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Bebpo

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Re: Holy Shit Death Stranding is beautiful nonsense
« Reply #960 on: July 19, 2020, 05:10:50 PM »
Nah, those are great midpoints. Connect to them from max distance (using lvl.2 upgrades for the extra 50 distance to conserve bandwith) and then put another one max range away from that cliff dropper.

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« Reply #961 on: July 19, 2020, 05:33:06 PM »
In any case:

"Yeah boiiiii!!!"
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« Reply #962 on: July 19, 2020, 10:00:34 PM »
Reached the end of the second area. But now I need to figure out:

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How to cross the Tar Ocean
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Which the game doesn't explain. At least in an e-mail I haven't gotten yet, and nothing ordered/required yet...

So I might go back and 5-star EVERYTHING connected and see if I can get a few of the dark-zone areas on the network and maybe finish building roads until/when the game tells me the information?

Edit: OH I AM A MORON. :snoop I can't believe the answer was that obvious.
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Re: Holy Shit Death Stranding is beautiful nonsense
« Reply #963 on: July 20, 2020, 01:12:36 AM »
Chapter 9:



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Higgs has his eyeshadow on fleek, like a coworker of mine. :doge

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More Actual Game Spoilers


:uguu



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Final boss time!

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Holy shit, Kojima: You madman! Pulling a MGS4 on us! :doge

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TYSON'D!  :doge






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Ok, enough image spam. Point is:
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Oh wait, one more. Got an e-mail after all of this ending:

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I guess I should've delivered those fucking pizza's instead of rushing to the end? :doge :doge :doge :doge

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Re: Holy Shit Death Stranding is beautiful nonsense
« Reply #964 on: July 20, 2020, 02:54:09 AM »
Checking the hideout is such a cool moment too.  :aah

thisismyusername

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« Reply #965 on: July 20, 2020, 09:40:11 AM »
Nobody is building ziplines so this back-half of delivering things sucks. :beli I guess I should take the initiative, but fuck trecking around the mountain to do that right now.

Svejk

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« Reply #966 on: July 20, 2020, 09:50:13 AM »
As awesome as ziplines are, they were too time consuming for me to follow through construction.  :doge

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« Reply #967 on: July 21, 2020, 12:03:46 AM »
Chapter 10-14/15:

Whole load of spoilers coming














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More spoilers!








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:fbm :fbm :fbm :fbm

Even more spoilers!!!!



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I mean... the Eyeshadow was a dead giveaway of that... :supergay

OH GOD WHEN WILL THE SPOILERS END















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*Fast Forward screech sound as expo dump by Kojimbo happens here*

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Game Over, man! Game Over!

Just kidding, we're still on the Crazy Train... :doge
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*Reach Out To The Truth.mp3*

Nearly there, I swear!
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*Fast Forward screech as Kojima REALLY FUCKING EXPO DUMPS HERE. LIKE AN HOUR OF IT. REALLY.*



I dunno if this is in the "Photo Mode" but I love this filter effect in this scene. Makes him look like a zombie.

I'll keep spoilerin'







Del Toro and Reedus Source Film Maker porn when?

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Final ones, promise!

:fbm BB/Lou died. :(

Kojima: BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE!


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« Reply #968 on: July 21, 2020, 12:05:23 AM »




Bebpo

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« Reply #969 on: July 21, 2020, 12:32:33 AM »
Glad you enjoyed it!

My favorite game last year.

kingv

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« Reply #970 on: July 21, 2020, 05:05:52 PM »
I'll look forward to playing this once it's on megadiscount or PS+ and the surge of new players will make the landscape replete with bridges and stuff.

I am pretty sure there is some kind of gated limits to how much they will pull into your game. Getting a really great route set up is damn satisfying though.

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« Reply #971 on: July 22, 2020, 12:09:08 AM »
fwiw the Pizza delivery missions are intentionally troll missions. The one from the farm....fffffuuuuu

You weren't kidding. Holding R2 all the while crossing the infamous water-fall area to then get on the :bow road I built :bow2 (:piss Rest of the Community not helping me :piss2 ) to get there in 30 mins or less. :doge

There's apparently two more. I got one triggered doing the PChad Hale-LifexPortalxDS cross over event so that leaves one more after that, but this one is in the mountains. :stahp

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« Reply #972 on: July 23, 2020, 09:42:05 AM »
This last pizza mission. :snoop

Built a zipline Network up there nearly by myself. Dude isn't on the Network yet, so I now have to do their shit before building a zipline to zipline down to Mountain KNot and go around the mountain on my :bow roads :bow2 to deliver this last one.

