Holy Shit Death Stranding is beautiful nonsense

[Raist]

You expect game directors to be at their desk every day to write some code? What year is this, 1985?

Yeah, I expect that the majority of a Creative Director's week will be spent with the team reviewing their work and setting direction. I've been in game dev for 25 years. Not sure what experience you're drawing on.

Following Kojima's twitter
Not really.

In any case, I think the whole "he's constantly traveling" might be a little bit overblown

[thisismyusername]

You expect game directors to be at their desk every day to write some code? What year is this, 1985?

Yeah, I expect that the majority of a Creative Director's week will be spent with the team reviewing their work and setting direction. I've been in game dev for 25 years. Not sure what experience you're drawing on.

Following Kojima's twitter
Not really.

In any case, I think the whole "he's constantly traveling" might be a little bit overblown

Breh, he's doing a "world tour" right now instead of patches/fixing things with his team. Him and Shinikawa.

Beyond that, he traveled to visit:

-Valve
-Guriella
-Remedy
-Other game studios that I'm forgetting

During the development of the title:

-He went to recruit Mads
-He went to recruit the women
-He went to talk to Refn
-Then starred in a short-lived "TV" show for Refn/cameo at most
-He went to talk to De Niro in NYC

DURING the development of the title:

-He went to NYC for film-fest/con/whatever to talk to De Niro
-He went to Italy/Venice, I think
-He went to Finland/Remedy (studio)
-He went to Japan (home, granted)
-He went to LA (the Game Awards, I think?)
-He went to Seattle (Valve)
-Guriella's location that I'm forgetting (Swiss? Germany?)
-Etc.

Maybe he does work remotely, maybe he does it on the plane (but how if he's not remote syncing before leaving the airport?) but his Twitter certainly doesn't give the impression that he does work with his team.

Also before I forget: His studio (at Konami) seemed to do weekly movie nights/days where they advertised the latest films or stuff Kojima wanted to see on a builtin board during MGS3-4-5/Peace Walker-6/"5"/Phantom Pain, Ground Zeroes

Now while he's more a "supervisor" role, it really is a preposition that he's traveling/going to museums (during the Konami fiasco, but that's partly being "fired" and partly before that point), going to film festivals, going on vacation (not a big deal, this one), and the like DURING the development of his titles.

Most developers are in the studio with their teams and only take vacations after the title has launched.

You expect game directors to be at their desk every day to write some code? What year is this, 1985?

Yeah, I expect that the majority of a Creative Director's week will be spent with the team reviewing their work and setting direction. I've been in game dev for 25 years. Not sure what experience you're drawing on.

Also let's not forget that he's not first-party to Sony, they bankrolled him. But he still has to manage the day-to-day (or oversee the funds/payments/etc.) of the studio that has HIS FUCKING NAME on it. Where is he doing the work/what work is he doing with how much he's traveling?

[Raist]

Y'all need to chill


Look, is the dude having a more "social" life than other game directors out there? Well yeah. And he's pretty vocal and transparent about it.
At the same time, how many game directors of his caliber / standing are there? Irrespective of personal (dis)taste for his games, there aren't that many folks he could be compared with.

He was pretty much the last one standing in keeping Konami afloat (at the very least in term of quality of output, and single title sales) for the best part of the last decade, and got unceremoniously shitcanned - granted, with the caveat that we don't know what truly happened. They ran everything else into the ground.

Let him have his fun, I'd say
At the end of the day, he went through a hard reset (sure, with a LOT of help from Sony) but still delivered a huge game; and I think to the surprise of most people, actually on time.

[chronovore]

I'm completely fine with cult-of-personality devs getting to have some time in the sun, appreciate their life, and especially get some reasonable percentage of income that reflects the value that their name brings to a project. Hell, Hollywood does it all the time with film; how much do you think James Cameron actually brought to the most recent Terminator installment? I was specifically answering your question about the actual logistics in a studio. I recognize that Kojima is existing in a state that is not common in the industry.

