Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 6979934 times)

benjipwns · « **Reply #57600 on:** May 04, 2020, 08:50:02 PM »

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/trump-is-really-aiming-to-take-down-fox

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According to sources, an investor group aligned with his son Don Jr. and the Dallas-based Hicks family has acquired a major stake in One America News Network, the fledgling conservative cable-news channel that features hosts like Jack Posobiec, a chief promoter of the Pizzagate conspiracy. “[RNC co-chair] Tommy Hicks and Don Jr. have been looking to buy a station for Trump TV,” said one source briefed on the talks. “This is all about building a Fox competitor. Trump is really aiming to take down Fox,” the person briefed on the deal told me. (A person close to Hicks said he resigned his position from the family business when he joined the RNC and isn’t involved in the OANN deal).

During impeachment, OANN distinguished itself by its brazen airing of pro-Trump propaganda. OANN ran a three-part series hosted by Rudy Giuliani promoting Trump’s conspiracy that it was Ukraine, not Russia, that meddled in the 2016 election. Former Trump campaign aide Michael Caputo—the current spokesman for the Department of Health and Human Services—hosted a prime-time special titled: The Ukraine Hoax: Impeachment, Biden Cash, Mass Murder.

Sources said the deal has been dragging on for months, and hasn't yet closed. In January the Wall Street Journal reported that Hicks Equity Partners was in talks to invest $250 million to acquire OANN from parent company Herring Networks Inc. Sources told me OANN president Charles Herring was asking $300 million for the channel, a price the Trump group felt was too high (one source said the final price was around $200 million). It’s unclear whether Don Jr. invested Trump family funds in the deal or was given equity. The infusion of cash will allow OANN to improve production values and expand its modest distribution of 35 million homes (Fox News is available in more than 90 million homes).

“While Don has long enjoyed a close friendship with Tommy Hicks and his family, he is not part of any investment group looking to acquire OANN,” a spokesperson for Donald Trump Jr. said in a statement. “Should the Hicks family acquire the network, Don has no doubt that they will make OANN an even bigger success.”

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For Trump, the network serves as both a tactical weapon in the 2020 campaign and a strategic hedge in case he needs a new platform after November. One source told me that if Trump loses, he could use OANN as his post-presidential television platform to host shows. Controlling a network has been something Trump has been mulling since the 2016 election. Thinking he would lose, per the source, Trump dispatched his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, to raise money to launch Trump TV. According to the source, Trump considered buying the Weather Channel, then owned by Blackstone, and converting it into a Trump TV network. The deal didn’t go forward because Blackstone CEO Stephen Schwarzman wanted $450 million, far more than the $300 million Trump was willing to pay. (A person close to Kushner denies this. A Blackstone spokesperson also denies the account.)

“Trump’s big thing was always to own a network and be a multibillionaire,” the source said. “If Trump loses, he can be on OANN all the time. And before he leaves office, he has months to pump it up.”

Tasty · « **Reply #57601 on:** May 04, 2020, 09:18:55 PM »

Quote from: Stro on May 04, 2020, 08:55:19 PM

I would just like to point out that before Mike Pence was selected as VP, he wanted to start a state run propaganda news agency where all news to be disseminated had to be approved of by him or his committee of selected officials, and the idea was that they'd basically co-opt all the local television affiliates who would then get all of their news from his agency of pre-approved only news stories.

Mike Pence is horrible but that's hardly the worst reason.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #57602 on:** May 04, 2020, 09:22:21 PM »

OANN is for people who think Fox News is too liberal.

Tripon · « **Reply #57603 on:** May 04, 2020, 09:34:59 PM »

Chanel Rion from OAN is a favorite of Trump for some reason.

Also has some of her own coronavirus conspiracy theory. https://twitter.com/frankluntz/status/1240687017433825285

benjipwns · « **Reply #57604 on:** May 04, 2020, 09:35:55 PM »

Quote from: Stro on May 04, 2020, 09:32:23 PM

Actually it's kind of strange he hasn't formed his own network since that was actually the reason he ran for president in the first place and was testing it out right before the election in 2016. I guess the lawyers stepped in and told him absolutely not while you're president.

They basically had access to Fox News whenever they wanted for a few years there and that was the easier route especially while in office, but Fox News has cut back on their time (especially the rest of the family and "allies" not Trump himself) and even allowed criticism so they responded with this. They probably also came to realize that his term in office might be ending so they should start looking back into the idea of their own. It's not like they can buy Fox News.

