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« Reply #3840 on: March 20, 2018, 04:50:23 PM »
Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 3 were the ones that killed the company for me.

Funny, that was the first Mass Effect. Them dropping D20 is what killed them.

That era of Bioware gave us Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood. With the best videogame soundtrack ever.

No shitting on that era.

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« Reply #3841 on: March 20, 2018, 04:51:03 PM »
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yea im not taking the word of someone who teaches their pet this bullshit at face value.

how does he know they are 'antifa/far left radicals'?

*note not condoning threats here...

https://www.resetera.com/posts/5807079/

Not condoning death threats, but not believing the person who says they were made against them.  :thinking :thinking :thinking

Good thing they're not talking about Anita.

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« Reply #3842 on: March 20, 2018, 04:55:11 PM »
https://twitter.com/CountDankulaTV/status/976114316888993792

Thank god he will be tagged.  You can't be racist if the government knows your location at all times.
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« Reply #3843 on: March 20, 2018, 04:56:31 PM »
It is pretty curious that the anti-prison pro-rehabilitation types tend to be pretty cheery about jailing people who make their dogs do Nazi salutes or put bacon in front of a mosque (that guy got murdered in jail).

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« Reply #3844 on: March 20, 2018, 05:02:40 PM »
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« Reply #3845 on: March 20, 2018, 05:03:18 PM »
Teaching your dog to be a nazi is fucking hilarious.

Also, we all live in a simulation. The Sieg Heil thing works on the dogs as well.  :doge
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« Reply #3846 on: March 20, 2018, 05:07:43 PM »
What if the dog taught him to be a nazi tho.

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« Reply #3848 on: March 20, 2018, 05:25:04 PM »
what is the thing with deadpool and manabyte?

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« Reply #3850 on: March 20, 2018, 05:27:35 PM »
Get Manabyte here as our next special guest. He’s like a sad, deformed Ted Danson. It’s the closest we’re gonna get.
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« Reply #3851 on: March 20, 2018, 05:30:35 PM »
Type o negative  :-X
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« Reply #3852 on: March 20, 2018, 05:30:35 PM »
Type O Negative

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« Reply #3853 on: March 20, 2018, 05:32:14 PM »
Damnit, I told myself I was going to take a break from this bullshit after the cream thing last week. REEEE just keeps REEEling me back in with their stupidity. ARGH.

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« Reply #3855 on: March 20, 2018, 05:37:22 PM »
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« Reply #3856 on: March 20, 2018, 05:42:49 PM »
IRL I'm considered a bleeding heart liberal. On REEEE, I'm almost a Nazi.. go figure.
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« Reply #3857 on: March 20, 2018, 05:48:45 PM »
Type 0  :bow2

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« Reply #3858 on: March 20, 2018, 05:48:48 PM »
I can't find a GIF of it but there's a scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark where the shady Egyptian dude's pet monkey salutes back to the Gestapo men when they say heil hitler.

Can we put Spielberg and Lucas in jail now?

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« Reply #3859 on: March 20, 2018, 05:48:49 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/5804624/

how can you say this when we call out your racism all the time?

Lol yeah that’s totally what you were doing, “calling out racism”.

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« Reply #3860 on: March 20, 2018, 05:50:01 PM »
I un-ironically love Type O but that Summer Breeze cover is garbage.

Sez the dude that wouldn’t even show me his dick.
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« Reply #3861 on: March 20, 2018, 05:51:20 PM »
or put bacon in front of a mosque (that guy got murdered in jail).

owned  8)
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« Reply #3862 on: March 20, 2018, 05:53:40 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wakanda-isnt-real.30884/

"It's racism and a dash of colonialism. Wakanda's existence, unlike Hogwarts or Middle-Earth, asks the benefactors of colonialism to acknowledge what has been sacrificed or destroyed to make their lives possible."
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« Reply #3863 on: March 20, 2018, 05:57:42 PM »
I un-ironically love Type O but that Summer Breeze cover is garbage.

Sez the dude that wouldn’t even show me his dick.

Come up to Ohio. It's just the amount of disgusting you'd love.

Where in Ohio?
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« Reply #3864 on: March 20, 2018, 05:57:58 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wakanda-isnt-real.30884/

"It's racism and a dash of colonialism. Wakanda's existence, unlike Hogwarts or Middle-Earth, asks the benefactors of colonialism to acknowledge what has been sacrificed or destroyed to make their lives possible."