[Raist]

I was being lightly sarcastic/facetious, dad  :'(


One thing I'll say, is that it's likely not helped much by Kojima's wankery (on twitter especially). But I'm wondering how much of that is a language thing.
For someone who's so open / exposed to the western world (as opposed to, say, Miyamoto), he really can't fucking speak english even if his life depended on it. It's kinda weird.

[thisismyusername]

I'm not sure if his English Twitter is actually translated by him or not.

[Raist]

I'm guessing google translate.

[HardcoreRetro]

The way I ended the game after 40 hours couldn't have been more fitting.

Wanted the 50000 likes achievement after the credits rolled so I did some extra deliveries.

"New bag accessory unlocked"

It was a tiny Monster Energy can.

Games are art!

[Rahxephon91]

The whole Mama thing is peak Kojima.

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Like yeah a woman and her dead stillborn baby is kind of something the game should tackle. I mean the BB's are basically stillborn babies. The story is about life and death. The setting of the world is one where life and death are basically crossing over. Of course you'd want to explore a person who experiences that at the most absolute. A woman. Now it is probably out of Kojima's depth as a writer, but I don't begrudge him trying and I'm not going to say its the most mysgonist thing as some dumb kotaku writer did. It makes sense. And honestly that first cutscene where you meet her is ok. It's interesting. She's clinging to something she feels she has a connection to as a mother(yeah...), but has never really been alive. It really fits the game's themes.

It's just Kojima can't leave enough alone and throws in this dumb ass twist to complicate things. Her twin sister who looks just like her(except wearing some Deus Ex MD outfit) and sounds like her and later basically is her, is also heavily involved in the child birth. To the point that they have a strained relationship over it. They also are like psychics...Oh and Mama is kind of dead herself!. It's fucking dumb and reminded me of Stillman in MGS2(I WAS LYING ABOUT THE BOMB). Here's a simple backstory, lets make it overly dark and dramatic and have the characters tell it to you in intense monologues over and over again.

It really kind of hints at the problem with this story. The characters are very unrelatable, dry, and too dramatic. In a way that sucks all the humanity they could have. A problem for a game about making human connections. All the people are cold, weird, and not really likeable. Yeah, I expect weird stuff, but you gotta kind of ground the weird. A woman with a still born baby who through the spiritual fucked  up stuff of the world has kept her connection to it....thats relatable and understandable. Adding all that shit really muddies that and makes it less understandable and ultimately less interesting.

[close]

Still really like the game though.

[kingv]

You’re damaged goods!

... so many lines in this are 

[Rahxephon91]

I don't know what exactly happens to Fragile, but thats also a character I don't really care for. I feel like with her condition, you could have explored someone is young, but feels hopeless, already dead, and that life has passed them by. A feeling many young people feel these days. Which of course impacts her connections with people. Like you've got a cool setting and concepts, use them to tackle issues people have in regular life. Like one of the most interesting things that happen is with the Mountaineer and how having a child would happen. Yeah, it's under crazy circumstances, but a child birth with the help of the doctor though skype I'm sure already happens and is weird.

Thats what I thinks makes crazy sci-fi things understandable by regular joes. They can be a container to talk about real things. But in DS, I'm just like whatever to a lot of the out there shit. The stuff that I can see through a lens of our real world though, I'm like "thats neat".

[kingv]

Also the delivery of the line

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“I’m fragile but not that fragile”

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. I almost lol’ed in one sentence she says the same word pronounced two different ways?! Wtf?!

I absolutely love the story in this. It’s definitely that “so bad it’s good” kojima level. There are some weird inconsistencies in the beginning though that make the rest of the game kind of

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like when they go to burn the presidents body, they make it really unclear what cause a void out. The game talks about her going nuclear or about to blow or something, which implies that *all* dead bodies cause void outs. I absolutely thought this for like half the game, and it make it really confusing why some characters are shooting themselves in the head while they are being attacked by BTs. I’m pretty sure that void outs are actually caused when a living person is killed by a bt, because that actually seems consistent with the game mechanics.

