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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50821 on: February 25, 2020, 07:34:11 AM »
He looks so drunk lol

"Wait there's a town hall tonight? Too cant make me !"


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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50823 on: February 25, 2020, 08:41:34 AM »
Anyone read  Breaking the Two-Party Doom Loop: The Case for Multiparty Democracy in America?
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50824 on: February 25, 2020, 08:45:09 AM »
I had a bernie related wet dream last night :-[
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50825 on: February 25, 2020, 08:46:25 AM »
I had a bernie related wet dream last night :-[

Describe in excruciating detail or GTFO
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50826 on: February 25, 2020, 09:16:18 AM »
Julia Ioffe is pretty hot honestly. If I was Richard spencer if she wanted this fat white dick too.

Edit: her feet are like barely average though.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50827 on: February 25, 2020, 09:19:06 AM »
Protect our democracy

https://mobile.twitter.com/selectedwisdom/status/1231634266192150534

This is a lot of work put into something conservative media already does.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50828 on: February 25, 2020, 09:19:36 AM »
If I was Richard spencer if she wanted this fat white dick too.

Huh?
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50829 on: February 25, 2020, 09:36:08 AM »
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1232155591537254400

So then rapist and trial-run should recuse themselves too right?

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50830 on: February 25, 2020, 09:57:55 AM »
Julia Ioffe is pretty hot honestly. If I was Richard spencer if she wanted this fat white dick too.

Edit: her feet are like barely average though.

Though they were then how not too?

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50831 on: February 25, 2020, 10:09:42 AM »
HOLY CRIPE: Fox News Blames Stock Market Plunge On – Bernie Sanders?
https://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=44205
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50832 on: February 25, 2020, 10:12:42 AM »
HOLY CRIPE: Fox News Blames Stock Market Plunge On – Bernie Sanders?
https://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=44205

They're right. Wall Street is panicking and fluctuates whenever Sanders shows momentum. By November they could be in a sell, sell, sell frenzy which will have economic repercussions and ultimately impact the election.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50833 on: February 25, 2020, 10:20:41 AM »
*Bernie Sanders puts hand on Capitalist*

"It's afraid!"

*everyone cheers*
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50834 on: February 25, 2020, 10:22:46 AM »
HOLY CRIPE: Fox News Blames Stock Market Plunge On – Bernie Sanders?
https://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=44205

Bernie should have won and defeated hillary and trump in 2016 to provide healthcare for the world ergo no coronavirus

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50835 on: February 25, 2020, 10:32:17 AM »
HOLY CRIPE: Fox News Blames Stock Market Plunge On – Bernie Sanders?
https://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=44205

They're right. Wall Street is panicking and fluctuates whenever Sanders shows momentum.

You can't be serious. This market drop (around the globe, not just the U.S.!) is caused by COVID-19 spreading and disrupting the supply chain.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50836 on: February 25, 2020, 10:34:40 AM »
HOLY CRIPE: Fox News Blames Stock Market Plunge On – Bernie Sanders?
https://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=44205

They're right. Wall Street is panicking and fluctuates whenever Sanders shows momentum.

You can't be serious. This market drop (around the globe, not just the U.S.!) is caused by COVID-19 spreading and disrupting the supply chain.

It's both.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50837 on: February 25, 2020, 10:36:54 AM »
Julia Ioffe is pretty hot honestly. If I was Richard spencer if she wanted this fat white dick too.

Edit: her feet are like barely average though.

Though they were then how not too?

*exactly*

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50838 on: February 25, 2020, 10:38:05 AM »
HOLY CRIPE: Fox News Blames Stock Market Plunge On – Bernie Sanders?
https://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=44205

They're right. Wall Street is panicking and fluctuates whenever Sanders shows momentum.

You can't be serious. This market drop (around the globe, not just the U.S.!) is caused by COVID-19 spreading and disrupting the supply chain.

It's both.

No, it's not. Neither Asia no Europe give a damn about US presidential debates, and the markets started dropping there BEFORE the U.S. market.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50839 on: February 25, 2020, 11:14:57 AM »
I don't think Bloomberg wants to go into the conversation of fanfic vs making multiple women sign NDAs because you are too much of a putz to not say anything.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50840 on: February 25, 2020, 11:18:01 AM »
50 Shades of Bernie might actually boost him with the soccer mom demographic.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50841 on: February 25, 2020, 11:26:11 AM »
https://twitter.com/JohnBerman/status/1232299147455234048

BLOOMBERG TO FOCUS ENTIRELY ON SANDERS AT DEBATE TONIGHT

... when will this fucker realize that merely his goddamn presence is boosting sanders?