What’s wrong with that statement? Completely accurate.

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« Reply #3865 on: March 20, 2018, 05:58:13 PM »
I un-ironically love Type O but that Summer Breeze cover is garbage.

Sez the dude that wouldn’t even show me his dick.

Come up to Ohio. It's just the amount of disgusting you'd love.

Ugh. I wouldn’t go to Ohio even if there were a giant dome over it that made everyone under it feel like they were on ecstacy 24x7.
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« Reply #3866 on: March 20, 2018, 06:01:23 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wakanda-isnt-real.30884/

"It's racism and a dash of colonialism. Wakanda's existence, unlike Hogwarts or Middle-Earth, asks the benefactors of colonialism to acknowledge what has been sacrificed or destroyed to make their lives possible."

What’s wrong with that statement? Completely accurate.

Is not inaccurate but the movie also paints Wakanda to be in the wrong in ignoring the rest of the world.

Mind you, people have also shit on Hogwarts, middle earth and other fictional places.

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« Reply #3867 on: March 20, 2018, 06:02:06 PM »

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« Reply #3868 on: March 20, 2018, 06:02:19 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wakanda-isnt-real.30884/

"It's racism and a dash of colonialism. Wakanda's existence, unlike Hogwarts or Middle-Earth, asks the benefactors of colonialism to acknowledge what has been sacrificed or destroyed to make their lives possible."

What’s wrong with that statement? Completely accurate.

Is not inaccurate but the movie also paints Wakanda to be in the wrong in ignoring the rest of the world.

Okay? Not sure how that’s relevant.

That poster was talking about what Wakanda symbolically represents in a western context

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« Reply #3869 on: March 20, 2018, 06:06:37 PM »
If your idea of Wakanda is that which would exist without european colonialism happening then, yes, Wakanda isn't real.

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« Reply #3870 on: March 20, 2018, 06:07:23 PM »
I'm going to jail doing what I loved

Being a cunt?
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« Reply #3871 on: March 20, 2018, 06:09:29 PM »
If your idea of Wakanda is that which would exist without european colonialism happening then, yes, Wakanda isn't real.

Not LITERALLY Wakanda, but a technological prosperous rich Body of black people free from white supremacy. Not just Africa. That is a symbol that matters to black people all over the world.

No one thinks without white supremacy we would have hovercars and nanomachine catsuits.

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« Reply #3872 on: March 20, 2018, 06:10:48 PM »
I wish Hogwarts was real too. :(

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« Reply #3873 on: March 20, 2018, 06:12:34 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wakanda-isnt-real.30884/

"It's racism and a dash of colonialism. Wakanda's existence, unlike Hogwarts or Middle-Earth, asks the benefactors of colonialism to acknowledge what has been sacrificed or destroyed to make their lives possible."

What’s wrong with that statement? Completely accurate.

Is not inaccurate but the movie also paints Wakanda to be in the wrong in ignoring the rest of the world.

Okay? Not sure how that’s relevant.

That poster was talking about what Wakanda symbolically represents in a western context

Yeah, but is not the whole western perspective given that Wakanda is a western entertainment creation. The film portrays Wakanda as  highly idealistic but still flawed society, so is weird seeing people overly enthusiastic of a fictional country that still has its fair share of problems.

But then again, this also happens with the other examples on  that OP thread.

Cream, honey, don't waste your time. This thread and it's arguments are never worth it.

But I liked Black Panther a lot. :(

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« Reply #3874 on: March 20, 2018, 06:13:07 PM »
I un-ironically love Type O but that Summer Breeze cover is garbage.

Sez the dude that wouldn’t even show me his dick.

Come up to Ohio. It's just the amount of disgusting you'd love.

Ugh. I wouldn’t go to Ohio even if there were a giant dome over it that made everyone under it feel like they were on ecstacy 24x7.

Hey it was my ticket back in so I took it. Only way you'll get this work is if you show up here.

Plus there's a lot of non-binaries here. We can kidnap some and have them fuckfight for our own amusement.

I don’t blame you. I’m glad you’re back. I wish you’d just prostitute/porno your way to me before my heart gives out.
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« Reply #3875 on: March 20, 2018, 06:14:58 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wakanda-isnt-real.30884/

"It's racism and a dash of colonialism. Wakanda's existence, unlike Hogwarts or Middle-Earth, asks the benefactors of colonialism to acknowledge what has been sacrificed or destroyed to make their lives possible."

