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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #40980 on: November 03, 2018, 02:36:20 PM »
Hopefully all those 'journalists' get out of the industry and start working behind the counter in super markets instead.

With that said. Blizzard pulled an EA-level dumb reveal stunt that will certainly cost someone at marketing their job.  :doge
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #40981 on: November 03, 2018, 03:18:10 PM »
Bobberts is a sexual assaulter? Yikes

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #40982 on: November 03, 2018, 03:23:29 PM »
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I don't know about you but in school we had to do out-loud reading sessions where we all took turns reading a page from huck finn.

Anytime time n****r came up I replaced it with something else; "good buddy"

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #40983 on: November 03, 2018, 03:32:45 PM »
Journalist reactions to the diablo backlash

https://i.imgur.com/nx4VYf0.jpg

https://www.resetera.com/posts/14555056/

 :gamergate

I don't believe it's the gaming industry to defend a company's decisions. Come on, if this was politics, which a lot of these people who work in the industry say they want to emulate and claim gaming decisions are, then they would viewed skeptically by the public at large at serving corporate interests.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #40984 on: November 03, 2018, 03:35:44 PM »
Nah, I disagree with you all on this Diablo business. Getting outraged over a product announcement because you think it's lame is about as childish as it gets. An announcement of a game you don't like shouldn't warrant anything more than indifference in adults. I thought the same thing when babies cried over Federation Force's announcement. I think games journalists are usually lunatics, but on this I agree with them. Even if you somehow think the outrage is justified (it's not), it's indisputable that the guy was being a dick by asking that question in the mic. You may like that he was being a dick, but he was definitely being a dick. He was clearly trying to be a dick.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #40985 on: November 03, 2018, 03:41:03 PM »
And re: Bobberts, you guys (and I) keep making fun of RE for having double standards for people they think "deserve" it. If you're cheering for the situation Bobby's in, whether he's guilty or innocent, you're falling into the same trap RE does.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #40986 on: November 03, 2018, 03:50:56 PM »
Nah, I disagree with you all on this Diablo business. Getting outraged over a product announcement because you think it's lame is about as childish as it gets. An announcement of a game you don't like shouldn't warrant anything more than indifference in adults. I thought the same thing when babies cried over Federation Force's announcement. I think games journalists are usually lunatics, but on this I agree with them. Even if you somehow think the outrage is justified (it's not), it's indisputable that the guy was being a dick by asking that question in the mic. You may like that he was being a dick, but he was definitely being a dick. He was clearly trying to be a dick.

or maybe people booing and pressing a dislike button on a video and shitposting about it are not 'outraged'

you're falling into the same trap RE does.

says the guy who is claiming that any sort of dissatisfaction with a consumer product is an 'outrage'


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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #40988 on: November 03, 2018, 04:04:37 PM »
The problem Pogi is that the gaming industry lives off on irrational hype and encourages it but at the same time is very quick to take their ball and go home as soon as things don't go the way they want to. It makes no sense to give corporate entities a gentleman conduct when they themselves don't play by those rules. Harrassment is deplorable but being cheeky and shitting on them is fair game as far as im concerned.

The usually used "think of the developers" angle is also pretty fucked up to dismiss critique. Aside from the above mentioned conduct by the industry, those very same companies continuesly push towards more predatory monetization models and optimisation in terms of profit. Seems very disingenuous to make those arguments when those "developers" themselves are part of a corporate machine that has no qualms to pursue profit over moral integrity.
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #40989 on: November 03, 2018, 04:06:52 PM »
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I don't know about you but in school we had to do out-loud reading sessions where we all took turns reading a page from huck finn.

Anytime time n****r came up I replaced it with something else; "good buddy"

 :doge


hahahhaah jesus christ

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #40990 on: November 03, 2018, 04:08:16 PM »
I'm going to laugh at manbabies butthurt that blizzard released a mobile version of diablo just like I laughed at the manbabies who were crying about diablo 3 looking like a cartoon and using photoshop to grimdark its early screenshots

edit:
and the console manbabies crying about how terrible mobile controls are and that diablo 'should' be designed around a controller can fuck right off

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #40991 on: November 03, 2018, 04:10:43 PM »
Nah, I disagree with you all on this Diablo business. Getting outraged over a product announcement because you think it's lame is about as childish as it gets. An announcement of a game you don't like shouldn't warrant anything more than indifference in adults. I thought the same thing when babies cried over Federation Force's announcement. I think games journalists are usually lunatics, but on this I agree with them. Even if you somehow think the outrage is justified (it's not), it's indisputable that the guy was being a dick by asking that question in the mic. You may like that he was being a dick, but he was definitely being a dick. He was clearly trying to be a dick.

