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VomKriege

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« Reply #60720 on: February 16, 2019, 05:26:29 AM »
User Rick Blaine on TMZ has a lot to say :

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Oh yah, for the 8TH time why did Jussiebhihchboy hire one of the best defense attorneys in America today? MICHAEL MONICO? the liberal mainstream media won’t report that! One of you racist black pieces of💩needs to answer this question. I’ve been asking for 4HOURS!! and not one of you cowards will answer! Why? The Democratic plantation won’t let you answer! They still own you after 400 years!!LOFL

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I want to thank all the racist black chimps for chimpin out tonight. And letting me hold court for over three hours! Me against a hundred! I loved the odds and won! It was a freakin rush!! Someone needed to put your racistazzez in check for once! And I understand why nobody had my back, fight the good fight. Play to win and fight till your dead! Be a leader not a sheep! If you don’t like this thenFhuhkyou!and the horse you rode in on!

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« Reply #60721 on: February 16, 2019, 05:27:15 AM »
For reference, RE has had roughly 30k-40k members for its entire existence.

The subreddit for indie game Stardew Valley has 280k subscribers.

And that's just for one indie game.

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« Reply #60722 on: February 16, 2019, 05:32:35 AM »
What the, is Era really the biggest gaming forum?
It's a niche spin-off of a forum that was itself ten years away from its prime industry status in which it sometimes got a meme in a video game or people used it to dump leaks on. That will dox its members to call them out for tweets. Owned by a shitty novelist. Half its active members or more don't even post about games and won't even visit the Nazi filled gaming side.

The Bire has as many developers. Including wannabes like stufte.

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« Reply #60723 on: February 16, 2019, 05:33:37 AM »
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Atlas USA having no say in this doesn't mean that everyone working at Atlus USA aren't still super complicit in normalizing transphobia and hatred. Their job is literally to adapt a hateful work into English and market it the US. Anyone working there should absolutely be ashamed of themselves.

And they're being paid literal wages to sit at literal offices to literally perform this job. How deep does this non literal literal Nazi rabbit hole goes ?
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« Reply #60724 on: February 16, 2019, 05:37:08 AM »
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atlus has never been a friend of the queer community.
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Yes but thats what I'm saying. I'm not convinced by the "just following orders" defense... I dont think Atlus USA should be let off the hook at all.

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« Reply #60725 on: February 16, 2019, 05:39:53 AM »
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« Reply #60726 on: February 16, 2019, 05:43:12 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-is-it-so-easy-to-spread-false-information-on-the-internet.100038/
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I think this is worth looking at closely and I don’t have a clue how to counter it. Unless it’s educate people on how to verify a source.
wow thx

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« Reply #60727 on: February 16, 2019, 05:47:51 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/tomorrow-i-leave-for-china.100018/

zero references to shower drain thread, this is why ResetERA.com is a hate site


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« Reply #60729 on: February 16, 2019, 05:55:11 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/jussie-smollett-breaks-his-silence-after-vicious-attack-im-ok.97099/post-17976764
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I wish I made my cousin up. He is very real and once pointed an AK-47 at me as a joke. Has two kids, a low/paying job, and spends a good chunk of his money buying guns every month.
Sounds very convenient to me. You just happen to be questioning a gay black man who was attacked, and you just happen to have this super racist cousin who pointed a gun at you like a mad person?

Got any proof of that?
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« Reply #60730 on: February 16, 2019, 06:05:07 AM »
I love how the OT starts with an age restriction-esque "offensive content" warning :lol They really are stuck up moms.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/catherine-full-body-import-ot-nows-not-the-time-to-be-wed-read-staff-post.99370/page-2#post-17976587

I also love how at the same time this is basically an announcement to never have anything else ever discussed about the game ever again on ree.
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« Reply #60731 on: February 16, 2019, 06:08:46 AM »
the rage, the powerless unhinged rage
https://www.resetera.com/threads/major-spoilers-one-of-the-endings-in-catherine-full-body-gets-extremely-transphobic-moreso-than-that-original.100027/post-17976213
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https://twitter.com/aurahack/status/1096671771913322496
This is heartbreaking. Ugh

But Erica is not even their proper Twitter handle, it's the one you can change within a few seconds....