please proceed, governor dumbass

Imagine pretending to be a journalist

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50842 on: February 25, 2020, 11:54:53 AM »
I ended up reading a 1969 article bernard wrote about cancer.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2157403-sanders-cancer.html

I don't know what to do.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50844 on: February 25, 2020, 12:36:04 PM »
This tweet popped up in the more tweets in the bottom, and I thought it was a reply:

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1232026195996368897

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1232131152657440768

Cuomo had to step in, "bro this aint your rally"
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50845 on: February 25, 2020, 01:33:53 PM »
amazon washington post :nope

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50846 on: February 25, 2020, 01:36:01 PM »
Really looking forward to the debate which will be equally split between why Bernie wants to take away your healthcare, why he won't rein in his brownshirts on twitter, and why he took away your family's slaves

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50847 on: February 25, 2020, 01:45:18 PM »
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1231790013899137024

:lol

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NYT has Bret Bedbug Bitch Stephens, David Brooks, Ross Douthat and a bunch of other morons

how is NYT better exactly?

I'm not sure and I can't make this claim with scientific analytics, but it feels like WaPo releases more biased op-eds in this vein than NYT, which tends to run the gamut of political spectrums. WaPo by comparison *feels* like it's owned by Amazon and caters to Bezos' interests more than NYT caters to its interests. Now, to my credit, I can't really confirm any of this and it could very well be bias. But it's what I've sampled. :idont
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50848 on: February 25, 2020, 01:45:30 PM »
Democrats rallying against a presidential nominee for talking about free public education to combat illiteracy in 2020 when trump is literally dismantling the national education system in an attempt to privatize it.


I can't help but think that the Sanders campaign has been baiting this intentionally for the debate.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50849 on: February 25, 2020, 01:49:22 PM »
https://twitter.com/kslnewsradio/status/1231291732882526209

Why are Mike's campaign offices constantly under attack?  :-\
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50850 on: February 25, 2020, 01:52:44 PM »
https://twitter.com/kslnewsradio/status/1231291732882526209

Why are Mike's campaign offices constantly under attack?  :-\

I read of Bloomberg's volunteers phone banking and text banking for him and telling people to vote for other candidates. My theory is that it's his own volunteers that might be doing it. :lol
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50851 on: February 25, 2020, 01:53:54 PM »
Real talk I'm considering volunteering for Bloomberg for that 2100 a month and telling everyone to vote Sanders. :jayz
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50852 on: February 25, 2020, 01:54:05 PM »
There's a neatly assorted pile of rocks inside the office  :thinking
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50853 on: February 25, 2020, 01:59:54 PM »
why is the broken glass on the outside of the window?

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50854 on: February 25, 2020, 02:00:49 PM »
why is the broken glass on the outside of the window?
Because those communist broke into his offices first  >:(
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50855 on: February 25, 2020, 02:01:30 PM »
Why won’t Bernie denounce radical broslamic terrorism?
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50856 on: February 25, 2020, 02:03:31 PM »
Trumps beautiful stock market is collapsing

Re-election campaign in shambles.



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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50857 on: February 25, 2020, 02:04:13 PM »
Trumps beautiful stock market is collapsing

Re-election campaign in shambles.
Larry says we should all buy.
He also says Bernie's message won't work.
https://twitter.com/MBAllDay1/status/1232379723323518976

Trust Larry
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50858 on: February 25, 2020, 02:09:01 PM »
If we're down 1,000 points two days in a row, Bernie is getting a donation
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50859 on: February 25, 2020, 02:11:33 PM »
That's just Russia hacking the market to help Bernie against Mike.
Clearly Larry has not stopped drinking so there's nothing to worry about.

Also Trump is in India. Once he returns back to helm the ship and kick out the commies everyone will calm down.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50860 on: February 25, 2020, 02:13:11 PM »
Real talk I'm considering volunteering for Bloomberg for that 2100 a month and telling everyone to vote Sanders. :jayz
how do we get in on this?  :whoo
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50861 on: February 25, 2020, 02:19:15 PM »
The 1% taking an intentional concerted tumble to make sure the revolution doesn't happen.

It's time boys (and girls).