What’s wrong with that statement? Completely accurate.

Is not inaccurate but the movie also paints Wakanda to be in the wrong in ignoring the rest of the world.

Okay? Not sure how that’s relevant.

That poster was talking about what Wakanda symbolically represents in a western context

Yeah, but is not the whole western perspective given that Wakanda is a western entertainment creation. The film portrays Wakanda as  highly idealistic but still flawed society, so is weird seeing people overly enthusiastic of a fictional country that still has its fair share of problems.

But then again, this also happens with the other examples on  that OP thread.

As I explained, it’s because of what it represents for us as a people.  We can only admire Wakanda if it’s a perfect nation with no flaws?

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« Reply #3876 on: March 20, 2018, 06:15:25 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wakanda-isnt-real.30884/

"It's racism and a dash of colonialism. Wakanda's existence, unlike Hogwarts or Middle-Earth, asks the benefactors of colonialism to acknowledge what has been sacrificed or destroyed to make their lives possible."

What’s wrong with that statement? Completely accurate.

Is not inaccurate but the movie also paints Wakanda to be in the wrong in ignoring the rest of the world.

Seriously though, what specifically is inaccurate about that statement?

Like usual a Reee thread involves quite a number of low IQ posters and posts, but I guess I don't really find any fault with that statement specifically?

The history of Africa is largely one of tipping points of history tilting the other way followed up by an extended  legacy of deep colonialism and external subjugation/influence. For Wakanda to work in the way the series uses it as part of the modern world, you kind of have to run into these facts.

Outside of that, like etiolate is asserting, there is no basis to conclude that a highly advanced nation like Wakanda couldn't of emerged, other than the obvious fact that magical materials that fuel their economy don't exist and this is a pop culture franchise. We just don't know what life would be like across Africa had those factors tilted the other way or if colonialism never made a run at the entire continent afterwards. To say definitively a highly advanced nation couldn't of emerged is ridiculous though, especially since relative to their time period before those numerous events, or leading up to them, Africa did have nations similarly advanced to their European and Asian counter parts at that given period of history.

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« Reply #3877 on: March 20, 2018, 06:17:43 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wakanda-isnt-real.30884/

"It's racism and a dash of colonialism. Wakanda's existence, unlike Hogwarts or Middle-Earth, asks the benefactors of colonialism to acknowledge what has been sacrificed or destroyed to make their lives possible."

What’s wrong with that statement? Completely accurate.

Is not inaccurate but the movie also paints Wakanda to be in the wrong in ignoring the rest of the world.

Okay? Not sure how that’s relevant.

That poster was talking about what Wakanda symbolically represents in a western context

Yeah, but is not the whole western perspective given that Wakanda is a western entertainment creation. The film portrays Wakanda as  highly idealistic but still flawed society, so is weird seeing people overly enthusiastic of a fictional country that still has its fair share of problems.

But then again, this also happens with the other examples on  that OP thread.

As I explained, it’s because of what it represents for us as a people.  We can only admire Wakanda if it’s a perfect nation with no flaws?

You bothered asking the 50+ African states with how they feel to be part of this "us" that you are representing?

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« Reply #3878 on: March 20, 2018, 06:20:10 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wakanda-isnt-real.30884/

"It's racism and a dash of colonialism. Wakanda's existence, unlike Hogwarts or Middle-Earth, asks the benefactors of colonialism to acknowledge what has been sacrificed or destroyed to make their lives possible."

What’s wrong with that statement? Completely accurate.

Is not inaccurate but the movie also paints Wakanda to be in the wrong in ignoring the rest of the world.

Okay? Not sure how that’s relevant.

That poster was talking about what Wakanda symbolically represents in a western context

Yeah, but is not the whole western perspective given that Wakanda is a western entertainment creation. The film portrays Wakanda as  highly idealistic but still flawed society, so is weird seeing people overly enthusiastic of a fictional country that still has its fair share of problems.

But then again, this also happens with the other examples on  that OP thread.

As I explained, it’s because of what it represents for us as a people.  We can only admire Wakanda if it’s a perfect nation with no flaws?

You bothered asking the 50+ African states with how they feel to be part of this "us" that you are representing?