Edit: oh wait, maybe she's transgender and had real life name change

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« Reply #60732 on: February 16, 2019, 06:13:39 AM »
the rage, the powerless unhinged rage
https://www.resetera.com/threads/major-spoilers-one-of-the-endings-in-catherine-full-body-gets-extremely-transphobic-moreso-than-that-original.100027/post-17976213
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https://twitter.com/aurahack/status/1096671771913322496
This is heartbreaking. Ugh

But Erica is not even their proper Twitter handle, it's the one you can change within a few seconds....

this is what happens when you idolize comic characters. Can't wait for the day Black Panther becomes the biggest milkshake goose of them all, whenever someone writes him a line that comments on a woman's attractiveness or something.

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« Reply #60733 on: February 16, 2019, 06:14:56 AM »
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this was literally a holy shit what the fuck reaction.
i was barely awake groggily browsing era on my phone in bed. upon seeing this i shot right out, eyes blaring in disbelief at what in all that is holy i just read
VIDEO GAMES

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« Reply #60734 on: February 16, 2019, 06:17:20 AM »
Btw. This is the Catherine ending explained which... doesn't seem so bad? The timeline has just shifted and sounds like Erica has simply not transitioned yet

https://twitter.com/Kyz0nMB/status/1096705571871514624

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« Reply #60735 on: February 16, 2019, 06:18:48 AM »

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« Reply #60736 on: February 16, 2019, 06:22:47 AM »
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What do you propose they do then?
Have they issued a statement condeming the views of this new game. They could start there.
they could start by condemning their own game :lol

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If they are responsible for localizing hateful content and marketing it to consumers, then they don't get to handwave all responsibility away by saying "but they made all the decisions, we're just following orders". They need to share the responsibility for the global spread of an extremely hateful product. They don't get to claim total blamelessness here.

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« Reply #60737 on: February 16, 2019, 06:23:51 AM »
IMMEDIATELY
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« Reply #60738 on: February 16, 2019, 06:27:06 AM »
User Rick Blaine on TMZ has a lot to say :

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 :nope HEINEKEN?! FUCK THAT SHIT!

 :ohyeah PABST BLUE RIBBON!


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« Reply #60739 on: February 16, 2019, 06:28:53 AM »
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Hold up, i thought we were already boycotting SMASH because of the racist stuff? Someone phone the party's HQ for clarifications!


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« Reply #60741 on: February 16, 2019, 06:33:05 AM »
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Hold up, i thought we were already boycotting SMASH because of the racist stuff? Someone phone the party's HQ for clarifications!
i starting to think you and me are the only ones fighting against Nintendo's racism in 2019

and you're probably a fed...

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« Reply #60742 on: February 16, 2019, 06:36:36 AM »
FLASHBACK: https://www.resetera.com/threads/racist-stereotypes-in-smash-bros-ultimates-spirits-mode.89171/post-16367880
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Nope but the best thing we can do is make sure this the first thing they see when they come back from vacation
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Did they at least acknowledge this?
No, but I wish they would. It needs to be addressed ASAP. It's a PR nightmare that might affect sales
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Agreed.

I mean I don't have a Switch but I am considering if I will get one in the future but things like this just make think about skipping the game if I ever grab one. Hopefully, they do the right thing as soon as the holiday is over.

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« Reply #60743 on: February 16, 2019, 06:37:09 AM »
such amazing commitment for progressive deeds. Atlus will be so shook when they'll get the emergency fax with all the numbers of people rebooting their smash bros match. this is how you change things in the world, this and buying disney tickets.

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« Reply #60744 on: February 16, 2019, 06:39:33 AM »

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Man, this is wild. The fact he just hired a new lawyer isn't looking good.

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    When there’s false reports in the press stating that the investigation is turning towards it being a co-ordinated hoax perpetrated by you, even if you’re not guilty, you’re telling me you wouldn’t line up a lawyer?     

A criminal defense lawyer, though?  Is he going to sue the press or defend himself from charges?

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« Reply #60745 on: February 16, 2019, 06:44:23 AM »
i get the impression he's not very bright, somebody probably said to him "do you want an attorney? REALLY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ASK FOR AN ATTORNEY? SOME PEOPLE MIGHT ASK FOR AN ATTORNEY RIGHT NOW YOU KNOW AN ATTORNEY, LAWYER, LAW READER, SOMEONE TO GO TOE TO TOE ON CRIMINAL LAW WITH, FILIBUSTER"

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« Reply #60746 on: February 16, 2019, 06:51:06 AM »
Quote from: Frank O'Connor
In before, "Sean Hannity has a strong back, tremendously strong back, and a noble, surprisingly articulate bearing, but he's off the plantation."


