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[Boredfrom]

Has no one mentioned that Gamergate icon Brad Glasgow is now on Era?

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4613725/

no one gives a shit about gamergate, and i swear if you guys talk about this garbage for pages again, i'll spam this thread with shia la beef's fursona

How else we can discuss deep stuff like this

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-pee-in-the-shower.24057/

[Momo]

Norm Macdonald is fucking hilarious in ways I cant explain, I dont know why he makes me laugh, when I look at his material from a detached view I'm not sure it's even funny, but when I'm watching his stuff I die laughing

[Momo]

[Atramental]

[etiolate]

"At first, these soldiers had to pull the prisoners out of the camp, knowing they'd be killed. And the labor wasn't the point of the labor camps. Not at all. They would have the prisoners haul sacks of rocks from one part of the camp to the other. And those that didn't, well, they made them strip naked and sleep outside in the snow. At first, these guards were burying the bodies. Inch by inch, man, they'd go along with it. The next week they were shooting the prisoners. By the end, they were torturing the prisoners. They lost their humanity bit by bit. I mean, these guys were real jerks."

[Assimilate]

What are y'all favourite comedians besides Chapelle?

Jim Jefferies

[jorma]

i have no idea what 'kek folk' means, speak english you fuckin ninny

What's up with all these angry outbursts all the time?
I think you need to get laid man.

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/waypoint-we-havent-covered-kingdom-come-deliverance-lets-talk-about-why.24062/

Goddamn waypoint sucks

[etiolate]

One of my fav Norm jokes was his Crocodile Hunter rant on the Daily Show a week after the guy died. Unfortunately, comedy central keeps it off of YT.

[benjipwns]

Though this probably makes him evil alt-righter now:

https://twitter.com/normmacdonald/status/964024730423455744

He was a new wave neo-Nazi long before that tweet:

Do you find any Trump satire funny?
Personally, with comedy, I think if it doesn’t make you laugh 100 years from now, what good is it? Have you listened to a Mort Sahl album lately? The Eisenhower stuff is a little weak.

So it’s not working for SNL?
It’s good for them, because Saturday Night Live is at its best when it’s political. You’d think they’ll have to find another approach to Trump eventually. I can’t see making jokes with that fever behind them for so long before the whole thing collapses into itself. But, you know, I don’t want to watch things about Trump in real life, so I definitely don’t want to watch it in comedy. If I see that stuff, I change to ESPN. I can’t take Morning Joe anymore. I can’t take wall-to-wall Trump. I see his picture all the time almost like how’d you’d see Mao’s picture all the time in China. Not in a fascist way, which is how it seems like Trump’s being portrayed. I don’t think that’s the kind of person he is.

What kind of person do you think he is?
You know, people say stuff like, “You gotta wake up. Trump and his boys are trying to take over. There’s a coup going on.” That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. I don’t know much, but I know coups are not undertaken by the president of the United States. If anything, it looks like a coup going on the other way. They’re talking about impeaching a guy before any investigation has even begun.

You think he’s being treated unfairly?
Remember how people would get really mad if someone referred to President Obama as just Obama and not President Obama? “You’re talking about President Obama.” Now Trump’s critics never call him President Trump. It’s just “Trump’s over there, pretending to be president again.” The whole thing is crazy. But I think what they’re doing on Saturday Night Live is smart, especially when they go after the side characters like Spicer.

There’s probably some element of cynicism there too. SNL’s Trump stuff has done so well for them.
I don’t know, I’ll spend my time on YouTube watching William F. Buckley talking to some super intellectual on Firing Line. The funny thing is that the subjects are exactly the same. They were talking about immigration back then, too.

The subjects stayed the same, the caliber of public conversation didn’t.
Instead of dumb guys, have super-smart guys that like each other talking about stuff. Maybe someone should give that a try again.

I understand that people’s politics shift, but I’ll see a Dennis Miller line about climate change and think, Do you really not believe that issue is a problem? Or do you feel obligated to take this position because of who butters your bread? I don’t mean that disparagingly. I’m legitimately curious to know where his politics end and his act begins.
So you think he just says this stuff as a money-making thing? I think some people are cynical like that, but I know Dennis and I don’t think that happened with him. He was pretty liberal and then 9/11 just blew his mind. It knocked him out and changed everything for him. That’s what it is.