Disingenuous racist line of questioning. “Oh no a black person thinks of all black people as one people suffering under the boot of white supremacy. The horror!”

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« Reply #3879 on: March 20, 2018, 06:20:15 PM »
That's kind of hard to tell. I imagine the coastal cities and states would be their own thing if they establish trade. The inner lands without access to technology would be left behind.

I think a Wakanda-like ideal is still mostly fantasy. All peoples and lands have gone through war, invasion and confrontation with more organized/advanced groups of humans in history. Maybe the argument is that the difference in advancement was too large in regards to colonialism, but that's not exactly a take that gives me confidence in Africa.

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« Reply #3880 on: March 20, 2018, 06:22:42 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wakanda-isnt-real.30884/

"It's racism and a dash of colonialism. Wakanda's existence, unlike Hogwarts or Middle-Earth, asks the benefactors of colonialism to acknowledge what has been sacrificed or destroyed to make their lives possible."

What’s wrong with that statement? Completely accurate.

Is not inaccurate but the movie also paints Wakanda to be in the wrong in ignoring the rest of the world.

Okay? Not sure how that’s relevant.

That poster was talking about what Wakanda symbolically represents in a western context

Yeah, but is not the whole western perspective given that Wakanda is a western entertainment creation. The film portrays Wakanda as  highly idealistic but still flawed society, so is weird seeing people overly enthusiastic of a fictional country that still has its fair share of problems.

But then again, this also happens with the other examples on  that OP thread.

As I explained, it’s because of what it represents for us as a people.  We can only admire Wakanda if it’s a perfect nation with no flaws?

Not saying that, actually. Just that people seem to forget the self reflecting aspects of BP.

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« Reply #3881 on: March 20, 2018, 06:23:21 PM »
That's kind of hard to tell. I imagine the coastal cities and states would be their own thing if they establish trade. The inner lands without access to technology would be left behind.

I think a Wakanda-like ideal is still mostly fantasy. All peoples and lands have gone through war, invasion and confrontation with more organized/advanced groups of humans in history. Maybe the argument is that the difference in advancement was too large in regards to colonialism, but that's not exactly a take that gives me confidence in Africa.

If your whole argument against us loving Wakanda as a symbol so much is “But realistically Africa (African people) could never prosper like that.” then that’s all the more reason to have the symbol.

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« Reply #3882 on: March 20, 2018, 06:25:33 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wakanda-isnt-real.30884/

"It's racism and a dash of colonialism. Wakanda's existence, unlike Hogwarts or Middle-Earth, asks the benefactors of colonialism to acknowledge what has been sacrificed or destroyed to make their lives possible."

What’s wrong with that statement? Completely accurate.

Is not inaccurate but the movie also paints Wakanda to be in the wrong in ignoring the rest of the world.

Okay? Not sure how that’s relevant.

That poster was talking about what Wakanda symbolically represents in a western context

Yeah, but is not the whole western perspective given that Wakanda is a western entertainment creation. The film portrays Wakanda as  highly idealistic but still flawed society, so is weird seeing people overly enthusiastic of a fictional country that still has its fair share of problems.

But then again, this also happens with the other examples on  that OP thread.

As I explained, it’s because of what it represents for us as a people.  We can only admire Wakanda if it’s a perfect nation with no flaws?

You bothered asking the 50+ African states with how they feel to be part of this "us" that you are representing?

Disingenuous racist line of questioning. “Oh no a black person thinks of all black people as one people suffering under the boot of white supremacy. The horror!”

Swoosh.

Americans representing everyone, again.  :lol

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« Reply #3883 on: March 20, 2018, 06:27:03 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wakanda-isnt-real.30884/

"It's racism and a dash of colonialism. Wakanda's existence, unlike Hogwarts or Middle-Earth, asks the benefactors of colonialism to acknowledge what has been sacrificed or destroyed to make their lives possible."

What’s wrong with that statement? Completely accurate.

Is not inaccurate but the movie also paints Wakanda to be in the wrong in ignoring the rest of the world.

Seriously though, what specifically is inaccurate about that statement?

Like usual a Reee thread involves quite a number of low IQ posters and posts, but I guess I don't really find any fault with that statement specifically?

The history of Africa is largely one of tipping points of history tilting the other way followed up by an extended  legacy of deep colonialism and external subjugation/influence. For Wakanda to work in the way the series uses it as part of the modern world, you kind of have to run into these facts.