Except that won't happen because RevenAnne Coulter isn't directly involved in a real estate scam with Donald Trump.


BTW, Hannity backed down instantly when he got the page from the Whitehouse that Trump was gonna loser-out. But I am curious about what the underlying forces pushing Hannity, Coulter and Rush Limbaugh's legitimate underming of Trump's obvious path, ar. Is it an organized thing? Because they're all pushing the identical message and strategy - so it could just be their own base of racists, but they must know that Trumpers will abandon them to some degree. Is there some weird third party of real media money that's more racist than it is opportunist?

I'm not kidding. There's no philosophical razor I can apply to this but maybe I just don't have a good understanding of the data. After all, ACTUAL suspected Miami drug-ring mastermind and opiate crisis creator/victim/not advocate/Laitina drug mule runner, Rush Limbaugh personally only managed to go "mainstream" for about fifteen minutes before literally going reverse racism/affirmative action cadillac queen on national TV.

So maybe they're all just real dedicated racists AND opportunist racism dogpilers AND potential and actual Maher guests.
wow cortana's plot against master chief has gotten complicated!

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« Reply #60747 on: February 16, 2019, 06:54:37 AM »
Btw. This is the Catherine ending explained which... doesn't seem so bad? The timeline has just shifted and sounds like Erica has simply not transitioned yet

https://twitter.com/Kyz0nMB/status/1096705571871514624

Considering that Erica says Toby's dream girl is "closer than he thinks" it even sounds like she still intends to transition. It just seems like they used her pre-transition to show it takes place in the past, as hamfisted as that is.

The resetera thread claims that it's a perfect timeline where Erica gets "fixed", and that doesn't seem to be correct at all.

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« Reply #60748 on: February 16, 2019, 06:56:56 AM »
Seriously tho, does Stinkles does any work between writing so many care posts every day or so ?
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« Reply #60749 on: February 16, 2019, 06:57:40 AM »
Considering that Erica says Toby's dream girl is "closer than he thinks" it even sounds like she still intends to transition. It just seems like they used her pre-transition to show it takes place in the past, as hamfisted as that is.

The resetera thread claims that it's a perfect timeline where Erica gets "fixed", and that doesn't seem to be correct at all.
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« Reply #60751 on: February 16, 2019, 07:03:15 AM »
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Atlus can fuck off. It hurts so much to enjoy a series that actively, vocally hates me.
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If they don't address this and/or continue to write similar scenarios in their future games...good luck.
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It's a shame Atlus USA doesn't have a forum because if they did we could at least go over there and make a big deal out of this.


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« Reply #60753 on: February 16, 2019, 07:15:06 AM »
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Now I'm a bit disappointed in Troy Baker for signing up for this.
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This is a niche video game, not the next installment of Star Wars. There is no reason to believe he wasn't given a full script. Which means he knew this was in there. He's the main character. He's seen all of the endings.

margarita duck incoming :goty
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« Reply #60754 on: February 16, 2019, 07:22:01 AM »
Relishing in harmful objectification is my favorite ban message to date. :delicious

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« Reply #60755 on: February 16, 2019, 07:26:15 AM »
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atlus has never been a friend of the queer community.
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Yes but thats what I'm saying. I'm not convinced by the "just following orders" defense... I dont think Atlus USA should be let off the hook at all.

We need some sort of trial for these who are just following orders. :punch

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« Reply #60756 on: February 16, 2019, 07:31:21 AM »
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Hold up, i thought we were already boycotting SMASH because of the racist stuff? Someone phone the party's HQ for clarifications!
i starting to think you and me are the only ones fighting against Nintendo's racism in 2019

and you're probably a fed...

Fact check: I pointed out the shameful whitewashing of Splatoon characters which surfaced in a Japanese claw machine :punch

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« Reply #60757 on: February 16, 2019, 07:38:12 AM »
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Gamergate/MRA communities will eat this up and revel in all the "triggered SJWs" to mark this down as a victory for the straight white minority.

Goddamnit Atlus.

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« Reply #60759 on: February 16, 2019, 07:42:46 AM »
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You are not doing fine, you’re a sociopath. Your brain is broken and you might fuck dogs.
https://resetera.com//threads/far-cry-new-dawns-animal-dog-cruelty-is-sadistic-and-waaaay-over-the-line.99991/post-17970937


:rofl

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« Reply #60760 on: February 16, 2019, 07:50:25 AM »
Considering that Erica says Toby's dream girl is "closer than he thinks" it even sounds like she still intends to transition. It just seems like they used her pre-transition to show it takes place in the past, as hamfisted as that is.