Nah, the dude paid to go to blizzcon and is clearly passionate about blizzard products - they want him to care and they don't mind that passion when he likes what he sees, so they're gonna have to put up with the shit he flings when he don't like what he sees. Presumably he paid 200 buckaroos for those tickets, and that does give him a lot of leeway when it comes to being a bit of a dick.

And to see those "gaming journalists" stan for a multibillion corporation and even suggest that he be thrown out of the event is as pathetic as it gets. Do these people have no shame at all? (rethorical question, of course they don't)


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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #40992 on: November 03, 2018, 04:26:05 PM »
Remember when people made fun of Fortnite for mobile?

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #40993 on: November 03, 2018, 04:26:28 PM »
The problem Pogi is that the gaming industry lives off on irrational hype and encourages it but at the same time is very quick to take their ball and go home as soon as things don't go the way they want to. It makes no sense to give corporate entities a gentleman conduct when they themselves don't play by those rules. Harrassment is deplorable but being cheeky and shitting on them is fair game as far as im concerned.

The usually used "think of the developers" angle is also pretty fucked up to dismiss critique. Aside from the above mentioned conduct by the industry, those very same companies continuesly push towards more predatory monetization models and optimisation in terms of profit. Seems very disingenuous to make those arguments when those "developers" themselves are part of a corporate machine that has no qualms to pursue profit over moral integrity.

Re: your last point, I'm on board with an affirmative decrying of predatory monetization. I haven't been following the Diablo thing too closely, but my understanding is that most people are mad because they wanted a real Diablo game, and not a mobile game. Am I mistaken, and that the core complaints are with the monetization? Serious question.

Re: your first paragraph, there's a difference between an adult getting excited about a product they'll eventually get to play, and an adult getting mad about a product they'll never play. I agree hype cycles can go overboard, but that doesn't change the fact that adults crying over a product they'll never play is childish.

And given the below, I should clarify that there's a difference between hitting a "dislike" button to show your disinterest, and perusing twitter, looking for game journalists to be mad at because they called a dick move a dick move. I don't think that everyone disappointed and downvoting a trailer or poking fun is "outrage." I think people going on and on and on about it and compiling twitter images are the people "outraged."

Nah, I disagree with you all on this Diablo business. Getting outraged over a product announcement because you think it's lame is about as childish as it gets. An announcement of a game you don't like shouldn't warrant anything more than indifference in adults. I thought the same thing when babies cried over Federation Force's announcement. I think games journalists are usually lunatics, but on this I agree with them. Even if you somehow think the outrage is justified (it's not), it's indisputable that the guy was being a dick by asking that question in the mic. You may like that he was being a dick, but he was definitely being a dick. He was clearly trying to be a dick.

or maybe people booing and pressing a dislike button on a video and shitposting about it are not 'outraged'

you're falling into the same trap RE does.

says the guy who is claiming that any sort of dissatisfaction with a consumer product is an 'outrage'

Why are Nintendo fans so often terrible at either reading comprehension or logic?

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #40994 on: November 03, 2018, 04:28:26 PM »
educate yourself on the great culture wars of videogame journalism 2014-2016 before spouting any more of your political ignorance, please.

Putting an end date on GG is yikes, shitlord.
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #40995 on: November 03, 2018, 04:30:37 PM »
Presumably he paid 200 buckaroos for those tickets, and that does give him a lot of leeway when it comes to being a bit of a dick.

Geez, really? That's a good point, then. That guy being a dick does make more sense in that case. Still a dick move, but a bit more understandable than I was assuming.

Still think the online outrage (see what I mean by "outrage" above) is childish, though.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #40997 on: November 03, 2018, 04:39:22 PM »
If you wanna know what I mean by "outrage," I don't just mean downvotes, or upvoting disappointment. I mean the sentiment expressed in this highly upvoted reddit post:



No, they didn't spit in your face. They made a game you don't want. Grow up if you feel disprespected by a game announcement.

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« Reply #40998 on: November 03, 2018, 04:40:26 PM »
I will point and laugh at Bobby as much as I want, thank you very much.

