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[Nintex]

This board in general is much nicer to women and not racist for starters. 

[benjipwns]

For a forum that was spun off a site because of the owner of that site doing misogynistic bullshit and sexual harassment, it's pathetic that I feel less safe here than I did at the other place before it imploded.

The community has always been antagonistic to progressive social concerns. It's always been a struggle, and frankly i'm not sure it's getting any better.

unlike here where i mostly get livid or just peace out after seeing the same old centrist mindsets and white male defensiveness.

I'd be all for a 100% women moderation/administration team, I think that would make the forum better and send a positive signal to the gaming community worldwide.

oh, this is going to turn out great

[agrajag]

Adding on to this, a ton of people in the PonyEra and MagicEra Discords no longer post on Era precisely because they find EtcetEra and Gaming unwelcoming.

quincognito (formerly charlequin) is particularly harsh on Era's lax moderation on the MagicEra Discord.

okay, we've peaked

Haha, that guy sucked. He was probably responsible for half my bans on GAF

[Nintex]

How do you feel 'not safe' on a message board.

How the fuck does that happen. 

[james]

This board in general is much nicer to women and not racist for starters. 

We love females here

 

[benjipwns]

How do you feel 'not safe' on a message board.

How the fuck does that happen. 

don't argue, LISTEN

[Raist]

I'd be all for a 100% women moderation/administration team, I think that would make the forum better and send a positive signal to the gaming community worldwide.

LOOK AT ME I'M A FEMINIST

[Uncle]

No, stricter moderation is NOT "literally all that can be done". What kind of attitude is that? Threads like these, people being consistent with informing others about problematic behavior since many are genuinely clueless about the microaggressions they commit and generally encouraging more debates around this issue is a huge part of what needs to be done, especially in terms of women's issues and toxic masculinity.

Don't rely on fucking moderators to do your job for you, you are literally the community. Shape it the way you think it should be.

In fact, I would argue that one of the BIGGEST problems in terms of Era not being particularly progressive beyond the basic shit everyone is expected to understand by this point stems from people (usually men) simply REFUSING to accept any form of collective blame. The same people are always quick to yell "FUCKING MONSTER!" in the latest #metoo thread and are then in the next thread literally saying "oh but I'm one of the good ones so please don't give me that shit about me being part of the problem". If you've ever said anything even remotely close to that, you ARE the problem.

I know the US is working really hard to convince everyone that we are all individuals and that no one shares any form of collective responsibility but that is literally a bullshit lie meant to drive people apart and dismantle unity within political movements. Don't fall for it and grow the fuck up. Society is based on the empathetic interplay between people, not on idiots going ME ME ME ME ME constantly. Fucking hell.

mmmm

Don't rely on fucking moderators to do your job for you, you are literally the community. Shape it the way you think it should be.

Wait are they honestly making the argument that we need to sit down and talk to racists in the hopes of effecting change, rather than simply banning them

[benjipwns]

this is going to totally get locked with "please PM the Mod Captains with your concerns"

[agrajag]

How do you feel 'not safe' on a message board.

How the fuck does that happen. 

https://twitter.com/tylerthecreator/status/285670822264307712?lang=en

[james]

this is going to totally get locked with "please PM the Mod Captains with your concerns"

If I was Cerium, id lock the thread, let it slip to page 3, and then perm ban every person who called out the mod team for insubordination / attempted treason.

[Uncle]

I'd be all for a 100% women moderation/administration team, I think that would make the forum better and send a positive signal to the gaming community worldwide.

LOOK AT ME I'M A FEMINIST

Even better if they were all transwomen

[benjipwns]

cerium must have an alt he posts with, the cerium account is 415 posts of housekeeping matters

[benjipwns]

A lot of people claim to be progressive but they are more angry libertarians but they themselves don’t know this

like Glenn Greenwald!

[Raist]

Again, because women actively AVOID ALL SOCIALIZAION!

I'm gonna be iron

Like a lion

In socializaion~

[Nintex]

What if I told them the truth.

That I had exchanged PM's with Russian trolls confirming that Evilore's progressive safe haven was destroyed by Russia in order to destroy the grass roots support of Hillary Clinton.