It feels like he became sort of an ideologue.
I think he really believes what he believes. But he’s still funny. So when people go, “What happened to Dennis? He’s not funny anymore” — no, he’s still funny. If you listen to his jokes, they’re the same, it’s just that the premises are different. He still does the thing where he picks some guy from Petticoat Junction and throws him in a joke. I think the cynicism you’re talking about does happen on the right a lot more than it does on the left. When I watch Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly, Tucker Carlson — there’s extreme entertainment value in what they’re doing. Tucker Carlson is practically laughing the whole time he’s on camera.

With disdain.
A mocking laughter. Oh, those crazy old liberals. But the liberals aren’t laughing. They’re going, Oh, those evil Republicans and saying it with real venom. It’s hard to get people on your side when you’re that guy. On an entertainment level, the Republicans may be winning just because it’s more fun to listen to them.

Are you following the Kathy Griffin stuff at all?
What she did was grotesque. Disgusting. It shows how isolated everyone is. I was golfing last week and I told the guy I was golfing with, “It’s getting pretty crazy. I heard someone say they’re trying to ‘humanize’ Trump. Well, he is human.” And this guy goes, “Well, barely.” Jesus Christ. But Kathy Griffin went about as far as you can go. It’s like she had no sense of the history of that kind of image.

Some of your peers — I’m thinking of Jerry Seinfeld and Chris Rock — have said they don’t want to play college campuses because those environments are oversensitive. But isn’t it also progress for people to call out what might actually be offensive material as offensive?
You want to be on the right side of history with these issues; you don’t want to look like an idiot. But comics always think they’re right. They never consider, “Oh, maybe I’m wrong about this social issue.” The stuff that’s happening on college campuses, though, like, this “resistance” stuff — I don’t even like protests. It’s all too much for me.

What’s wrong with protests?
I don’t like groups of people. If I’m walking down the street, I think it’s freaky to see a group. And if I saw a group of people that was obviously all thinking alike? Oh god, that’d scare the fuck out of me. I’d just be like, what does that sign they’re all carrying say? I better agree with it or I might be in trouble. And what’s going on in colleges, with not giving free speech to morons, is ridiculous. It’s insulting to everyone in the country to think people can’t handle hearing some distinguished mentally-challenged fellow. I can listen to any distinguished mentally-challenged fellow I want. Like, I enjoy listening to Louis Farrakhan. He’s just funny to me. Or Charles Manson. I like listening to crazy people.

Ah, okay. So like, “call Charles Manson crazy, but the man could write a song?”
With Manson, his biggest flaw was probably his bloodlust for slaughtering people.

[who is ted danson?]

one day waypoint is going to sniff one of their own farts so hard that they choke and die

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/waypoint-we-havent-covered-kingdom-come-deliverance-lets-talk-about-why.24062/

Goddamn waypoint sucks

wow, thread actually got it in one, hadn't yet seen that on resetera:

So they're talking about it while not talking about it? Were they hoping more people would notice their lack of talking about this game or something?

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4657965/

So what’s the controversy? I never heard about it.

USER WAS WARNED FOR: JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, SO TIRED... WHAT YOU REALLY MEAN WITH THIS POST IS OBVIOUS, DON'T MAKE OTHERS DEFEND THEIR HUMANITY

[Raist]

I love how they copypasta the same disclaimer at the beginning of any thread about the game

[etiolate]

What’s wrong with protests?

I don’t like groups of people. If I’m walking down the street, I think it’s freaky to see a group. And if I saw a group of people that was obviously all thinking alike? Oh god, that’d scare the fuck out of me. I’d just be like, what does that sign they’re all carrying say? I better agree with it or I might be in trouble. And what’s going on in colleges, with not giving free speech to morons, is ridiculous. It’s insulting to everyone in the country to think people can’t handle hearing some distinguished mentally-challenged fellow. I can listen to any distinguished mentally-challenged fellow I want. Like, I enjoy listening to Louis Farrakhan. He’s just funny to me. Or Charles Manson. I like listening to crazy people.