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« Reply #40999 on: November 03, 2018, 04:52:01 PM »
I will point and laugh at Bobby as much as I want, thank you very much.

Yeah, but the only thing shittier than your soul is your toilet.

My toilet is spotleless, you dumb motherfucker.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41000 on: November 03, 2018, 04:53:47 PM »
I'll take fans being pissed off over more fanboying and acting as if multibillion dollar companies, that want to increasingly rip consumers off, are your friends.

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« Reply #41001 on: November 03, 2018, 04:56:23 PM »
Yeah it's pretty shitty;  I asked earlier (and got no answer) if Bobby was one of the "believe women always instantly" types but got no answer.

Even if he is/was it's still really shitty behavior to relish in someone being falsley accused.   Like point out the hypocricy and use it to further the idea that instant court of opinion "convictions" are wrong.

(not that "suffering is delicious" from JayDubya is surprising from a guy who advocates for executing all people with a good standing Resetera account, that guy is seriously fucked)

Seeing how my joy in schaudenfraude expressed through a few lines on a spinoff board with 20 members does not affect him in the slightest, I fail to see your point. You and Pogi and Jack can fuck off with your moral grandstanding.  :)

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41002 on: November 03, 2018, 05:00:45 PM »
I mean, if he's being falsely accused, that's obviously shit, I don't think anyone would argue with that.

At the same time, considering the shit he pulled, like going on multiple twitter rage rants claiming that people here were stalking and harassing him... karma is a bitch, I guess.

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« Reply #41003 on: November 03, 2018, 05:01:28 PM »
I'll take fans being pissed off over more fanboying and acting as if multibillion dollar companies, that want to increasingly rip consumers off, are your friends.
It doesn't have to be one or the other. You can recognize companies as money making machines without being a baby about not wanting a game they announce.

In fact, I'd say not only are they not mutually exclusive, one misunderstanding breeds the other. The only way you can feel as if a company "spat in your face" by announcing a game is if you thought they were your friend and so feel betrayed.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41004 on: November 03, 2018, 05:02:12 PM »
Bobberts has been kind of pretentious and annoying, but I don't see what the guy has done to deserve having people relish in his suffering if he's been falsely accused here. Seems kind of shitty.

I relish it just because every false/questionable allegation devalues the asinine "court of public opinion" and also makes the "guilty" party think twice about this shit in the future

Look at Mr. Lore who ran the woke asylum until it bit him in the ass

I'm not saying I want serious allegations to not be believed or women to not be believed, I'm saying I want people to fucking wait for both sides of the story and/or leave it to the police
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41005 on: November 03, 2018, 05:07:50 PM »
I definitely feel like the fan reaction diablo is childish and dumb but also don’t really feel any sympathy for Blizzard.

Like it’s a fucking company that’s making a product that people don’t like. I’m having a really hard time getting worked up over it.

I have sympathy for Bobby though. Not because I like him, or think he’s cool. It’s like finding out that the goatse  guy is being harassed. He has brought me so much joy that I can’t help but feel sorry for him.

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« Reply #41006 on: November 03, 2018, 05:08:02 PM »
I'll take fans being pissed off over more fanboying and acting as if multibillion dollar companies, that want to increasingly rip consumers off, are your friends.
It doesn't have to be one or the other. You can recognize companies as money making machines without being a baby about not wanting a game they announce.

In fact, I'd say not only are they not mutually exclusive, one misunderstanding breeds the other. The only way you can feel as if a company "spat in your face" by announcing a game is if you thought they were your friend and so feel betrayed.

Apart from embarrassing reddit posts, I don't see what the problem is.

company: buy this
consumers: lol try again or fuck off

Best case, they make better games. Worst case... uh, Bobby Kotick cries a tear? Probably not :trumps

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« Reply #41007 on: November 03, 2018, 05:08:34 PM »
Yeah it's pretty shitty;  I asked earlier (and got no answer) if Bobby was one of the "believe women always instantly" types but got no answer.

you got no answer but got no answer because you didn't read 3 posts later/the top of the page or you revealed who is on your ignore list

The delicious irony of this, is even if Bobby was falsely accused he was of the type to argue that false accusations never happen. Only to the Bobbo Robbo.
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« Reply #41008 on: November 03, 2018, 05:14:55 PM »
Seeing how my joy in schaudenfraude expressed through a few lines on a spinoff board with 20 members does not affect him in the slightest, I fail to see your point. You and Pogi and Jack can fuck off with your moral grandstanding.  :)

Everything you dislike Bobby over is "stuff that doesn't affect anyone in the slightest" (him typing words online that annoy you.)   It's why the schaudenfraude is kind of gross because we aren't talking about petty forum/twitter BS;  or at least we might not be since that kind of accusation can affect someone a lot.

