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Sonic Mania PLUS ~ First Good SANIC In Decades
« on: August 12, 2017, 03:09:06 AM »


Three days, brehs. Unless you're on PC, then you'll have to wait till the 29th.

Also it leaked. Some 8ch dude streamed the game and was absolutely horrible at it. But we got some info and all that really matters is we know the stages now, spoiler tagged just in case one of you actually cares about being spoiled on a Sonic game:

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Green Hill (from Sonic 1)
Chemical Plant (from Sonic 2)
Studiopolis (new zone)
Flying Battery (from Sonic & Knuckles)
Press Garden (new zone)
Stardust Speedway (from Sonic CD)
Hydrocity (from Sonic 3)
Mirage Saloon (new zone)
Oil Ocean (from Sonic 2)
Lava Reef (from Sonic & Knuckles)
Metallic Madness (from Sonic CD)
Titanic Monarch (new zone)

A possible other zone if you get all the emeralds, or as some fanboys speculate as much
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2017, 03:11:43 AM »
Recycling old sonic levels. Sounds like a sonic game!
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2017, 09:06:25 AM »
Wow, has it really been 23 years since the last Sonic game? Talk about a retro revival.

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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2017, 09:43:11 AM »
Probably the most hyped I've been for a Sonic since I was in grade school.
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2017, 11:33:12 AM »
THIS GAME BETTER BE GREAT I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2017, 02:09:59 PM »
It's really a shame Sonic 4 stole that name because this looks like it deserves it a fuckton more.

Getting on launch day despite not loving the original games. Hope this does the trick for me cause the spritework looks great and I just want to support the idea in general. :)

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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2017, 03:20:59 PM »
Gotta admit, the opening animation is great and gave me chills. Sonic was my boy when I was growing up as Genesis head, and I was a massive fan as a kid. Unfortunately, I think the games are shit now, but 10 year old Icey would have creamed from that intro.
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2017, 05:29:22 PM »
Unfortunately, I think the games are shit now

So does everyone, that's why Sega has handed this off to somebody that actually knows what they're doing.
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2017, 09:13:56 PM »
Have to say, seeing a classic-style Sonic on Nintendo portable hardware shaped like this feels unusual, as the last time I played Sonic was on the Sega Game Gear.


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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2017, 09:51:14 PM »
It's been literally decades since I've looked forward to a new SANIC but here we go!  The game looks great.
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2017, 10:02:46 PM »
Unfortunately, I think the games are shit now

So does everyone, that's why Sega has handed this off to somebody that actually knows what they're doing.

I replayed Sonic 1-3 and knuckles last year and think they're shit too. I'm of the mindset that "Sonic was never good" now. :yeshrug Great nostalgic intro though.
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2017, 10:13:22 PM »
60% of Sonic Unleashed is good, Sonic Colors is solid, Sonic Generations is good

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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2017, 10:46:00 PM »
Unfortunately, I think the games are shit now

So does everyone, that's why Sega has handed this off to somebody that actually knows what they're doing.

I replayed Sonic 1-3 and knuckles last year and think they're shit too. I'm of the mindset that "Sonic was never good" now. :yeshrug

Can't agree with that at all.
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2017, 10:50:46 PM »
Unfortunately, I think the games are shit now

So does everyone, that's why Sega has handed this off to somebody that actually knows what they're doing.

I replayed Sonic 1-3 and knuckles last year and think they're shit too. I'm of the mindset that "Sonic was never good" now. :yeshrug Great nostalgic intro though.

Jesus fuckin Christ himu
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2017, 11:21:34 PM »
Haha, okay. I know you don't mean it and you're just mad by what I said so I take no offense.
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2017, 11:29:09 PM »
Unfortunately, I think the games are shit now

So does everyone, that's why Sega has handed this off to somebody that actually knows what they're doing.

I replayed Sonic 1-3 and knuckles last year and think they're shit too. I'm of the mindset that "Sonic was never good" now. :yeshrug

Can't agree with that at all.

Sonic 2 was prolly my favorite game as a kid next to SFII. Played it as last year, think I died once? Game has bad design all over the place. I still got it and know every every corner, but wow, it's just not a good game to me anymore. Same for 1. 1 is terrible to me now. 3 and Knuckles aren't good but they're definitely approaching decent.