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« Reply #974 on: July 31, 2020, 10:05:37 PM »
Well, got all the places to 5 stars finally. Now that leaves finding the last 40 or so memory chips I didn't get. :lol :doge

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« Reply #975 on: July 31, 2020, 10:52:15 PM »
Well, got all the places to 5 stars finally. Now that leaves finding the last 40 or so memory chips I didn't get. :lol :doge

Please tell me you eventually built a zipline network.

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« Reply #976 on: July 31, 2020, 11:50:47 PM »
Well, got all the places to 5 stars finally. Now that leaves finding the last 40 or so memory chips I didn't get. :lol :doge

Please tell me you eventually built a zipline network.

Yeah, for the mountain and East Coast. The flat-area of the mountains for the most part already had bridges and my road network to where it wasn't completely awful doing those. In fact, I can go from Capital Knot to Lake Knot in the East Coast with little branches for the other ones right now until they decay. :lol :doge

However, Max Payne/Sam Lake and the Fimitsu dude took FOREVER, IMO to do. The others weren't too bad.

Bebpo

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« Reply #977 on: July 31, 2020, 11:51:56 PM »
Yeah, that's most of it.

I got really into zip network and networked every single relay station together via ziplines in the main map. Was satisfying and made it a no brainer to 5 star most of them. Definitely took time & effort though.

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« Reply #978 on: October 22, 2020, 03:40:18 AM »
"One last delivery" :mjcry Mads' arc :tocry

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Wasn't expecting the game to tie things together in such a touching way, particularly after the long beach sequence and its 'conclusion' (read after the fact in a comment apparently the IGN reviewer who gave it a poor score only played this far :p, though I avoided all reviews). Not sure any game I've seen nail such convincing crying rendering, apart from the solid performances themselves.

I enjoyed the sprinkling of levity brought by Heartman and also various of Higgs' sequences, particularly the latter's last fight styles. Only a Japanese game would throw in that. Also nice nod to Refn's lighting style in Heartman's room. Solid game, despite some grindy stretches if one wants better items. Was impressed at the snow traversal and effects, so those sections I didn't mind as much.
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Bebpo

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« Reply #979 on: October 22, 2020, 03:59:16 AM »
I thought he really pulled off the Madds thing.

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I totally did not expect Sam to be Madd's kid, even though the timelines made sense. Nice twist and wrapped up real well with the hug.
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kingv

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« Reply #980 on: October 29, 2020, 08:34:22 PM »
Yeah story in the game is pretty good.

It still has confusing kojima shit but makes a lot more sense than MGs4 or 5

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« Reply #981 on: June 10, 2021, 02:30:17 PM »
Director's Cut is coming to PS5....



Oh Kojima.. you sly bastard
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Bebpo

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« Reply #982 on: June 10, 2021, 02:38:21 PM »
Didn't watch the trailer. Any difference from PC release?

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« Reply #983 on: June 10, 2021, 03:23:52 PM »
Didn't watch the trailer. Any difference from PC release?
Not sure... but you should watch it if you like Metal Gear in any way. ;)

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« Reply #984 on: June 10, 2021, 03:25:18 PM »
Haha, yeah watched it.
Didn't realize it was just a troll teaser. Fucking Kojima lol

Still gonna assume it's just the PC version with a few extra things added.

Game is my GoTY 2019 and love it, but it's long as fuck and no way I'm gonna replay it for a few new things.

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« Reply #985 on: June 10, 2021, 10:44:38 PM »
Director's Cut? Wasn't he already fully in charge of the latest version?

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« Reply #986 on: June 11, 2021, 02:50:40 AM »
Director's Cut is coming to PS5....



Oh Kojima.. you sly bastard

Christ, that was self-indulgent.

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« Reply #987 on: June 11, 2021, 02:59:21 AM »
Self-Indulgent is almost a Kojima trademark at this point.

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« Reply #988 on: September 24, 2021, 06:46:20 AM »
This alone makes me want to play this again... 

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While the average game director would have players simply port their saves from the PlayStation 4 to the PlayStation 5 via some unobtrusive menu, Hideo Kojima is built different. No, players who want to play Death Stranding Director’s Cut on PS5 for high framerates and fast load times will have to lace up their boots and take on one last delivery, literally carrying their old save to the PS5.
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« Reply #989 on: September 26, 2021, 02:52:22 PM »
Fucked around with the director's cut. There isn't a ton of new stuff, but there are a lot of QoL improvements. You can also turn off the god forsaken cutscene that occurs everytime you enter a BT area.