Not trying to moral grandstand you it's just my opinion;  I also don't relish people losing their jobs and livelihood and whatnot like Resetera does everytime they get the pitchforks out over random stuff.

If I was "like ERA" like Pogi claims we are being, then I would be joining some internet campaign to draw and quarter Bobby for committing some unverified crime. Seeing neither I or anyone else here did that, or condemn him, that point goes out the window.

I don't enjoy people getting fired over internet outrage either, whether it's James Gunn or some conservative lady tweeting something ignorant on an airplane. However, as long as I am not actively contributing to any kind of outrage campaigns, such as Bobby approved of, I am not going to lose any sleep over him falsely or truthfully being accused of bad behavior, something he himself has done, hence the irony.
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41009 on: November 03, 2018, 05:15:00 PM »
Ratateeta admins not listening to the experiences of minorities :wag

https://www.resetera.com/posts/14541096/

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41010 on: November 03, 2018, 05:15:33 PM »
Apart from embarrassing reddit posts, I don't see what the problem is.

company: buy this
consumers: lol try again or fuck off

Best case, they make better games. Worst case... uh, Bobby Kotick cries a tear? Probably not :trumps
Like I said multiple times, people just saying "no" aren't the ones being babies, and aren't the ones being called babies. I just gave an example of people being babies, and your response is, "Besides the people you showed being babies, no one is being a baby." Yeah, I know. I think we're on the same page there.

Anyway, I've given this more mindshare and time than it deserves already.

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« Reply #41011 on: November 03, 2018, 05:16:00 PM »
I'll take fans being pissed off over more fanboying and acting as if multibillion dollar companies, that want to increasingly rip consumers off, are your friends.
It doesn't have to be one or the other. You can recognize companies as money making machines without being a baby about not wanting a game they announce.

In fact, I'd say not only are they not mutually exclusive, one misunderstanding breeds the other. The only way you can feel as if a company "spat in your face" by announcing a game is if you thought they were your friend and so feel betrayed.

Apart from embarrassing reddit posts, I don't see what the problem is.

company: buy this
consumers: lol try again or fuck off

Best case, they make better games. Worst case... uh, Bobby Kotick cries a tear? Probably not :trumps

That's how I see it. People whining on reddit is hardly glamorous but also doesn't harm anyone. In turn do those game journalists react as if the "gamers" just send bomb threats to blizzard.

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« Reply #41012 on: November 03, 2018, 05:18:47 PM »
Also, riotous, you may not be aware, but Bobby doxxed a member of this forum and tried to get him fired. So pleeeeeease forgive me for not feeling sorry for that piece of shit.

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« Reply #41013 on: November 03, 2018, 05:21:39 PM »
Seeing how my joy in schaudenfraude expressed through a few lines on a spinoff board with 20 members does not affect him in the slightest, I fail to see your point. You and Pogi and Jack can fuck off with your moral grandstanding.  :)

Everything you dislike Bobby over is "stuff that doesn't affect anyone in the slightest" (him typing words online that annoy you.)   It's why the schaudenfraude is kind of gross because we aren't talking about petty forum/twitter BS;  or at least we might not be since that kind of accusation can affect someone a lot.

Not trying to moral grandstand you it's just my opinion;  I also don't relish people losing their jobs and livelihood and whatnot like Resetera does everytime they get the pitchforks out over random stuff.

If I was "like ERA" like Pogi claims we are being, then I would be joining some internet campaign to draw and quarter Bobby for committing some unverified crime. Seeing neither I or anyone else here did that, or condemn him, that point goes out the window.

I don't enjoy people getting fired over internet outrage either, whether it's James Gunn or some conservative lady tweeting something ignorant on an airplane. However, as long as I am not actively contributing to any kind of outrage campaign, as they like to do of Bobby, I am not going to lose any sleep over him falsely or truthfully being accused of bad behavior, something he himself has done, hence the irony.

I didn't say you were "like ERA," or just like them. I said you were falling into the same trap of enjoying something bad happening to someone because they "deserve it" after having decried that exact same thing in RE. That doesn't mean you do every nasty thing that RE does. I just said you're doing something you(?) decry: relishing in something bad happening to someone (e.g. an old woman getting beaten; being [potentially] falsely accused of rape) because they "deserve" it.