Ah, okay. So like, “call Charles Manson crazy, but the man could write a song?”

With Manson, his biggest flaw was probably his bloodlust for slaughtering people.

The setup and punchline from outta nowhere. Norm for god emperor .

[benjipwns]

If this dude tried to make it into the comic industry with these opinions he would have been roasted by the press and public and shamed into hiding. Video games allow his type to stay hidden and as long as he delivers a good product then he gets a pass.

Yep games media is to be blamed for this

Review it and give it a 1/10 to tank the metascore, fucks sake.

[benjipwns]

However, Gamergate is the gatedrug to the actual far-right

[Averon]

They are seething that people don't care what some random guy on a development team said on social media and just wanted to enjoy playing a games they found good. That's partly because normal people don't spend all day on social media looking for wrong-think to get outraged by.

That they are so mad normal people aren't sperging out about Kingdom Come Deliverance and is actually enjoying the game is pathetic.

[Averon]

Review it and give it a 1/10 to tank the metascore, fucks sake.

Advocating reviewers to be petty and unprofessional just to virtue signal. They are nuts 

[benjipwns]

gonna start a gaming website where every (non-Nintendo) game gets a 0/10 review until the developers sign legally binding affidavits that they've never and will never do anything i find objectionable

imma durnk wiht powerrrr

[etiolate]

They have yet to respond to Brad Glasgow posting in that thread.

This goes along with my intellectual prey animal theory. They hide in the herd for protection, make "callouts" to warn the herd, but when face to face with the thing itself, they run away, freeze up or play dead. All prey animal behaviors, just translated into human beings who can't win internet arguments.

[Marhunchy]

When's KCD coming out on GOG?

Resist

[etiolate]

It's on GOG.

[Boredfrom]

If they were totally silent, it could be viewed as them just wanting to avoid the issue and forfeiting the narrative to someone else. Making a statement about how you aren't going to talk about it anymore gives some attention, but it's still the difference between actually making a statement and closing your eyes and hoping for the best.

But they stay silent when it is their parent company doing wrong doing.

Exactly, if Warhorse Studio make KCD 2 without Vavrá i would not have any issue buying it.

Well, it doesnt seem that you are needed as a costumer.

[Averon]

I also find it rich how they are all praising WayPoint after their recent sexually harassment allegations. Given the logic in that thread, WayPoint should be excommunicated from ERA. But of course they aren't going to do that since WayPoint is "woke." Just goes to show their outrage is not serious at all and is just an excuse to show how "woke" they are to each other.

[etiolate]

If it's one thing Vice is good about, it's staying silent. One of the many things they have in common with GAF/Reset.

[HaughtyFrank]

Waypoint disliking a game is like a seal of approval, especially when they feel the need to highlight it. This whole controversy probably only added to their sales

[LurkinMerkin]

I will not buy a game with anybody on staff that has an incorrect opinion and will support anything that gets them unemployed even if it means suffering for thier whole family. People need to stop believing in this crap and come to correct positions on things.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4658279/

Jesus Christ! Maybe FriedConsole should become a disciple of Kermit Peterson.

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We are not so different, you and I, resetera.

[Transhuman]

I read quite a bit recently about how Norm McDonald resents being called an anti-comic/metacomic for his longform jokes like the moth joke.

[etiolate]

He doesn't like the idea that he's doing anything other than a joke. He is making the audience suffer in his telling, but to him that's not anti-comedy but a part of the craft of telling a story for comedic purpose.

[Averon]

I mean if you're looking for the literal words "non whites are sub human", you're:

A. Probably not going to find them.
B. Seemingly trying to dismiss criticism on a technicality.

That's how people like Vavra roll. They don't ever say what they believe directly, just allude to it so people go "well they didn't DIRECTLY SAY they hated black people/jews/muslims/whatever!"

Their ability to find out what a person really thinks is impeccable.

[Raist]

Totally different situation. They are not saying that they will stop covering any problematics games. Stop conflating everything bad as the same. Having case of sexual harrasment in your company is not the same as having a far-right openly racist boss making a game.

Uh ooohhhh

[Boredfrom]

I swear, Gaming and EtcetEra feel like two completely different forums with two completely different userbases at times. This would not be a controversial opinion at all on the other side.