Tasty · « **Reply #57605 on:** May 04, 2020, 09:44:32 PM »

Quote from: Stro on May 04, 2020, 09:32:23 PM

Actually it's kind of strange he hasn't formed his own network since that was actually the reason he ran for president in the first place and was testing it out right before the election in 2016. I guess the lawyers stepped in and told him absolutely not while you're president.

Yeah, pretty much my thoughts. He's gonna milk his term(s) for the rest of his life business-wise though. "OFFICIAL PRESIDENTIAL MERCHANDISE!!!!"

team filler · « **Reply #57606 on:** May 04, 2020, 10:56:48 PM »

https://twitter.com/generalslug/status/1257448686562443264

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #57607 on:** May 04, 2020, 10:58:55 PM »

Quote from: hhkcvaoitsso on May 04, 2020, 07:32:28 PM

(Image removed from quote.)

Oh my god.

emoticon plz.

benjipwns · « **Reply #57608 on:** May 05, 2020, 12:31:13 AM »

Quote from: Esch on May 04, 2020, 11:58:19 PM

They call it the neocon to trot pipeline, folks

That means there's going to be a bunch of Trot -> Neocon -> Trot happening?

benjipwns · « **Reply #57609 on:** May 05, 2020, 12:33:57 AM »

lol from that second interview:

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Q. Nikole Hannah-Jones, the lead writer and leader of the 1619 Project, includes a statement in her essay—and I would say that this is the thesis of the project—that “anti-black racism runs in the very DNA of this country.”

A. Yes, I saw that too. It does not make very much sense to me. I suppose she’s using DNA metaphorically.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #57610 on:** May 05, 2020, 01:04:25 AM »

those interviews are actually good and in esp the mcpherson one you get a glimpse that the kerfuffle’s indicative of a deeper division in the historiography, rather than a pitched battle between uninformed journalists and judicious experts. and, idk, i kinda find the performative bewilderment at afro-pessimism by silent generation white intellectuals just a little distasteful?

also p sure cruz just googled “historian 1619 project”

benjipwns · « **Reply #57611 on:** May 05, 2020, 01:18:08 AM »

I honestly haven't paid much attention to it but if this is true about 1619:

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that Lincoln was a racist and that the Civil War therefore was unrelated to the fight to abolish slavery;

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central premises of the 1619 Project: ... the two seminal events of American history—the Revolution and Civil War—were either opposed or unrelated to the liberation of the slaves.

I now am going to search for Thomas Woods' opinions on it.

edit: he doesn't seem to think much of it despite this I don't think:
https://twitter.com/ThomasEWoods/status/1164908425786077184

benjipwns · « **Reply #57612 on:** May 05, 2020, 02:42:09 AM »

https://twitter.com/Bill_Cimbrelo/status/1257495175112413187

team filler · « **Reply #57613 on:** May 05, 2020, 02:43:07 AM »

Ghoul · « **Reply #57614 on:** May 05, 2020, 07:01:45 AM »

https://twitter.com/prokchorp/status/1257503054578008075

https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/local/daughter-of-man-in-72-biden-crash-seeks-apology-from-widowed-senator/article_6c9a477e-63be-561b-b771-1330b4cda02d.html

Nintex · « **Reply #57615 on:** May 05, 2020, 07:43:37 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on May 04, 2020, 08:50:02 PM

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/trump-is-really-aiming-to-take-down-fox
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According to sources, an investor group aligned with his son Don Jr. and the Dallas-based Hicks family has acquired a major stake in One America News Network, the fledgling conservative cable-news channel that features hosts like Jack Posobiec, a chief promoter of the Pizzagate conspiracy. “[RNC co-chair] Tommy Hicks and Don Jr. have been looking to buy a station for Trump TV,” said one source briefed on the talks. “This is all about building a Fox competitor. Trump is really aiming to take down Fox,” the person briefed on the deal told me. (A person close to Hicks said he resigned his position from the family business when he joined the RNC and isn’t involved in the OANN deal).

During impeachment, OANN distinguished itself by its brazen airing of pro-Trump propaganda. OANN ran a three-part series hosted by Rudy Giuliani promoting Trump’s conspiracy that it was Ukraine, not Russia, that meddled in the 2016 election. Former Trump campaign aide Michael Caputo—the current spokesman for the Department of Health and Human Services—hosted a prime-time special titled: The Ukraine Hoax: Impeachment, Biden Cash, Mass Murder.