 :rejoice

 The new content and missions are pretty brief but there is a lot of new music, most of it great. Especially the new music for the racetrack. I didn't play the PC version so I can't tell what is just PC adds-ons vs DC stuff, other than the obvious nods to Valve and Half-life.  I don't know if I'll start a new game or not, I liked the original plenty but it isn't really the type of thing you do multiple playthroughs of.  I might finish the road through the mountains and do a few more missions; it is a really good looking game.

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« Reply #990 on: September 26, 2021, 03:15:54 PM »
Thanks for the breakdown. Yeah I picked it up because $10 is cheap.

The funniest thing is that watching the trailers I was like bad racing mini-game is the most unneeded thing ever. But if I boot this up and move over my save, since I have zero interest in redoing the main game, I'll probably just fuck around with the racing mini-game. Maybe do the 20 mins of new missions and shooting range stuff if I can jump right into them.

Sounds like about an hour of new content total. But mostly just bought it since it's a great game and having a nicer looking/running version if I ever want to boot it up 5 years from now is worth $10.

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« Reply #991 on: September 26, 2021, 03:38:28 PM »
Yeah, the new missions are pretty brief. The new location looks great visually but it just isn't a ton of content. Adjust expectations accordingly.

A lot of the new stuff is nice but not necessary. The maser gun is great for short range but I still prefer the bola gun. Most of the new vehicles are good from a QoL perspective (bike with the extra storage, bike with super jump, roadster is awesome for quickly traversing roads) but if you've already beat the game, what is the point? I'm jealous of the people playing this brand new because it's a better game now with more options, just not a must replay thing for old players.

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« Reply #992 on: September 26, 2021, 08:14:24 PM »
Yeah, the new missions are pretty brief. The new location looks great visually but it just isn't a ton of content. Adjust expectations accordingly.

A lot of the new stuff is nice but not necessary. The maser gun is great for short range but I still prefer the bola gun. Most of the new vehicles are good from a QoL perspective (bike with the extra storage, bike with super jump, roadster is awesome for quickly traversing roads) but if you've already beat the game, what is the point? I'm jealous of the people playing this brand new because it's a better game now with more options, just not a must replay thing for old players.

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« Reply #993 on: September 27, 2021, 12:26:10 AM »
Playing the new content now. Was kinda annoying I had to install the PS4 version to update and export my save.
Game looks great on PS5 at 60fps in performance.

The firing range is kinda fun as a VR Missions expansion pack, but also kinda shows the jankiness of the stealth/combat compared to like MGS controls. It's still fun, but there's only 30? missions and they seem pretty easy so I don't see much meaty content in that.

Doing the new missions now. Then will check out building the race track. The new gun seems pointless since you already had the bola gun which was OP as is. Haven't tried the new cargo catipults.



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« Reply #994 on: September 27, 2021, 01:49:53 AM »
Did the couple of new missions. Was ok. I thought there was a new BT boss or something in this version. Wonder where they put it. Guess it's time to check out the racetrack.

*Oh they're replayable boss fights. I wonder where you access them from?

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« Reply #995 on: September 27, 2021, 03:16:02 AM »
Private room, I think. Right behind Sam, you should be able to focus on the BT figures and replay the Cliff missions or boss fights.

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« Reply #996 on: September 27, 2021, 03:53:41 AM »
Ok, rebuilt the race track.
It's ...ok (the new music is good). How do you get the plans to build the roadster outside the races?

*edit* nm, gotta get those good S rank times. Eh, I'm probably good on the new content at this point. Was alright, but mostly just made me want to replay the actual game for the main experience.

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« Reply #997 on: September 27, 2021, 01:04:59 PM »
Ooooof I had no idea that it was a $10 u/g. I'm ready to rebuild my ziplines.

NOICE.
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Bebpo

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« Reply #998 on: September 27, 2021, 04:08:54 PM »
Ooooof I had no idea that it was a $10 u/g. I'm ready to rebuild my ziplines.

NOICE.

They’re still there,

Just probably on the brink of deterioration.


I’m surprised how few people ever bother upgrading their structures to even lvl.2; the new jump one you get extra distance/air and pretty much need lvl.2 for more than a hop.

Bebpo

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« Reply #999 on: September 27, 2021, 09:25:23 PM »
Alright, time to get my S rank racing on.

Need that roadster before I shelve it  :lol

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« Reply #1000 on: September 27, 2021, 11:01:44 PM »
Got all my S-ranks.