And what if I deleted those PMs to spare them the pain of learning the truth.

[benjipwns]

I mean, if the reply boils down to a dumb "notallmen," then sure, but would you elaborate on your "listen to women" point in your earlier post? When it comes to women's issues, do you think that there should be no discussion from men unless it is acknowledgement or agreement to the points or arguments made by women? I'm genuinely trying to understand what your ideal discussion would be and what kind of responses should be considered appropriate.

evidence the short bans aren't working, the moderation is garbage confirmed

[benjipwns]

This may sound weird but the first week or two of resetera was so amazing. Every thread was filled with such pleasant, mature discussion. Without actual data, it just FELT good. I really thought we had cut the wheat from the chaff and the future was looking bright! But then we opened the sign up floodgates

[BisMarckie]

It would be the easiest thing to find out as a moderator. Click on his profile and look at accounts that have also used that IP. The one that most frequently matches will be at the top.

That's amateur level alt use though. Gotta use TOR for trolling.

Cerium only with little over 400 posts? Seems a little suspect to me. Maybe he is a Russian junior troll after all?

[Uncle]

Era mods reading that thread

[Bore Expert]

Charlequin a brony


 

[stufte]

I'd be all for a 100% women moderation/administration team, I think that would make the forum better and send a positive signal to the gaming community worldwide.

LOOK AT ME I'M A FEMINIST

Even better if they were all transwomen

I nominate Blaire White.

[benjipwns]

I guess because it was a forum reset all the trash that was banned from the old forums were able to come here and start a new. Some people got slicker and are more refined with their posting, so as to not get banned. Most of them will mess up over time.

eventually you run out of slickness

[benjipwns]

The moderation team has been terrible in every thread related to sexism/racism/homophobia/transphobia, in some cases some threads look really indistinguishable from KiA. ResetERA is full of white male brogressives, and the mods have given them way too much leeway, while simultaneously banning/warning any posts that call them out. The amount of sexism and racism that is casually allowed in here is insane, oftentimes even Reddit threads on the same subject look better than the threads in here.

At this point, I don't give a shit, I'm gonna call out the disgusting comments that I see, and if the mods think I'm being too hostile, they can ban me, I barely feel like I'm in a progressive community anymore.

this is great this is great this is great

[VomKriege]

Indistinguishable from KiA

Era is on its way to implode into yet another splinter

[james]

cerium must have an alt he posts with, the cerium account is 415 posts of housekeeping matters

It would be the easiest thing to find out as a moderator. Click on his profile and look at accounts that have also used that IP. The one that most frequently matches will be at the top.

Question: I posted from a university. Don't we all have the same IP?

[benjipwns]

I think it's probably better to bring up how Gaming also defended Vávra when he not only said significantly worse things than Jessica, but was an actual vocal supporter of Gamer Gate. On that note discussion of Vávra's politics on Kingdom Come was constantly shut down by people saying "Well, how would you know, you haven't played the game!" When you were using experiences posters or reviews had and explaining how they were problematic.

[james]

Era's problem is that it has a broken base.

There are too many dissident opinions, some misinformed, some malicious.

Im dying

[benjipwns]

I like what the term 'different opinion' and 'different viewpoints' is being used to mask in here.

[stufte]

I love the incessant absolutism on REEE.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/10741875/

Listen to women.

Seriously, that's it.

REEEE:

[james]

Yup!

Then how did Neogaf find my alt and ban me?

Theres 50,000 students + 15k staff here!

[nudemacusers]

Resetera continues to eat itself... perhaps the administration now realizes the userbase they have cultivated is the problem?

[benjipwns]

Era has most of the influence GAF had when it collapsed, which is more than Reddit or 4chan.

[VomKriege]

Send the worldwide signal !

spoiler (click to show/hide)

S.O.S

[close]

[james]

Probably only a few of those students had NeoGAF accounts and you probably had exactly the same posting style. Cyan once described his method for deciding whether or not an account was an alt, although I don't remember the specifics but it involved checking if you and the other account visited the same threads and had the same writing style.

Well obviously Im going to visit the same threads and use the same posting style.