Outside of that, like etiolate is asserting, there is no basis to conclude that a highly advanced nation like Wakanda couldn't of emerged, other than the obvious fact that magical materials that fuel their economy don't exist and this is a pop culture franchise. We just don't know what life would be like across Africa had those factors tilted the other way or if colonialism never made a run at the entire continent afterwards. To say definitively a highly advanced nation couldn't of emerged is ridiculous though, especially since relative to their time period before those numerous events, or leading up to them, Africa did have nations similarly advanced to their European and Asian counter parts at that given period of history.

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Well, didn’t say it wasn’t innacurate but that the film itself doesn’t entirely portray Wakanda in a celebratory way.

Also, not arguing about the “unrealistic” concept but why may be backlash.

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« Reply #3884 on: March 20, 2018, 06:28:52 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wakanda-isnt-real.30884/

"It's racism and a dash of colonialism. Wakanda's existence, unlike Hogwarts or Middle-Earth, asks the benefactors of colonialism to acknowledge what has been sacrificed or destroyed to make their lives possible."

What’s wrong with that statement? Completely accurate.

Is not inaccurate but the movie also paints Wakanda to be in the wrong in ignoring the rest of the world.

Okay? Not sure how that’s relevant.

That poster was talking about what Wakanda symbolically represents in a western context

Yeah, but is not the whole western perspective given that Wakanda is a western entertainment creation. The film portrays Wakanda as  highly idealistic but still flawed society, so is weird seeing people overly enthusiastic of a fictional country that still has its fair share of problems.

But then again, this also happens with the other examples on  that OP thread.

As I explained, it’s because of what it represents for us as a people.  We can only admire Wakanda if it’s a perfect nation with no flaws?

You bothered asking the 50+ African states with how they feel to be part of this "us" that you are representing?

Disingenuous racist line of questioning. “Oh no a black person thinks of all black people as one people suffering under the boot of white supremacy. The horror!”

Swoosh.

Americans representing everyone, again.  :lol

https://m.channel24.co.za/Movies/News/black-panther-now-the-all-time-top-grossing-film-in-south-africa-20180320

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/22/587840019/black-panther-sells-out-african-theaters

https://www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/World/Africa/2018/0223/As-Black-Panther-hits-screens-in-Africa-the-hero-is-all-of-us

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2018/02/21/african-audiences-having-emotional-response-black-panther-humanised/amp/

https://www.theroot.com/audiences-across-africa-hail-black-panther-for-humanizi-1823155921/amp

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a8d8bdee4b03414379c2b8a/amp

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/18/opinions/black-panther-minorities-opinion-obeidallah/index.html

Pan-African unity is one of the defining themes of the film and your racist attempt to throw flames at that is noted.




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« Reply #3885 on: March 20, 2018, 06:29:42 PM »
That's kind of hard to tell. I imagine the coastal cities and states would be their own thing if they establish trade. The inner lands without access to technology would be left behind.

I think a Wakanda-like ideal is still mostly fantasy. All peoples and lands have gone through war, invasion and confrontation with more organized/advanced groups of humans in history. Maybe the argument is that the difference in advancement was too large in regards to colonialism, but that's not exactly a take that gives me confidence in Africa.

If your whole argument against us loving Wakanda as a symbol so much is “But realistically Africa (African people) could never prosper like that.” then that’s all the more reason to have the symbol.

Realistically no one has prospered like Wakanda especially as isolationists. It's a fantasy, and not at all representative of any reality for any peoples. Using Wakanda as a symbol for what Africa could have been is silly.

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« Reply #3886 on: March 20, 2018, 06:30:38 PM »
That's kind of hard to tell. I imagine the coastal cities and states would be their own thing if they establish trade. The inner lands without access to technology would be left behind.

I think a Wakanda-like ideal is still mostly fantasy. All peoples and lands have gone through war, invasion and confrontation with more organized/advanced groups of humans in history. Maybe the argument is that the difference in advancement was too large in regards to colonialism, but that's not exactly a take that gives me confidence in Africa.

If your whole argument against us loving Wakanda as a symbol so much is “But realistically Africa (African people) could never prosper like that.” then that’s all the more reason to have the symbol.

Realistically no one has prospered like Wakanda especially as isolationists. It's a fantasy, and not at all representative of any reality for any peoples. Using Wakanda as a symbol for what Africa could have been is silly.