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[Rahxephon91]

Yeah I was confused by that as well.

But I do like some of the themes he's trying to talk about. You know, life is very important. To the point that any death is a huge deal. They really want to tackle these heavy themes, but also have this crazy shit. But also seemingly be taken very seriously. It doesn't really work.

[Raist]

Also the delivery of the line

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“I’m fragile but not that fragile”

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. I almost lol’ed in one sentence she says the same word pronounced two different ways?! Wtf?!

As far as I'm concerned she can pronounce it 45 different ways, I wouldn't care.



 

[benjipwns]

The whole Mama thing is peak Kojima.

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Like yeah a woman and her dead stillborn baby is kind of something the game should tackle. I mean the BB's are basically stillborn babies. The story is about life and death. The setting of the world is one where life and death are basically crossing over. Of course you'd want to explore a person who experiences that at the most absolute. A woman. Now it is probably out of Kojima's depth as a writer, but I don't begrudge him trying and I'm not going to say its the most mysgonist thing as some dumb kotaku writer did. It makes sense. And honestly that first cutscene where you meet her is ok. It's interesting. She's clinging to something she feels she has a connection to as a mother(yeah...), but has never really been alive. It really fits the game's themes.

It's just Kojima can't leave enough alone and throws in this dumb ass twist to complicate things. Her twin sister who looks just like her(except wearing some Deus Ex MD outfit) and sounds like her and later basically is her, is also heavily involved in the child birth. To the point that they have a strained relationship over it. They also are like psychics...Oh and Mama is kind of dead herself!. It's fucking dumb and reminded me of Stillman in MGS2(I WAS LYING ABOUT THE BOMB). Here's a simple backstory, lets make it overly dark and dramatic and have the characters tell it to you in intense monologues over and over again.

It really kind of hints at the problem with this story. The characters are very unrelatable, dry, and too dramatic. In a way that sucks all the humanity they could have. A problem for a game about making human connections. All the people are cold, weird, and not really likeable. Yeah, I expect weird stuff, but you gotta kind of ground the weird. A woman with a still born baby who through the spiritual fucked  up stuff of the world has kept her connection to it....thats relatable and understandable. Adding all that shit really muddies that and makes it less understandable and ultimately less interesting.

[close]

Still really like the game though.

Rahx, I'm assigning you to revisit all of this after you finish because I think it will be hilarious.

[chronovore]

I was being lightly sarcastic/facetious, dad  :'(
(...)

Sarcasm rarely works in text, son.

[Raist]

pls don't terminate me

[thetylerrob]

Just read in an article that Kojima’s mom passed away before he told her or showed her anything about his new studio 

“I thought, I’ll tell her once I’ve become a little successful,” he says. “I didn’t want her to worry.” But she died during the game’s gestation. “The ghosts in the game — maybe my parents are one of them, seeing me in this world,” he adds. “I wanted to have that kind of metaphor, that within you, you’re connected to the people that passed away.” Kojima admits to regrets about not telling his mother about the game. He appears shaken as he says it.

 

[kingv]

Tfw your mom is Princess Beach 

[Tasty]

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/Andr92226211/status/1200052020293582848

[Svejk]

Finally finished chapter 3!  . Can't wait to play more tonight!  .  Loving this game even more.

[chronovore]

pls don't terminate me

You and me? We're fine, chap! 

[chronovore]

TFW your bullshit is called out by a manager at Der Wienerschnitzel.

[Raist]

pls don't terminate me

You and me? We're fine, chap! 

 

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Now where's my goddam pocket money

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[Let's Cyber]

Despite enjoying aspects of Death Stranding, I'm really grateful Silent Hills didn't happen in retrospect. Man what a fucking incoherent mess that would have been and the tone would have been nothing like the  Team Silent games.