You're right that RE goes above and beyond the call of duty to be terrible.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41014 on: November 03, 2018, 05:25:33 PM »
You're painting with a broad brush, breh. I don't decry people for enjoying schaudenfraude, never have, and it's certainly not exclusive to Era.

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« Reply #41015 on: November 03, 2018, 05:28:01 PM »
Alright, fair enough. That's why I put the (?) after "you," because I know many people here (including myself) make fun of RE for it, but didn't know about you specifically. Then I wasn't talking about you.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41016 on: November 03, 2018, 05:33:03 PM »
it's indisputable that the guy was being a dick by asking that question in the mic. You may like that he was being a dick, but he was definitely being a dick. He was clearly trying to be a dick.

Sure, but Blizzard needed that dickslap after hyping up "THE BEST YEAR FOR DIABLO YET!" and it's 1) a Switch port of the worst entry in the series (so far) and 2) a fucking phone game. Meanwhile, they have had job postings about doing a remaster of Diablo 2 (regarded highly by fans) and nothing about it.

The mobile port announcement would have went over better if they had something to throw to fans that was even just an announcement of the Diablo 2 remaster starting work. ANYTHING would've been better than "lol here's a mobile game that is a reskin of another one."

So asking "is this april fools?" is appropriate. Even Blizzard realized they fucked up because they tried to temper expectations before the con ("Lower your expectations, guys...") and still failed to read the room.

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« Reply #41017 on: November 03, 2018, 05:35:31 PM »
Also, riotous, you may not be aware, but Bobby doxxed a member of this forum and tried to get him fired. So pleeeeeease forgive me for not feeling sorry for that piece of shit.

I swear someone said earlier that wasn't Bobby;  it was brought up yesterday.

They were talking about stufte.

Bobby doxxed a guy named KissVibes, he doesn't really post anymore.

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« Reply #41018 on: November 03, 2018, 05:55:44 PM »
The word is spelled "schadenfreude".
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« Reply #41019 on: November 03, 2018, 05:57:45 PM »
The word is spelled "schadenfreude".

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« Reply #41020 on: November 03, 2018, 06:01:12 PM »
Enough fighting, despite Pogi-daddy's objections: Let's laugh at the Diablo fuckup.



RIP Blizzard: 1991-2005.

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« Reply #41021 on: November 03, 2018, 06:03:26 PM »
The mobile game is probably targeted to casuals who play mobile games, not Blizzard diehards. How does this make them go bankrupt exactly?

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41022 on: November 03, 2018, 06:06:19 PM »
Pretty much all of my favorite franchises have had a mobile spinoff. You’re a child if you get upset.

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« Reply #41023 on: November 03, 2018, 06:10:36 PM »
if anyone with a reee account is interested in a scam scheme, take a hint:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i’m-not-voting-this-year-i’m-sorry-y’all.78857/page-2

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« Reply #41024 on: November 03, 2018, 06:13:04 PM »
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Making jokes and comments about non-human characters being examples of black characters due to stereotypical features is both racist and dismissive of the issue of media representation. Any posts that cross this line will continue to be moderated appropriately.
I agree jokes are inappropriate, but I do like to voice my opinion on representation. And I feel like I have to care with thread while the pro force are allowed to shout from their lunges (basically, censoring)

Do you state that dismission of media representation in games is a racist argument by itself? Or a bad thing to do in general?

See, as a Chinese living in mostly white towns in the Netherlands (never caring for communities nor seeking for racial communities) I feel like I'm completely Dutch. If there are any other minorities around, everyone treats that person as Dutch first as well. However, if someone suddenly brings up race and asks me the same questions I've heard over ten thousand times like where i am from (born in the Netherlands), if I eat dogs (no, I'm raised in the Netherlands), how it is like in my parent's hometown (how do I know that, I live here) I feel isolated. So for me, I much more prefer the no-color approach as there is absolutely no room to brew any racism, whereas color differentiation can brew problems. If there are kind hearted color differentiation, there are also ill intended color differentiation.

This leads me to Smash. I just see game video characters. Media representation is the last thing on my mind. Why is bringing up colors a thing? Before this thread, I literally didn't even remember what color each character was. For me it's a game characters representation. Why does it have to be about race?