Wouldn’t be the first thing white people (ignorant white people specifically) find silly about blacks. Won’t be the last.

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« Reply #3887 on: March 20, 2018, 06:31:56 PM »
That's kind of hard to tell. I imagine the coastal cities and states would be their own thing if they establish trade. The inner lands without access to technology would be left behind.

I think a Wakanda-like ideal is still mostly fantasy. All peoples and lands have gone through war, invasion and confrontation with more organized/advanced groups of humans in history. Maybe the argument is that the difference in advancement was too large in regards to colonialism, but that's not exactly a take that gives me confidence in Africa.

If your whole argument against us loving Wakanda as a symbol so much is “But realistically Africa (African people) could never prosper like that.” then that’s all the more reason to have the symbol.

Realistically no one has prospered like Wakanda especially as isolationists. It's a fantasy, and not at all representative of any reality for any peoples. Using Wakanda as a symbol for what Africa could have been is silly.

Wouldn’t be the first thing white people find silly about blacks. Won’t be the last.

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« Reply #3888 on: March 20, 2018, 06:32:18 PM »
If your idea of Wakanda is that which would exist without european colonialism happening then, yes, Wakanda isn't real.

Not LITERALLY Wakanda, but a technological prosperous rich Body of black people free from white supremacy. Not just Africa. That is a symbol that matters to black people all over the world.

No one thinks without white supremacy we would have hovercars and nanomachine catsuits.
You're delusional.

If this was the case don't you think at least ONE nation in Africa would have bounced back by now? fucking hell Germany was destroyed twice, Japan got nuked, and look at them now lol

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« Reply #3889 on: March 20, 2018, 06:34:06 PM »
If your idea of Wakanda is that which would exist without european colonialism happening then, yes, Wakanda isn't real.

Not LITERALLY Wakanda, but a technological prosperous rich Body of black people free from white supremacy. Not just Africa. That is a symbol that matters to black people all over the world.

No one thinks without white supremacy we would have hovercars and nanomachine catsuits.
You're delusional.

If this was the case don't you think at least ONE nation in Africa would have bounced back by now? fucking hell Germany was destroyed twice, Japan got nuked, and look at them now lol

Why do you think African people all over the world are doing so poorly, Assimilate?

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« Reply #3890 on: March 20, 2018, 06:34:06 PM »
If your idea of Wakanda is that which would exist without european colonialism happening then, yes, Wakanda isn't real.

Not LITERALLY Wakanda, but a technological prosperous rich Body of black people free from white supremacy. Not just Africa. That is a symbol that matters to black people all over the world.

No one thinks without white supremacy we would have hovercars and nanomachine catsuits.
You're delusional.

If this was the case don't you think at least ONE nation in Africa would have bounced back by now? fucking hell Germany was destroyed twice, Japan got nuked, and look at them now lol

Ehh, I get what you're saying but the US helped rebuild both of those countries after the war.

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« Reply #3891 on: March 20, 2018, 06:35:58 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wakanda-isnt-real.30884/

"It's racism and a dash of colonialism. Wakanda's existence, unlike Hogwarts or Middle-Earth, asks the benefactors of colonialism to acknowledge what has been sacrificed or destroyed to make their lives possible."

What’s wrong with that statement? Completely accurate.

Is not inaccurate but the movie also paints Wakanda to be in the wrong in ignoring the rest of the world.

Okay? Not sure how that’s relevant.

That poster was talking about what Wakanda symbolically represents in a western context

Yeah, but is not the whole western perspective given that Wakanda is a western entertainment creation. The film portrays Wakanda as  highly idealistic but still flawed society, so is weird seeing people overly enthusiastic of a fictional country that still has its fair share of problems.

But then again, this also happens with the other examples on  that OP thread.

As I explained, it’s because of what it represents for us as a people.  We can only admire Wakanda if it’s a perfect nation with no flaws?

You bothered asking the 50+ African states with how they feel to be part of this "us" that you are representing?

Disingenuous racist line of questioning. “Oh no a black person thinks of all black people as one people suffering under the boot of white supremacy. The horror!”

Swoosh.