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50862 on: February 25, 2020, 02:22:18 PM »
Real talk I'm considering volunteering for Bloomberg for that 2100 a month and telling everyone to vote Sanders. :jayz
how do we get in on this?  :whoo

https://www.gq.com/story/bloomberg-copy-paste-warriors

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50864 on: February 25, 2020, 02:41:26 PM »
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We found that nominating Sanders would drive many Americans who would otherwise vote for a moderate Democrat to vote for Trump

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50867 on: February 25, 2020, 04:12:12 PM »
Bob Iger out as Disney CEO

BERNIE HAS THEM SHOOK
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50868 on: February 25, 2020, 04:30:36 PM »
Bob Iger out as Disney CEO

BERNIE HAS THEM SHOOK

Finally time for better representation :rejoice
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50869 on: February 25, 2020, 04:31:07 PM »
trump soon: "I don't even know the stock market."
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50870 on: February 25, 2020, 04:39:57 PM »
Muchos Gracias Senorito Beto!

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50871 on: February 25, 2020, 04:40:40 PM »
Coronavirus killing all the old people is good news for Bernie.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50872 on: February 25, 2020, 04:41:48 PM »
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50873 on: February 25, 2020, 04:42:47 PM »
Coronavirus killing all the old people is good news for Bernie.

Bernie is also old.

Btw I had a dream Trump caught covid19
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50874 on: February 25, 2020, 04:43:46 PM »
Maybe the primary can be “wait 6 months see who is still alive”

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50875 on: February 25, 2020, 04:51:32 PM »
The latino tio bernie vote is gonna be insane in TX.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50876 on: February 25, 2020, 04:57:41 PM »
70 former U.S. senators: The Senate is failing to perform its constitutional duties

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/former-us-senators-the-senate-is-failing-to-perform-its-constitutional-duties/2020/02/25/b9bdd22a-5743-11ea-9000-f3cffee23036_story.html

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The following signers are all former U.S. senators: Dean Barkley (I-Minn.), Max Baucus (D-Mont.), Mark Begich (D-Alaska), Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.), David Boren (D-Okla.), Bill Bradley (D-N.J.), Bill Brock (R-Tenn.), Hank Brown (R-Colo.), Richard Bryan (D-Nev.), James Buckley (R-N.Y.), Roland Burris (D-Ill.), Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-Colo.), Jean Carnahan (D-Mo.), Max Cleland (D-Ga.), William Cohen (R-Maine), Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), Jon Corzine (D-N.J.), Jack Danforth (R-Mo.), Tom Daschle (D-S.D.), Mark Dayton (D-Minn.), Dennis DeConcini (D-Ariz.), Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Joe Donnelly (D-Ind.), Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.), David Durenberger (R-Minn.), Daniel Evans (R-Wash.), Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), Wyche Fowler (D-Ga.), Slade Gorton (R-Wash.), Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Gary Hart (D-Colo.), Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.), Gordon Humphrey (I-N.H.), Tim Johnson (D-S.D.), Bennett Johnston (D-La.), Ted Kaufman (D-Del.), Bob Kerrey (D-Neb.), John Kerry (D-Mass.), Paul Kirk (D-Mass.), Robert Krueger (D-Tex.), Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Carl Levin (D-Mich.), Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.), Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.), Carol Moseley Braun (D-Ill.), Frank Murkowski (R-Alaska), Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), Bill Nelson (D-Fla.), Sam Nunn (D-Ga.), Bob Packwood (R-Ore.), Larry Pressler (R-S.D.), David Pryor (D-Ark.), Mark Pryor (D-Ark.), Donald Riegle (D-Mich.), Chuck Robb (D-Va.), Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), Ken Salazar (D-Colo.), Jim Sasser (D-Tenn.), Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.), Gordon Smith (R-Ore.), Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), Bob Torricelli (D-N.J.), Mark Udall (D-Colo.), John Walsh (D-Mont.), John Warner (R-Va.), Lowell Weicker (I-Conn.), and Tim Wirth (D-Colo.).

An open letter to the U.S. Senate:

Congress is not fulfilling its constitutional duties. Much of the responsibility rests on the Senate. We are writing to encourage the creation of a bipartisan caucus of incumbent senators who would be committed to making the Senate function as the Framers of the Constitution intended.

As their first priority, the Framers explicitly entrusted all legislative responsibility in Article I of the Constitution: “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.” To the extent that Congress doesn’t function as the Framers intended, policymaking is left to the less democratic executive and judicial branches.

Examples of Congress ceding its powers to the executive through the years include the power to regulate international trade, the power to authorize the use of military force in foreign conflicts and, when the president declares national emergencies, the power of the purse. In addition, the partisan gridlock that is all too routine in recent decades has led the executive branch to effectively “legislate” on its own terms through executive order and administrative regulation. The Senate’s abdication of its legislative and oversight responsibilities erodes the checks and balances of the separate powers that are designed to protect the liberties on which our democracy depends.