Sources said the deal has been dragging on for months, and hasn't yet closed. In January the Wall Street Journal reported that Hicks Equity Partners was in talks to invest $250 million to acquire OANN from parent company Herring Networks Inc. Sources told me OANN president Charles Herring was asking $300 million for the channel, a price the Trump group felt was too high (one source said the final price was around $200 million). It’s unclear whether Don Jr. invested Trump family funds in the deal or was given equity. The infusion of cash will allow OANN to improve production values and expand its modest distribution of 35 million homes (Fox News is available in more than 90 million homes).

“While Don has long enjoyed a close friendship with Tommy Hicks and his family, he is not part of any investment group looking to acquire OANN,” a spokesperson for Donald Trump Jr. said in a statement. “Should the Hicks family acquire the network, Don has no doubt that they will make OANN an even bigger success.”
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For Trump, the network serves as both a tactical weapon in the 2020 campaign and a strategic hedge in case he needs a new platform after November. One source told me that if Trump loses, he could use OANN as his post-presidential television platform to host shows. Controlling a network has been something Trump has been mulling since the 2016 election. Thinking he would lose, per the source, Trump dispatched his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, to raise money to launch Trump TV. According to the source, Trump considered buying the Weather Channel, then owned by Blackstone, and converting it into a Trump TV network. The deal didn’t go forward because Blackstone CEO Stephen Schwarzman wanted $450 million, far more than the $300 million Trump was willing to pay. (A person close to Kushner denies this. A Blackstone spokesperson also denies the account.)

“Trump’s big thing was always to own a network and be a multibillionaire,” the source said. “If Trump loses, he can be on OANN all the time. And before he leaves office, he has months to pump it up.”

This is why people like Bill Maher are fighting the wrong battle. They think that Trump won't leave office willingly when instead he'll be glad to leave when the economy turns sour.
All he has to do is spit fire on Sleepy Joe from his Mar A Lago resort. He'll channel all the anger from his supporters to Trump TV. Plus he'll have access to guests the other channels can only hope for.
Trump TV with an exclusive interview with Kim Jong Un about the ongoing tensions between the United States and North Korea.

After 4 years they'll be back in the ring with Ivanka or Don Jr. to take the country back. In fact, I can even see them completely take-over or split the GOP by forming their own 'Trump Party'.
Trump was also caught discussing a new reality TV show with Mark Burnett who will be a big part in working on the programming for this Trump TV Network.
They don't necessarily have to win the election for the brand a one time loss might even be better

Tripon · « **Reply #57616 on:** May 05, 2020, 02:25:25 PM »

https://twitter.com/dmartosko/status/1257736273500033025

team filler · « **Reply #57617 on:** May 05, 2020, 02:38:15 PM »

Nintex · « **Reply #57618 on:** May 05, 2020, 03:01:15 PM »

Just exactly how high is the President today

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1257744456591130624

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1257741326650470400

Nintex · « **Reply #57619 on:** May 05, 2020, 03:33:25 PM »

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1257456499414220802

Nintex · « **Reply #57620 on:** May 05, 2020, 03:44:17 PM »

A new plot line appears
https://twitter.com/VanityFair/status/1257755458170949634

Who the hell is yahoo
https://twitter.com/YahooNews/status/1257758270787391489

team filler · « **Reply #57621 on:** May 05, 2020, 03:57:51 PM »

Nintex · « **Reply #57622 on:** May 05, 2020, 04:04:33 PM »

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1257759028886867968

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1257761572245704704

Total beast mode today

Skullfuckers Anonymous · « **Reply #57623 on:** May 05, 2020, 04:08:44 PM »

Warren fans having a hard time coping.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TarronBrump/status/1257719081345495047

Nintex · « **Reply #57624 on:** May 05, 2020, 04:10:05 PM »

MKUltra is real

Mandark · « **Reply #57625 on:** May 05, 2020, 04:24:21 PM »

So about all this Jesse Ventura speculation, isn't it too late in the primary process for him to get enough delegates?

benjipwns · « **Reply #57626 on:** May 05, 2020, 04:42:49 PM »

~40% of the Green delegates will not be assigned through primaries as none for those states were ever scheduled, this could possibly be more depending on how many more primaries they actually hold.

The Libertarian Party situation is similar, plus someone, like say Amash, can simply win at the Convention as delegates are not bound.

In neither party is anyone remotely close to the number of delegates needed.