Americans representing everyone, again.  :lol

https://m.channel24.co.za/Movies/News/black-panther-now-the-all-time-top-grossing-film-in-south-africa-20180320

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/22/587840019/black-panther-sells-out-african-theaters

https://www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/World/Africa/2018/0223/As-Black-Panther-hits-screens-in-Africa-the-hero-is-all-of-us

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2018/02/21/african-audiences-having-emotional-response-black-panther-humanised/amp/

https://www.theroot.com/audiences-across-africa-hail-black-panther-for-humanizi-1823155921/amp

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a8d8bdee4b03414379c2b8a/amp

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/18/opinions/black-panther-minorities-opinion-obeidallah/index.html

Pan-African unity is one of the defining themes of the film and your racist attempt to throw flames at that is noted.

People also dress up as Avengers in Russia and it sells pretty well there. Christ, to have tunnel vision like you do is amazing. The arrogance it takes to speak for countries, probably a whole different continent, where you have never been in is hilarious.

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« Reply #3892 on: March 20, 2018, 06:36:27 PM »
If your idea of Wakanda is that which would exist without european colonialism happening then, yes, Wakanda isn't real.

Not LITERALLY Wakanda, but a technological prosperous rich Body of black people free from white supremacy. Not just Africa. That is a symbol that matters to black people all over the world.

No one thinks without white supremacy we would have hovercars and nanomachine catsuits.
You're delusional.

If this was the case don't you think at least ONE nation in Africa would have bounced back by now? fucking hell Germany was destroyed twice, Japan got nuked, and look at them now lol

Why do you think African people all over the world are doing so poorly, Assimilate?

Because African kings sold their own people into slavery to Europeans instead of telling them to fuck off?
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« Reply #3893 on: March 20, 2018, 06:39:39 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wakanda-isnt-real.30884/

"It's racism and a dash of colonialism. Wakanda's existence, unlike Hogwarts or Middle-Earth, asks the benefactors of colonialism to acknowledge what has been sacrificed or destroyed to make their lives possible."

What’s wrong with that statement? Completely accurate.

Is not inaccurate but the movie also paints Wakanda to be in the wrong in ignoring the rest of the world.

Okay? Not sure how that’s relevant.

That poster was talking about what Wakanda symbolically represents in a western context

Yeah, but is not the whole western perspective given that Wakanda is a western entertainment creation. The film portrays Wakanda as  highly idealistic but still flawed society, so is weird seeing people overly enthusiastic of a fictional country that still has its fair share of problems.

But then again, this also happens with the other examples on  that OP thread.

As I explained, it’s because of what it represents for us as a people.  We can only admire Wakanda if it’s a perfect nation with no flaws?

You bothered asking the 50+ African states with how they feel to be part of this "us" that you are representing?

Disingenuous racist line of questioning. “Oh no a black person thinks of all black people as one people suffering under the boot of white supremacy. The horror!”

Swoosh.

Americans representing everyone, again.  :lol

https://m.channel24.co.za/Movies/News/black-panther-now-the-all-time-top-grossing-film-in-south-africa-20180320

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/22/587840019/black-panther-sells-out-african-theaters

https://www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/World/Africa/2018/0223/As-Black-Panther-hits-screens-in-Africa-the-hero-is-all-of-us

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2018/02/21/african-audiences-having-emotional-response-black-panther-humanised/amp/

https://www.theroot.com/audiences-across-africa-hail-black-panther-for-humanizi-1823155921/amp

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a8d8bdee4b03414379c2b8a/amp

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/18/opinions/black-panther-minorities-opinion-obeidallah/index.html

Pan-African unity is one of the defining themes of the film and your racist attempt to throw flames at that is noted.

People also dress up as Avengers in Russia and it sells pretty well there. Christ, to have tunnel vision like you do is amazing. The arrogance it takes to speak for countries, probably a whole different continent, where you have never been in is hilarious.

Do you even read the links?

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« Reply #3894 on: March 20, 2018, 06:40:21 PM »
The argument really is that Africa would have needed a competent dictator to rise up and unite tribes and create an improved state. It probably would be a bloody enterprise at first with those that did not want to go along and remain "wakanda" would have been subjugated or wiped out.

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« Reply #3895 on: March 20, 2018, 06:41:20 PM »
If your idea of Wakanda is that which would exist without european colonialism happening then, yes, Wakanda isn't real.

Not LITERALLY Wakanda, but a technological prosperous rich Body of black people free from white supremacy. Not just Africa. That is a symbol that matters to black people all over the world.