"Is like people that like to discuss video games are burned out social progressive talk by people that get mad by a bikini fighting game"

EDIT

https://www.resetera.com/posts/4660078/

Really hope mod are not sleeping on this thread, so disgusted and tired of people that defend racist human being

MODS HELP

[benjipwns]

In this case he didn't say it, he instead wore it on a shirt. That's how crafty these Nazi types are these days.

Hitler showed them that publishing all your ideas in a book would make it too obvious.

[Raist]

I mean if you're looking for the literal words "non whites are sub human", you're:

A. Probably not going to find them.
B. Seemingly trying to dismiss criticism on a technicality.

Accusing someone of saying "non whites are sub human" when they haven't is a technicality brehs.

[Great Rumbler]

I read quite a bit recently about how Norm McDonald resents being called an anti-comic/metacomic for his longform jokes like the moth joke.

I've read that, too; basically he doesn't like the idea that he's "telling bad/unfunny jokes on purpose to be meta." Instead, he just tells jokes that he personally thinks are funny.

[nudemacusers]

The irony of waypoint aka a vice outlet firing shots at other companies for problematic leadership 

[benjipwns]

Norm has said that the perfect joke is one where the setup and punchline are the same.

[Transhuman]

He doesn't like the idea that he's doing anything other than a joke. He is making the audience suffer in his telling, but to him that's not anti-comedy but a part of the craft of telling a story for comedic purpose.

Yeah, I mean I don't even understand the meaning of anti-comedy. Shit is either funny or not. "Unfunny comedy" is an oxymoron, there's no such thing. I can't even think of an example of anti-comedy. The wikiarticle says that Eric Andre is an anti-comic, when he's a surrealist/performance/prank/parody/cringe comic.

[Uncle]

I read quite a bit recently about how Norm McDonald resents being called an anti-comic/metacomic for his longform jokes like the moth joke.

I've read that, too; basically he doesn't like the idea that he's "telling bad/unfunny jokes on purpose to be meta." Instead, he just tells jokes that he personally thinks are funny.

All you have to do is look at the moth joke on the previous page, yes it's a long path to get to the punchline, but people are laughing the whole way at various parts for different reasons.  The idea that he's making up names badly as he goes, the really dark subject matter, etc.  If it were anti-comedy then nobody would be laughing.  If no one was laughing I think Norm would notice and try to say or do something to get them going again.

When people say it's "anti-comedy" I think they're just having trouble articulating how it's obviously comedy, but funny for different reasons than what they normally laugh at.

[etiolate]

anti-comedy is like

A homeless guy walks into a bar...

because alcoholism has ruined his life.

[Boredfrom]

Yes.

They describe his position with neutral and distilled terms like "views." Then downplay his influence on the game by making him out to be just one of the many drones responsible for one of the many little pieces that make up the game, when he stands out above the rest to have a long and prosperous career out of the success of this game to do God knows what with the money.

Some of the gamers here condone it and raise the "I can separate the game from the artist" card to conceal their indifference on the matter or perhaps their subscription to his views.

If they didn't care about making an asshole money, they should have stayed on neogaf.

Well, is nice to see people having high opinion of the individuals that make a studio.

[TVC15]

What are y'all favourite comedians besides Chapelle? I'm drawing a blank for names of comedians whose standup material I actually enjoy. Patton Oswalt and Louie CK are the only names that really come to mind as having near flawless sets, with no joke that seems weak compared to others.

That Chapelle set was fucking flawless though. I had to watch equanimity and bird rev twice they were so on-point.

Hannibal Buress is my current fave. I saw him three times last year and it was all new material each time (aside from a bit with a 5 minute or so video), and he was amazing each time.

[Boredfrom]

Yes, it's Hearts of Stone and it was very nice. It's what happens when the other party is open to discussion and not racist.

Fuck you Golden Pingeon,I remember the CD Project controversy shit show.

[Transhuman]

I mean that's not really anti-comedy that's funny. It subverts the setup. I assumed by saying he hates anti-comedy he was refering to stuff like Neil Hamburger or On Cinema at the Cinema.

[I'm a Puppy!]

I think the sales numbers have shown, people don't care.