Anecdotally, we have been told by sitting members that the diminished state of the Senate has left them doubting whether there is any point in continuing to serve, and it has caused potential candidates to question whether the reality of Senate membership is worth the considerable effort and expense of running for office.

We do not want to give the impression that we served in some golden age when the Senate operated like clockwork and its members embraced one another as one big happy family. Of course, that was never the case. Senators have always advanced strongly held positions and have vigorously engaged in legislative combat. All of us have vivid memories of tense times with difficult colleagues. But that is just the point. By design, the Senate is the place where Americans with all their competing interests and ideologies are represented and where champions of those positions attempt to advance their causes and work through their differences. Many call the legislative process “sausage making.” That is a fair assessment. Legislating is often messy, but it is America’s way of holding together a diverse nation.

Our concern is that the legislative process is no longer working in the Senate. Several factors may be cited: Senate committees have lost responsibility for writing legislation. Rules allowing extended debate, a feature of the Senate that is essential to protecting the rights of minorities, have been abused as the filibuster and cloture have shut down action on the Senate floor. It is now commonly said that it takes 60 votes to pass anything in the Senate. This is new and obstructionist; it takes 60 votes to invoke cloture in the once relatively exceptional event of a filibuster. Filibusters are now threatened as a matter of course and are too readily acceded to. Neither in committee nor on the floor do rank-and-file members have reasonable opportunities to advance their positions by voting on legislation.

We believe a bipartisan caucus of incumbent members that promotes a fair opportunity for senators to participate in meaningful committee work as well as on the Senate floor could help restore the Senate to its essential place in our constitutional system. Its members would need to stand firm in the face of what could be strong opposition from partisans who prefer politicians who take intransigent positions over those who champion a legislative process that celebrates compromise.

This does not have to be viewed as a judgment on today’s Senate leadership; instead, it’s a bipartisan act of shared responsibility and accountability for how we arrived at this point. We, who once held the office you now hold and who are confident that service in the U.S. Senate is as high a calling for you as it was for us, will stand up for you against any partisan opposition. We will do so publicly and repeatedly in whatever available forums. And we are convinced that many ordinary Americans will stand up for you as well, as they share our concern for the state of our government.

We know that accepting this challenge may put some of you at political risk. But we are also confident that each of you chose to serve in public life to advance the cause of a “more perfect union.” Our hope is that all of you will accept this challenge to advance that timeless and higher purpose. The Senate — and the proper functioning of our Republic — are simply too important to be allowed to continue on their present course.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50877 on: February 25, 2020, 05:01:49 PM »
https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1231790013899137024
He should have quoted this line from Bernie's big plan page instead of some stump stuff:
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after 2035 electricity will be virtually free, aside from operations and maintenance costs.

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| #putbloombergintheegg
« Reply #50878 on: February 25, 2020, 05:03:59 PM »
70 former U.S. senators: The Senate is failing to perform its constitutional duties

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/former-us-senators-the-senate-is-failing-to-perform-its-constitutional-duties/2020/02/25/b9bdd22a-5743-11ea-9000-f3cffee23036_story.html

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The following signers are all former U.S. senators: Dean Barkley (I-Minn.), Max Baucus (D-Mont.), Mark Begich (D-Alaska), Jeff Bingaman (D-N.M.), David Boren (D-Okla.), Bill Bradley (D-N.J.), Bill Brock (R-Tenn.), Hank Brown (R-Colo.), Richard Bryan (D-Nev.), James Buckley (R-N.Y.), Roland Burris (D-Ill.), Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-Colo.), Jean Carnahan (D-Mo.), Max Cleland (D-Ga.), William Cohen (R-Maine), Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), Jon Corzine (D-N.J.), Jack Danforth (R-Mo.), Tom Daschle (D-S.D.), Mark Dayton (D-Minn.), Dennis DeConcini (D-Ariz.), Chris Dodd (D-Conn.), Joe Donnelly (D-Ind.), Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.), David Durenberger (R-Minn.), Daniel Evans (R-Wash.), Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), Wyche Fowler (D-Ga.), Slade Gorton (R-Wash.), Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.), Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Gary Hart (D-Colo.), Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.), Gordon Humphrey (I-N.H.), Tim Johnson (D-S.D.), Bennett Johnston (D-La.), Ted Kaufman (D-Del.), Bob Kerrey (D-Neb.), John Kerry (D-Mass.), Paul Kirk (D-Mass.), Robert Krueger (D-Tex.), Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Carl Levin (D-Mich.), Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.), Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.), Carol Moseley Braun (D-Ill.), Frank Murkowski (R-Alaska), Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), Bill Nelson (D-Fla.), Sam Nunn (D-Ga.), Bob Packwood (R-Ore.), Larry Pressler (R-S.D.), David Pryor (D-Ark.), Mark Pryor (D-Ark.), Donald Riegle (D-Mich.), Chuck Robb (D-Va.), Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.), Ken Salazar (D-Colo.), Jim Sasser (D-Tenn.), Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.), Gordon Smith (R-Ore.), Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), Bob Torricelli (D-N.J.), Mark Udall (D-Colo.), John Walsh (D-Mont.), John Warner (R-Va.), Lowell Weicker (I-Conn.), and Tim Wirth (D-Colo.).