Mandark · « **Reply #57627 on:** May 05, 2020, 04:51:43 PM »

So the party elites and superdelegates are going to force their choice down the voters throats, even though the nominee they picked last time lost badly? Sounds like they haven't learned their lesson.

benjipwns · « **Reply #57628 on:** May 05, 2020, 05:01:08 PM »

Quote from: hhkcvaoitsso on May 05, 2020, 04:56:34 PM

the green party is

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Mandark · « **Reply #57629 on:** May 05, 2020, 05:02:49 PM »

Luckily I don't live in a swing state, so I can cast a protest vote for a third party candidate like Joe Biden.

team filler · « **Reply #57630 on:** May 05, 2020, 05:05:33 PM »

https://mobile.twitter.com/PALMAUNLlMITED/status/1257719498171269121

benjipwns · « **Reply #57631 on:** May 05, 2020, 05:11:27 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on May 05, 2020, 05:02:49 PM

Luckily I don't live in a swing state, so I can cast a protest vote for a third party candidate like Joe Biden.

Fine, just throw your vote away on a party that already has mandatory ballot access. Some of us don't have that level of privilege.

team filler · « **Reply #57632 on:** May 05, 2020, 05:18:16 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on May 05, 2020, 04:24:21 PM

So about all this Jesse Ventura speculation, isn't it too late in the primary process for him to get enough delegates?

he already dropped out, mensch

nachobro · « **Reply #57633 on:** May 05, 2020, 05:21:22 PM »

https://twitter.com/GovJVentura/status/1257701556725731328

https://twitter.com/GovJVentura/status/1257701558508302336

he's too good for us

team filler · « **Reply #57634 on:** May 05, 2020, 05:25:52 PM »

Occam · « **Reply #57635 on:** May 05, 2020, 05:28:42 PM »

That's nice, coming from Trump supporters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Spoiler: There's more than 40 allegations.

Mandark · « **Reply #57636 on:** May 05, 2020, 05:29:12 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on May 05, 2020, 05:11:27 PM

Quote from: Mandark on May 05, 2020, 05:02:49 PM
Luckily I don't live in a swing state, so I can cast a protest vote for a third party candidate like Joe Biden.
Fine, just throw your vote away on a party that already has mandatory ballot access. Some of us don't have that level of privilege.

Five percent, the magic tipping point!

benjipwns · « **Reply #57637 on:** May 05, 2020, 05:30:32 PM »

what is going on with Joe's lower body there

Tripon · « **Reply #57638 on:** May 05, 2020, 05:32:25 PM »

https://twitter.com/RossBarkan/status/1257695920847806470 fuck this guy

https://twitter.com/gregpmiller/status/1257712925139181569

Fuck this guy too

team filler · « **Reply #57639 on:** May 05, 2020, 05:33:15 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on May 05, 2020, 05:30:32 PM

what is going on with Joe's lower body there

https://mobile.twitter.com/TarronBrump/status/1257719081345495047

Occam · « **Reply #57640 on:** May 05, 2020, 05:53:05 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on May 05, 2020, 05:32:25 PM

https://twitter.com/RossBarkan/status/1257695920847806470 fuck this guy

https://twitter.com/gregpmiller/status/1257712925139181569

Fuck this guy too

Regarding the Trumps, I am having a hard time deciding who's the most disgusting member of that family.

benjipwns · « **Reply #57641 on:** May 05, 2020, 05:54:27 PM »

It's Eric.

team filler · « **Reply #57642 on:** May 05, 2020, 05:56:09 PM »

Quote from: riotous on May 05, 2020, 05:54:48 PM

Kushner is probably the worst.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #57643 on:** May 05, 2020, 05:58:10 PM »

Which of his two criminal dads do you think he looks up to the most?

team filler · « **Reply #57644 on:** May 05, 2020, 06:25:17 PM »

https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1257788671777964034

team filler · « **Reply #57645 on:** May 05, 2020, 06:33:41 PM »

how we gonna pay for it!

Nintex · « **Reply #57646 on:** May 05, 2020, 06:39:46 PM »

I believe it was Bannon that reported or leaked that Kushner on occasion blurted out: "I'm a real-estate guy Donald, I don't know a fucking thing about politics or how to run a country" when the campaign turned into a dumpster fire.
And in 2018, when Trump was in his hooking up with strong tough generals phase he actually wanted them to leave

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Privately, some aides have expressed frustration that Mr. Kushner and his wife, the president’s daughter Ivanka Trump, have remained at the White House, despite Mr. Trump at times saying they never should have come to the White House and should leave. Yet aides also noted that Mr. Trump has told the couple that they should keep serving in their roles, even as he has privately asked Mr. Kelly for his help in moving them out.