[thisismyusername]

I mean, compared to post-Team Silent titles would that have been a bad thing?

AKA: Compare Downpour/et. al. past 4 to it/PT.

[Don Rumata]

Silent Hills had to die.
Kojima pimping his famous buddies over fucking Team Silent members (who have been put on janitorial duties in Konami's basements) to make the big comeback, was a cunt move through and through.
I mean he went on and got fucking Junji Ito for the monster design, when Masahiro Ito, who basically created the visual design of the series, has been begging to come back to it for years. 

BTW you should follow Ito on Twitter, he posted a lot of interesting behind the scene on the series.

[Let's Cyber]

I mean, compared to post-Team Silent titles would that have been a bad thing?

AKA: Compare Downpour/et. al. past 4 to it/PT.

You're right, It would have been a better game than those post-SH4 games for sure.

It also would have been a narrative mess and not much to do with Silent Hill. Even PT didn't feel like SH at all. He needed a new IP for his ideas. I have a feeling he just would have tried to glob some of these DS concepts on to SH rather than make a SH game with a Kojima twist. Some of the core concepts in DS aren't that different from Metal Gear Survive, TBH, which his old team just ran with. I think he's had a lot of these ideas rolling around in his head for a while even before shit went south with Konami.

[paprikastaude]

The martyrdom around PT is idiotic and I can only imagine most Kojima sluts haven't actually played Silent Hill 1/2. Game would've been an absolutely terrible SH title under Kojima.

[thetylerrob]

The martyrdom around PT is idiotic and I can only imagine most Kojima sluts haven't actually played Silent Hill 1/2. Game would've been an absolutely terrible SH title under Kojima.

It's not even just Kojima sluts though, PT became a huge meme on reddit and youtube because of its rarity. I think Abby from Giantbomb said it's her favorite survival horror game ever which is  considering she did her first playthrough live on the internet and had the chat room giving her the answers to all of the "puzzles."

It's still funny to me that people think we missed out on something when the additional concept demo Kojima had made for Silent Hills was literally just hallways full of "boo! spooky monster!" It would have been interesting and unique, but it wouldn't have been a worthy follow-up to the original SH series.

[Rahxephon91]

I mean I think with Silent Hills people were excited more so at the fact that Kojima was making something not MGS, it was a seemingly AAA Silent Hill thing, it as a AAA console Japanese game, it was a Japanese Silent Hill, and the demo and people involved were liked. Not so much that it would have been inline with other SH games.

[paprikastaude]

PT also had the luck of coming out at the right time. Shadow drops like that, particularly during bigger conferences, blow up much easier early in a gen, when there's no big selection of proper titles yet.

[kingv]

I always felt like PT would have been destined to be bigger than whatever Silent Hills would have ended up as. The gimmicks in that game played perfectly to the then peaking streaming and reacting culture of the internet that celebrated creepypasta. Most would have probably dropped it cause it wasn't PT.

I'm in the camp of being very glad Kojima never got to make Silent Hills cause goddamn are people throwing Team Silent and their incredible work under the bus crying over Norman Reedus, who btw is the weakest part of Death Stranding outside of a japanese IG thot. Kojima getting to make Death Stranding, a glorious mess story wise but fun as fuck videogame, instead of Silent Hills where his skillset would have been detrimental, is the best that could have came out of this situation. If dude wants to make a horror game still cool, do that without calling it Silent Hill and we're golden.

Is the ig thot the chiral artists daughter? Because she was awful.

The dude that you bring her to, I legit thought she was going to end up being his special needs daughter until the mission where you bring her.

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other than the bad acting I thought having them get divorced via emails later was really dumb. Sort of goes against the theme of the game, but didn’t really have any reason to have it be that way because they never seemed to do anything with that. The “oh this woman is driving me crazy” thing was fine enough until he’s like “oh we got divorced and she moved back to her moms. How did she even get there?!