Seems like Cyan needed to get a real job.

[nudemacusers]

I also find it amazing that the forum feature of hiding ones profile from a post search, meant to curb harassment from would be trolls and bad actors, is now a indicator that you’re a bad faith poster in the eyes of many

[benjipwns]

I like what the term 'different opinion' and 'different viewpoints' is being used to mask in here.

Dog whistles. Dog whistles as far as the eye can see.

[agrajag]

Probably only a few of those students had NeoGAF accounts and you probably had exactly the same posting style. Cyan once described his method for deciding whether or not an account was an alt, although I don't remember the specifics but it involved checking if you and the other account visited the same threads and had the same writing style.

imagine spending that much time being a volunteer internet detective

[benjipwns]

There's degrees to everything, what some people would considered sexist or racist might be totally normal to a big percentage of the rest of the populace. Have to be able to discuss the nuances and debate where the lines should be drawn.

Why? That seems counter productive and allows for positions to seem valid becaude there are "debates".

let's just get to NeoERA already, i can almost feel the paradise

[benjipwns]

Your response is completely oxymoronic. If it is indeed a broad social factor it literally comes down to accepting collective moral blame. What point is there in trying to sugarcoat it? If you have a problem with my approach to dealing with people who refuse to get it, that's perfectly fine. I don't care. If men feel offended by me aggressively judging us for our continued exertion of oppression, GOOD. We all deserve that, at the very least. I don't think any of us deserve respect or being treated with kids' gloves over misogynistic behavior. We're all grown fucking men who ought to have known better decades ago. No excuses at this point.

If you think a civil approach is better, good for you. Do that. I'll do my thing in the meantime because I know there are people out there who respond better to being verbally beaten over the head, believe it or not. Not everyone enjoys politeness in debates.

Next time you quote me btw, don't replace my words with a period. It's rude.

oh my god

[james]

Cyan had and has a real job, he just also devoted a lot of time to NeoGAF because he enjoyed it. Many of the GAF mods were like this, which is why they were good.

Pretty sure he permed me because I posted in the MLS thread along with 5 other posters (including my alt).

[ToxicAdam]

ERA is just an elaborate historical re-enactment of the Puritan movement in England. Eventually it's going to all dissolve into different groups that consider themselves on "the right side of history" and the purest in thought of them all.

I'm with the Calvinists, btw.

[benjipwns]

It is completely and utterly mind-blowing that users on this forum can be seen actively participating in doxxing, stalking, and harassment of ResetERA users on sites like Voat, Kiwifarms, and the Bore, and if we call these people out on their conduct, we get banned for it. The idea that an abuse victim gets banned for calling out their abuser is so comically stupid that I have to wonder who came up with it. Evilore could come register on this forum and it would literally be a bannable offense to point out his conduct that led to the formation of the site in the first place.

yaaaaaay we made the thread

[james]

It is completely and utterly mind-blowing that users on this forum can be seen actively participating in doxxing, stalking, and harassment of ResetERA users on sites like Voat, Kiwifarms, and the Bore, and if we call these people out on their conduct, we get banned for it. The idea that an abuse victim gets banned for calling out their abuser is so comically stupid that I have to wonder who came up with it. Evilore could come register on this forum and it would literally be a bannable offense to point out his conduct that led to the formation of the site in the first place.

 

[agrajag]

he's right though, The Bore is a haven for infamous transphobes like marrec

[Momo]

Probably only a few of those students had NeoGAF accounts and you probably had exactly the same posting style. Cyan once described his method for deciding whether or not an account was an alt, although I don't remember the specifics but it involved checking if you and the other account visited the same threads and had the same writing style.

dunno why the morons would do this when there is literally a plugin that lets you know if someone is logging in as multiple users from the same browser.

[benjipwns]

Late to the thread... Persephone , thank you for bringing attention to these things.
Men, just shut up and listen. Okay?

thank you for saying it

[BisMarckie]

From what I am reading so far, the only hate site seems to be ResetERA

[EightBitNate]

It is completely and utterly mind-blowing that users on this forum can be seen actively participating in doxxing, stalking, and harassment of ResetERA users on sites like Voat, Kiwifarms, and the Bore, and if we call these people out on their conduct, we get banned for it. The idea that an abuse victim gets banned for calling out their abuser is so comically stupid that I have to wonder who came up with it. Evilore could come register on this forum and it would literally be a bannable offense to point out his conduct that led to the formation of the site in the first place.