An open letter to the U.S. Senate:

Congress is not fulfilling its constitutional duties. Much of the responsibility rests on the Senate. We are writing to encourage the creation of a bipartisan caucus of incumbent senators who would be committed to making the Senate function as the Framers of the Constitution intended.

As their first priority, the Framers explicitly entrusted all legislative responsibility in Article I of the Constitution: “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.” To the extent that Congress doesn’t function as the Framers intended, policymaking is left to the less democratic executive and judicial branches.

Examples of Congress ceding its powers to the executive through the years include the power to regulate international trade, the power to authorize the use of military force in foreign conflicts and, when the president declares national emergencies, the power of the purse. In addition, the partisan gridlock that is all too routine in recent decades has led the executive branch to effectively “legislate” on its own terms through executive order and administrative regulation. The Senate’s abdication of its legislative and oversight responsibilities erodes the checks and balances of the separate powers that are designed to protect the liberties on which our democracy depends.

Anecdotally, we have been told by sitting members that the diminished state of the Senate has left them doubting whether there is any point in continuing to serve, and it has caused potential candidates to question whether the reality of Senate membership is worth the considerable effort and expense of running for office.

We do not want to give the impression that we served in some golden age when the Senate operated like clockwork and its members embraced one another as one big happy family. Of course, that was never the case. Senators have always advanced strongly held positions and have vigorously engaged in legislative combat. All of us have vivid memories of tense times with difficult colleagues. But that is just the point. By design, the Senate is the place where Americans with all their competing interests and ideologies are represented and where champions of those positions attempt to advance their causes and work through their differences. Many call the legislative process “sausage making.” That is a fair assessment. Legislating is often messy, but it is America’s way of holding together a diverse nation.

Our concern is that the legislative process is no longer working in the Senate. Several factors may be cited: Senate committees have lost responsibility for writing legislation. Rules allowing extended debate, a feature of the Senate that is essential to protecting the rights of minorities, have been abused as the filibuster and cloture have shut down action on the Senate floor. It is now commonly said that it takes 60 votes to pass anything in the Senate. This is new and obstructionist; it takes 60 votes to invoke cloture in the once relatively exceptional event of a filibuster. Filibusters are now threatened as a matter of course and are too readily acceded to. Neither in committee nor on the floor do rank-and-file members have reasonable opportunities to advance their positions by voting on legislation.

We believe a bipartisan caucus of incumbent members that promotes a fair opportunity for senators to participate in meaningful committee work as well as on the Senate floor could help restore the Senate to its essential place in our constitutional system. Its members would need to stand firm in the face of what could be strong opposition from partisans who prefer politicians who take intransigent positions over those who champion a legislative process that celebrates compromise.

This does not have to be viewed as a judgment on today’s Senate leadership; instead, it’s a bipartisan act of shared responsibility and accountability for how we arrived at this point. We, who once held the office you now hold and who are confident that service in the U.S. Senate is as high a calling for you as it was for us, will stand up for you against any partisan opposition. We will do so publicly and repeatedly in whatever available forums. And we are convinced that many ordinary Americans will stand up for you as well, as they share our concern for the state of our government.

We know that accepting this challenge may put some of you at political risk. But we are also confident that each of you chose to serve in public life to advance the cause of a “more perfect union.” Our hope is that all of you will accept this challenge to advance that timeless and higher purpose. The Senate — and the proper functioning of our Republic — are simply too important to be allowed to continue on their present course.
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Of course none of the Banana Republicans are going to care...
That's a pretty good list of people who signed off on exactly this kind of stuff:
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Examples of Congress ceding its powers to the executive through the years include the power to regulate international trade, the power to authorize the use of military force in foreign conflicts and, when the president declares national emergencies, the power of the purse. ... ed the executive branch to effectively “legislate” on its own terms through executive order and administrative regulation. The Senate’s abdication of its legislative and oversight responsibilities erodes the checks and balances of the separate powers that are designed to protect the liberties on which our democracy depends.
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