[close]

I’m super close to the end of this and honestly, it’s one of my favorite games this gen. I acknowledge it’s flaws, but it’s better than the sum of its parts for me. The story is fairly dumb, but it has had some twists I didn’t see a mile away, and it’s engaging. And honestly... it’s more coherent than a lot of kojima’s games. I love metal gear solid but still couldn’t really explain the entire story to you. Because there’s so much confusing bullshit, and overlapping conspiracies, and this guy got mind controlled by this guy, and so on.

[kingv]

I think the visual design is pretty good, it’s interesting conceptually, and the general idea of the plot is not bad.

Honestly, many of the individual characters and their quirks are not bad either. They are just all written really poorly. I feel like if Kojima has a talented collaborator that wrote all of the dialogue and helped temper some of his worse ideas, the story could have been a lot better. After reading about his trials tribulations on the translation of MGS, I’m not sure he’d ever be interested in that though.

Still, video game stories in general are graded on a curve because very few of them are more than a perfunctory reason to go from point a to point b so any game that even tries is going to seem better than average.

I could see myself messing around with the game afterwards for a few more hours to see what the side content unlocks and complete some roads or zip line networks for fun... but I agree there’s not much reason to replay it. It’s not really that type of game.

Like, I can say I don’t necessarily ever need or want to play a game exactly like it again, even though I enjoyed it.

[Rahxephon91]

I'm nearing the end now and honestly, I'd rate this game pretty high.

It really comes into it's own after chapter 3.

[Nintex]

 

[bluemax]

PT is like one of those bands that gets popular due to good timing and not actual talent or whatever and then the lead singer ODs and dies so we don't get to see them flame out.

[chronovore]

 

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[Don Rumata]

PT is like one of those bands that gets popular due to good timing and not actual talent or whatever and then the lead singer ODs and dies so we don't get to see them flame out.

I mean it genuinely has some good ideas and some great scares, for what it is.
It's just not this revolutionary achievement outside of its marketing exploits.
And it's a bit sad that a lot of zoomers will associate Silent Hill more with it and Kojima, than any of the original games, but that is Konami's fault for making them almost impossible to obtain and run in 2019.

[Svejk]

Got to..

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the boss fight that initiates as soon as you start transporting Mama.  The difficulty for these bosses has certainly started to increase.  It got me and/or Mama a few times.  Kinda stupid that you have to put her down just to pick up anything else.   Finally defeated it with her being 96% damaged.     Came to find out that you can heal her at a hot spring.  Got to one and shared a hot tub scene with Mama...     Come to show Sam and Mama facing away from each other, 20 feet apart...  Mama does nothing to tease or anything... Very un-Kojima like...  Disappointing.      

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Anywho, still enjoying this game...  It seems to be blooming into something that's definitely unique.

[kingv]

Damn, I never thought to do that with that. One thing I like about kojima is he takes the time to think about a whole lot of little touches like that.

[HardcoreRetro]

I just walked away. I did hurt her on purpose cause she's an awful character.

[Svejk]

I had to look it up, because I wasn't about to spend 45 minutes crossing country only to trip on a rock, kill her, and start over.  Fuck that.

[kingv]

I just walked away. I did hurt her on purpose cause she's an awful character.

Well, duh, Kojima-Sama did a brilliance and made her suck because she is only half a character.

Like all of us, she is incomplete without the strands connecting her to other people in her life.

 

[BIONIC]

I just drove her in my truck since I already rebuilt all the roads like a proper gentleman

[bluemax]

PT is like one of those bands that gets popular due to good timing and not actual talent or whatever and then the lead singer ODs and dies so we don't get to see them flame out.