But we all know how that ended. The family turned Trump against Kelly and used the Mueller investigation to get rid of all the 'traitors' and now Kushner is acting President.

Mandark · « **Reply #57647 on:** May 05, 2020, 06:56:18 PM »

Quote from: hhkcvaoitsso on May 05, 2020, 06:34:48 PM

btw, just so everyone is clear, I don't have an issue with justice democrats forming a super pac. I'm mad that there was four years of politically inexperienced people deluding themselves into thinking that elections don't take money or that the bernie sanders' fundraising strategy was a reasonable strategy for the rest of the ballot. and then I had to sit through people absolutely dragging Elizabeth Warren over and over again because she said stuff like "we need to use money to win the election because the other side has money and it's a real advantage, and after that we can and should seal the gates." Just a bunch of needless internecine conflict that helped make the primaries unbearable.

but also I am mad that the insurgent radicals are deciding they're gonna play big money politics now, this election is so cursed

Warren shouldn't have made such a big deal about having a PAC if she wasn't willing to stick to it as things got rough but the "aha! she was a corporate candidate all along!" was super dumb.

Thinking of all the money that got sunk into the primaries just so we could wind up with Joe Biden, and how many progressive candidates for local and state offices could have had their whole campaigns paid for with it. How many Larry Krasners could we have gotten elected for that price tag?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

The optimistic side of this is presidential campaigns drive attention in a way that's unique in American politics, so besides the usual Overton Window stuff there's a generation of young left-ish people with some practical experience in campaigning and organizing.

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Mandark · « **Reply #57648 on:** May 05, 2020, 07:05:35 PM »

Let yourself dream!

Some greenhorn on Bernie's campaign could be inspired, just like a young Hillary Clinton was when she volunteered for Eugene McCarthy.

curly · « **Reply #57649 on:** May 05, 2020, 07:09:05 PM »

Sending my stimulus check to the naxalites to counteract the bad vibes in this thread

Occam · « **Reply #57650 on:** May 05, 2020, 07:11:55 PM »

Quote from: Esch on May 05, 2020, 06:32:55 PM

https://twitter.com/kaylatausche/status/1257388266845810689

Look on the bright side: Since almost all of this is going more or less directly into the accounts of the one percent, there'll be little inflation because it'll never enter circulation.

Mandark · « **Reply #57651 on:** May 05, 2020, 07:14:10 PM »

I like the Squad because they're liberals and support the Democratic Party, just like Bernie Sanders, Terry McAuliffe, and me.

curly · « **Reply #57652 on:** May 05, 2020, 07:16:47 PM »

Mandark · « **Reply #57653 on:** May 05, 2020, 07:21:34 PM »

spoiler (click to show/hide)

This meme is extra accurate because Spider-Man is good and just like that Spider-Verse movie, it would be awesome to have more than one of him so they could team up.

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curly · « **Reply #57654 on:** May 05, 2020, 07:25:17 PM »

https://twitter.com/GloriaLaRiva/status/1257693306319826944

Reading this tweet over and over to calm myself

Mandark · « **Reply #57655 on:** May 05, 2020, 07:53:58 PM »

This election is like Harry Potter.

Biden is Harry Potter, Mayor Pete is Ron Weasley, Bernie Sanders is Hermione Granger, and together they're going to Expelliarmus Voldemort (Drumpf) right out of the Oval Office!

Tripon · « **Reply #57656 on:** May 05, 2020, 07:53:58 PM »

https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1257801082165739520

Mandark · « **Reply #57657 on:** May 05, 2020, 08:02:02 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on May 03, 2020, 08:14:33 PM

https://twitter.com/zei_squirrel/status/1257089736025559042

https://twitter.com/cenkuygur/status/1257773851355701248

While I understand the frustration of Democrats like Charlotte Clymer and Cenk Uygur with Republican leaders, we should not succumb and lash out against our fellow American citizens in red states, who deserve our support regardless.

nachobro · « **Reply #57658 on:** May 05, 2020, 08:20:06 PM »

"we need to win over as many voters as possible which includes moderates and former trump voters but also we should punish the states run by people we don't like as harshly as we possibly can"

Mandark · « **Reply #57659 on:** May 05, 2020, 08:23:48 PM »

He needs an internal censor that can tell him

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Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 6979934 times)