No one thinks without white supremacy we would have hovercars and nanomachine catsuits.
You're delusional.

If this was the case don't you think at least ONE nation in Africa would have bounced back by now? fucking hell Germany was destroyed twice, Japan got nuked, and look at them now lol

Ehh, I get what you're saying but the US helped rebuild both of those countries after the war.

Um, aren't we trying to help rebuild fucking Iraq? how's that going? We try to help a lot of people but you can't force people to want to rebuild for a better future.
If your idea of Wakanda is that which would exist without european colonialism happening then, yes, Wakanda isn't real.

Not LITERALLY Wakanda, but a technological prosperous rich Body of black people free from white supremacy. Not just Africa. That is a symbol that matters to black people all over the world.

No one thinks without white supremacy we would have hovercars and nanomachine catsuits.
You're delusional.

If this was the case don't you think at least ONE nation in Africa would have bounced back by now? fucking hell Germany was destroyed twice, Japan got nuked, and look at them now lol

Why do you think African people all over the world are doing so poorly, Assimilate?

You need to stop thinking like this it will never amount to anything. Racism is part of every single culture, of every single people. There's racism towards certain colors of black people within a group of black people, you know this.

Pretending that "africans" haven't built a wakanda because of white supremacy is ridiculous and in fact if this is actually acknowledged as true then you're kinda opening yourself up to eugenics aren't you? White people are that far superior to which they can keep down an entire group of people for centuries.

Whites can go to war with other whites and almost destroy the planet but an entire race of black people can't muster up a decent fight back?

is that what you really wanna say cream?  :flabbypd

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« Reply #3896 on: March 20, 2018, 06:43:04 PM »

Do you even read the links?

Yeah, and? Africans liked a movie that portrayed Africans. Where do you fit in there?

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« Reply #3897 on: March 20, 2018, 06:44:28 PM »
If your idea of Wakanda is that which would exist without european colonialism happening then, yes, Wakanda isn't real.

Not LITERALLY Wakanda, but a technological prosperous rich Body of black people free from white supremacy. Not just Africa. That is a symbol that matters to black people all over the world.

No one thinks without white supremacy we would have hovercars and nanomachine catsuits.
You're delusional.

If this was the case don't you think at least ONE nation in Africa would have bounced back by now? fucking hell Germany was destroyed twice, Japan got nuked, and look at them now lol

Ehh, I get what you're saying but the US helped rebuild both of those countries after the war.

Um, aren't we trying to help rebuild fucking Iraq? how's that going? We try to help a lot of people but you can't force people to want to rebuild for a better future.
If your idea of Wakanda is that which would exist without european colonialism happening then, yes, Wakanda isn't real.

Not LITERALLY Wakanda, but a technological prosperous rich Body of black people free from white supremacy. Not just Africa. That is a symbol that matters to black people all over the world.

No one thinks without white supremacy we would have hovercars and nanomachine catsuits.
You're delusional.

If this was the case don't you think at least ONE nation in Africa would have bounced back by now? fucking hell Germany was destroyed twice, Japan got nuked, and look at them now lol

Why do you think African people all over the world are doing so poorly, Assimilate?

You need to stop thinking like this it will never amount to anything. Racism is part of every single culture, of every single people. There's racism towards certain colors of black people within a group of black people, you know this.

Pretending that "africans" haven't built a wakanda because of white supremacy is ridiculous and in fact if this is actually acknowledged as true then you're kinda opening yourself up to eugenics aren't you? White people are that far superior to which they can keep down an entire group of people for centuries.

Whites can go to war with other whites and almost destroy the planet but an entire race of black people can't muster up a decent fight back?

is that what you really wanna say cream?  :flabbypd

 Could you answer my question first? Why are black people all over the world doing so poorly

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« Reply #3898 on: March 20, 2018, 06:46:21 PM »
Do any bands these days copy Type O Negative's style?

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« Reply #3899 on: March 20, 2018, 06:46:55 PM »
The argument really is that Africa would have needed a competent dictator to rise up and unite tribes and create an improved state. It probably would be a bloody enterprise at first with those that did not want to go along and remain "wakanda" would have been subjugated or wiped out.

So, just like America? Yet I’m willing to bet you guys don’t pay the same amount of lip service criticizing people proud of and in love with America as you do shitting on a group of marginalized people drawing hope from an idealized nation of their own that doesn’t exist.