I mean it genuinely has some good ideas and some great scares, for what it is.
It's just not this revolutionary achievement outside of its marketing exploits.
And it's a bit sad that a lot of zoomers will associate Silent Hill more with it and Kojima, than any of the original games, but that is Konami's fault for making them almost impossible to obtain and run in 2019.

That's fair I guess. I never got to play it and I never watched any video of it. Survival Horror games have always felt like someone took all those terrible PC point and click adventure games and decided what they needed were bad controls, inventory management, abusive save systems and zombies. I don't need Gabriel Knight with tank controls in my life.

[HardcoreRetro]

If you've played Amnesia: The Dark Descent you've basically played 95% of modern horror games. PT basically used that template but with obtuse puzzles cause he enjoys the idea of gamers coming together to solve stuff.

[Don Rumata]

PT is like one of those bands that gets popular due to good timing and not actual talent or whatever and then the lead singer ODs and dies so we don't get to see them flame out.

I mean it genuinely has some good ideas and some great scares, for what it is.
It's just not this revolutionary achievement outside of its marketing exploits.
And it's a bit sad that a lot of zoomers will associate Silent Hill more with it and Kojima, than any of the original games, but that is Konami's fault for making them almost impossible to obtain and run in 2019.

That's fair I guess. I never got to play it and I never watched any video of it. Survival Horror games have always felt like someone took all those terrible PC point and click adventure games and decided what they needed were bad controls, inventory management, abusive save systems and zombies. I don't need Gabriel Knight with tank controls in my life.

PT isn't even a survival horror game, it's basically a rollercoaster ride type game, like Layers of Fear or whatever, where essentially you do nothing but look around, minimal interaction and usually can't even die.
It's set piece after set piece, some of them are cool, but then they tend to get boring and predictable, which is why PT mostly works (being, like, 30 minutes).

Survival Horror as a genre has more evolved into the likes of RE2 Remake, or even Evil Within or Last of Us.

[kingv]

PT stopped being scary when my friend and I sat there whispering Jareth into the microphone for 30 minutes trying to get the final event to trigger.

[Don Rumata]

PT stopped being scary when my friend and I sat there whispering Jareth into the microphone for 30 minutes trying to get the final event to trigger.

Thankfully that's the very end of the demo. 

[bork]

Death Stranding


Man Standing


https://store.steampowered.com/app/1201840/MAN_STANDING/?fbclid=IwAR0lH40bzQXCdh-2KPBZrHdLOge_k-SwcngvzNlGLVFKvjxVyyIljTdOWNk

It may seem that the game borrows many mechanics from another game - we, of course, are talking about Hevy Reyn. But do not rush to judge! Hevy Reyn has a completely different story - there was a detective maniac (sorry for the spoiler!) And the main character was looking for his children. And there it was necessary to pass all kinds of tests and all that. But we do not have such tests, and there are no maniacs either! And we don’t have qte either. And we have a completely different setting - in Hevy Reyn it’s not a post apocalypse, but we have a post apocalypse (when the world is after the apocalypse!) !. Do you remember the moment in Hevy Reyn when you had to drive in an oncoming car to find your son (Sean)? So there you go! We do not have this moment either! Therefore, please do not say that this game is similar to Hevy Reyn - this is not at all!

[benjipwns]

System Requirements
MINIMUM:
OS: Windows 10
Processor: Intel Core i9
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: Nvidia RTX 2080 TI
DirectX: Version 12
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 1 GB available space
Sound Card: Any
Additional Notes: *it is uncertain

RECOMMENDED:
OS: Windows 10
Processor: AMD Ryzen 3600
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Graphics: AMD Radeon Vega 64
DirectX: Version 12
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 1 GB available space
Sound Card: Any
Additional Notes: AMD Radeon Vega 64 is out of stock

[Don Rumata]

1GB storage? Revolutionary compression technology!
Oh i see, it just saves the game into the VRAM.

[bluemax]

PT is like one of those bands that gets popular due to good timing and not actual talent or whatever and then the lead singer ODs and dies so we don't get to see them flame out.