The resetera thread claims that it's a perfect timeline where Erica gets "fixed", and that doesn't seem to be correct at all.

Yeah, that was my reading as well. I'm surprised no one on RE is arguing it (well not really surprised, they'd probably be banned for "denying transphobic content" or some shit)

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« Reply #60761 on: February 16, 2019, 07:59:08 AM »
Streamers union.

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« Reply #60763 on: February 16, 2019, 08:05:56 AM »
a streamers union is almost as stupid as that time I tried to create a The Bire Posters Guild to protest the corrupt mods relishing in our harmful exploitation

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« Reply #60765 on: February 16, 2019, 08:10:04 AM »
a streamers union is almost as stupid as that time I tried to create a The Bire Posters Guild to protest the corrupt mods relishing in our harmful exploitation

You had the right idea, we are working our tails off to deliver third rate first class jokes, only for Joe and Rumbler to pocket that money to pay for their next sex vacation. :maf

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« Reply #60766 on: February 16, 2019, 08:41:31 AM »

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« Reply #60767 on: February 16, 2019, 09:37:21 AM »
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Catherine: Full Body |OT| ATLUS IS OVER
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The entire point of ResetEra banning games from discussion is so that the games aren't being advertised by the discussion. It's not a boycott, but it serves the same purpose. It is a refusal to support a product.
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I'm hoping the game at least mega bombs. Losing money is probably the only way they will learn.
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If they don't address this and/or continue to write similar scenarios in their future games...good luck.
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Japanese games being completely out of touch with social issues, I'm gagged.

I hope this bombs hard, just like VC4 did. Eventually they will have to understand society is evolving and shit like this don't get a pass anymore.
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How in the fuck could they possibly fuck up Erica's portrayal worse than the original? This isn't just ignorance, this is downright malicious.

Fuck this game. Fuck this studio. Fuck anyone who defends this.

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« Reply #60768 on: February 16, 2019, 09:40:34 AM »
https://twitter.com/AngryBlackLady/status/1096085901728313344

If a bot isn't alive, can you really accuse it of blackface?

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« Reply #60769 on: February 16, 2019, 09:42:12 AM »
"sis" is AAVE?

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« Reply #60770 on: February 16, 2019, 09:47:22 AM »
Apparently A.I. are caucasian?

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« Reply #60771 on: February 16, 2019, 09:49:51 AM »
the rest of that chain is fantastic

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« Reply #60772 on: February 16, 2019, 09:54:59 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/jussie-smollett-breaks-his-silence-after-vicious-attack-im-ok.97099/page-18#post-17978951

Not at all a "conspiratorial" non sequitur.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jussie-smollett-breaks-his-silence-after-vicious-attack-im-ok.97099/page-18#post-17979100

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« Reply #60773 on: February 16, 2019, 10:00:36 AM »
lmao at this being in the replies, what's his ResetERA.com account name?
https://twitter.com/darnold0714/status/1096771733678419968

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« Reply #60774 on: February 16, 2019, 10:02:41 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/jussie-smollett-breaks-his-silence-after-vicious-attack-im-ok.97099/post-17979831
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Why is everyone listening to TMZ like it isn't a racist as shit right-wing mouthpiece with an agenda.
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Didn’t this story originally come from TMZ?

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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums |OT| ♀ C O R E V A L U E S ♀ Sponsored By Yuka Kuramochi
« Reply #60776 on: February 16, 2019, 10:04:11 AM »
Quote from: RedMercury
The police are trying to color the public perception when they should just be doing their fucking jobs.
wow "color" as a negative, not a good look, woof

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums |OT| ♀ C O R E V A L U E S ♀ Sponsored By Yuka Kuramochi
« Reply #60777 on: February 16, 2019, 10:12:26 AM »
AAVE?


When did ebonics become offensive?

Cauliflower Of Love

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« Reply #60778 on: February 16, 2019, 10:13:20 AM »
the rest of that chain is fantastic
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So, did they already achieved suppressing her voice?

:thinking

Don Rumata

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Re: Other Forums |OT| ♀ C O R E V A L U E S ♀ Sponsored By Yuka Kuramochi
« Reply #60779 on: February 16, 2019, 10:13:48 AM »
Relishing in harmful objectification is my favorite ban message to date. :delicious
As opposed to harmless objectification, such as:
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