That long range Roadster is disgustingly fast on normal roads outside the race track :O

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« Reply #1001 on: September 28, 2021, 03:07:14 AM »
I’m surprised how few people ever bother upgrading their structures to even lvl.2; the new jump one you get extra distance/air and pretty much need lvl.2 for more than a hop.

From video clips I saw the jump legs made it look like it'd kinda break the game, in that it appeared you can jump from any height and land without damaging the deliverables, which seems super OP given it's a core mechanic of the game to manage damage which leads to alternate on-foot traversal/routing.

Is it some late-game only item or is the level upgrade pricey enough that you think it'd offset this?

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« Reply #1002 on: September 28, 2021, 03:17:04 PM »
Got all my S-ranks.

That long range Roadster is disgustingly fast on normal roads outside the race track :O
Yup. It's god-tier on the road and absolute fucking garbage anyway else.  :lol

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« Reply #1003 on: September 28, 2021, 04:55:31 PM »
I’m surprised how few people ever bother upgrading their structures to even lvl.2; the new jump one you get extra distance/air and pretty much need lvl.2 for more than a hop.

From video clips I saw the jump legs made it look like it'd kinda break the game, in that it appeared you can jump from any height and land without damaging the deliverables, which seems super OP given it's a core mechanic of the game to manage damage which leads to alternate on-foot traversal/routing.

Is it some late-game only item or is the level upgrade pricey enough that you think it'd offset this?

I mean, yes they are awesome and pretty useful to skip portions of the environment you normally have to tread carefully through.



That being said, they don't cover a ton of distance, so if I was replaying the game I'd just use them in specific spots you traverse regularly that slow you down on foot. Also zip-lines probably make them irrelevant anyhow and they seem more like a stop-gap before you get zip-lines.

Cargo cannon seems the most broken. But again the distance isn't huge so zip-lines still beat them. I feel like pre-zip-lines you'd want to make a daisy-chain of cargo cannons to cross difficult areas.

I'm curious if the cargo cannon reach will cross the giant waterfall gap. Even then you'd still have to get over it yourself.

These are fun things to play around with, but without replaying the game not sure how useful they are.

Got all my S-ranks.

That long range Roadster is disgustingly fast on normal roads outside the race track :O
Yup. It's god-tier on the road and absolute fucking garbage anyway else.  :lol

Just another reason to build all the roads!

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« Reply #1004 on: September 28, 2021, 09:14:57 PM »
I'd be game for broken mechanics to replay anyway... but... They need to release this on PC because I can't find a Piss5

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« Reply #1005 on: September 30, 2021, 02:06:25 AM »
Does Death Stranding have an actual photo mode? I can't find it, so here are photos of a beautiful car:







And then what happens when the car goes off-road and gets stuck un-moveable between two rocks while MULEs attack you to death.


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« Reply #1006 on: September 30, 2021, 02:26:13 AM »
Does Death Stranding have an actual photo mode?

Touch pad, press the left side.

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« Reply #1007 on: November 23, 2022, 02:37:51 AM »
So this game is finally US$20 on PSN. Should I get it?

I like open-world-games and learning ways to use terrain to cleverly gain advantage in missions. However, I don't think Kojima is a genius, and don't like janky controls.

Should I buy it?

Bebpo

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« Reply #1008 on: November 23, 2022, 02:52:52 AM »
So this game is finally US$20 on PSN. Should I get it?

I like open-world-games and learning ways to use terrain to cleverly gain advantage in missions. However, I don't think Kojima is a genius, and don't like janky controls.

Should I buy it?

Game is an amazing experience. Worth every penny. Has nothing to do with how much you like Kojima outside being able to sit through the first few hours of cutscenes/tutorials in the intro chapter.

Game is all about using terrain to gain an advantage in non-combat situations. It's about building roads and ziplines and optimized routes to speedrun from one spot to another. Very satisfying when you build your own transportation system and level up from it.

The controls aren't janky at all. Some reviewers were dumb and didn't realize you're supposed to hold L2+R2 to balance when running around with heavy loads.

It's mostly gameplay/exploration focused. There is a good amount of story, most of it is enjoyable nonsense. There are some good bits to the story and some bad ones. Your level of Kojima tolerance will determine if you can sit through the cutscenes or you go make a sandwich.

The gameplay is excellent however. The art is also great and the soundtrack is very, very good and will likely introduce you to some new artists.

But yeah, expect a long intro. I enjoyed it because I had no idea what the game was going to be like and the intro slowly introduces it piece by piece which I found fun. But it's like a 5 hour intro until you get to the real open-ended meat of the gameplay.