I mean it genuinely has some good ideas and some great scares, for what it is.
It's just not this revolutionary achievement outside of its marketing exploits.
And it's a bit sad that a lot of zoomers will associate Silent Hill more with it and Kojima, than any of the original games, but that is Konami's fault for making them almost impossible to obtain and run in 2019.

That's fair I guess. I never got to play it and I never watched any video of it. Survival Horror games have always felt like someone took all those terrible PC point and click adventure games and decided what they needed were bad controls, inventory management, abusive save systems and zombies. I don't need Gabriel Knight with tank controls in my life.

PT isn't even a survival horror game, it's basically a rollercoaster ride type game, like Layers of Fear or whatever, where essentially you do nothing but look around, minimal interaction and usually can't even die.
It's set piece after set piece, some of them are cool, but then they tend to get boring and predictable, which is why PT mostly works (being, like, 30 minutes).

Survival Horror as a genre has more evolved into the likes of RE2 Remake, or even Evil Within or Last of Us.

So it's basically an early VR game but not in VR.

[kingv]

Beat this last night, and it’s the most kojima-ass kojima story ever, but honestly, I liked it. It’s ridiculous, with some really awful dialogue in places, but it also has some beautiful scenes and interesting twists that are pretty decent fun if you haven’t spoiled them for yourself. I still have some questions though:

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It seems sort of implied that bringing Sam back accelerated or started the death stranding. Like, Amelie made it worse by trying to prevent it. They said something about when Sam came back is when the death stranding started.... but there was also a void out before in New York, but it seems like only one.

- i didn’t quite get the significance of the mask... “it does more than hide my face? Uh, ok, what else does it do? Why does the gold one let Higgs control amelie?
- Amelie’s motivations don’t really make sense. I think if she was better written, she could have been a better character.
- how did Sam not notice Lou didn’t have a hang down? Who the fuck is Lou? I guess he’s just a random BB unit, and not otherwise important.
- I thought Sam might be a BB because there were clues about that (especially in the trailers) but didn’t think that he would be the Clifford Unger BB. That was good twist, and Mads was by far the best actor in this, so that part was pretty good.

Corny shit:
- the whole Lockne Maligne thing was lol. So kojima. Needed more gratuitous titty though for no reason.
- the line “I’m fra-JILE but I’m not that fra-zheel” is hilarious, and I will quote it a lot to my gaming friends. Also, “you’re damaged goods!”
- the part where dead man looks like he’s going to force himself on Sam in the shower.

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At the end, I really enjoyed it and am glad I didn’t pass on it. I really appreciate that it has a 100% complete story with no sequel baiting. That is so unusual in video games nowadays that aren’t RPG’s.

I don’t think the story is as bad as some are saying, but the plotting and especially the dialogue is kind of bad. Imo the game could have been a lot better if they had a better writer tightening up the general idea of the game. The broad story arc and theme I think are fine and interesting, but a lot of element landed kind of flat because the execution was not great or the dialogue was weak.

[Svejk]

I just got to Chapter 6 last night.. Kinda relying on delivery bots more... Fuckit, I'll take B or C ranks... Want to stick with main quests mostly to see where this is heading.

[kingv]

I just got to Chapter 6 last night.. Kinda relying on delivery bots more... Fuckit, I'll take B or C ranks... Want to stick with main quests mostly to see where this is heading.

The delivery bots give you fuck all for the advancing of the connection meter. It seems like way way lower tot he point where I’m not really sure the bots are even worth using.

[Svejk]

Yeah, they don't.. I should just let the side missions just sit there in case I decide to do then later... But I figure I won't, so just send them... And listen to them start singing. Lol

[Svejk]

Trucking along to Chapter 8.  Chapter 7 was some MGS combat goodness.. albeit shallow, still fun and action packed.  The change of pace has been welcome.  This game is good.