Saw Sonic Mania footage and it looks like the same thing. I'm not gonna stink up the thread though. Sonic fans will be Sonic fans and looks like they have good reason to enjoy this one because it looks like an actual Genesis Sonic game in terms of design for better or worse (in my case, worse).
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2017, 10:21:03 AM »
No Michael Jackson this time, though. :(
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2017, 11:04:58 AM »
Who is doing the music? Does anyone know?
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2017, 11:13:44 AM »
someone named Tee Lopes is doing the music
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2017, 01:21:18 PM »
I bought that vinyl >.>
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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2017, 04:49:58 PM »
it got dunkeys seal of approval


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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2017, 05:12:54 PM »
Fascism and racism?


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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2017, 07:12:11 PM »
They just wanna have sex with Big the Cat.
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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2017, 07:36:43 PM »
someone named Tee Lopes is doing the music

Sounds like the name of a long-lost 80's freestyle artist.
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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2017, 10:08:36 PM »
so if i get this on psn, can i pre-install it? what time would it go live? never preordered from them before.
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« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2017, 10:26:34 PM »
FUCK MAN I WANNA PLAY IT NOW
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« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2017, 08:17:48 AM »
welp i fell asleep on the floor in front of my computer. looks like i'll have to wait til after work to play this :/
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« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2017, 08:37:47 AM »
One of the bosses
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« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2017, 08:46:38 AM »
Grew up with the classic sonic games, this is about as good as it gets. Holy shit we finally have a great Sonic game again!

I am loving this.
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« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2017, 10:07:39 AM »
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK IT'S SO GOOD!!  SONNIKKU~   
:uguu

Takes you back to the days when Sonic games weren't shit.  Please fire Sonic Team and replace them with these devs.  SEGA PLS.
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« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2017, 10:24:01 AM »
Himu: "In retrospect, Sonic was never good."

Also Himu: "Shenmue is still awesome."
 
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« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2017, 01:24:13 PM »
WTF, this is actually legit? I might need to pick this up.

That level list looks awesome but it is missing my favorite
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No Casino Night Zone  :fbm
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« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2017, 01:43:04 PM »
WTF, this is actually legit? I might need to pick this up.

That level list looks awesome but it is missing my favorite
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No Casino Night Zone  :fbm
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Its REALLY great. On par with classic sonic Genesis style.
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« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2017, 02:49:25 PM »
Happy for everyone loving the new Sonic. Unfortunately I wouldn't and that makes me sad but it is what it is.
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« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2017, 03:09:22 PM »
I'm not doing a drive by. :lol I'm legitimately happy for the Sonic fanbase that there's a good Sonic game.
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« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2017, 03:44:58 PM »
Bought on Switch via my browser at work. Had $28 eShop credit apparently. :leon

Nintendo finally getting with the times :rejoice

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« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2017, 05:28:02 PM »
Is it just the first zone or are the bonus stages way too frequent?

What do the coins do from the globe stages do?

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« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2017, 05:32:53 PM »
Happy for everyone loving the new Sonic. Unfortunately I wouldn't and that makes me sad but it is what it is.


You don't enjoy the classic 2D games either then?
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« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2017, 05:38:48 PM »
Can we talk about the game instead of making this a deconstruction of Himu's hatred of the franchise?



The medals unlock extra moves and cheats. I got the super peel out from SCD for getting three or four medals.

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« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2017, 05:48:36 PM »
What do the coins do from the globe stages do?

Add to your time.

No I mean the reward you get at the end of the stages from Sonic 3 where you run along the globe and collect all the blue orbs. It's cheats and moves.

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« Reply #42 on: August 15, 2017, 07:17:14 PM »
I did great at the bonus levels in the first zone but got torched in the second. Also had some questionable crush deaths but that may have been the same in the original.

Holy shit at that boss lol. Don't get spoiled on this game.

What is the power up that makes your coin counter blue?

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« Reply #43 on: August 15, 2017, 07:26:10 PM »
Happy for everyone loving the new Sonic. Unfortunately I wouldn't and that makes me sad but it is what it is.

It's kinda ridiculous to just write it off, especially when the game actually does some new things and isn't structured in exactly the same way as the previous games were.  It's a different team of people who developed this and it shows.
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« Reply #44 on: August 15, 2017, 07:28:21 PM »
That's the bubble.

Got the game to see how it is. I was a sonic fan too long and waited forever for a good sonic to not check it out.