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« Reply #1009 on: November 23, 2022, 03:04:13 AM »
Sounds great.
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« Reply #1010 on: November 23, 2022, 07:29:29 AM »
I agree that it's definitely worth it.  There really is no other game like it.  Yeah, it has it's flaws and ridiculousness, but the bread and butter of traveling is like nothing else.  Never felt so grounded on how to traverse a virtual landscape.  Getting prepped for a trip/mission/deliveries stoked the same feelings of packing up before heading out on a road trip... Sounds weird, but the excitement is there.  And on top of that, the feeling of contribution to building a more efficiently traveled landscape is addicting. 

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« Reply #1011 on: November 23, 2022, 12:41:51 PM »
I fucking loved this game. I'd pay $60 to play it all over again in VR without thinking twice.

If you're happy to spend the time working on the side quests and sitting through the exposition, you'll have a blast.

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« Reply #1012 on: November 23, 2022, 01:43:49 PM »
I'd love a sequel that was more sandboxy and did away with the god awful combat all together :tocry
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« Reply #1013 on: November 28, 2022, 01:09:48 AM »
Thanks, peeps. I have purchased my first Kojima game since MGS1 on PS1.

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« Reply #1014 on: November 28, 2022, 12:40:24 PM »
You... you've not played MGS2?

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« Reply #1015 on: November 28, 2022, 07:59:42 PM »
I think I owned it, never played it.

When MGS 3 won Tokyo Game Show's BEST GAME award for showing a cinematic running on PS3 hardware, I signed off on ever being interested in it.

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« Reply #1016 on: January 31, 2023, 07:37:27 PM »
Against my better judgment, I went back to death stranding.

I immediately remembered why I closed the game out last time. Sam is sitting in his room, and the game won’t let me leave until I have highlighted every interactive item in it, and sent through the exposition associated with it. I sat through that.

When I attempted to leave the room, I started skipping cutscenes. I had to consecutively skip five or six times just to get to the point where I was allowed to interact with my character again.

And I tackled the mission where we build the first part of the CHIRAL Network by visiting an outpost. That wasn’t too bad. They let me navigate the terrain without getting jumped, and they let me overload my pack to show me how it affects my movement and navigation.

Cool.

The next mission goal was on the othe side of a mountain. It was raining. Was I supposed to seek shelter, like the introductory scene implied? Is waiting… gameplay? I pressed on in the rain, and encountered BEs which I can’t remember what it stands for, but are meant to be threatening. After stealthing for 5 minutes, they find me anyway and transform the landscape into an oil drenched hell. I fled, then lost my first package trying to cross a river.

I found a camp. It was raining. Clearly this was meant as respite. I entered, and there were a half dozen techwear bandits inside, all aware and attacking me at once. I fled up the mountainside, escape, but can’t find a path to my destination. The rain finally began damaging my packages. There was no path forward.

Out of curiosity, I reloaded from last Save data, and it is before the BE encounter. I will probably try again, but despite the immersion I am not finding this /fun/. 
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« Reply #1017 on: January 31, 2023, 10:43:18 PM »
Yeah, BTs you avoid using your sensor baby. Takes a bit to get the hang of it, but it's supposed to be tense and exciting. They don't come for you if you don't fuck up. So just walk normal, crouch walk when sensor starts going beep boop bop and when sensor starts going nuts hold your breath and crouch walk away from them. It just takes some getting used to, but the game gives you really good visual and audio signalling to avoid them.

You are not supposed to go into raider camps unless you are looking for a fight or to steal shit. Camps are not your friends. Outposts are. If you run into bandits, do some fighting and grab a car and run for it.

Don't worry about the rain. There's no waiting around gameplay for weather changes. They are positional and cover a certain amount of ground, not time based iirc. If it rains it's just supposed to be an obstacle on your path. Also rain = BTs, so where there are BTs on your path there is rain.

All this just sounds like early hurdles. The gameplay is pretty organic but moderately complex like past Kojima games. If you stick with it you'll get good at it and the game will keep giving you more tools to make things easier and more fun.

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Re: Holy Shit Death Stranding is beautiful nonsense
« Reply #1018 on: February 01, 2023, 12:10:56 AM »
Skipping cutscenes also requires an “are you sure?” Dialog Box which default highlights “cancel.”

Fucking hell, you just KNOW that Kojima pushed for unskippable, and only begrudgingly allowed it with these caveats.

Thanks for the tips, bebsy. I will give it one more go.

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Re: Holy Shit Death Stranding is beautiful nonsense
« Reply #1019 on: February 01, 2023, 03:45:11 AM »
Skipping cutscenes in a Kojima game?

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