbling in the men’s room at Starbucks,” Carlson said. “That is the man who chairs the mighty House Intelligence Committee. We trust him with the most sensitive information, and yet he is clearly, demonstrably mentally ill.”

Carlson said the media is partially to blame for the situation, setting up “terrible incentives” for people to make “extreme and mindless statements” to get on television. Schiff, he added, was “a prime example.”

- fox news anchor carlson tucker

https://deadline.com/2019/09/fox-news-host-tucker-carlson-adam-schiff-mentally-ill-1202746214/

team filler · « **Reply #41984 on:** September 27, 2019, 03:11:29 PM »

our fave's can't all be reactionaries

Nintex · « **Reply #41985 on:** September 27, 2019, 03:39:29 PM »

Quote from: Stro on September 27, 2019, 01:02:20 PM

Quote from: Tripon on September 27, 2019, 09:12:51 AM
https://twitter.com/davidjoachim/status/1177569887990034433

This would actually be appropriate for Nintex to at as it's blatant trolling from Putin and is kind of funny

LMAO how did I miss this.

Trump: "What, this is illegal?"

Rudy: "Well actually I'm the Whistle blower"

Russia: "Oh fuck these morons are releasing the transcripts themselves"

Quote from: Cauliflower Of Love on September 27, 2019, 02:03:01 PM

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“He recently went into a kind of trance and delivered his own prophetic version of what he believed must have happened between President Trump and the president of Ukraine. Keep in mind, that isn’t some guy babbling in the men’s room at Starbucks,” Carlson said. “That is the man who chairs the mighty House Intelligence Committee. We trust him with the most sensitive information, and yet he is clearly, demonstrably mentally ill.”

Carlson said the media is partially to blame for the situation, setting up “terrible incentives” for people to make “extreme and mindless statements” to get on television. Schiff, he added, was “a prime example.”

- fox news anchor carlson tucker

https://deadline.com/2019/09/fox-news-host-tucker-carlson-adam-schiff-mentally-ill-1202746214/

Future Secretary of State and President Tucker Carlson.

Nintex · « **Reply #41986 on:** September 27, 2019, 03:44:30 PM »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1177669563477118976

The production values of the Trump campaign

What do the Dems have? Rob Reiner, Ted Lieu? LMAO.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #41987 on:** September 27, 2019, 03:48:22 PM »

CatsCatsCats told me not to post reactionary posts anymore, but listen man, fuck you

Nintex · « **Reply #41988 on:** September 27, 2019, 03:53:47 PM »

This'll either take out Trump or Biden so a better Democratic candidate can take his place.

I'm not seeing any downside to this.

I mean, just watch Laura slowly die inside as Rudy reads to her the messages that incriminate him.

https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1177593059573424128

After Manafort, Cohen, Flynn and a dozen others got caught. You gotta respect the hustle of trying again.