[Boredfrom]

Threads like these remind me why i stick mainly to OT these days. Alt-right infiltrating gaming something bad.

Jesus.

[Uncle]

anti-comedy is like

A homeless guy walks into a bar...

because alcoholism has ruined his life.

[LurkinMerkin]

Really hope mod are not sleeping on this thread, so disgusted and tired of people that defend racist human beings

Some of the gamers here condone it and raise the "I can separate the game from the artist" card to conceal their indifference on the matter or perhaps their subscription to his views.

If they didn't care about making an asshole money, they should have stayed on neogaf.

1. Vávra's views on a multitude of subjects are offensive and racist. Defense of his views will be moderated like any other defense of racism. Do not try to find sneaky ways to circumvent this ruling, like singling out Vávra for nonspecific praise or support.

2. Buying this game does not automatically make someone a horrible person and nothing will be learned or gained by anyone if you take that stance. Do not attack other members just for buying the game or enjoying mundane aspects of the game. Do not attempt to shame them. ​

mods...help? But who will they help?

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Just kidding. We know who they’ll help.

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[Boredfrom]

Exactly. I browse this forum precisely because it's the only damn gaming forum that isn't a shithole on matters like this, but it seems like I was wrong :

Maybe the problem is not them?

Also, they are going to lynch Doc Seuss lol

[Raist]

Someone should start HardResetERA.

[etiolate]

https://steamspy.com/


Vivra La Gamergate

[Nintex]

The only difference between Vavra and Hitler is that Hitler is dead

https://www.resetera.com/threads/waypoint-we-havent-covered-kingdom-come-deliverance-lets-talk-about-why.24062/page-4#post-4660160

JESUS CHRIST CERIUM, NIBEL AND ZHUGEX, get your shit in order. 

[benjipwns]

User Banned (Pending Review): Dismissing the impact of hate movements and downplaying multiple forms of intolerance.

mods helped

[Boredfrom]

Someone should start HardResetERA.

Offtopic only forum, no video games allowed.

Vavra La Gamergate

Nah, they can get themselves fucked with Resetera.

[benjipwns]

Did you read rule #2 in the OP?

I'll take a warning or temporary ban.

What I won't allow is for someone to hide behind "#2" to create a narrative that marginalizes the views and concerns of people such as myself.

i don't use the word "hero" lightly, but i'm glad that Disney's Marvel's Black Panther is encouraging minorities to finally fight back against their oppressors

[Boredfrom]

User Banned (Pending Review): Dismissing the impact of hate movements and downplaying multiple forms of intolerance.

mods helped

I'm gonna be honest here.. I don't care... I play games and rarely think about the developers, who they are, their views, agendas, sexual orientation, ect. If you guys wanna fight and argue about why the other hundreds or so people should have their game thrown in the trash be my guest. If a website wants to flaunt about how they won't cover a game because of some controversy I'm gonna be honest again.. you're making a statement about the controversy simply to gain those opposed to it. Whether or not they agree or disagree with the views of the creative director, making a statement about not making a statement is the same as covering a game to get views or clicks. If you don't support it or don't want to write about it.. simply keep it to yourself. People I swear spend more time arguing about the political views and sexual orientation of developers and people than ACTUALLY playing games it makes my head spin. To this day I still have no idea what gamers gate is... And I plan on keeping it that way while I enjoy the games people make. Enjoy the games guys... Isn't that why were here?

And people got banned again by not knowing what Gamergate was...

[benjipwns]

The 'I've studied history, there really weren't black people around in those parts!' posts are fucking toxic. And so politically loaded considering what is going on in Europe and the US.

Yes, namely the release of Disney's Marvel's Black Panther, which is not just a film, but a revolution. Pre-purchase your tickets today for multiple viewings.

[Nintex]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/waypoint-we-havent-covered-kingdom-come-deliverance-lets-talk-about-why.24062/page-6#post-4661023

Temp lock, the NKVD has arrived.

PREPARE YOUR RIFLES GENTLEMEN WE HAVE UNDESIRABLES TO SHOOT

[benjipwns]

Diversity does not refer to the inclusion of anti-diversity views. Nice try though.

MARCUSE!!!