So far it's meeting expectations. It's a Sonic game and I find it very boring. The bonus stages with the Sonic CD esque stages are really bad and control awful. It has fun level gimmicks but doesn't take full advantage of them. On the flip side I really like how it messes with player expectation if you're a vet. That's neat but not enough to carry the game. Presentation is excellent. Really like what they did with Chemical Plant Act 2, though. That was always one of my favorites and they made it even better.
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« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2017, 07:45:11 PM »
Viscen, I was wrong. The blue ring indicator its own thing.
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« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2017, 07:48:30 PM »
It's definitely different, but I don't know what it does. Does it make your rings huge when hit or does that happen when you have a lot anyway?

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« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2017, 07:58:47 PM »
Yeah so it's easier to amass more rings if you get hit
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« Reply #48 on: August 15, 2017, 08:19:40 PM »
i gotta admit that this is making me realize it's been five years since we had a new sonic racing :-\

with sumo digital spending their time now working on snake pass, crackdown 3 and dead island 2

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« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2017, 08:30:17 PM »
So far:

Green Hill - not bad, not good. Standard Green Hill with a spin. Loved seeing the remix of Green Hill Act 3 (original) on Act 2. I tested it to see if it was the same. Did my hidden low route I liked when I was a kid, and yup. It was the same. Then I went to higher ground. Excellent art design here.

Chemical Plant - so far the star of the show. Act 2 is great.

Studiopolis - I hate casino stages and this is no different. Boring.

Flying Battery - I've always found this stage to be among the worst in Sonic 3 and Knuckles. It's plodding, drawn out, and boring. Mania does nothing to fix this defecation. Sandopolis would have been the better pick but then they had to make their own sand stage.

Press Garden - it's ok. Not a fan of the gimmick.
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« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2017, 08:31:16 PM »
i gotta admit that this is making me realize it's been five years since we had a new sonic racing :-\

with sumo digital spending their time now working on snake pass, crackdown 3 and dead island 2

Yeah.   :'(  Loved those games.  Much better than Mario Kart.
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« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2017, 08:37:58 PM »
How do I get emeralds in the bonus stages? I got to Mach 3 and nothing came after that except a bonus? ???
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« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2017, 08:39:46 PM »
How do I get emeralds in the bonus stages? I got to Mach 3 and nothing came after that except a bonus? ???

The Sonic CD style ones?  You just catch the robot.  ???
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« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2017, 09:06:45 PM »
Dr. Robotnik is pretty bad at Puyo Puyo.
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« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2017, 10:30:00 PM »
i gotta admit that this is making me realize it's been five years since we had a new sonic racing :-\

with sumo digital spending their time now working on snake pass, crackdown 3 and dead island 2

Yeah.   :'(  Loved those games.  Much better than Mario Kart.
It's definitely time for a new one of them since it's a new console generation. I figure some year when they don't have a mainline sonic happening it'll show up at e3, hopefully next years.
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« Reply #55 on: August 15, 2017, 11:11:10 PM »
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK THIS GAME IS SO FUNNNNN

like god damn they perfectly nailed the level design of the old games. im spazzing out like a little kid omggggggg
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« Reply #56 on: August 15, 2017, 11:51:12 PM »
also whoever bought the soundtrack: SMART MOVE
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« Reply #57 on: August 16, 2017, 12:48:40 AM »
What are you supposed to do with Studiopolis' first boss? Nothing hurts the flying guys and the missiles kill you.

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« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2017, 01:29:39 AM »
Hit the blue missile. Shit design like most of the game.

I really, really need to play a fighting game after playing this. I need release. Why do I buy into gamer hype? I hate games that aren't fighting games. This game does nothing to fix the core problems with Sonic's design, such as how awful rings are for instance and how much the levels rely on watching and mini cutscenes as Sonic spirals through shit very, very fast. They have managed to keep the style over substance of the Genesis Sonic's to a tee and they should be proud.
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« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2017, 03:23:45 AM »
Can we talk about the game instead of making this a deconstruction of Himu's hatred of the franchise?



The medals unlock extra moves and cheats. I got the super peel out from SCD for getting three or four medals.

Eh I had no idea that apparantly Himu hates the franchise lol.

But yeah, this game is off the charts. The music and level design is bloody amazing, and the physics feel right.

I'm up to the oil zone boss, but got killed a few times.
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