 

Don’t blame the sins of Benji on all of us.

[james]

Probably only a few of those students had NeoGAF accounts and you probably had exactly the same posting style. Cyan once described his method for deciding whether or not an account was an alt, although I don't remember the specifics but it involved checking if you and the other account visited the same threads and had the same writing style.

dunno why the morons would do this when there is literally a plugin that lets you know if someone is logging in as multiple users from the same browser.

Nah I was too slick for that. Firefox for account A, Chrome for account B.

Aint no one got time for logging in and out

[benjipwns]

Too many people drop into threads, sound their dog whistle, and when questioned they ignore and slink off waiting for the next opportunity.

There should be a crack down on dropping a take with certain language (alt-right style buzzwords as Spirit mentions above) and not coming back to respond to posts that question it.

And half the time these posts don't even get dog pilled, they get a couple of users calling them out and asking for receipts and the user ghosts the thread.

Should be bannable, imo.

And Era is full of little microaggressions like this. As such I think moderations needs to ramp up heavily against any kind of post with a bigoted tone, and in the instances mentioned above force the user in question to either offer recipes or take the ban.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

OFFER RECIPES OR TAKE THE BAN

[BisMarckie]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/10742687

I know this because I was probably the most active participant.

[Momo]

Probably only a few of those students had NeoGAF accounts and you probably had exactly the same posting style. Cyan once described his method for deciding whether or not an account was an alt, although I don't remember the specifics but it involved checking if you and the other account visited the same threads and had the same writing style.

dunno why the morons would do this when there is literally a plugin that lets you know if someone is logging in as multiple users from the same browser.

Nah I was too slick for that. Firefox for account A, Chrome for account B.

Aint no one got time for logging in and out

tbh i would have banned you in a couple of minutes with no detective work if you did this.

[HaughtyFrank]

How can Persephone bitch about how there's no discourse about sexualization in videogames when there's a fucking 400 page thread on gaming that's solely focused on that. She fucking started that thread.

[benjipwns]

I have an idea. I don’t know if it’s feasible, but would it make sense to make a subforum that is intended as a safe space that has heavier moderation and zero tolerance for anything questionable, and then a more generalized forum side that is more open to debate and different lines of thinking?

problem solved forever, wrap it up people

[james]

Probably only a few of those students had NeoGAF accounts and you probably had exactly the same posting style. Cyan once described his method for deciding whether or not an account was an alt, although I don't remember the specifics but it involved checking if you and the other account visited the same threads and had the same writing style.

dunno why the morons would do this when there is literally a plugin that lets you know if someone is logging in as multiple users from the same browser.

Nah I was too slick for that. Firefox for account A, Chrome for account B.

Aint no one got time for logging in and out

tbh i would have banned you in a couple of minutes with no detective work if you did this.

Took em 4 months. It was the MLS thread that got me because nobody likes MLS so two people liking the same team was too much of a coincidence

[venereology]

How do you feel 'not safe' on a message board.

How the fuck does that happen. 

https://twitter.com/tylerthecreator/status/285670822264307712

[benjipwns]

Which is why there's like 3 places or more that actively track this forum and troll it and harass posters in hopes of pushing the forum to the right.

SLAY QUEEN

[Momo]

I guess because it was a forum reset all the trash that was banned from the old forums were able to come here and start a new. Some people got slicker and are more refined with their posting, so as to not get banned. Most of them will mess up over time.

eventually you run out of slickness

my stand, GSP, has infinite slickness

[Bravotyler]

How can Persephone bitch about how there's no discourse about sexualization in videogames when there's a fucking 400 page thread on gaming that's solely focused on that. She fucking started that thread.

Wrongthinkers are allowed to post in that thread and the forum Hazmat team only gives them week long bans which gives a very problematic impression to the thousands of developers that get feedback from Resetera.