For me, someone who doesn't care if a game is full white, full asian or full black, bringing up race sparks the same fear as when someone starts pointing out I'm that one Chinese guy or someone starts pointing out that one of my colleagues is that one black guy. So I feel that forcing media representation as a valid argument and censoring those who oppose it more as an enemy to race neutrality than those who dismiss it. That's my view due to my background as living as a minority.
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41025 on: November 03, 2018, 06:14:07 PM »
Pretty much all of my favorite franchises have had a mobile spinoff. You’re a child if you get upset.

And nearly all of them have sucked. What's your point? People were wanting Diablo 4 or Diablo 2 HD, not Diablo: Mobile: The Hunt for Moby Dick.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41026 on: November 03, 2018, 06:14:17 PM »
Pretty much all of my favorite franchises have had a mobile spinoff. You’re a child if you get upset.

Yeah, what's the deal here?  I don't remember people losing their shit like this over other mobile game versions of big-name titles. 
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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41027 on: November 03, 2018, 06:18:53 PM »
must be a gamer thing

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41028 on: November 03, 2018, 06:19:02 PM »
This is all of us ragging on RE.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41029 on: November 03, 2018, 06:19:28 PM »
lol fucking distinguished mentally-challenged babies who get mad at a mobile game. Anyone catching any sort of feelings over this need to back away from their computer and go walk off a cliff.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41030 on: November 03, 2018, 06:22:07 PM »
lol fucking distinguished mentally-challenged babies who get mad at a mobile game. Anyone catching any sort of feelings over this need to back away from their computer and go walk off a cliff.

Aren't you a mobile game "developer?"

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41031 on: November 03, 2018, 06:24:39 PM »
Can you dumbasses really not understand that the timing and place of announcing diablo mobile was extremely poor form on Blizzard's part? And then the game is literally a reskin of another game the dev has made.

I don't care diablo at all and still get the frustration.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41032 on: November 03, 2018, 06:25:17 PM »
lol fucking distinguished mentally-challenged babies who get mad at a mobile game. Anyone catching any sort of feelings over this need to back away from their computer and go walk off a cliff.

Aren't you a mobile game "developer?"

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Yep and I don't play mobile games and would LOVE a new mainline Diablo game. Anyone that thinks that this is the only Diablo product in development is a reactionary moron.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41033 on: November 03, 2018, 06:27:00 PM »
Can you dumbasses really not understand that the timing and place of announcing diablo mobile was extremely poor form on Blizzard's part?

I don't care diablo at all and still get the frustration.

A company marketing their game at a marketing event is poor form?

You are a dumb motherfucker.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41034 on: November 03, 2018, 06:29:57 PM »
I mean, there's certainly such thing as bad marketing, which apparently this was. And if someone's purposely hyping you up for something and then disappoints, it's fine to be disappointed with the result. And for people who paid $200 to be there, I can see them being upset at poorly spent money.

It's those online that are offended by the game that are babies.

People were disappointed with Geraldo's opening of Al Capone's vault, and they made fun of him for it for a long time. But I doubt very many adults felt like he spat in their faces. They were just disappointed and then made fun of him for it.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41035 on: November 03, 2018, 06:35:30 PM »
Pretty much all of my favorite franchises have had a mobile spinoff. You’re a child if you get upset.

And nearly all of them have sucked. What's your point? People were wanting Diablo 4 or Diablo 2 HD, not Diablo: Mobile: The Hunt for Moby Dick.

Sometimes you don’t get what you want. Can’t do anything about it.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41036 on: November 03, 2018, 06:36:56 PM »
And why is it such a big deal to make fun of people losing their shit over video games?

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41037 on: November 03, 2018, 06:45:21 PM »
Blizzard fucked up and to be honest it was a pretty obvious fuck-up that they really should have seen coming.

Even if you think a mobile game is fine, you don't know the games business if you couldn't predict that this would be a bad PR move on Blizzards part. Nothing about this backlash is surprising.

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41038 on: November 03, 2018, 06:49:26 PM »
I'm looking forward to Diablo Immortal and even I think it was a weird call to end the show with it. I guess it was the only "new" game so that's why?

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Re: Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash |OT| That ain't it, chief
« Reply #41039 on: November 03, 2018, 06:51:38 PM »
I mean, Bethesda, Nintendo, Microsoft, etc has shown that you can tease a game with some game font and nothing else and people will clap with that. Blizzard could have done that and people would have been okay with it.